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Barack Obama: A Composite Kenyan

A man happy to let others embellish his background to separate himself from his peer group to his advantage now wants to be the final arbiter on fairness in America.

The Breitbart Crew are kind of like illegal immigrants — doing reporting Columbia journalism grads won’t do. And doing it quite well.

The Breitbart Crew has done the world a very valuable service in finding a 1991 biography of Barack Obama from his literary agent claiming he was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”

Our own Jeff Emanuel also pointed out a 2004 Associated Press article that began, “Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.” [Editor's note: James Taranto pinged me on Twitter that this "Kenyan-born" bit was an addition added by a local editor of a Kenyan paper.]

I do not believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I don’t think it matters even if he were born overseas because his mother was an American citizen. I’m not going to debate it with the cult of birtherism.

But the Breitbart Crew has, only a few days after the Obama White House was caught editing the biographies of other Presidents on the White House website to insert Barack Obama into their Presidential legacies, done an invaluable service in highlighting two very important issues.

First, as someone who has written a book, I find Barack Obama’s literary agent’s explanation not very credible. The literary agent explains, “This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.”

It was a fact checking error based on . . . no facts? Barack Obama never gave any information . . . suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii? Well where the hell did this very huge extrapolation come from? It’s like the virgin birth of a legend — some lady and God alone were involved.

That’s laughable. Miriam Goderich had to have gotten the idea from somewhere. But what is more laughable is that Barack Obama did not know and did not approve. When I wrote my book, I had to approve my biography multiple times. But more damning, this biography went to the press in 1991 and it circulated for more than a decade.

Even the Associated Press picked it up and I cannot find anywhere suggesting Barack Obama tried to have the AP correct its reporting.

The point is not that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The point is that Barack Obama has repeatedly been perfectly okay embellishing and having others embellish his qualifications and biography to make himself someone unique instead of just another Chicago politician. The pattern goes back to his job as a “financial reporter”. A former colleague of his and Obama fan, way back in 2005, claims Barack Obama really embellished his resume describing his financial related reporting.

Second, and the largest point, however, is that the media is yet again caught flat footed, claiming the story is no big deal, irrelevant, or that somehow the Breitbart Crew is in the wrong and peddling Birtherism.

They are not peddling Birtherism. The Breitbart Crew are kind of like illegal immigrants — doing reporting Columbia journalism grads won’t do. And doing it quite well. In 2008, the New York Times ran a big story on John McCain having an affair with a lobbyist. It got picked up all over the place. Reporters were on the trail. There was no *there* there.

It took most of the month of August in 2004 for the media to pay attention to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth — men who served with John Kerry and had real problems with both his conduct in Vietnam and his conduct after he left Vietnam. The media did not want to cover the story. For a while, it was just Fox News. The clear demonstration of bias finally forced the New York Times and the big three nightly newscasts to play catch up as dismissively as possible.

This story has been out there since Barack Obama ran for the United States Senate. Even now the media is dismissing it as frivolous. If it turned out Mitt Romney had not actually been a missionary in France, it would be headline news.

Barack Obama embellishing his biography to make himself look unique? Hardly worthy of press attention. In fact, nothing Barack Obama has done suggesting serious character flaws — and that’s what this is about — is ever worth the media’s collective attention. Why? Because some people think Barack Obama was born in Kenya, but much of the press corps is pretty damn sure he was born in Bethlehem.

One last point — a friend raised this on email. Could this be why the campaign screams bloody murder about racists and birthers every time someone asks about Barack Obama’s college transcripts? This would explain why Obama is so squirrely about the issue and waited until Donald Trump caused him measurable damage in the polls on this issue before responding. He’s not embarrassed that people will find out he lied about being born in Hawaii; he’s embarrassed they’ll find out he lied about being born in Kenya.

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  • boonerdan

    EE says, “I do not believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I don?t think it matters even if he were born overseas because his mother was an American citizen. I?m not going to debate it with the cult of birtherism.”

    Enough said.

  • http://billbotex.blogspot.com billbotex

    Our task as Conservatives will be much more difficult if we allow LIBERALS define the discussion. They have insulted Conservatives on this particular position by calling us “Birthers” and trying to make it politically incorrect to discuss this topic.

    This type of re-definition is a very common Liberal strategy. But all we Conservatives have to do is NOT ALLOW IT. No position that Obama spends MILLIONS on to hide and prevent access to, should Conservatives be duped into taking off the table. It would be very easy for Obama to rebut, if he were anxious to stop discussion on it, BUT ONLY IF IT WERE NOT TRUE.

    You join arms with the Liberals when you use terms like their “Birthers”, and even “cults”.

    Obama’s lawyer admits – http://goo.gl/aOcX2 – “YES, OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FORGED!” but not important. IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU?

    Hawaii records official now swears affidavit – http://goo.gl/IRDaW There IS NO OBAMA HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE – vote NOBAMA 2012!

    Federal document found http://goo.gl/BT9FD of birth of a child in Kenya in 1961, to an American mother- Implicit evidence mounts! NOBAMA 2012

  • ngpsaki

    So what other parts of the Constitution don’t you care about?

  • buffalochips

    … if he were born overseas. It just depends on the laws where he was born. He could possibly hold a dual citizenship by just being born in another country.

  • jmartin70

    And yet, that wasn’t the point of EE’s article, was it, whether the President was or wasn’t born out of the country? Rather, it’s that he quite possibly lied, and might have pulled an Elizabeth Warren and to get into college by embellishing or outright fabricating his past. So….. not enough said…….at least, at this point…..

  • paco12348

    When Americans stop protecting the Constitution, America is lost. That piece of historic paper protects this Nation from anarchy. THAT is the danger we face today and again in the future, if we win this round, because our public school system teaches revisionist History and Socialist values. Separation of Church and State ruling from the Supreme Court doomed this Nation and must be revisited and reversed. When a Nation does not know its true History and Values it destroys itself from within.
    If Obama was truly born in Kenya, a great boondoggle was played on this Nation by the Progressive Democrats and is another slice taken out of the Constitution. True Democrats better wake up and recognize their proud Party has been co-opted and does not represent their interest, but seeks to destroy the Nation they love. The true Democrats are as patriotic as the proud Republicans, AND Republicans have “Rinos” in their Party also. All of us must work together to clean our Government out so America can survive. Forget Party! Work to save America!

  • tychicus

    Since John McCain was not born in the Continental US, Lefties questioned his eligibility to become president. Is John McCain a ?Natural Born Citizen? per Article 2 of the Constitution. John McCain was born in Panama while his father was serving there in the US Navy.
    John first put his BC on the web. But that was not good enough. So he opened all his records to the public. John even hired 2 constitutional scholars to investigate the case Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/12/tribeolson-memo-on-natural-born.html

    But the whole thing was cleared up and John McCain was deemed a ?Natural Born Citizen? with the passing of Senate Resolution 511:
    Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936
    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text

    At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.
    ?My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,? Chertoff replied.
    ?That is mine, too,? said Leahy.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/25337874/SR511-Technically-a-Dfinition-of-NATURAL-BORN-CITIZEN

    They were simply repeating what the Supreme Court had settled long ago Minor v. Happersett (1875) . Defining a ?Natural Born Citizen? as a child born in the US of Citizen parents.

    So, the whole issue is completely resolved and should simply die.
    Who cares if Hilary and Obama actually sponsored the bill?

    The point is that the whole issue is a lefty trap.

    We all know that Obama has opened up has records too, and both Obama?s parents were US Citizens. We know it, the US Congress knows it, Snopes knows it, INS knows it. Kenya knows it.

    So, can we just move on!

    Courage and Godspeed.

  • SoFiMil

    …”So, can we just move on?”

  • jlsankot

    He’s still not a natural born citizen. I don’t care how you look at it…mother, father, this, that….(to mimic Pelosi) his father was not a U.S. Citizen.

  • jlsankot

    you’re kidding or not, but just in case you’re not, how is his father a U.S. Citizen? The BC states he was born in what is now known as Kenya and he
    didn’t live within the boundaries of the U.S. long enough to take citizenship. From what I have read and understand, he moved back to Africa.

    Again, I just need to know if you’re being sarcastic.

  • michaelbowler

    “and both Obama?s parents were US Citizens. ”

    No, his father was a British subject. Been sleeping for a few years?

    Don’t know where he was born, and neither do you.

    What I do know is the proof he has presented is fraudulent.
    What I do know is he has allowed, without objection, others to describe him as Kenyan born.
    What I do know is he attended college describing himself as foreign.
    He was lying then or now, he has refused to clear up the lies.
    No matter how you cut it, he;s a liar and cannot be trusted to be honest.

  • SoFiMil

    -

  • hwgood

    …at the question of Bam-Bam’s birth certificate. I am all for every possible question being posed on that issue and any other issue which would require a democrat to provide proof of anything he or she was challenged on.
    When asked, McCain released all his records. Whenever a democrat is challenged the response, if any, is “Don’t be ridiculous. Next question?”

  • SoFiMil

    : )

    It was a rough night. (See his/her posting history to know what I’m talking about.)

  • SoFiMil

    I also agree this is very likely the reason Obama won’t release his college application.

  • rmcdinga

    Obama’s character has been on public display for all to see for over 3 years! It doesn’t mean squat if the NYT and other so-called “News Media Organizations” continually feed the American voter more BS! The fact is we are not a bunch of idiots! The American people have had a good long look at Mr. Obama and the more informed we are about the integrity and character of Mitt Romney vs. this amateur the more likely we the people will inevitably choose to send Mr. Obama home, wherever in hell that is! It chaps my backside to look at today’s NYT and see yet another editorial regarding the re-emergence of Rev. Wright as a “big racial move by Republicans” when Romney flat out repudiated even the suggestion that his campaign lower itself to the DNC’s level of integrity!! Obama fooled some folks once; not again!

  • radicalrighty

    Breitbart News will let the lefties lie about this for a few days, then drop the proof of their lying about THIS, a la Weinergate and Acorn.

    Solov, Pollock and co are carrying on just as Andrew would have.

    If you haven’t seen AB’s CPAC speech earlier this year, you’ve missed a treat.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=andrew+breitbart+cpac+speech&mid=C8E3E67EDB0312B335BDC8E3E67EDB0312B335BD&view=detail&FORM=VIRE2

  • strikeeagle

    It took 16 years for “the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review” to properly edit his own biography, with his literary agent no less … absolutely farcical.

  • zeezil

    “I do not believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I don?t think it matters even if he were born overseas because his mother was an American citizen. I?m not going to debate it with the cult of birtherism.”

    Really, Eric? And that would be based on what? Blind Faith? Obama has produced NOTHING factual as to where he was born. The CREDIBLE response would have been: I don’t really know where Obama was born since nothing he nor anyone else has produced answers that question. Furthermore, your ignorance of the constitutional requirements of the Presidency is astounding and troubling. How about engaging in the CULT OF REALITY???

  • radicalrighty

    Nobody else does, except “Sheriff Joe,” who has flat out declared Obama’s birth certificate, a bad fake. Now he is being sued by Holder, once again effectively changing the subject.

    The truth is, the Dems would hound a GOP president to his last day in office over lying (Richard Nixon anyone?).

    The GOP should do the same.

  • old1

    Lying is a tough game to keep up with! One lie leads to another, and another, and another. In the ’80s Obama wanted to spread the educational grant money around, he wanted some! So he came up with the I was born in Kenya lie! Got a foreign student grant out of it! That’s why all college records are hidden! In the ’90s he wanted a smoke screen to back up his college foreign student lie! Thus the release of the pamphlet. Now the pamphlet has risen up to bite him on his rear! This mans whole life is a series of lies! I can not point to one thing I know about him that I know to be absolutely true. Smoke and mirrors everywhere one looks.
    All one needs to know to prove beyond any doubt that he is an illegal ineligible POTUS is the fact Obama Sr. was never an American citizen. Unless the identity of his father is also a lie a foreign citizen father bars him from ever being considered a natural born American! A simple citizen can’t be President. To be POTUS one must be a A2., S1., p5., natural born American citizen. Stanley Ann Dunham may or may not have awarded him American Citizen status but B.H. Obama Sr. took away any right for Jr. to ever be considered natural born! To release two fake documents from the White House only further adds to the many, many, lies! So many lies, so many liars covering up these lies, and I am sure many more lies to come. Wake up America! It may already be too late!

  • exrayman4000

    I am not smart enough to be a legal expert on the US Constitution as it relates to Obama. All I know is Obama and his minions have did a lot of damage to the fabric of our society. Come January 20th 2013 I hope Obama becomes an ex president and maybe we can start the healing process. There are far too many good people out there both Democrat and Republican that’s hurting right now. However with a hostile Press and a full third of the population a virtual lost cause it’s not going to be easy!

  • streiff

    is not a good evolutionary strategy.

  • merryj1

    Obama’s father was already married when he “married” Obama’s mother (one of the possible reasons for the mystery birth-certificate bit), which should invalidate the bigamous marriage. If Obama’s mother was an unmarried American citizen when her son was born, that should make it irrelevant where he was born, or where the sperm-donor was from.

  • http://opinerlog.blogspot.com jdelaney3

    Birther cultists? Wow! When will this obscenely dishonest and dismissive spinning end, Eric? Your willful ignorance on this seminal subject is beyond mind-numbing. It’s loathesome and terribly irresponsible. Doesn’t the Constitution matter at all? Lip service doesn’t count, pal. You and your myopic ilk will someday soon eat crow once the truth is allowed the light of day. Do you actually believe the likes of Apuzo, et. al. “birther” attorneys, are deliberately prevaricating? To what end? Have you ever taken the time to objectively review their analyses? You make me sick to my stomach. Useful idiot comes to mind.

