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Tomorrow, Retire Dick Lugar

I really do adore Peggy Noonan. I respect her opinion and I love her writing. I take issue with her support of Richard Lugar, however.

Peggy Noonan writes that Indiana should “save the old guy. He has value.” She also says Washington needs grown ups and “we need mature folk involved in our governance, people for whom not everything is new.”

With respect, Mr. Lugar has no more value. He and his cohorts have given all the value to China.

Richard Lugar has been in Washington since January of 1977. I was one. The federal debt was approximately $650 billion. The federal debt now surpasses $15 trillion. And you know what? The grown ups did it. The grown ups, the mature folks, the adults in the room were the ones who did it. Richard Lugar was complicit in this catastrophic balance sheet. He rarely stood in the way of an increase in debt, an increase in spending, a bridge to nowhere, and a future to bankruptcy.

While Richard Lugar was joining the other grown ups in raiding the treasury for pet projects, Richard Mourdock was first in the private sector, then became Indiana’s State Treasurer. He fought the Obama Administration’s GM bankruptcy. He fought the Obama Administration on Obamacare. He helped Indiana balance its books.

The two men are both adults. Richard Mourdock’s parents are both World War II veterans. Yes, his father and his mother. He knows what sacrifice is like. He knows what hard work is like. And he knows that just as his parents quite literally fought for a better world, he must too.

In Washington, “adult” is the term of art for the men and women who reach across the aisle. They cut deals. They save face. They make government work. In their zeal to make government work, the perverse reverse has happened. We now work for the government. We sustain the leviathan. Our children’s children’s children will pay off the debt Richard Lugar helped incur.

I’d prefer it if we stopped sending his ilk to Washington to keep incurring debts for my children and grand children in the name of being grown up.

COMMENTS

  • thefrogprince

    Time for this RINO to be put out to pasture. He’s grazed on our tax dollars for too long.

  • ohiohistorian

    Can we get him to take the rest of the “adults” with him, please? Although I have a hard time calling those with the bulk of the responsibility (Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, to name two) as responsible adults. And yes, since John Boehner and Eric Cantor have been Speaker and Majority Leader we have added about $3.5 trillion to the debt, so he should go with them as well.

  • ohiohistorian

    You know, the one who has the car keys and won’t give them back to the “adults”, but still drives the car deeper and deeper into the ditch.

  • APA Guy

    Hoosier Republicans AND Indies I speak to are geeked about the prospect of sending Mourdock to the Senate…and Democrats I talk to aren’t exactly rushing to Lugar’s aid because they seem him as more difficult to beat in the general (Remember, he routinely wins re-election by 30-40 points – which means he picks up moderate Dem support on a regular basis). In Fort Wayne, Indiana’s 2nd largest city, Mourdock signs litter the roads – just as they do in every rural area from Kosciusko County to the Indy suburbs.

    I think this one will be close, but not as close as many think. Barring unforeseen developments (terrible scandal, etc.), I believe Mourdock wins by 5-10 points tomorrow.

  • jeffsmnz

    “I really do adore Peggy Noonan. I respect her opinion and I love her writing” Noonan is a very articulate and talented individual. BUT “respect” of her opinion is about the best I can give her. She put herself in the box with the other niave and gullible pundits with her fawning support and promotion of Obama. I don’t know if she was suffering an early temporary episode of dementia or what, and she has indicated that she has seen the light, but she has seriously damaged her credibility as a conservative commentator…. The amount of skepticism with which I read her opinion is ten fold now.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …when Rick Perry announced his candidacy @ the RedState Gathering.

    He was quite chatty, and we gained the key-impression that he was well-equipped to articulate a strongly conservative message.

  • radicalrighty

    She is only one of millions of white women who chose to ignore Hannity, Rush, and a few others who warned us of Obama’s radical past and marxist acquaintances.

    Apparently they thought it was the right thing to do – to put a black man in the White House.

    What’s even worse than that line of thinking, is that most of them will probably vote for him again.

  • gravelyvoicejim

    Hey Erick -

    Once we get Lugar retired, I suggest you look at the Missouri senate race. We here in the “Show-Me” state have a quasi-incumbent career politician from DC, Todd Akin, running against a solid local businessman (John Brunner) and a former state treasure (Sarah Steelman) who served as a fiscal conservative. Akin is a career politician and a member of congress running for a “promotion” from the U.S. House to the Senate in the August Missouri primary.

