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Dear Governors, Rick Perry Joins Governors Scott, Jindal, and Haley Showing You The Way

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  July 9th, 2012 at 10:26 AM  | 

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Rick Perry is joining Governors Nikki Haley, Rick Scott, and Bobby Jindal in leading the way for other governors in the United States, some of whom — even Republicans, are starting to get cold feet on the issue of exchanges and medicaid.

Rick Perry is drawing a line in the sand and giving Washington a “hell no.”

Under Governor Perry, Texas will not create state healthcare exchanges and will not expand medicaid. He is joining Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina.

According to his statement,

If anyone was in doubt, we in Texas have no intention to implement so-called state exchanges or to expand Medicaid under Obamacare, I will not be party to socializing healthcare and bankrupting my state in direct contradiction to our Constitution and our founding principles of limited government.

God bless Texas.

And may I point out that RedState supported Rick Scott, Nikki Haley, Bobb Jindal, and Rick Perry for their elections. Elections matter.

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  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    *sigh*

  • DerKrieger

    …for front page articles about federalism soon?

    /steps off soapbox

  • Paul Seale

    /endorse

  • APA Guy

    You know, the General Assembly that passed Right to Work? And we will have Mike Pence in the governor’s mansion after Daniels.

    So yeah…no worries here in Indiana about the state exchanges/Medicaid expansion. Obamacare is patently unpopular among the electorate here…so much so that Joe Donnelly is running like a scared rabbit from his vote for the health care monstrosity.

    For reference:

    http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=348581

  • acat

    Between going squishy on abortion (hat tip Scope) and this, I think he’s cooked his career.

    Mew

  • westcoastpatriette

    Governors have a duty to protect their citizens from unconstitutional legislation — no matter what the Supreme Court rules.

  • angelatoft

    Rick Perry continues to lead the fight. Wish he was going to be our next President, but I can wait until 2016.

  • earlgrey

    promised to elminate the gas tax in Indiana?

    Any feel on the state of the race for Senate; mourdock vs. donnely. There was some grumbling about him on the editorial page of the paper when I was visiting.

  • ctpsb

    Continuing to work for Ted Cruz in the primary as Ted’s fully 100% committed to repealing Obamacare and hopefully adding to Texas’ efforts to repeal this monstrosity!

  • APA Guy

    Yeah, yeah…an antiquated poll showed Mourdoch tied with Donnelly a few months back, but my sources inside the Indiana Democrat Party tell me Dems aren’t pouring money in for this one as though it really was tied.

    Both polls, conducted in March and May of this year, have 20-30% undecided rations, and they were conducted before the SCOTUS Obamacare ruling was handed down. Factor in the undecided voters and sample correctly and you would see a large Mourdock margin.

    One thing more:

    The voters of this state are not happy with the notion that they will be forced to buy health insurance or pay new taxes…and they blame Obama and anyone who gave us this horrible law. Joe Donnelly voted for both Obamacare AND the failed stimulus. Mourdoch will be well-funded to hammer Donnelly on these issues statewide.

    We’ll deliver Indiana in a big way…bank on it.

  • earlgrey

    I look forward to a Mourdock win. I had always expected Pence to win. I actually called his local office when Bayh retired to tell him to run for Senate. They were very nice considering I am from out of state. My mom is convinced that Donnely might win. She has a personal connection with him, and actually considered voting for him until he made that stupid comment about the gas tax. She called b. s. on that.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Many of us backed Rick Perry if you recall.

    We got attacked for it. Hard.

  • runner12

    My governor had better jump on this bandwagon very quickly or she will hear from her constituents soon.

    Everyone here is watching her closely after she attempted to accept money earlier in the year to set up exchanges (note: when the public got wind of it, she dropped those plans rather quickly).

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I mean, look at the recent rash of support on the right for authoritarian, extraconstitutional judicial supremacy re: Obamacare.

  • http://teresainfortworth.wordpress.com/ Teresa in Fort Worth, TX

    You’d think this administration would have learned this by now.

    And anyone currently living in Texas who has a problem with this is free to move to a state that does offer a state health exchange.

    I’ll volunteer to help them pack…..