  • joydbrower

    Continuing in the vein of Obama’s penchant for lying (or, alternatively, his aversion to the truth), I’ve recently suspected that his REAL birth father was Frank Marshall Davis – his grandparents’ friend, his own mentor in high school, and, very briefly, his (very young) mother’s lover. Of course, if that were proved to be the case, there would go his exotic background, his African roots, his African name, his anti-Colonial “rage” (acc. to Dinesh D’Souza) and all the rest. BUT, it would also prove that he’s a “natural-born” citizen, ’cause both his birth parents were American citizens!! Lol… BTW, check out/compare photos of Davis and BHO – the mouth of each man bears an incredible resemblance to the other!

  • old1

    Obama Sr. did not actully “move” back to Africa! He was deported.
    You can Google it.

  • jpmhofct

    The very scary and unbelievably sad fact regarding Obama iand his administration s that he and they are being shown time after time as a bold faced liars.
    Americans of all political persuasions who truely believe in this country must not allow the disregard for the Constitution which has made this the most free and prosperous nation in history to continue.
    A criminal hides his history; – A President owes his reputation to his history and therefore his election depends on truthfulness when presenting himself as a candidate to the people.
    Clearly Obama and his supporters do not care to do so.
    HE AND THEY have fabricated a mythiical tale and are desperate to keep truth from receiving attention.
    Honest Americans – Democrat, Republican or Indpendant must force this to stop and the only direct way to do so is to defeat Obama and remove his party supporters from office. The victors in 2012 can be of any party as long as they insist upon the truth being told to the American CITIZENS. ( N.B. far too many voters are unfortunately able to avoid proving they are citizens deserving of that right). It is worth noting that Obama’s administration seems determined to prevent states from ensuring a voter is an eligible citizen. Why is that?
    Perhaps they are acknowledging that lying is OK. After all Obama lies, PILOSI AND REID LIE and lies are increasingly the norm for the media that support them.
    Americans must take control to restore some increased importance to honesty , integrity and patriotism to advance that which has guided our country since its founding : that is our CONSTITUTION AND ITS GUARANTEES OF CITIZEN’S CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT AND THE LIMITATIONS ON THE GOVERNMENTS POWERS AND ITS INSISTANCE ON THE CHARACTER OF ITS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO “PROTECT AND DEFEND ITS PRINCIPLES.

  • proudmarinemom

    If this story has teeth and creates a firestorm of indignation, doesn’t this open the door for Ms. Clinton to step up to the dais and become the left’s new hero?

    I’ve felt for some time that Obama does NOT want to win reelection.

    Now, why would that be?

  • veritaseequitas

    American born citizen or he is a bald faced liar. Either way, he is not fit to be President (besides his other non-quals).
    My former spouse was born in Liberia to American parents. He had to meet all the requirements to become an American citizen when they came back to the US to live. He is not eligible to be President.
    This is something that needs to be settled if Romney picks Marco Rubio to be his VP (which I think would be a great idea). He was born in the US to non-US born parents. Will he have to fight this fight in the future?

  • old1

    How can you say Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was a US citizen?
    NO ONE has ever stated that! We deported him! Jr. admits he was a foreign Kenyan Brit! Where do you get this lie?

  • Ausonius

    This is just classic left-wing and dictatorial thinking in general: recall “Baghdad Bob” claiming that Saddam and Company were winning as U.S. troops were minutes away from his studio. :)

    The Big Lie is something that Hitler in his book “Mein Kampf” accused Jews of doing: he of course knew all about the technique while asserting that his propaganda was the Truth. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. have all used it.

    And why? All for the sake of The People, for The Party, for whatever.

    It is distressing to see a president be exposed like this: Nixon, Clinton, and now MAObama, but we knew that the last two were liars, deceitful and shameless.

    Nixon at least resigned because of his lies.

    And what about the Truth? Why is it left shivering in the Antarctic of our politics?

    Perhaps because of what puckish composer Peter Schickele once pointed out:

    “The Truth is The Truth. You can’t have an opinion about it.”

  • tnguy

    …that Erick Ericson, someone I’ve admired for years, would write this.

  • old1

    Obama Sr. was a Kenyan Brit. Being a British Subject Sr. fell under British Law. The British Nationality Act of 1948 states that any children of a male British Subject born over seas shall be born a British Subject. Jr. was born a British Subject! Was he also born an American citizen? We do not know and it does not matter. Being born a British Subject bars Jr. from ever being considered a natural born American citizen. Gotta be natural born to be President. A2, S1, p5.

  • old1

    Bad word, birtherism. We The People are not “birthers” We simply believe the great old Constitution is still the Law of the land in this Great Country! Go against our Constitution and you stand against America! And US!
    Are you or are you not an American?

  • radicalrighty

    Not picking a fight, but last year, whenTrump started talking about the birth certificate on the networks when supposedly mulling a GOP run, he jumped to the top of the polls.

    It turned out Trump was just persuing a big raise with his tv show, but the point is, it apparently was a popular position, and it embarrassed the White House to the point that they had to produce something . . .

  • old1

    Frank had a friend, Malcolm Little, compare Obama to Little. There is a morph on youtube. The face is almost the same!

  • Bill S

    Why don’t you tell us why?

  • streiff

    If you want more information, post something endorsing birferism and wait for the result.

  • tnguy

    ….have said it better than I can.

  • Bill S

    “Many above” have said a lot of things. If you’re too big a coward to say what you think, don’t post crap like that.

  • romeg

    his father was not an American citizen. If Obama was born in the US then perhaps the question of whether or not he is a natural born citizen for the purposes of being eligible for the office of POTUS is worthy of an answer. If he was NOT born in the US then he is NOT qualified because he doesn’t meet the eligibility requirements due to the fact that BOTH parents were NOT U.S. Citizens.

    But this is a moot issue in any case. He IS POTUS and by the time a court of inquiry (whether in the Congress or some other venue) is convened he and we will be long dead.

    The lesson here is that the vaunted 4th estate utterly failed in its duty to vet a candidate for the office. Not only that but they may have actually worked to suppress or withhold information they had in order to boost his candidacy.

  • justperhaps45

    How do you parse? I was taught that truth was the pure state of information. Any amount less than pure was not truth. Intent to deceive or deliberate failure to correct a falsehood made for a full lie. Not a half, an almost, a sort-of, a kind’a but a LIE.

    A lie is the deliberate killing of truth.

    I suspect that we all lie. Some of us still feel remorse. Some just think it makes our speech more interesting.

  • PowerToThePeople

    or incidental hole?

    Either way, one of you mods were quite busy last night purging the site of the birthers who were able to remain hidden for so long. I would have thought most of the birthers would have moved on to another conspiracy by now, but I was wrong.

  • pbeck

    This constant bombardment of questionable history is probably meant to serve as a sensory overload tactic by Obama?s handlers. What America?s Black community may want to step back and examine is the apparent belief on the part of Barack H. Obama that being born in America as a Black man just ?isn?t good enough? for HIS testimony. In other words, ya?ll just a bunch of losers and you?ll never make it, but I?m ?exotic?.

  • Sapient

    Normally, I truly appreciate Erick Erickson, but here, there are major issues..

    Regarding the global warming theory, one real climate scientist said the BIG problem is that nothing proves it wrong and every thing proves it right: too hot or too cold. Too much snow or too little, etc. And that, is simply not rational analysis.

    The great fictional detecve Sherlock Holmes put it this way:

    “It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts”

    We see that here in Erick’s analysis.

    His mind is made up regardless of the evidence that is presented to him– On this, no evidence will disprove his theory becauase he is being subjective, and twists any contradicting fact to fit his theory, instead of even considering his theory might be incorrect. He has predetermined that evidence, no matter what,.”SIMPLY CANNOT PROVE THIS!”

    The first victim of this is truth, which is al the birther “cult” wants. The truth, what ever that might be.

    Because of this bias, the guilty are never brought to the bar and the innocent are injured. We find all three of those in this piece. He attacks the “birther cult” who simply want the truth, with greater vehemence than he does Obama or those who assist him.

    Sorry Erick. Its a sad day for al lof us, especially for those wwho rely on your commentary. What else are you being biased about.

    God bless

    PS: consider using the CIA technique of “Analysis of Competing Hypothesis” as a too for objective analysis.

  • citizenkh

    The entire point of the Breitbart article is to expose Obama as a liar.

    Sheesh, there is way too much Obama Derangement Syndrome going on. I’m glad that I did not catch it instead remaining logical and suspicious of off the beaten path Infowars type websites all hype and few facts.

  • thefrogprince

    I don’t consider myself a birther but as a natural born citizen I think I have the right to know all there is to know about a person who is the POTUS. I would much rather see his college transcripts and records. That would tell me all I need to know. I suspect that Obama obtained aid as a “foreign student.”

    If that is so, and he was indeed a citizen of this nation, that is called – FRAUD.

    Nuff said?

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    Evolution lives for moments like these–she’s having a blast doing what she does best!

  • josephine

    @#$%^&*(&^%$#@@@@$%^&*
    This is absolutely the most ridiculous sham against our country and the office of the president that has ever been exposed. I think he should be jailed right at this moment.
    I have become a birther. I will remain a birther until this man is run out of this country in tar and feathers.
    He has destroyed the office of the Presidency.
    These people are liars. This is fraud. Why wasn’t this exposed in 2008? I am so angry that my tongue is tied.
    I want to see him in handcuffs. And also Valerie and Michelle.
    I want Speaker Boehner to Man Up and go after these people. Only I hope they wait until the convention.
    I have to disagree with Erick today. This is a big deal. Obama used that bio until 2007. You can not convince me that he never read that. And that matter, I believe he was born in Kenya, and that plus his father makes him ineligible to be President.
    Erick, you will have to debate the birth, because it is a real problem. We have a natural born communist is what we have. I’m a little bit peeved.

  • tnguy

    Disregard for the constitution, fear of being called a racist, no qualms with using leftist terms, etc etc etc.

    “Birthers”? Really? What other language of the left will you be adopting next?

    If there’s any cowardice, it is on the republican side in the form of those who are afraid of messy issues, like this one. Wouldn’t want Boehner, Romney, or McConnell to have to answer any uncomfortable questions about race. It’s much easier to stay on the good side of the main stream media and keep it clean by just talking about the economy.

    I mean, whose bio doesn’t say they were born in Kenya. My firm makes that mistake on my bio all the time…those IT and marketing people with their typos. And my wife mistakenly refers to Kenya as my homeland as well. I’m sure these things happen to everyone.

  • SpiderMike

    I do not believe an honest Democrat exists. A Vietnamese friend told me Democrats are cousins to Communists. Democrat leadership has no values, they are fine with lying as long as it advances their socialist agenda. The rank and file are but useful idiots. I use to think that Democrat leadership was taken in by the “clean” Obama in ’08 but their silence on a laundry list of revelations concerning Obama’s true background convinces me they knew the truth all along. For the survival of their specious political party, Democrats will make the denial of post war Nazis look small time.

  • Green_Lantern

    I am not a “birther” either. But it is inappropriate for you to describe people who are “birthers” as a cult.

    It also doesn’t matter what you think when you say “his mother was an American citizen”. That’s not how the law is written.

    It is arrogant of you to call those people a “cult”. You are elevated in the media, and when you are in a position like that, arrogance can creep up on you. Recognize it.

    Remember what we said when there weren’t any WMDs found in Iraq? We said “It was appropriate to believe that there were.” Because it WAS appropriate. Sadam wouldn’t let us look. He wanted to continue to bluff Iran. And we thought he had them.

    Look at Obama’s past. It is APPROPRIATE TO BELIEVE THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE. Whether there actually is or not, who can say? So much is shrouded in mystery.

    But to continue to call these people a cult, people of LIKE MIND on most issues, looks only like you are trying to curry favor with elitists. I know that’s not your nature.

  • pbeck

    If Erickson chooses to believe that the Earth was created with natural healing properties, and that mankind is incapable of affecting global environmental conditions for even the short term, then that’s his right. And it’s my right also. At best, humans could have an adverse affect on local or maybe regional climate conditions with smog, but there is no verifiable evidence that humans are responsible for the Earth’s temps to go up, or down for any predictable period of time. If the Goreistas want a specific result to boost their theories, they’ll fabricate the inputs in order to guide the results of the study. They have been proven to have done that many times. If the rather smart folks associated with NASA have issues with this so-called human-caused global warming theory, then the science must not be conclusive.

  • scmom

    and THAT is the point here. Either he lied about being born in Kenya or he lied about being born in Hawaii. It really doesn’t matter… We can’t un-do what has been done. What we have to do is expose this charlatan for what he is, and work our buns off to see that he does not get re-elected. Until that happens we CANNOT fix what is wring with this country, plain and simple.

    Come on, folks, don’t let yourselves get side-tracked by the details of the lie… that’s like getting in an argument with your child about privacy when you find drugs in his room while cleaning up after him. The point is that there are drugs!

    The point here is that he is a liar, a cheat and an egomaniac. What more do we need to know? The most important thing here is that there is now evidence, in writing, of the lie…. a great place to begin dismantling this corrupt administration.

  • clintonformccain

    …but my “sniff test” tells me that Mitt Romney’s campaign has had four years to put together oppo research on our dear friend Barry and that we are seeing pieces of it discretely leaked to media without fingerprints.