    Akin’s schtick is that he is a “constitutional conservative”, but his 2011 voting record in the House shows otherwise as he voted consistently throughout last year FOR the CRs that funded Obamacare, Planned Parenthood, Acorn vote-buying programs, and that plunged us further into debt. When personally confronted by a group of grass-roots activists about these votes last year we were told by him, with a wink and a nudge, that “It’s all about the 2012 election.”; and oh yeah – to go home and put some “Todd Akin” signs in our yards while we are at it. Of course we did NOT accept that.

    To add insult to injury, Akin is now campaigning around the state spinning these votes as “having actually CUT funds from Obamacare programs”, since the funding he voted for was actually LESS that the funding in the original bill after the deals were cut. “Funding” by any other name is still…”FUNDING”.

    Todd Akin has spent almost a quarter-century as an elected official split between the MO legislature and the U.S. congress; the definition of the consummate “career politician”. I suggest you look into his 2011 voting record, which will show he consistently voted with his establishment “leadership” to help fund the very programs he rails against when he is campaigning back in his home state of Missouri.

    Please help the Missouri grass-roots retire Todd Akin in August.

  • mikeymike143

    Current Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock will defeat Richard Lugar, Obama?s favorite Republican, on May 8 and go on to do a great job of representing the Hoosier state as their Senator. Mourdock is a principled conservative with a bright future ahead of him. There are several reasons Indiana voters should cast their ballots for Mourdock over Washington, D.C. insider and career politican Dick Lugar.

    Let?s start with one of our most basic rights ? the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Are you aware that Dick Lugar has an ?F? rating with both the NRA and the Gun Owners of America? Lugar marches in lockstep with his idol Obama on the issue of gun control. In fact, he was the ONLY Republican to support the global UN small arms treaty, which would allow foreign countries to dictate gun laws to Americans.

    Yet he opposes border control and was a co-sponsor of the Dream Act which would illegal immigrants amnesty and citizenship. I am sure that Lugar?s lefty pals at the New York Times and the United Nations are downright giddy over the thought of simultaneously disarming our law abiding citizens and opening our borders to all who want to come here and cause our country harm. But I somehow do not think Indiana Republicans share Lugar?s liberal viewpoints on those issues.

    Unlike Lugar, Richard Mourdock actually lives in Indiana. So he is very much in tune with the wishes of his fellow Hoosiers on these vital issues. In fact, Mourdock has been wholeheartedly endorsed by both the NRA and illegal immigration opponent ALIPAC. And here is what ALIPAC founder William Gheen had to say about Mourdock.

    ?Indiana voters have a clear choice between Richard Mourdock, who will fight to protect American jobs, taxpayer resources, and lives from illegal immigration, and Richard Lugar, who has fought to support the interests of illegal immigrants over American citizens,? said William Gheen, President of ALIPAC.

    http://richardmourdock.com/endorsements/organizations

    Indiana Republicans tend to be fiscal conservatives who care deeply about the direction that their country is headed. Career politicians like Lugar simply do not understand that the days of ?tax and spend? are over. Lugar lives in that ?Washington D.C. bubble? where politicians are treated like kings and hard earned taxpayer money is thrown around like monopoly money.

    The American Conservative Union was founded in 1964 and has a nearly 50 year track record of diligently representing Americans who are concerned with economic growth through lower taxes and reduced government spending. For decades, their congressional ratings have been the definitive guide when it comes to determining where Members of Congress stand on conservative issues. We are talking about some serious long term proven credibilty here. Shall we see what they have to say about the two candidates?

    ACU Chairman Al Cardenas issued the following statement: ?Richard Mourdock is the clear conservative choice in the Indiana Republican Primary May 8. His record as a successful businessman and as State Treasurer shows that he will bring a needed understanding of free enterprise and sound fiscal policies to the Senate. As Treasurer, Richard Mourdock earned over $1 million in investment income for taxpayers and returned 10% of his budget back to the Treasury each year.