    The problem for Barry is not Kenya versus Hawaii. The problem is that folk might start to ask, “Who IS this guy?” A narrative is emerging that he is a “composite” character.

  • PowerToThePeople

    you have no more of an understanding of the law then you do that your ass is not a hole in the ground, and very soon you will no longer be able to post here and we will be rid of yet one more dumbass.

  • Bill S

    Bravo for “getting it”. Erick states it himself:

    The point is not that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The point is that Barack Obama has repeatedly been perfectly okay embellishing and having others embellish his qualifications and biography to make himself someone unique instead of just another Chicago politician.

    That’s exactly it. Who cares where he was born? The point is – he is lying, has been lying, and continues to lie.

  • jaykali

    Instead of looking for birth certificates people should have been asking for college transcripts and job history and looking into legitimate stuff, and this falls into that category.

    The birtherism stuff is so cemented out there that I think people will dismiss this as just another birther story. I don’t think anyone pays attention to this sort of thing anyway. This would be a real story probably if we hadn’t already been saturated with a bunch of birther stories already. And this will fan the flames of the birther crowd who will put this in the ‘evidence’ pile and drown out the real message which is that Obama is a narcissist to the highest extent and this is maybe the same kind of thing Elizabeth Warren was guilty of.

    But no one will make that argument bc this will just be another racist birther story.

  • Bill S

    They’re a cult.

  • Bill S

    .

  • jaykali

    He has an f-ing birth certifcate. Don’t tell me it was forged bc 50 years ago they knew he was going to be president.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    You put rotten food in the middle of the kitchen counter and turned off the lights. How could they not all come running out of the woodwork?

  • spelunker

    His supposed father was a British citizen. Enough said.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AWG9_yoyo yoyo

    We (in SC) cannot even get the Democrats agree to provide proof of WHO THEY REALLY ARE prior to voting without having Eric Holder sending his lackys down here to challenge it – so how do you propose ENFORCING the requirement on them “…to provide proof of anything he or she was challenged on” when it is a private individual/institution that is withholding it? Other than his autobio’s, BHO has not been published (I don’t believe so, at least.) That means his transcripts or thesi [what is the plural of thesis???] are not available…

    But do you REALLY need his transcripts or [thesi] or double-stamped-triple-notorized certified birth certificate to KNOW our President and who he is? Hasn’t the last few years provided enough insight into his mindset and policies? Do you (or ANYONE for that matter), after all these years need more to properly vett him in your mind? I don’t believe you do – in that I have faith.

    I am all for transparency, but not everything is subject to a FOIA, so – like Harvard – all they [Pols of both Parties] have to do is ask [quietly] those PRIVATE institutions to not release anything. Then, they can publicly claim plausible deniability. So, like the proverb, accept what you cannot change….

    But, of course, that was not the intention of the original post – EE was trying to explain why BHO would want them hidden: Obama is embarrassed.

    And that is a really awful position to be in when you are an Incumbent President up for reelection and, more importantly, an even worse position to be in for those of your party down-ticket on election day.

  • Green_Lantern

    n/t

  • wintermute

    haven’t you ever seen The Omen?

  • Green_Lantern

    He was born in Hawaii. I get it. What I don’t get is denigrating people on your own side.

    And Power To The People, I’m an entrepreneur, a technology company executive, and a precinct chair. I’m not a dumb ass.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AWG9_yoyo yoyo

    a telling of truth in a manner that leads the reciever of the information believe it to be untrue. My kids love that game of semantics.

    Consider–

    DAD: “Did you dump all of these leggos all over the kitchen floor?”

    SON: “No.”

    DAD: “When I walked in, you were standing in the middle of them and tossing them in the air. You are the only kid home, so why are you lying to me?”

    SON: “But you asked if I “DUMPED” them; I didn’t – I LAID them all out on the floor in the living room and then moved them into the kitchen because they would not slide very well on the carpet like they do on the tile in the kitchen.”

    A Half-Lie.

  • scmom

    “But this is a moot issue in any case. He IS POTUS and by the time a court of inquiry (whether in the Congress or some other venue) is convened he and we will be long dead.” I could not agree more.

    Again… we can’t go back and have a mulligan… what’s done is done.

    Get this information out there… exposed the lies… get him out of the WhiteHouse and get rid of this corrupt administration.

    Stop letting them side-track us with infighting…

    Birther, schmirther… whatever! Stop wasting your time!

  • gekster

    people can claim to be anything they want on the internet.

    I myself am a rocket scientists.

    That’s for today, tommorrow I’ll be something else. ;)

  • Common_Cents

    nt

  • Sapient

    AMEN

    The question is whether there is reasonable belief to demand some objective proof, and by that i mean something other than someone’s opinion pro or con.

    That is not how we administer law in this country. We use evidence and we pursue that evidence until there is a reasonable resolution…at minimum perponderance of evidence.

    Do we have reason to believe there is something amiss? If so, then it needs to be pursued to where ever it leads regardless of who doesn’t like it.

    if we will not do that, we have sacrified the Constitution AND the rule of law.

    Gotta love Teddy Roosevelt:

    “No man is above the law, and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man?s permission when we require him to obey it.”

    Today we are being told that is not the case for some. No wonder lawlessness abounds.

    God bless

  • Racist

    Maddeningly , it seems that a majority of otherwise logical, intelligent, and influential Republicans/Conservatives seem to suffer from the same irrational fear of being marginalized, by the very people who already spend most of their time and a whole lot of Soros money attacking them and perpetuating lie after lie! The Obama Media are like the Jihadis who are actively working to destroy any opposition to their master, including Eric. But in the case of Obama’s eligibilty, Conservatives are scared to death to even peep outhe window to see what’s happening. And far too many are willing to throw anyone who dare question obama, under the bus and parrot the Dem talking point. Even in the face of extremely damning evidence, and given Obama’s confirmed track record of lying incessantly, most won’t even consider the possibility, and take an “objective look!

    This is why people, like Eric and Boehner, MacLame and now Romney are scared to acknowledge the fact that there is more verifiable evidence that points toward ineligible than points to eligible. This booklet included. Media Matters is now goingt to go after the publisher and try to “discredit them. Says their webpsite, as well as HuffPoo and others. But if “we” cant stand up to the State-run propaganda BrownShirts now, over something as important as possibly having an illegitimate foreign enemy combatant in the White House already acting like a dictator, Who’s going to stand up when they actually start executing protesters?

  • PowerToThePeople

    and it still does not change the fact you are a dumbass.

  • angryguy77

    That we have evidence to back up the “cults” claim and it’s still dismissed. It seems we have more pointing to Obama as unqualified for the office than we do for.

    I’m not saying that he isn’t, rather this shouldn’t be dismissed as some sort of conspiracy. There is evidence, that is all, and Obama has given us more to question his legitimacy than not too.

    What disturbs me is EE making fun of those who think he’s not legally qualified for POTUS. Is EE trying to avoid being made fun of by the elites? If so, one has to question his credibility. Anyone who reports or comments on current events needs to do so without being worried about whether or not he’ll fit into the click.

    RS has dropped a few notches in my book after this EE. Keep eating like-minded people and this site will be nothing more than place to go for comic relief.

    I think an apology is warranted.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I understand the rage against the birthers, but please mind our language rules.

    Also, I’d appreciate it if you’d reduce the height of that image in your signature. all that blank space is unnecessary.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

  • PowerToThePeople

    they are rejects.

    And sure you are buddy, and Gekster is a rocket scientist.

    Freaking dumbass.

  • PowerToThePeople

    nt

  • annie54

    Perhaps part of the Obama composite is that he’s really the illegitimate son of a black, married man (not married to Ann). A bastard. I have the FBI File on Malcolm X ISBN 0-88184-751-8 – a hard bound book. The man was in Seattle while Ann & her parents lived there. They all belonged to the SWP (Socialist Workers Party).

    Frank Marshall Davis was there also – another black, married man and an SWP member and very close to Ann & her family.

    The man in the White House is a downright liar.

    It has been reported by Ann’s friend in Seattle that she showed Ann how to change little Barry’s diaper when he was a couple weeks old IN SEATTLE! Was he actually born in Vancouver in an unwed mother’s home?

    Oh wait – ignore the birthers – ignore conspirary theorists. WHY, for pete’s sake? They aren’t the “crazy people”. The crazy people are the ones who are so bent on not talking about the facts and information that implicates the fraud who is destroying the United States of America! What if he were a Republican?

  • tnguy

    n/t

  • Sapient

    Jaykali
    There are LOTS of arguments that can be made.

    NONE of them are resolved by supposition, theory, politics, etc.

    ALL of them can be resolved by insisting on objective facts and letting those facts lead where they may–ie the truth.

    As I understand it, THAT is all the birthers actually want–the truth of it which ever way it fallls, but the truth for sure, which ever way it falls.

    God bless

  • johnt

    What matters most is Otrash’s hatred of America, but to dismiss the birth issue entirely is both a mistake and possibly a pose of ersatz sophistication. Note Erick’s comment on a Romney scenario, then you would see the importance.
    Obama is dumb enough and arrogant enough not to have addressed this before. As for the birthers, they didn’t look crazy earlier, even less so now. In any case I am intersted on where this piece of garbage was born. Spare me the Hawaii thing, the one the Govenor made a fool out of himself on, the one that came up originally with a substitute document, the one it took weeks to present what could have been shown in a day, an O By the Way moment.

  • funwithknives

    and most will never,ever admit to backing a loser, or the loser’s causes. This trait has it’s pluses and minuses. Not many smarts are needed to see where this dreck lies.

    Remember when Bill and the blue dress commenced? You could not find an admitted Clinton Voter for Love, Money, or a 2 for1 trade.

    It’s the same, but a trifle different, right here.
    But this time Progressives scream their approval, by their silence. There’s a bunch of difference between some temporary lust in the P M, and what we have, currently.
    The tactic is the same: Nothing to look at here,..MoveOn…..Next Topic?

    The Sunday Talking Heads/Alphabet Networks, will either totally ignore this or make Conservatives out to be “..really Awful People..” {among other phrases that you’re gonna hear}

    Well of couse we are. We learned it in Conservative School, alongside: Racism #101,and Starving Old People ,#201 &#301.

  • hunter

    Pushing this as a constitutional crisis is a loser approach.

  • hunter

    But the issue is that Obama is selling fictionalized versions of himself as his desires change.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    I am honored to present their role models of efficacy:

  • funwithknives

    Kemosabe? It might-ent be “knowledge” at your address , but wishing for something does not make it happen, unless you’re selling old DVD’s of ” The Secret”, at a flea market.
    If B O Senior was a U S citizen, where is your link/proof/citation?
    The rest of your post is Full-a Them.
    Just make one up so we can debunk it. Repeatedly and factually.

    Izzat o k with you?

    {Give us some sugar, honey…}

  • jaykali

    Bc I feel like that’s going to lead us down a wormhole. Where do you think this ends? I can tell you, nowhere. I really don’t understand people’s obsession with the fact that even tho we have a birth certificate that everyone has seen by now that we still have to dive into all this other stuff. For what reason? It’s not going anywhere. Unless you have hidden video of Obama 50 years ago coming out the womb in a Kenyan hospital, you aren’t going to have anything that is going to get him out of office.

    It’s just not going to happen. And it’s really annoying to be quite honest. It’s like we have tons and tons of things to attack Obama on that are legitimate. These get buried bc Birthers are obsessed with this issue. I can’t explain it other than people love conspiracies. People love to think there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll. Lefties love to think that 9-11 was an inside job. And Birthers love to think Obama was a Kenyan.

    I hate that this particular story is like cocaine to Birthers, it will just make them go on and on until election day.

  • Sapient

    Hunter

    Most everyone, even Obama’s attorney, agrees he lies about this. The quesion is, are some lies more important than others?

    Q: Honey, does this make my butt look big?
    A; Why no. You look very nice.

    Q: are you eligible to hold the office of the most powerful man in the world, a sacred trust of the people of this nation?
    A: sure

    BTW: lets just suppose the Constitution requires certain things before one is to be eligible for the highest office in the land, and then lets suppose that we have people insisting we should require proof someone is in compliance with that requirement….would that not be a constitutional crisis?

    Personally, there are many of us who took at oath to defend that Constitution, and it did not specifiy “this part” only, or if convenient.

    You are ok for asking for driver’s licences to assure someone is eligible to drive their vehicle…ritght?

  • hunter

    It says “natural born”. In US law “natural born” seems to be defined as EITHER born here or born to a US citizen. Either mother or father will do. The constitution does not say “native born”. it says “natural born” and I am not aware of a definition of that term. If you have a legally valid definitino, please feel free to share it.
    I see this as a real indictment of Obama’s character- another reason to have a “yuck” factor regarding Obama. I will be surprised if it turns out to be a constitutional crisis.

  • hunter

    Do you think the Senate will try him if he is impeached? Doyou think, if prevails in the election that the house will refuse to ratify the electoral college?
    Are you really certain of what the Constitution actually states as qualification? I do not mean this disrespectfully, but I have read it and it is not as plain as you might think. the term “natural born” is not defined in the Constitution. If you have a legally accepted definition, please share it.
    I think the character issue, and the increasing “yuck” eraction Obama inspires, and the decreasing enthusiasm of his supporters is enough.
    A consitutional crisis on the scale some are speaking of is quite dangerous and I am in no hurry for it. I am not rejecting it, but we are looking at a steep cliff with lots rocks at the bottom.
    Let’s keep this as an election. Team Obama is flailing around like a bunch of morons at this point. We should stay out of their way and let them continue.

  • porkandcheese

    The Lyin’ King’s and Nancy “Pass it to find out what’s in it” Pelousi’s word.

  • hunter

    it seems likely that Obama was using it to his advantage is a story about a lack of character in Obama and his manipulation of those around him for his advantage.
    The birther narrative is like you said: a political cocaine.

  • mspector

    OK, a couple of points. First, I am not a “birther”. I am an attorney by trade and I have this compulsion to discover facts. So a big part of my concern on this whole issue is the extent to which Obama has covered up, distorted or misrepresented facts. At one level, Erick’s statement that he still does not believe Obama was born in Kenya works as a nice bit of “judo”: “were you lying then, or are you lying now?” On this one, Obama has no neat exit.

    All that said, if Obama was in fact born in Kenya as was stated in various ways (including by Michelle and newspapers in Kenya) prior to 2007, I am not at all sure he qualifies as a U.S. citizen. Here is the statute:

    8 USCs ?1431. Children born outside the United States and residing permanently in the United States; conditions under which citizenship automatically acquired

    (a) A child born outside of the United States automatically becomes a citizen of the United States when all of the following conditions have been fulfilled:
    (1) At least one parent of the child is a citizen of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization.
    (2) The child is under the age of eighteen years.
    (3) The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence.

    Stanley Dunham was a US citizen, but so far as I know section (3) was never met (I admit to not knowing every detail of what we are told of Obama’s early biography). And even if Obama were born in Kenya and did qualify under this statute, I think that is considerably removed from being a “natural born” citizen.

    All that will play out. In the meantime, as a political strategy I do think it preferable to hammer Obama on the “when were you lying?” meme. He can have no acceptable answer.

  • celador2

    If lies have been listed as fact on official publications or in a memoir about Barack Obama at any phase in his life the public needs to know. Set the record straight, its never too late.

    The quest to get the facts straight on a biography’s version of events is unending when a president or any elected offical is concerned. In this case its an offical printed literary booklet not a story but an actual printed and once digital document. Obama is described as born in Kenya.

    The press reprinted clips and blurbs of Obama’s autobiographies as fact 2008. That Obama- in- his -own- words storyline has framed the narrative on who is Obama the President. Since Obama’s versions of events may not be accurate there is work to be done.

    Very good work by Breitbart team and RS for picking up on this ‘Kenyan birth’ persona.

    I posted in Tim Stanley’s ‘Telegraph’ aticle last night also.
    Posters speculated why the literary booklet promo with the Kenyan biirth tag. Was it to look like a good book buy for cool international readers? Who cares?

    Obama lied about where he was born because he let a lie stand 1991-2007 and never corrected the record until he ran for president.

  • funwithknives

    one of the new normals for this day and age is MovingOn. No one of seeming morality or manners likes or appeciates a bottom-scraper.

    ‘scmom’ sees the light here. Save you energy, we’re all gonna need it ,really soon.
    Publish this stuff in cohesive fashion, for one 24 hr cycle and walk away.

    “South Carlolina: Land of Interesting Citzens.” Sounds like a good motto.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    Oh wait, that was a different high profile Democrat.

    Affirmative Action…it’s not just for minorities anymore.

  • josephinevitale

    The people who are too stupid to know that Article II makes Obama COMPLETELY ineligible to be President should join the other party and STOP calling themselves “Conservatives.” It DOES matter…and to think it doesn’t is pissing on the Forefathers’ graves. What part of the CONSTITUTION do people like Erickson live under? Only some of it? Because they sure as hell do NOT understand WHY the Forefathers put the Natural Born Citizen clause in it.

    If you think about WHY they did it…OBAMA is the poster boy for their thought process. They had just gotten rid of being ruled by King George and they thought better of having their beautiful new experiment, America, run by someone who had divided loyalties, or loyalties to another country. As we have seen by our KENYAN BORN idiot “President” he has NO LOYALTIES TO AMERICA. In fact, Dinesh Disouza covers this pretty well…Obama’s hatred of the UK and America and his “anti-colonial” sentiment. This is EXACTLY what the Founders were trying to stop by having the NBC clause. They were trying to stop someone like Obama who hated our country and would try to destroy it.

    I am ashamed of people like Erickson, Boehner, etc. who ridicule the birther thing and refuse to honor our Constitution. Obama was born in Kenya. Period. Most of us have known this for four years. There is a TON of evidence that he was born in Kenya, and only ONE badly forged birth certificate that we all laugh at that says he was born in Hawaii. Other than that, there is NOTHING that says Hawaii, But his own grandmother, he himself and his wife Michelle ALL call Kenya Obama’s “home country” and the grandmother says she was IN THE ROOM IN KENYA when he was born. GROW UP PEOPLE. HE WAS BORN IN KENYA.

    Oh, yeah, and for the record…I live and work in Hollywood and represent writers myself. There is exactly ZERO CHANCE that agent Jane Dystel, being a life long pro, would not run the bio past her client, Obama. That is unheard of. We just do NOT do that. Not one rep in Hollywood would even THINK to just make up some bio for a client and not get it approved. So the media spin machine is lying to cover up a fraud.

    Obama is the biggest hoax, con job and fraud ever perpetrated on America. If people like Boehner and Erickson would actually do some homework, and start loving America more than their fear of being called racists, then we could stop this from ever happening again. Because of the Faux Conservatives who don’t honor the Constitution, we WILL elect another foreigner who hates us. THANKS GUYS!

  • funwithknives

    or a Zebra Mussel in Michigan,you might have been ‘Borned Here’, but you still need eradication.

    On with the pest control,……….

  • mspector

    You are correct; the Constitution does not define the phrase. So far as anyone knows it was presented by John Jay who may have had some particular definition and purpose in mind, but there is nothing in the record of the Constitutional Convention on the point so nobody knows what the intent of the Convention as a whole was.

    Further, no Supreme Court case has addressed the issue as such, much less ruled on it. There is some common law authority for the construction some argue for, but not in this country and the Constitution does not import the common law of England wholesale.

    The only thing that can be said for certain is that it must mean something other than the ordinary word “citizen”. What that “something other” was, however, can only be argued.

  • westcoastpatriette

    pretending to be a Kenyan born resident — that is fraud. Period.

    But, you know, what’s a few lies got to do with it? No biggie. Just important enough to spend a few mill’ to hide the record from everyone. But, who’s askin’?

  • annie54

    and she’ll be the “Savior” at the Dem Dum Convention. Her Serfs in Serfdom will sigh in relief and name her the next POTUS.

  • mspector

    As I wrote above, it makes tactical sense to accuse him of lying about being Kenyan born in the biography posted from 1991 to 2007. He is then in the position either of affirming what the biography says, or admitting that it was false. Either way, it’s a loser for him.

  • Viet71

    Haven’t dug into the constitutional issue.

    But if he lied, for example, in getting a driver’s license, that could be a perjury problem. And if some official in Hawaii has issued a false birth certificate, he or she would have big problems.

    Really interesting diary.

  • Viet71

    n/t

  • mspector

    It deepens his problem. Again the question: “were you lying then, or are you lying now?”

    But claiming Kenyan nationality on college admission papers or on loan applications would (a) be fraud, and (b) an admission that his Kenyan birth is true.

    That said, there are federal statutory provisions that would still permit him to claim citizenship through his citizen parent (I quoted one above; the other is 8 USCS 1401[g]). I think however that even so, the natural response would be “we have the right to know.” And ultimately that is the point on which Obama is condemned: he invents and reinvents his history. Our President should be an open book.

  • funwithknives

    that ……………I got nuttin’.

    What He Said……..

  • cbartlett

    Or at least the same? My recollection was that Nixon resigned because he lied under oath about KNOWING what happened in the Watergate incident – not that he actually DID the deed. Obama should be treated the same. I still think that he’s lying about knowing about the Fast & Furious mess too – which is MUCH worse – Americans actually died as a result of that fiasco. I am surprised that Obama hasn’t thrown Holder under the bus for that one yet so they won’t be able to “Watergate” him for it.

  • funwithknives

    and using this claim to go to a Madrasa?

    Thought I saw an Indonesian School application around the ether, somewhere. Now, where was that thing……I just had it…….

  • jaykali

    THAT is the bombshell. I can tell you it is very tantalizing to actually see a biography in an image with young O’s little portrait detailing how he was born in Kenya. As a non-birther this is still fascinating. I can only imagine a birther’s head exploding when they see this same biography.

    The story is that O’ like many politicians reinvent themselves when it becomes politically expedient. This is something Romney is accused of for sure. It is much more sensational though when you are actually claiming to be from another country or of a different ethnicity (see Elizabeth Warren). That sort of thing makes is what makes news.

    Or it SHOULD make news. I can already tell you the headlines that I will see on the Today show or any other mainstream news program.

    Natalie Morales will read:
    “A new biography of Obama was found claiming that Obama was born in Kenya. This has inflamed many on the right who believe that Obama was not born in this country. The original editor who wrote the biography says that this was a biographical error and did not contact Obama before publishing the bio.”

    Next story..

    And if they have to follow up later they will follow up with a story on how crazy birthers are foaming at the mouth ab Obama not being born in this country.

  • mspector

    The application stated his citizenship as Indonesian and his religion as Muslim. However, that was certainly information provided by Lolo Soetoro.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    since he is the original birther. Of course, there are a million other valid reasons to ban him.

    OBAMA 2012: The Original Birther!

  • hunter

    My wife is a legal immgrant to the US and her naturalization process was not complete when our two children were born here in Texas. They are both US citizens from birth because
    1) they are born here
    2) I am a US citizen.
    Period. I have seen arguments like yours elsewhere and they are flat out wrong, as are you on this.
    Your point about the media is correct. This entire problem is due Obama’s lack of character in misrepresenting his story and in the media for slavishly and lazily accepting it, with not even reasonable review.
    The birther narrative is a side-show distraction and a losing effort.

  • jaykali

    Obama brings up all kenya/birth keywords. This is funny and I think will damage him in the end.

  • rwehouston

    The Kenyan-candidate has obviously been groomed and provided top-cover by traitors in high places for quite some time to destroy this nation. The only thing that could have stopped him would have been for someone to make him provide positive proof of his eligibility under the Constitution. And yet those of us who dare challenge this lying imposter are ridiculed and marginalized by those supposedly in our own tent. Just asking the question gets you branded as some nut case birther.

    So what other parts of the Constitution that we proclaim to hold so dear (and many have died to protect) do we no longer care about?

    I had to provide more proof of citizenship than this quisling POTUS has ever shown to enlist and serve my country, and hold any sort of security clearance.

    I am disappointed, discouraged and dismayed. Alarm has given way to abject panic, hope for the future has given way to just trying to figure out how to save me and my family from whats coming. Something Stinks. We’ve all been had.

  • fightnright

    “Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.”

    but the writer then made a GUESS as to one the most primary facts of a biography?

    “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. ”

    Why would a literary agent NOT in possession of that fact then choose to make a guess at it, rather than simply omit it, or make a phone call to verify?

    Obama lied. It is more of a stretch to believe that a literary agent would invent the place of his birth, than Obama did.

  • cbartlett

    Let’s make him pay back all that financial aid he received because he lied about being a foreign student. How would the MSM and his supporters handle that?

    I guess my expectation of the president of the US being of good character is just too high. Lying and cheating are now acceptable characteristics of good character?

  • Bill S

    ..

  • funwithknives

    to the Presidential Bios, wasn’t he smart e-nuff to have applied on his lonesome , helped with the Imam’s lesson plans and assisted in the Kitchen? {Protein Course, a specialty!}
    After-school tutoring and Gus Macker [3 on3] instruction was a given.

    …or so I’ve heard. That’s the rumor. Keep it on The Q T .
    Nudge, nudge, say no more………..

  • hunter

    Exactly what Barak approved.
    That is the story: That Obama shape-shifts his heritage and his life experiences to sell himself to others.
    It is now acknoweldged that Obama, in his first book, fabricated characters “composites”, to help make points. We know he fibbed about posting legislation for review prior to voting. We know he fibbed about a lot of the Obamacare stuff. We know he at best has demonstrated terrible judgement in regards to green investments. we know that the taliban is simply waiting out Obama as he telegraphs American intentions to leave Afghanistan long before it is wise to do so. We know Obama places his political prestige higher than natinal security when leaks important intel regarding Al Qaeda attempts to make undetectable bombs. We know Obama embellished his role in killing Osama.
    We know that Obama has not kept his word on economic recovery. We know his Administration and his AG are in contempt of Congress on Fast and Furious.
    We know he let the New Black Panters off the hook legally in Philly when the NBP terrorized that voting place, and when they call for violence and place bounties on people.
    Where was he born? Who cares? It is obvious he deceives people about this topic to gain adavantage. That is enough.

  • hunter

    Check the Constitution. It does not say what you think it says.
    Eric is spot on with this.
    If I was advising Romney or any Republican, I would advise to stay nothing except that Obama has produced a legitimate birth certificate so it is surprising to see that he may have made other claims in the past.
    And refer all questions to the Obama adminstration.
    This is an Obama failure, not a Republican problem.
    Do not help your opponents dig out sefl-created holes. Obama has dug a deep hole on this.

  • cbartlett

    YES! I sure would like to hear some MSM reporter stick a micrphone in his face and ask that question directly. Or maybe we could convince one of those late-night hosts he is so fond of to sneak the question in. Can you imagine the press they’d get for that?

    mspector said it – there IS no acceptable answer to the question.