    The incumbent, Senator Lugar, has frequently opposed conservatives on key issues in the Senate, such as earmark reform while supporting the bailouts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac against a majority of Republicans. Senator Lugar opposed efforts by the late House Foreign Affairs Chairman Henry Hyde to support reforms at the United Nations and is also the lead sponsor of the Law of the Sea Treaty, which President Ronald Reagan opposed as a threat to U.S. sovereignty.?

    http://conservative.org/

    Richard Mourdock was elected Indiana?s State Treasurer in November 2006 and was re-elected in 2010, leading the Republican ticket with over 62% of the vote. Obviously he is a strong candidate or he would not have been re-elected by such a high margin by the people of Indiana. Mourdock has also been endorsed by such well known conservatives as Redstate?s Erick Erickson, FreedomWorks CEO Matt Kibbe, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and Mark Levin.

    Lugar eagerly appeared in a campaign television advertisement for Obama during the 2008 presidential election, then went on to enthusiastically serve as a co-chair for Obama?s inaugural committee. Lugar is widely known as ?Obama?s favorite Republican. That is just not the type of title that an Indiana Republican should aspire to.

    Indiana voters are faced with a clear choice this election period. They can either vote for a career politician like Lugar who doesn?t even live in their state, or they can vote for a principled conservative with a bright national future like Richard Mourdock.

    http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2012/04/29/why-conservative-richard-mourdock-will-be-the-next-senator-from-indiana/

  • Bill S

    Post a diary if you want to discuss this. This diary is about Lugar, Mourdock and Indiana.

  • gravelyvoicejim

    Bill,

    What is a “thread” for if not to elicit ideas and promulgate discussion? Lugar is a symptom of the problem we have in DC – establishment elitist politicians who are enriching themselves while driving this country into the toilet. ANY thread that discusses one of these rats is a thread about that subject and should be fair-game for discussion of others around the country who are doing the same thing. It’s a cancer we all face in every one of our states.

    Tuesday will be a great day for liberty if Lugar is “retired”. After that, what next? Who do we focus on? I’m suggesting Akin, but apparently that offends you. There are other Akin sycophants in Missouri who like-wise get offended when his voting record is contrasted with his words. Fortunately, most conservatives around the state have figured this guy out and his campaign is faltering, much like Lugar’s is.

  • APA Guy

    Your own comment bears out its inappropriateness within this FP article:

    “Tuesday will be a great day for liberty if Lugar is ?retired?. After that, what next? Who do we focus on? I?m suggesting Akin…”

    VOILA! THIS entry is about Mourdock. To start talking about replacing ANOTHER senator is, by definition, THREAD-JACKING.

    Next time think it through before you go off half-cocked on a moderator here.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Just saying.. :P

  • APA Guy

    Thanks for the cold shower :)

  • chbroussard

    that we have that marxist sitting in the White House. Respect??? What I feel is distain. If Peggy couldn’t see what this guy was way back when he was a candidate, then she’s not nearly as smart as she thinks he is. IMHO, she is nothing but a dingbat.

  • davenj1

    We put Peggy Noonan in a locked room with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and see who can out-dingbat the other!

  • clintonformccain

    In the case of US Senate races, the goal must be to take control of the US Senate from the Democrats. That means that we let sending a message cost the Republicans a safe Senate seat.

    With that in mind, it’s fine to retire ol’ Dick Lugar as long as we are absolutely, positively sure that Mourdock can hold the seat in November.

    If he can’t hold it, and hold it comfortably without diverting national money to an Indiana race, then Republicans should focus more on beating Democrats and send message once there is a solid majority in the Senate.

    What’s it look like for Mourdock in November?

  • gravelyvoicejim

    As the RedState censorship Czar, could you please post a set of your “rules” that we “brain-dead” folks should all adhere to in order to avoid your “respectful” name-calling rath? Please remember to include a list of “respectful” names that we can call others; I’m assuming that “brain-dead” is on the acceptable list since it’s in the title of your post.

    “Be respectful or be banned. No Profanity.”

  • davenj1

    Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the general election against Donnelly. Its as simple as that at this point unless Mourdock, if he wins, supremely fouls up somehow, but given the fact that he will likely take down an entrenched Senator like Lugar, I doubt that. If for no other reason, new blood is needed in Congress.

  • gravelyvoicejim

    …of electing a Republican if he/she is going to act and vote like a progressive DEMOCRAT? Lugar voted to confirm Elena Kagan, ’nuff said…

    This isn’t about counting votes for leadership elections in the senate, it’s about making a liberal Republican accountable to the voters for not standing on the principles they elected him to defend.

  • commonsenseobserver

    But conservative Hoosiers seem to think otherwise. And they understand their neighbours better, I suppose.