  • robobbob

    and he’ld still not qualify. His father was a British subject. Under British law, Obama automatically became a British subject, at best, a dual citizen. In no way a natural born American citizen. Too bad no court is willing to stand up and rule yes or even no. cowards.

  • angryguy77

    and realize the founders drew on his work when drafting the Constitution.

    “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society can not exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as a matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHERS IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN.”

    I’d also read this http://www.federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined/

  • deuke

    are an instigator of dissension. I’ve yet to see anything you write that contributes, either to the conversation or to understanding of the issues. You are rude, obnoxious and may be one of Obama’s czars — of dissension.
    I’d find it hard to believe that you have any knowledge of the law or the U.S. Constitution. How you are not moderated out of here, surprises me.

    Wanting to know if Obama fulfills the requirements, laid out in the Constitution, and supported by Supreme Court rulings, (depending on a variety of interpretations), concerning the issue of, “Natural born citizen…” is not a cult.

    Nor is it a waste of time to examine all of his records; it is our duty as Americans – to make informed choices about our representatives. Neither is it futile to point out that mainstream media is culpable for promoting a lie, or to opine that Erick has candy-coated the subject, and seems not to stand taller in demanding the truth, from both the media and the POTUS.

    But you might not know that – being so young and all.

  • fightnright

    he specifically lied *about the place of his birth*, and that is a significant lie for one who would run for PotUS.

    Especially one who would be quoted by MSNBC as saying re: the BC issue “‘We do not have time for this kind of silliness.”

  • http://conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com ew88

    That agent’s standard OP is to have the authors write their own bios! We don’t know for sure if Obama did, but that is the way that office works in general. Yup, he’s a liar.

  • romeg

    nt

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    One more thing the lapdog media never reported on:
    The Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, very closely tied to Obama in several ways, did a study in early 2006 advocating the elimination of the Constitution’s requirement that the President be a natural-born citizen:

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_conspiracy/OpeningGambit.htm

    Why would that firm do that study?

  • hunter

    Anyone born in the US is a natural born US citizen no matter the birthplace or citizenship of the father or mother.
    Anyone born with at least one parent who is an American citizen even outside the US is a citizen, period.
    Millions and millions of American citizens are born in families of mixed citizenship. Hundreds of thousands, if notmillions, have been born to Americans overseas and are automatically Amercian citizens.
    You have repeated this elsewhere, and were just as wrong then and there.
    You look foolish, and by extension make a lot of good people look foolish when you promote this sort uninformed stuff.
    I suggest you either stop or provide specific legal references to support your point.

  • Green_Lantern

    At the next gathering, my friend.

  • Green_Lantern

    I. am. not. a. birther. I am sick of getting attacked on here for posting an opinion.

  • Kyle-MI

    As shown by the many, many stupid, idiotic, brain-dead birthers posting here; it does the conservative side absolutely no good to bring up the issue of Obama’s birth place. Whatever the point, the issue quickly gets hijacked by morons.

    People, we will have an election that will get Obama out of the White House much faster and cleaner than any legal nit-picking on the Constitution. Unfortunately, this garbage by the birther cult only serves to distract from the more important issues such as Obamacare, the economy, deficit spending, and jobs – all of which have a more significant effect on people’s lives.

    So all you birther morons, feel free to fire away at me with your spit balls. I am trembling in my boots.

  • rightlane1111

    I know what I read on the official web site of the Indonesian Government back in 2008. That website is completely changed and there is NO reference to foreigners coming into the country and their length of stay. I know what I read…and yet..now it is gone. I am also looking for the piece that was on Drudge this AM wherein Obama and Keyes get into a debate and Keyes stated that he was born in Kenya and Obama replied…”so what”. DO YOU THINK I CAN FIND IT NOW?

    Talk about Murdoch “hacking” into things…do any of you think Obama & company are capable of the same thing?

  • deuke

    the point is, gathering enough evidence, which proves Obama has not fulfilled the requirements of the Constitution – (though vague only to those who use semantics to obfuscate), becomes another weapon in the arsenal to defeat him and their agenda.

    I agree that this issue is not the end-all, and that the real weapon is the fact that he has lied about so many things that there is really nothing else to say ? but, he lied and goodbye!

    However, for the sake of argument, may I use wiki’s summary; “The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term ["Natural-born citizen] means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,” including any child born “in” the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.”

    I believe that requirement was also 14 years?

    “The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court and lower courts dealing with the question of eligibility for citizenship by birth, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen. “The rationale was that the natural-born-citizen clause was an attempt to allay concerns that foreign aristocrats would immigrate to the United States and use their wealth and influence to impose a monarchy on the new nation.”

    It is quite evident what the Framers meant by “natural-born citizen.” BTW, Alexander Hamilton brought up the issue first.

  • davenj1

    We criticize and denigrate Democrats for bringing junk up like this- stuff like Romney cutting someone’s hair in prep school and such. We all know- birthers and non-birthers alike- that Obama is a serial liar. He padded his resume. He is classic at trying to rewrite history and rules of the language. Its all part and parcel of why he has to go in 2012. But spending time debating whether his father was Kenyan/British national or where Obama was born or even who his father was/is does not solve a single problem in this country. I believe the point of the original posting was to illustrate Obama’s propensity to lie. That it!
    Those who believe otherwise- the birthers, if you will- are a subset of those who stand opposed to Obama. Of course you should have a say- its still a democracy. But be mindful of the fact that you come off looking no better than 9/11 conspiracy theorists and likely believe JFK was not killed by Oswald and that possibly Richard Nixon had Kennedy whacked as part of his master plan. I wish and hope this campaign is not about Obama’s birth certificate…..

  • tnguy

    are working for the democrats?

  • davenj1

    birtherism is a cult in many senses…

  • davenj1

    What is the difference between a WaPo article on Romney shenanigans in prep school and this Breitbart discovery? Does either solve a problem in this country? Does either set forth a policy for getting America back on the right track? Its a diversion.

  • rightlane1111

    this is now off of Drudge.

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/

  • fishgod3

    The man is just a fool He would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit him where the sun don`t shine. No profanity, just the truth from all those who post here.

  • rightlane1111

    understand that Obama is or was lying about a very simple thing.

    There are people that will vote “Republican” just for this very reason. I am not one of them…but based on the way this Administration runs things…we need every vote we can get.

    As far as Breitbart bringing this to light…I hope the ‘DRIPS’ continue right up until election day,

  • davenj1

    and amen. We need to stick a fork in the ass of this issue and turn it over.

  • tnguy

    …is the proper word to describe those who are so fearful of the media to hope that their political party runs from every controversial issue or one that the media will portray as racist. I’d guess cowards is what I would call them.

    By your argument above, it would make no difference if Breitbart.com released evidence that Obama was directly involved in rape or murder. Because that wouldn’t solve any problems.

    Illogical, in many senses…..

    Yet just another hit on an already fracturing republican party.

  • rightlane1111

    again and we find out how the American people were fleeced by Shirley Sherrod and that Obama knew all about this when he was an Illinois Senator. When questioned about it (Obama) he said he did not know the woman. Don’t think so…he helped her.

  • Sapient

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in matters of law, ONLY evidence will suffice.

    And that is PRECISELY the problem here: people with reasonable doubt are being asked to accept an opiion instead of evidence, by many, including Erick. WE are the jury yet allwe hear is taht we are not entitled becasue he doesn’t want to show us.

    Trust me does nto fly in law.

    What a frightening new standard that sets.

  • hunter

    You are acting out of control.
    There is evidence Obama lied to get attention by falsely claiming he was born in Kenya.
    That is not a constitutional crisis.
    And not disagreeing with you is not a tenet of conservatism I am aware of.

  • hunter

    If Obama’s mother was a citizen, Obama is a born citizen period.
    The media failed us all, the democrat party failed America,
    and Obama is a terrible President.
    Make this an Obama problem, not a republican screwup.

  • Gregor

    I believe you have missed the point of the article EE which is that President Obama’s and his supporters are constantly embellishing his accomplishments,

    It is kind of sort of as constantly referring to him as Professor who taught of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago. Point of fact, Obama was a Lecturer and later a Senior Lecturer who taught Constitutional law at this very excellent University.

    You would think that having the opportunity to teach a course at a relatively young age at this institution would be enouh of a distinction for the President, but he allows this position to evolve into being a full tenured professor.

    He must has missed the Commerce Clause when he taught Con Law.

    Greg Warner

  • deuke

    is simply about whether or not he is a natural-born citizen. That is only the steps to discovering what his ultimate agenda is.

    If it is true, as “heartlander” posted: “The Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, very closely tied to Obama in several ways, did a study in early 2006 advocating the elimination of the Constitution?s requirement that the President be a natural-born citizen…” The question does indeed beg for, “Why would they do that?” Surely it must have something to do with the fact that he wouldn’t be eligible, according to the Constitution, to run for POTUS.

    You have to ask, why go to this much trouble to put an illegal president in the WH? Because there is an agenda. What is the agenda?

    Well, for the past 3 yrs. this administration has managed to run faster toward an economic collapse; was it purposeful? He has mismanaged public funds; earmarking toward projects not fully vetted; he has managed to alienate possibly half of the electorate using divisive measures, such as the things said about the Tea Party; comments about racism; class warfare, gay marriage advocacy, which most conservatives have demonstrated (through voting) they are against. etc. He has nearly destroyed the inroads already made with other countries in his amateurish foreign policies; etc, etc. WHY?

    Could it be because he is an enemy of the U.S. or that he is a puppet of a regime that intends to turn over the sovereignty of the U.S. to the UN? Arizona comes to mind. Gun control is another.

    It is not just the economy that Romney or conservatives should be talking about. There is plenty to scrutinize about this man and his compatriots. Constitutional crisis? That is the least of our worries. “Was he lying then or now?” Absolutely right, mspector! It’s time to get to scrutinizin’ — fully. Gather the evidence – and no, we don’t have to take it to the Senate for impeachment proceedings. He would simply be arrested.

  • davenj1

    There is a world of difference between being a rapist/murderer and embellishing one’s resume and lying in a book to buttress yourself. In my list of reasons why I personally believe Obama should go, this issue does not figure very prominently. Personally, I believe his use of the race card would get better coverage- not Obama per se, but his surrogates who do his bidding in this bidding in this area while he sits above the fray in his fog of plausible deniability. I rate this higher. But even more so, I rate his performance, his near-European style socialist outlook, his expansive government attempting to solve every conceivable problem from birth to death, his class warfare and gender sniping and the possibility that another 4 years of Obama will be worse than the first four as infinitely more important. Its not running from an issue. it is realizing a non-issue will not solve a single problem.

  • davenj1

    had to wipe the froth from my mouth

  • PowerToThePeople

    out stupid, you acted as if it was a buffet didn’t you?

    As to the rest of your BS, just a norm for you. But nice try being clever with the name.

    Now move on to your cult moron, you are stinking the place up.

    PS Thanks for all the compliments, but just so you know, I am much older than most in here, you included.

  • PowerToThePeople

    A threat? If so, tough guy no reason to wait that long.

  • davenj1

    Do you feel that a cabal of liberals have installed a puppet named Barack Obama? Everything you list I view as the workings of a man ill-equipped to be President of the United States from the get-go. He is amateurish in every sense of that word and has embarrassed the US on the international stage. Barack Obama is the product of a groupthink mentality of guilt-ridden, white, north shore Chicago liberals. Its as if he was the tabula rasa upon which to write. Its part and parcel of the reason to get rid of him in November. But as far as this being some grand conspiracy, well then I guess the CIA did take down the Twin Towers on 9/11 and Nixon had Kennedy killed.

  • mikwcas

    just wonder who it will be to ask the question, “ahem, mr president, too clear up this matter and remove any ambiguity whatsoever. were you born in HA or Kenyan sir?”

    can’t wait till that question never comes. :)

  • willrho

    I never thought you would say the Constitution does not matter! If he was not born in the USA, he is not an American Citizen. The Federal Law at the time said that the parent must have been in the country for five years and those 5 years must be after the Parents age of 14.
    Which legally means, and what else is germane, that he is not even an American Citizen if he was born in Kenya, because Ann Dunham was only 18 when Barack Obama was born. Ipso Facto, he is an Alien.

  • fightnright

    and the limits of his principles, nothing more.

    If I found that the person I planned to marry might have previously varied accounts of his/her birthplace, it would be a red flag to me regarding their thought process. If I learned that a Republican presidential candidate apparently misled a publicist when providing data ‘on the record’ as important to a politician as his birth country, it would give me pause.

    I’m betting the issue won’t remain on the front page of our national political consciousness much longer than a couple of news cycles, But it should be noted and filed away as further information about Obama’s integrity, as EE suggests. I’m sure the vast majority of conservatives have proven that they can keep on walking while digesting this at the same time, and we’ll move on to more crucial policy issues from here.

  • hunter

    You are making up silly stuff about 5 years after fourteen years of age. My mother was only 18 whenI was born, and I am an American.
    If I had been born while my parents were on vacation in Canada, for example, I would still be an American.
    Now you are merely underscoring Erick’s comment about birther cults.

  • hunter

    What idiocracy and greed expalin better.
    Obama’s team is rapidly becoming the team that cannot shoot straight. Stop helping them by talking kooky

  • hunter

    well said.

  • deuke

    isn’t it? Gather the evidence; solve the mystery. Personally, because the issue came up – way back when, I searched for answers to the question of his eligibility. I’m of the opinion, he’s hiding his history.

    However, I don’t have a clue if a cabal of liberals or the, I’m sorry you’re black, white, north shore Chicagoans, had anything or everything to do with Obama getting into the WH. Most likely they did. But that isn’t the smoking gun, is it?

    The only point I’m trying to make, not unlike mspector above, is the only thing that stands up to scrutiny is evidence of the truth. We may never see all of it. We may never get the chance to see it. But if legitimate questions have been asked, they ought to be answered. We have that right and duty.

    Erick pointed out, as did others, that Obama claimed to be from another country in his book. As mspector pointed out this could be constituted as fraud. He asks, was he lying then or now? For me the answers to these questions provide motive.

    What is the agenda? What is his motive, or of those that have promoted a never-heard-of-less-than 2ys-a senator, to the status of POTUS? Is it as you say, some simple misguided attempt by north shore Chicagoans to assuage the black community? Were they promoting an articulate speaking newcomer with a muslim background; not to mention his name; and not terribly long after one of the most tragic events in our history took place on 9/11 – just to show us how vulnerable and slow to react we are?

    Why? Is the question. The answers ought to lead to an informed decision about what to do about it.

  • hunter

    It is not what they WROTE in the constitution.
    The LAW says that children with one or both parents US citizens, and/or born in the US whether or not parents are citizens or legal or illegal immigrants are citizens period.
    Unless Breitbart has some much stronger stuff to offer, the birther tactic is a non-starter losing effort.
    The character issue is a target rich environment. I prefer that we go after the targets we are likely to achieve. You know, like actually winning this year, plus getting the Senate and keeping the House?

  • Sapient

    I for one care whether we follow the Constitution or not.
    We will either be a nation of laws or a natoin of men.

    I go with a nation of laws, and agree wtih R Roosevelt:

    “No man is above the law, and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man?s permission when we require him to obey it.”

    A pretty basic decision actually.

    BTW: why is it that you don’t care whetehr we follow the Constitution or not?

  • hunter

    I believe it likely has crossed a line that must not be crossed.

  • willrho

    Natural Law: Vattal’s Law of Nations and Natural Law defines the term used by the Constitutional Convention. Both Washington and Franklin had English copies of it and used it. John Jay wrote Washington insisting that the Citizenship of the President should be Natural Born and that requirement was added to Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5. And Minor V Happersett was the first to define Natural Born Citizen as “born in country of citizen parents”. It was referenced 25 times in later Court rulings. That has been the standard for 200 years and everyone knowing constitutional law knows it. Funny that Obama does not. In 2007 all links referring later decisions to MinorVHappersett were removed from Justia.com website that houses the Supreme courts decisions. Nobody noticed until after the election in 2008. Anyway study up a little on what “Natural Born Citizen” means before Blah Blahing.

  • willrho

    NT.

  • Sapient

    Spider

    Ran across this from Teddy Roosevelt…kinda echos your sentiment, and mine.

    “A gentleman told me recently that he doubted I would vote for the Angel Gabriel if found at the head of the Democratic Party, to which I responded that the Angel Gabriel would never be found in such company. Speaking quite dispassionately, and simply as a historian, the Democrats can be trusted invariably to walk in the darkness even when to walk in the light would be manifestly to their advantage.” ?Theodore Roosevelt

  • deuke

    *One, send him packing in November – for we will not get all the answers today. *Two, is to restore the Constitution’s value and power, which means to undo whatever has been done that violates the Constitution; there is a bevy of those things, which I probably don’t need to list here.

    *Three, ENSURE THAT OUR VOTING PROCESSS IS SACROSANCT then send him packing in Nov. Oh, I said that…well it bears repeating;

    SEND HIM BACK TO WHEREVER HE CAME FROM WITH OUR GODSPEED or arrest him if the evidence calls for it.

  • willrho

    Natural Law Vattal’s Law of Nations and Natural Law defines the term used by the Constitutional Convention. Both Washington and Franklin had English copies of it and used it. John Jay wrote Washington insisting that the Citizenship of the President should be Natural Born and that requirement was added to Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5. And Minor V Happersett defined Natural Born Citizen as “born in country of citizen parents”. It was referenced 25 times in later Court rulings. That has been the standard for 200 years and everyone knowing constitutional law knows it. Funny that Obama does not. In 2007 all links referring later decisions to Minor-V-Happersett were removed from Justia.com website that houses the Supreme court’s decisions. Nobody noticed until after the election in 2008. Anyway study up a little on what “Natural Born Citizen” means before saying it has never been defined, it has.

  • johninohio

    Whether he is a US citizen or not, and whether he is a natural born citizen are important for two reasons:

    1) Not being a natural born citizen makes him impeachable in his second term, if he wins, and if conservatives control both houses.

    2) The Constitution must be upheld with respect to this, or the articles that require natural born citizenship will become null and void–not because precedent makes it null and void, but because no one will care enough to enforce it. “You gave Obama a pass, so why disqualify our candidate?” What will we get then? Someone even worse?

  • johnt

    there are a mutitude of opportunities. Facing another four years of this person, this stain on the Republic, the poseurs, the “we are better than they ” crowd of weenies would prefer to flaunt their egotistical but suicidal stance, which I doubt they live by otherwise, & risk 4 more years of this curse.
    The price of pride and self deceit comes high nowdays.

  • WVPatriot

    Friday, March 23, 2012
    INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!

    IMPLICATIVE DISCOVERY: A government document found buried in the online reference section of a Boston Public Library archive bolsters a growing mountain of evidentiary data against Barack Obama?s constitutional eligibility to be president. The document indicates that a consular officer issued a single certificate of statutory citizenship, within the time frame including August 4, 1961, to a child born to a U.S. citizen between July 1st and December 31st, 1961 in the Kenyan region of Africa. The record also reveals that the certificate was the only one issued for this specific type of arrival in the U.S. over a span of more than 18 months, among thousands from other parts of the world.

    By Dan Crosby
    of THE DAILY PEN

    NEW YORK, NY ? A recently discovered rare immigration record found by researchers working on behalf of an ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to hold the office of the U.S. presidency reveals that an American consular officer issued a single Certificate of Citizenship to only one passenger arriving in the U.S. from the Kenyan region of Africa between July and December of 1961.

    The record shows demographic and status classifications for a passenger who was explicitly recorded at the INS Arrival Inspection Station as an individual being born to a U.S. citizen parent arriving from the Kenyan region of Africa between July 1st and December 31st, 1961.

    This information and the dates of its documentation are disturbing given the rare nature of the issuance of certificates of citizenship for children who acquire their citizenship by birth to incoming U.S. citizens in this particular region of Africa.

    Read more:
    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/03/ins-doc-found-us-certificate-issued-to.html

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Look man. Nobody’s saying you’re a birther. We’re just calling for proper vetting of your ideology. Why do you keep trying to shut down anyone who merely questions this?

  • radicalrighty

    Not me. Just playing devil’s advocate to your “strategy” comment.

    What I do endorse is to castigate a US President who lies. He either lied in ’91 or now.

    So, go threaten some other poster, badass-with-a-keyboard.

  • tnguy

    That it is a red herring in that there is no way he’s going to be removed from office. There is probably no document, no testimony, or anything else that could bring it to that point.

    But people who are asserting that we deserve the truth are not necessarily conspiracty theorists, nor is this irrelevant. It’s humerous that some are guessing this is the work of Obama’s campaign in one breath, and then calling those to whom this matters conspiracy theorists with the next.

    It’s illogical in that you said this has nothing to do with the issues. A lot of things have nothing to do with the issues as you see them, but certainly shouldn’t be swept under the rug.

    A broader point from this is fear. Our side has to stop being afraid if they hope to have meaningful victories. For example, it’s extraordinarily relevant to me that Obama attended a virulently racist church, which, at least last I looked, proudly had its hateful doctrine displayed on the church webpage. Yet McCain would not allow any of that to be used. Out of fear. He can pretend it was because that was the honorable thing to do, but if honor were McCain’s primary concern, he would’ve been more statesman-like in dealing with AZ primary opponents and Bush in 2000. Fear of the media is crippling our party.

    I’m for the truth. Whether it hurts or helps either campaign is irrelevant to me. Put the truth out, and in the long run, you win. In my opinion, defeating Obama will be a worthless, pointless victory in the long run unless there is a massive change of heart from the American people, and especially amongst republicans.

  • PowerToThePeople

    are a pure moron and know about as much about the law designating a lawful president as men know everything about women.

    In case your basement dwelling has kept you out of the loop and you do not catch the insult, men know really nothing about women.

  • Viet71

    The Founders weren’t so much concerned about technicalities here, IMO, as they were loyalty to the United States.

    I share mspector’s concerns about citizenship under 8 USC ?1431.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Impeach him? Try him for fraud after he is out of office if the statute of limitations hasn’t run out?

    The big problem I have with the issue is not just birtherism (whether it’s right or wrong or just something the other side can use to it’s advantage like 9/11 truthers) the big problem is the media missing the point of “which lie is the correct one”? It is the constant concealment/deflection of anything wrong this man has done that is the real problem. If the O were Republican he would have never been able to be elected dogcatcher (non-culinary) and likely might have been charged for fraud at some point if he asserted a lie to get ahead/get money etc.

    In my personal opinion if there is any way to go after the journolist insiders who are actively trying to protect the O from the truth harming him while saying anything without reprisal to harm any opposition it should be done. They are the textbook example of the banality of evil.

  • http://teresainfortworth.wordpress.com/ Teresa in Fort Worth, TX

    they will be less likely to pull the lever for him in November.

    They may have voted for him the first time around because in their minds it was “the right thing to do”, or “it’s time”, or they wanted to help “make history” – not important now; the damage has been done.

    These same voters may have a very REAL problem with a candidate who was willing to let a misrepresentation like this go on as long as he did.

    We can’t “prove” that there was a deliberate deception going on, but if we can place enough doubt in peoples’ minds, it could be enough to prevent them from feeling “guilted” into casting a vote for Obama a second time.

    What Erick said is right: “He?s not embarrassed that people will find out he lied about being born in Hawaii; he?s embarrassed they?ll find out he lied about being born in Kenya.”

    It might also be enough to keep a publishing house from touching him AFTER he leaves office…..

  • Viet71

    What would have been his motive? Being born in Kenya would not boost his creds in the Black community or with the Leftists here. Far better to say (write) that his parents gave him life because the were embroiled in the civil rights movement. That would have played very well, both Left and Right, in 1991.

    People lie when they have a motive to lie. People tell the truth when nothing else matters. Human nature.

  • Agelaius

    I think we make a mistake by focusing on the truth of whether Obama was born in the United States or overseas. Truth doesn’t matter; winning does. People will believe almost anything if repeated often enough, and if it reinforces one’s group identity or solidarity. So this whole thing is a useful political tool. If sufficient people can be made to question Obama’s citizenship, it may be possible to actually drive him from office. It may make the difference in what might be a close election. What needs to happen is that Romney probably can’t come right out and claim that Obama wasn’t born in the US. But his surrogates can, and Republican leaders can hedge their comments and say “I have every reason to think…” which actually means he might be foreign born. GOP secretaries of states can demand birth certificates or even work to engineer ballot challenges, like the courageous Sec of State in Arizona.

    The strategy should be to demand birth certificates, dispute authenticity, sue, or simply refuse to allow him on the ballot. Make sure it is a theme that runs right through the election, even if the leadership can disavow it. And convince the general public not that Obama was born outside the US, but that the question of whether or not he was is a valid controversy – after all, we just want to clarify the controversy. That’s reasonable enough. Drive up the sense that Obama is foreign, not one of us, somehow the product of a tainted union. We all know it will work. Truth? I don’t actually care if he was born in Hawaii or not. Winning matters. Politics ain’t beanball. We can injure Obama’s legitimacy this way, undermine his right to hold office even before he loses it. If we advance the cause of controlling all three branches of government, the tools we use are secondary, because we will be able to make the fundamental changes to the United States we seek and we will be able to make them permanent.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    So what?

    Are you so far removed from reality that you think he can be impeached? Not happening. At all.

    We need to beat the left on the issues. Obama’s birth certificate is NOT an issue that is destroying the nation. His ill conceived policies are exactly what is doing that and those policies – and him – are what are needed to be repudiated in November.

    You’re wasting your time, and you’re wasting Redstate’s time and bandwidth. Go over to Alex Jones site, you’ll be right at home.

  • davenj1

    we send him packing in November.

  • learsi

    is neither here nor there. It’s what you know that counts, and you don’t know that Obama has met the requirements set forth in Article II.

    Your choice of the words ‘cult of birtherism’ also suggests that somehow birthers are an irrational monolithic group. The truth is they are quite a diverse bunch approaching diverse issues from multiple angles.

    Many birthers have done exceptional investigative work. Have done the thankless gumshoe work that should have been carried out by political elite and paid media. You know, those who aren’t willing to get in the trenches but opt for casting unsupported aspersions smugly from on high.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    The only diversity in that group is that on rare occasion you’ll find one with a low double digit IQ as opposed to vast majority of single digit wonders.

    You can go back to info-wars now.

  • learsi

    How is that? I argue, the cult we need to concern ourselves with is the cult of personality that sees some pixeled wonder of a cyberspace manipulated pdf at the White House website and says, Lookee here! Proof postive.”

  • funwithknives

    my family tree on one of the dot.com sites , and low-and-behold what do you think I found?

    I’m:
    1/164th ‘neandrethal’
    1/16,400th ‘homo erectus’
    1/1,164,000,000th ‘amoeba’

    …and I thought Irish-Dutch was all it wrote……..

    Can I be a minority now?