  • streiff

    Bill S gave you some useful advice and you chose to not only ignore it but belittle it as well.

    This is not a good evolutionary strategy.

  • casuist

    The electability argument dropped the unelectable Willard Romney on our heads like bat guano.

    I vote principle, not party.

  • DVPTEXFLA

    I think most conservatives know changes are needed in how our government is run. I for one do not think we can expect the people who helped create the mess are the right people to expect to fix the mess.

    I see nothing in Mr. Lugar’s background to show he can fade the heat which will be coming with the changes needed.

  • chbroussard

    nt

  • rabun1016

    She writes well sometimes but I had the same thought as Erickson when David Gregory and others were talking about Lugar, a dwarf of a man when it comes to principle. I could not believe her response, but I think she feels she is getting the that timeframe also, and hopes the same principle will be applied to her. Will on the other hand, I applaud. Fielding the same question, he had the good sense to say “well maybe after 36 years, the voters think it is time for someone else.”

  • PowerToThePeople

    nt

  • onenationundergod

    Standing O for this post. I agree completely. Wish I lived in Indiana…come on Hoosiers!

  • snappy101

    According to the Howey/Depauw poll of the GOP U.S. Senate primary in Indiana Mourdock (48%) leads Lugar (38%).

    My opinion is journalists have no power. They derive their power from who they rub elbows with in DC and NY. It doesn’t surprise me that Noonan supports Lugar. She has to start all over again building a relationship with some nobody state treasurer if Mourdock wins. It’s in her own self-interest to support Lugar. I doubt if has anything to do with his record or Mourdock’s.

  • Bill S

    You can follow it and stay or you can continue to whine and subsequently be shown the door. Writing your own diary would be a far more prudent approach.

  • chief1356

    Peggy also has no use for Sarah Palin. I discounted Peggy’s opinion a long time ago.

  • johnt

    loves to toss her dyed golden locks like some hollywood super beauty, give airs & imagine she’s the center of it all. Cover the wrinkles Peggy,
    Only in Washington, graveyard of America, does some 80 year old stumbler get to apply for a six year job. Night watchman somewhere possibly, perhaps a part time porter, more likely an occupant of a rocking chair on the porch.
    Be wary of the phrase “reaching across the aisle”, principles get lost on that short trip, usually ours.

  • clintonformccain

    has been a reliable conservative vote in the Senate right?

    I’m not saying the Mourdock is another Christine O’Donnell. He looks like a credible competent candidate. If he’s a lock to win the seat in November, then fine. I’m just asking the question. The tea party doesn’t doesn’t have great track record in their efforts to “send a message”.

    I don’t think the Republicans can throw away safe Senate seats.

    —————–

    As to whether Lugar would be better than a Democrat? Yes. I assume that Lugar votes with the Republicans at least some of the time, which makes him better than a Democrat, in my book.

  • funwithknives

    “The Story of Jim Bowie”, with Alan Ladd?
    Two people tied together, right to left forearms, facing each other. Bowie knives in opposing hands. Put ‘em in a blacked-out room and go have a few drinks.
    The live/winning one comes out, upright. He/She buys next round……..

    Put THAT on Pay T V …….

  • clintonformccain

    I hate to go from a lock in November to a near tie for a seat the Republicans have held for decades. Hopefully, Mourdock is up to the challenge of winnign the general.

  • Viet71

    The Senate, unfortunately, is little more than a club for wealthy guys and chicks. I don’t see Mourdock changing the culture of the Senate. But he will be a good voice for fiscal sanity.

  • Ausonius

    At any given moment, without warning, even a highly intelligent human being can become a complete moron! :)

    Exhibit A: Einstein in re his first wife
    Exhibit B: Clinton in re Lewinsky
    Exhibit C: W. Bush in re Putin

    Here we have Noonan – whose writing style I find simplistic and not admirable – following the above rule…again.

    At a certain age the rule also intersects with the arteriosclerosis.

    By ignoring the Ausonian Rule on Intelligence, Noonan deludes herself into thinking that Lugar has any kind of defensible conservative record that should allow him another term to play nicely in the sandbox with Schumer and Reid, who are in control of the buckets and shovels.

    Time for Dickie to get out his cot and take a nap!

  • APA Guy

    If you have the stones to call out a moderator, at least have the fortitude to not whine when someone calls YOU out.

    IMO, what you did falls in the brain-dead category…my opinion based on substantial evidence within this thread.

  • bhjets

    Peggy Noonan could say the right thing for the rest of her life and I wouldn’t care. Her opinion means less than nothing to me anymore.

  • givemefreedom

    Yeah, Jim for god’s sake remember there are moderators lurking here ready to pull your membership!
    APA GUY, you make this place feel like a democrat political machine meeting behind closed doors!
    DON”T TOUCH A MODERATOR!
    “Be respectful, or be banned. No Profanity. “

  • rabun1016

    I think you are right.

  • APA Guy

    Half-cocked was the poster’s reply…sorry, but it’s true…and it would be true whether this was a conservative Republican or liberal Democrat blog.

  • streiff

    that is your call. It isn’t your call as to whether or not your contribution in so great that it makes keeping a jerk around worthwhile.

    If you don’t like the way the list is moderated, go someplace else. But don’t come in here, crap in our sink, and tell us to like it.

  • fishgod3

    Dingbat vs dingbat each with a bat to ding the other dingbat.

  • ceili_dancer

    My vote is for door greeter at WalMart. He can reach across all the aisles he wants to shake hands and be friendly.

  • fishgod3

    “a promise made is a debt unpaid” Robert Service,from the creamnation of Sam McGee. If that applied to Obama he`d be out of office today.

  • funwithknives

    visual, and I am still not is sync with my breath.

    Is this copywrited or available for application to objects? Me Want!!

    Kindly advise at your earliest convienience…..

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    2010 wins include Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Ron Johnson, Pat Toomey, Rand Paul, Allen West, Scott DesJarlais, Dan Benishek, just to name a few of the winners currently serving in Congress. That’s an impressive record in just a couple of years for a grassroots effort with no national leader, and I happen to like the message they’re sending.

  • http://americanstance.org pweldon

    Eric, I think this short post about Lugar and Mourdock is the most focused, best example of your writing to date. Thanks.

    Why Ms. Noonan and several members of the WSJ editorial board encourage prolonging the agony escapes me.

  • ernestineb

    Richard Lugar has never been much good in my book. He is not and never has been a true conservatives and RINOs are worse than useless – they are harmful. As illustrated, they stand in the way of progress and reform, and aid the enemy. Peggy really missed it on this one. I have trusted her too but as for reading her, she is way too long winded. But that’s ok, who wants to read an article by someone who would support Richard Lugar?

  • premonition010

    Lugars demise will begin the process of healing America, the GOP, and the RNC.

    Anything less is just feeding the CANCER attempting to destroy freedom.

    GO Indiana ! Show the US how easy it is.

  • clintonformccain

    Or, if you don’t see it as a lock, are you OK with Democrat majority in the Senate?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Is that list of winners backed by the tea party impressive? And how many on that list “never had a chance” either?

    I’m quite willing to take my chances with Mourdock over Lugar just as I did with Rubio over Crist and Lee over Bennett.

  • APA Guy

    Clear enough?

  • APA Guy

    And yes, I know and understand my neighbors very well…as well as countless others I have spoken to up and down the state. Unless they’re all lying, Mourdock wins the primary AND the general.

  • Flagstaff

    It would get top marks if all he had written was

    Peggy Noonan writes that Indiana should ?save the old guy. He has value.? She also says Washington needs grown ups and ?we need mature folk involved in our governance, people for whom not everything is new.?

    …Richard Lugar has been in Washington since January of 1977. I was one. The federal debt was approximately $650 billion. The federal debt now surpasses $15 trillion. And you know what? The grown ups did it. The grown ups, the mature folks, the adults in the room were the ones who did it.

  • ihateliberals

    The p[roblme with most freshmen in congress is lack of experience. The second problem with freshmen in congress is when they get experience they become corrupt. I still think that cleaning house of all incumbents would solve more problems than it would create. After all our first congress had no incumbents and it seemed to make out alright why not try it again. With all the freshmen we sent to congress this past year they all seem to have been absorbed into the system. Boehner and McConnell stifled them as fast as they could.

  • clintonformccain

    I would be happy to see Barack Obama’s favorite Republican pack his bags.

  • PowerToThePeople

    there is no copyright on the picture.

  • mikeymike143

    its time for him to go!!! and mourdock is a principled conservative who will a great job for indiana as their next senator.

  • Jim Lampe

    You are right, Noonan has become a journalistic Joe Biden, she is wrong on every issue she writes about.