  • dannamay

    Here’s my reason why we aren’t seeing his college records. I believe Mr. Obama registered as a foreign student to obtain certain scholarships only available to foreign students.

  • runner12

    kind of red herring and no big deal are flat out wrong. Those who are trying to claim it as a victory for the birther movement are equally as wrong, and they are missing the point of the Breitbart story.

    The point, as EE has stated above, is that Obama has frequently lied about his past life, accomplishments, family, etc. in order to create whatever narrative he wanted to. This was to boost his prominence in Leftist political circles and to further is own ambition. Think a la Elizabeth Warren.

    Have any of those who subscribe to the birther movement stopped and considered that this may be the answer to all of the mysterious and suspicious behavior by Obama and Co. and that it may have nothing to do sith where he was born? All of the weird behavior was not to cover up that he was not a citizen. It was to prevent Obama from being exposed as a pathological liar about his past.

    His birth place may not be fiction, but the biography he has created for himself is.

  • runner12

    conspiracy theorists, but Breitbart was right in putting the story out there. Truth should never be suppressed for political expediency. They were abundantly clear in their reporting that this is not about the birther issue.

    Perhaps we can use this article to persuade those who may lean towards birtherism towards a more rational explanation. One has to admit that the Obama Admin. has been very secretive about Obama’s past. I contend that this is because it chock full of lies and exaggerations that Obama made about himself to further his ambition. This man’s resume has probably been one long fib after another.

    Maybe we can convince a few people that the birth-thing most likely was never the issue and that by hanging onto it they are missing out on the truth.

  • celador2

    I don’t like frauds. They are so out of whack I feel duped. He sold exotic themed books to cool folks for 16 years as a Kenyan-Indonesian-American, a guy in conflict and searching. I feel protective to the consumers who might have an emotional investment with the writer.

    Late 1980s until 2007 Mr Barack Obama writer, professional, may have cultivated a persona that billed himself as Kenyan -Idonesian American as booklet says 1991-2007.

    Its fraud. He may have seen and experienced himself as foreign at that time also.

    But, it would be criminal fraud to seek aid or preferences knowing he was not a legal foreigner. Foreign students usually pay higher tuitions than residents of US. Being instate is cheapest rate of all. Occidental,, Columbia and Harvard would know how he applied but they are not talking.

    I am curious to learn more about this persona and how far he went with it.

    Where is Obama now?

    cel

  • johnt

    You do not know, you can’t know, what is true or false with the filth in the WH. I doubt you can measure I Q, or apply it to political opinion in any case.
    Done, I hope.

  • Bill S

    Bye, cultist.

  • westcoastpatriette

    The extensive effort Obama has gone to to hide the truth is what keeps drawing so many to want to know what he is hiding and why.

    Chances are, he has weaved a web of deceit his entire life — which causes him to continually need to cover his tracks even if it is just to hide insignificant fibs. However, most people do not spend millions to cover up insignificant fibs. Someday, the truth will be known but it is very unsettling to think he has gotten away with this much deceit for this long.

  • christopher770

    Yes….this is shamefull and makes me sick. But at this point in the game it will not carry any water nor get him out of the white house faster than our upcoming election. What I do hope and expect will happen is the truth will be finally exposed TO ALL and thereby exposing the incredible disservice and harm the biased media has caused this country. Yes, I know to check facts, but the vast majority of Americans believe what they see and hear on the news. If its in the news is must be true.

  • aesthete

    I sent you an email.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    .

  • gekster

    You do any other stand-up. :)

  • renny

    The zero is born in Kenya to his publishers who want to push multiculturalism to boost an unknown writer;

    he us Barry Sotoero at Occidental, prob, to get foreign student status and loans;

    he is BarackA in Chicago as an organizer to “up” his Muslim-y background;

    he is Barack HUSSEIN Obama when he runs for president to emphasize his BLACK bonafides to PC Dems., as he is mixed race;

    and to me he is the little o in lower case because he has been a worthless, bumbling, inefficient, oppositional, divisive, angry, anti-American, and anti-traditional lump of a president who has created great misery, joblessness, and apathy throughout the nation, and no one should get recognizes with capitals for his/her name for those traits.

  • renny

    I got rapped by Moe as a moderator. “Now, renny,…”

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We’ve been banning birthers all day. This thread is filled with corpses.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Go back to infowars.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Enough said.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Go back to your cave, troll.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You know how pathetic you are? Barry spells better than you do.

    Get educated.

  • westcoastpatriette

    duck everybody! :)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Go pester some other website, kid.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We’ve been slow at banning retarded birthers today, and for that I apologize.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    ..

  • acat

    Is that 6 or 7 G’byes ?

    Mew

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Two I G’byed but then deleted because the users were already banned silently.

  • acat

    Mew

  • celador2

    Has the White House press secreary responded?
    If anyone in media wants a captive audience it would be the reporter who asked Batack Obama why the literary listing biography for his books ran with ‘born in Kenya’ 1991-2007.

    Will he admit how that long run of Kenyan birth survived until he was a candidate for president?

    If he blames another, whom can he blame? He was alone and had no support staff 1991. He did his own writing and calling in 1991.

  • Bill S

    And streiff took down several early today. This was the biggest trollpaper post we’ve had in ages.

  • acat

    Thanks to the Moderators for a much-needed cleanup.

    Mew

  • celador2

    I thought Barack Obama was a guy in over his head, weak and untried , amoral and self centered. But he had a drive for the spot light and center that landed him a presidency. He can not govern but prefers to campaign to a crowd including TV, radio and sports shows. He is not comfortable one on one even with top teir generals and advisors on economy. Creepy.

    I did not expect Obama’s literary booklet expose promoting the President as Kenyan born for 16 years. That is extraordinary!

    It points to behaviors that could be trouble because its based on deceit. A lie and more lies lay ahead.

    Cel.

  • wilgolden

    nt

  • celador2

    That should be interesting for Eliz Warren and Barack Obama campaigning MA for their elections to an adoring crowd and press. A lot of residue in the air around both.

    Sen Scott Brown and supporters, please keep up the heat and have a good time with that visit!

    What will be the headline of an Obama-Warren campaign stop?

    Cel

  • wilgolden

    the theme from “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly” running through my head?

  • David123

    nt

  • http://stevemaley.com Steve Maley

    ———–

  • texasref

    nt

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    The went from negative to positive images. I had to get a copy of my B.C. for work and it’s still printed as a negative. I think they killed half a toner cartridge printing that thing.

  • citizenkh

    that I cannot ban birthers here. I’ve had so much fun defriending people of FB and blocking them on Twitter over the last two days.

  • citizenkh

    in Blackstone since it was the most widely used reference of law by ALL of the founding fathers.

    But hey you take pointers from the drunk driving specialist attorney from NJ or the dentist from CA if you like. As for me I took advice from one who has 100% win rate at SCOTUS.

  • citizenkh

    which is based in Norway.

  • Uma Richie

    At least we know their failure to address autobiographical license is not for lack of investigative skills:
    “Country music legend Loretta Lynn is three years older than she has led people to believe, an age change that undermines the story she told of being married at 13 in ‘Coal Miner’s Daughter,’ documents obtained by The Associated Press show.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/story/2012-05-18/loretta-lynn/55068814/1
    Ms. Lynn’s humility and devotion to her late husband made Teri Gross sound like a pompous idiot in an NPR interview in 2010. I guess she had it coming.

  • gekster

    One (supposed) lie by a contry music singer is MUCH more important that the MANY lies of this President.
    It’s good to see they have thier priorities correct.

  • SoFiMil

    David123 beat me to it.

    Bellowed when I read this this afternoon. Posting at work is a no-no, and I didn’t get away during lunch where I could post on my smart phone.

  • checkmate2012

    ? doing reporting Columbia journalism grads won?t do. And doing it quite well.”

    Does it mean they overstepped their territorial bounds? That they don’t belong in journalism? Just curious and don’t get it.

    The truth is Obama has a victim mentality thus his so called fair policies for all, even for his Kenyan family in his speech today, (per http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-cites-kenyan-family-members-pledge-economic-growth-can-t-just-be-lucky-few):

    “President Barack Obama invoked his poor family members in Kenya as a reason why ?economic growth can?t just be for the lucky few at the top, it?s got to be broad-based, for everybody.?

    It’d be nice if he just send them a check, ya know, being one of the 1%, to help his poor starving family.

  • checkmate2012

    How many millions is DOJ spending on this…Rangel must be pissed as Clements up staged him!

  • 6eorge Jetson

    and I cannot lie…

  • Dave_A

    ntxt

  • Dave_A

    Issues a laser-printed document similar to the original short-form Obama released in the campaign.

    For BOTH the short-form and long-form.

    The short-form is simply a laser-printout on ‘official’ paper, with parent’s names, city & date of birth, and a seal/stamp from the register of deeds (I had used one of these to join the Army, as my original field required a clearance and proof of citizenship)…

    The WI long-form contains all the original info (Doc’s name, hospital, etc) – but it’s still a laserprint document…

    While some states still print photocopies or from fiche… Those days are numbered, as digital databases quickly replace old-style imaging-based records systems…

    In the end, the obvious conclusion (considering that Obama has lied about his resume all his life, puffing himself up to get into jobs he’s not qualified for)…

    Is that he lied about being Kenyan to make himself more interesting.

  • checkmate2012

    it was a weird statement…

  • Dave_A

    Presently requires EITHER birth on US Soil (Hawaii) -OR- birth to ONE American parent.

    It doesn’t matter if one of your parents is an illegal immigrant and the other is an Al Queda terrorist, and you only spend 1 day on US soil as a newborn baby – if you are born on US Soil you are a ‘natural born’ citizen.

    Now, back in the 60s, the law with regard to age and residency was different – and it was this technicality (that the law was written to prevent the children of teenage mothers from acquiring natural-birth by blood) that the original Birth-er garbage used as their justification.

    What made it rediculous, was that in 1961 jet air-travel was new, and it took a very long & circuitous journey to even GET TO Kenya – not something a near-term pregnant woman would undertake, especially in that day and age…

    In order for birtherisim to be viable, Mama Obama would have had to fly to Kenya close to her delivery date (since she was not living there while pregnant – it would have had to be a visit), on a series of jet and non-jet airliners with many layovers – knowing that she might end up giving birth in an African hospital with substandard medical care compared to what her mother (grandma O) could afford back in HI.

    She would have likely had to pay for it all herself, as it’s unlikely that Banker Grandma would have paid for her daughter to fly to Kenya & risk the chance of her grandson being born in an African hospital….

    All of this points to the extreme illogic of the Birther movement…

  • Common_Cents

    I was kinda threatened by mentioning that. LOL. that was anti birther but how was that different then?

    Is there a program to keep up around here? ;)

    The correct answer to this whole thing is, who really knows? There is no way I’ll vouch for obama. He may be born here, he may not have been. I’ll let the facts come out and others pursue it. It doesnt have to be a mainstream push but let various other groups handle it.

    Obama is a fraud milli vanilli teleprompter president in many ways. I think Amierica will be “shocked” at what comes out in the next decade or two ;)

  • kingfish2

    The birthing issue is important but it’s not really the issue. It’s the ideology of this guy that is crippling Main Street not his legality to be the President. The only winners have been Investment Banking since this guy’s taken office. I don’t believe the poor are bank rolling this guy; it?s big business and the wealthy that desire this kind of guy in control of the funds and funding. Like it or not for whatever it?s worth, this guy is the President, we elected him regardless of the sham of a photo-shopped birth certificate. The question remains are we willing to choose another, someone different? Someone who is more like what HE IS NOT? Listen to his mouth, if you can stand his entry-level manner of talking down to you, but more than that, the question remains, which devil do you prefer to bed with? Look who he appoints to positions of power. We know by name who this President appoints to the goon squad of stupidity. More importantly, I certainly would like to know who Romney would choose before we go to the polls, because it?s the goon squads who do the damage to America, the professors of higher education, who?ve never held an honest job their entire lives, not all but the majority. But I can be humble, don?t take my word for it, I’m only a Clerk in a Super Market with a High School Education who happened to con my way fair and square to get my diploma. Mark my words, by the end of the day November 2nd 2012 we either reelect the Commander and Chief and things get worse… or… we come together and choose a different direction for the country, but don?t think this all happens by splitting your vote, that?s how John Kennedy became a US Senator in the 50s. That?s what Ross Perot and the Ralph Nader?s duty was in the last century. We either get behind one man to beat this guy or we CAVE in the name of Chicago Politics as usual!!!!!.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

  • byrrni

    Yes, his mother was American but his father was not. That makes him ineligible.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    ,

  • gekster

    Sheriff Joe endorsed Perry, and you tried to tie the birther issue to Perry, when Perry was not a birther, and had no control over who could endorse him.
    That being pointed out to you over and over didn’t stop you.
    You kept up with the Perry is a birther issue because Joe endorsed him and Perry didn’t go on national tv and condem him.
    That’s it pretty much in a nutshell.

  • circlegranch

    Conservative persons of influence in the media are apparently going to join the chorus of those in the complex that believe it really doesn’t matter if our president is forced to tell the truth. Whether its Beck, Hannity, or Limbaugh, nobody in high places wants a thing to do w/ the Kenya question. We’re told it doesn’t matter; they prefer the rest of us keep quiet about it, too, so as not to irritate the GOP and the cable networks. Let’s focus, instead, on character issues. Is there a difference? Does the First Amendment matter anymore? Can we, as citizens and taxpayers, ask our own questions and be able to express them without being shut down by one media source or another? Some would argue the media is the problem here in the first place and certainly not the solution to finding out necessary truths about our leadership.

    “Birther” is a term of insult applied to anyone that has dared to ask some basic, simple questions. Hillary Clinton was the premier ‘birther’ and now w/ the revelation of this brochure, one would think those simply asking some questions would get a little more respect, but that’s not the case. Anyone that questions anything about this Administration is at best dismissed and laughed at, and at worst, maligned and targeted. Those that get involved annd hold elected officials accountable are ‘bitter clingers’, have a habit of getting all ‘wee-wee’d up’, and if we gather in a park to peacefully protest, we’re ‘teabaggers, racists and Nazi’s”.

    We were a nation of laws before we elected people that gave themselves enough power to assume we, the people, are here to serve them instead of the opposite.

    The line is drawn now–one can either claim origin of birth, full disclosure about possible dual citizenship in Indonesia, college applications, financing for college, transcripts, etc., don’t matter, or, one can be of the opinion that full disclosure is required. We know via the Fast and Furious debacle that those that seek truth and transparency are stalled and ignored. Is that consistent in a nation governed by laws? Is it acceptable for separate standards to be applied for govt. officials than those for private citizens paying the tab?

    Some can claim none of this matters and others can fight to the bitter end in defense of the Constitution and say that it does matter. The only way to inform the voting public about all the questions, missing information, and known lies is for mega-wealthy people like Trump to hire the best film makers money can buy and put together the facts, the questions, the loose ends into a TV series. They would then need to put up more money than any of the 3 major networks could possibly turn down and make sure it is aired in early fall.

    Every ‘big’ in conservative talk radio this week has been commenting on the number of emails they’re getting from people that have never heard of Rev. Wright or didn’t know about some of the astonishing quotes from “Dreams from My Father”. Ignorance is rampant, but its hardly bliss. The survival of the country hangs in the balance.

    A major conservative media blitz must occur if the bits and pieces of truth are to be revealed and the subsequent questions asked by voters. The GOP candidate has declared he wants nothing to do with it and by bowing immediately to Axelrod’s request to reject any mention of Wright, the precedent is now set. When they want to weaken and diminish our candidate, they know how to go about it. Whatever the issue coming up between now and Nov, they will somehow distract and link it to racism or the appearance of a personal attack, and they now understand how easily the opposing team will capitulate.

    The average person commenting here and elsewhere and calling into talk radio shows or knocking on doors in their neighborhoods aren’t getting the job done. If the truth still matters; if we are a nation of laws and our govt is still constrained by our Constitution, then the people with power, influence and money need to step up and find a way to reach more people than are hearing us now. The Left has done it. They own the majority of media, the education system and the entertainment industry. Their message goes out 24/7 either on the news, through the lyrics of a song or by late night comedians. People like Allen West that are bold about telling the truth, fearless in the questions asked and are willing to still stand up for the Constitution need alot of soldiers to join the effort.

    Unless, of course, it doesn’t matter.

  • PowerToThePeople

    but you are still full of crap, we are not interested in your ignorant cult thought process, and instead of forcing the mods to ban you why do you not do the adult thing and remove yourself over to info wars where you and other tin foil like minded people can conspire together.

    You are an embarrassment to us all.

  • bbjaylive

    But as a generral observation, why do birther nuts talk like they’re one of the Founding Fathers who is about to write “Da CONSTA-TOO-SHUN”?

    Like Paulbots, they’re so willing to cloak themselves in the document they claim to love to excuse their ignorance of that document and their stupidity.

  • texashistorian

    and is the number 1 reason RS is absolutely right to clamp down on the birther issue. With so much out there to be concerned about this is just going down a rathole.

    Erick did a good thing writing about the REAL STORY which is not where Obama was born but rather the constant invention/reinvention/evolution of a cynical leftist politician who is willing to say or be anything that the moment requires.

    It’s a shame that its degenerated into the birther thing again which is nothing but a distraction, and causes the legitimate questions Erick and others are asking about the literary blurb and Kenya to get lost in the noise.

    We need to work on the issues and getting rid of the man in November. We have House members that need to be spanked, and a Senate to take back, all things which the intellectual energy and time spent whaling away at a non-issue distracts from.

  • donmyrick

    we are left with crippled logic. Why use the Left’s “birther” epithet to stop all thought, when there are legitimate unanswered questions about Obama’s background and past?

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    The ONLY “legitimate concerns” between now and the day Obama leaves office are the economy and his policies that are destroying it and his foreign policy.

    Anything else is a distraction that helps him. It also makes anybody – including you – who thinks his birthcert or his college transcripts or anything else – look like a completely out of touch idiot.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    if Obama holds a press conference and hands out his Kenyan birth certificate – or one from Mars – to the assembled press corpse [sic] and says “Ha ha, fooled you.”

    Gonna impeach him? Think the Ds in the Senate will vote to impeach? Think you could even get it through the House?

    It’s not that it doesn’t “matter”. It’s an exercise in total stupidity that will only serve to increase Obama’s “victim status” and would likely give him a landslide victory in November.

  • bbjaylive

    You see, that’s your problem..

    You think that extremist nutjobs should be embraced by conservatives, because you nutjobs have stained the conservative brand so much, that leftists are all too happy to stroke both groups with the same “birther” brush.

    Let me be clear.

    Birthers aren’t welcome and they will never be welcome.

  • johninohio

    Don’t take morons like power to the perps seriously. They have their own axes to grind, and they will never admit what they are. But be assured, they think they’ll benefit from 4 more years of Obama’s fascistic administration. If this was George Bush we were talking about, the Constitution would suddenly become the holy writ of the Left.

  • johninohio

    between ‘citizen’ and ‘natural born citizen’ , or what the Constitution says about the requirements for candidates to the office of President of the US.

  • johninohio

    between ?citizen? and ?natural born citizen? , or what the Constitution says about the requirements for candidates to the office of President of the US.

  • lorenc

    “Our own Jeff Emanuel also pointed out a 2004 Associated Press article…Even the Associated Press picked it up and I cannot find anywhere suggesting Barack Obama tried to have the AP correct its reporting.”

    What’s been linked to is not the original AP wire story; it’s the version of an AP story that was run in a Kenyan newspaper in 2004.

    A Lexis search of articles at the time produces a number of other newspapers that ran that same AP story about Obama, and NONE of them refer to him as “Kenyan-born.” Except for that one from Kenya. If you don’t believe me, check Lexis or some other news aggregator for yourself; “Kenyan-born” was an addition by the Kenyan paper, not part of the original AP story.

    So is the suggestion that Obama should have been cognizant of what an African newspaper 10,000 miles away wrote about him, and that he should have contacted them to request a correction?

  • johnt

    hackneyed. I suggest you refer to your book on the cliche and how to use it without appearing slow of wit. Perhaps in your vulgarity you think it’s OK to call people stupid who have offered no offense, but at least you got a few words in before collapse.
    However I can’t forgive you for giving poor Becker courage to emerge from his hole and show that he, like you, suffers from delusions of mediocrity, a level you both can only hope for.
    I pondered about wasting my time on this so make it good, get help from friends and family, and try for multi-word sentences.
    Otherwise someone might call you “stupid”, not nice to do.
    Hi Becker.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Make sure you wipe off your mom’s laptop screen.

    You really are pathetic. Maybe you’re a garfield sockpuppet.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Never got it. And I checked spam.

    mbecker908 at gmail dot com

  • Viet71

    I read about last year, the left border of what you display is highly suspicious and makes no sense if the B.C. is original.

    My take: Obama has lied about every meaningful aspect of his life, for reasons not clear.

    One doesn’t have to be a Birther to question every aspect of his purported paper trail, of which little has been made public.

  • aesthete

    I forgot to include the “908″. I just sent the email, but I probably won’t respond to it until after 6 pm.

  • johnt

    Do you even know who your mother is?
    Keep the posts short and use worn out words like “pathetic”, sure fire stuff for the mindless. How do you like the above heading? Familiar? Get back to the sewer Becker, I’m done.

  • gekster

    As far as slow witted and stupid,, who cares.
    Oh, wait. It appears you have a problem with it.

    I said it was funny, and asked if you do stand-up.
    How did you get that rant you got from that little bit.

    What does that make you such that a person as slow witted and stupid as me got under your skin with the brief set of words I opined.

    Can we expect more comedy from you.
    Call Jay Leno.
    He’s always looking for a good comic.

    Never mind.
    He’s looking for ‘good’ comics.

  • Dave_A

    There are only 2 types of citizen mentioned in the Constitution:

    Those who are natural-born

    And those who must be ‘naturalized’.

    There is no 3rd category of ‘non-natural, non-naturalized’ citizen.

    Congress is given the authority to determine who fits into which category, via a ‘uniform rule of naturalization’.

    Anyone born on US soil is a natural-born citizen.

    Those who immigrate to the US and become citizens by oath-of-allegiance are ‘Naturalized’.

    Parentage is not a requirement for natural-born status – it is merely one of two ways to obtain it (and only one US parent is required, at present).

  • Dave_A

    Period.

    That’s what the uniform-rule of naturalization stuff in the Constitution is about…

    Determining who qualifies for natural-born citizenship, who must be naturalized, and who is NOT a citizen.

    Obama, by merit of having been born in HI, is a natural-born citizen – as is John McCain by merit of having at least one American parent – as opposed to Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is a naturalized citizen….

    Birth kooks like to come up with their own citizenship standards, completely separate of the Constitution – which is how we get both the claim that McCain was NOT a citizen because he was born on ‘foreign soil’ (Despite both parents being American, and the place-of-birth being a US military installation) and Obama NOT being a citizen because although born on US soil both parents were not citizens…

    Can’t have it both ways – and in this case, both groups are wrong.

  • acat

    with thousands of other birth certificates, then turned the whole thing into microfiche, then turned the microfiche into .pdf format files…… it could be perfectly legit – and would mean that the clerk doing the microfiche work was lazy and didn’t press down very hard when scanning.

    In short, whether he’s legit or not …. tough to prove, and really don’t matter.

    Getting rid of him .. matters greatly.

    Shortest route to that is electing Romney, with enough Conservatives in the Congress to keep him honest.

    Mew

  • 6eorge Jetson

    A: When you see his lips moving

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  • celador2

    Loretta Lynn got vetted with front page coverage and we learn she is 80 years old not 77.

    She is not a far left Hollywood type hence the distraction from Obama and Warren who face serious charges conerning their enhanced and embellished biographies.

    The press and DNC will do anything to change the subject from the exonomy and incumbent Obama’s relationship to it.

  • msherf

    Your article Friday re Obama’s Kenyan citizenship was excellent. There is something, though, that should not be overlooked. I have read earlier that Obama claimed to be Indonesian to gain enrollment at Columbia. Maybe he used Kenya. The point is: If he gained student aid, loans, awards, etc., because he claimed he was a foreign student then that should be a big, big deal in the media but is not. It proves he is a thief in addition to a liar. Maybe this is why no one has seen the Columbia transcripts.

    Obama, as you pointed out this week, is “narcissist-in-chief.” I think he preens. Maybe the emperor is shedding some clothes.

  • rightlane1111

    I am not a believer in his birth in Kenya…however…today on Drudge…Arizona wants proof of his birth…and what does Hawaii do…they say they want more “proof” that they need it or perhaps “standing”…in order that Arizona can keep him on/off the ballot.

    I didn’t say this…this is the State of Arizona. I can understand…but do not agree with the cultist’s view that after $2 million spent in not addressing the subject and roadblocks thrown in the path of a definitive answer…people ask “why”.

    For all I know…it could be Obama doing it all to make everyone look stupid. However…his plan might backfire and the reason is…a block of voters do believe he is not American…and I personally will take any vote against Obama I can get…no matter where because this is our last chance.

  • http://abo.dr-rjp.com DrRJP

    Basically, we have a foreign-born imposter in the White House who has refused to provide a single shred of valid, concrete evidence of his identity, background, birthplace, while his and fellow collaborators carry out a bloodless coup.

    And you thought there was just a Presidential election in November 2008?

    Remember the rumor, allegedly circulated anonymously via email, that “Obama was a secret Muslim who is part of an Islamic plot to overthrow the US from within.”

    The “rumor” about the Islamic plot is true – it is in the Muslim Brotherhood’s Explanatory Memorandum for North America on how they will destroy the West’s despicable house from within.”

    The declaration of war that went unnoticed was the Muslim Brotherhood?s leader endorsing an anti-American jihad with a view virtually identical to al-Qaida?s ideology.

    And about Obama being a Muslim, we have Jeremiah Wright confirming to Ed Klein that he made it possible for Obama to become a “Christian” without having to renounce Islam.

    and without getting a fatwa put on him for being an apostate.

    Maybe people can now put 2 and 2 together and see why he has welcomed the Muslim Brotherhood with open arms into his government, putting lots of operatives in high positions and inviting them all into the White House as his “honored guests.”

    He sent them $1.5 billion of our money while we are sinking in debt. Is this his idea of “fair?” Giving money to our enemies?

    For thirty years, this Ailinsky-trained imposter has been working hand-in-glove with the most extreme radicals America has to offer. He has had the help of Marxists, Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, and anyone else who harbors a hatred for America, capitalism, and Judeo-Christian values.

    This has nothing to do with “Birtherism.” This is called, “Defending America, Upholding the Rule of Law. Preserving and protecting the Constitution.”

    We are out to save America from its enemies, both foreign and domestic, and the only way to do that is to get at the truth.

    It begins by finding out who is the man behind the mask of Barack Hussein Obama II.