  • windwaker24

    So proud of him. If the Federal Government starts to get more pushy, I hope Texas starts withholding Tax money, making them beg for a change. After all, it’s their money. Someone on Twitter suggested if Texas did a FICA strike, the Federal Government would be reeling in pain.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    It takes courage and conservative convictions.

    She has neither.

  • 1bunny

    to ask her to join the other Republican governors in renouncing Health Exchanges. Everyone should contact their governors and urge them to say NO!

    Governor Mary Fallin:
    E-mail: info@gov.ok.gov
    (405) 521-2342

  • porkandcheese

    McDonnell’s goose is cooked EIEIO. As for endorsements, RedState supported Perry for governor, but they ruined his chances for president. Now we’re stuck with Romney. Thanks for that.

  • aesthete

    pertaining to the federal government’s relationship with states. I don’t see how she’ll be very different this time around.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    She didn’t support SB1070 through the legislative process and nobody knew if she’d sign or veto it when she walked on the stage with a pen in hand. Signing it was an act of political desperation that served her well because she’d have lost the primary without it.

    She steadfastly refuses to cut education spending and is generally a spineless weasel.

    Can’t wait for 2014. Brewer’s gone, McCain’s gone.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    to actually believe that this comment you just posted is accurate in any way whatsoever?

  • spandrel

    But exchanges are essentially market places – a place where consumers can compare standard policies head to head on price and features. Sort of like Expedia for private health insurance.

    Of course Expedia is for profit, so one wonders why HIXs aren’t common already – a few states have set them up (including Texas, pre Bush) but no private companies – and that’s because health insurers don’t want to compete on price, they want to compete on picking healthy customers. What’s new here is that insurers will have to provide at least one product, an HSA + High Deductible Policy, through the exchange (ie, compete on price).

    So – why is it such a bad thing for consumers that Perry would rather the feds step in and do it than have Texas do it itself? I would think that Texas would do a better job than the feds.

  • APA Guy

    2008 was a mirage…like The Who sang, we won’t get fooled again :)

  • Bill S

    After all, it’s not like RS literally hosted the beginning of his campaign or anything.

  • APA Guy

    Enough said.

  • APA Guy

    Might want to re-think your sentiment just a tad.

  • acat

    Mew

  • aesthete

    I wouldn’t call that un-Constitutional (and to be fair, neither did you), and it’s certainly in keeping with implied powers doctrine and Common Law jurisprudence.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Chief Justice Marshall took it on himself to rewrite the law to contain a tax, er. Judicial Review.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    My first choice was Governor Perry. I was set to vote for him as President and hoped he would be the 45th President of the United States. I stuck with him through a debate performance for which he was unprepared (I actually don’t believe debates trump records and Governor Perry’s record in his many years as the Governor of Texas was convincing to me). The upshot is that Governor Perry took out his twin cannons and started to unload into both of his own feet. This was hardly mine or Red State’s fault. He never even made it for me to vote for. Shooting self in feet must be a communicable disease because the entire Republican field caught it. Santorum fell apart when Obama mentioned “birth control”, Newt Gingrich started giving serious discussion to moon colonies and space mirrors, John Huntsman hired John Weaver and ran not on his record as Governor but Weaver’s typical “I am ashamed to be a RINO let alone not a conservative campaign”. Herman Cain decided to end his book tour. I don’t know what Michelle Bachmann did and Tim Pawlenty went running for the exits after losing, a straw poll. At the end of this carnage, there was Mitt Romney yawning his way to the nomination and managing not to catch “shootfoot” disease. That wasn’t Red State’s fault either.

  • davenj1

    is that under Obamacare, states have to set up insurance exchanges for high risk pools. If not, the federal government will come in and do it for them. And that is a problem in and of itself- yet another mandate where the federal government assumes one size fits all. Maybe an exchange would work in one state but not another. It is almost certain they would not work in small population states since there is not a large enough population base to begin with. That is a problem Delaware is facing.

  • APA Guy

    Unless I am misreading the law on this, I think that is precisely how this could shake out in the absence of repeal…someone please correct me if I am wrong here.

  • renny

    What will happen when it comes around again is iffy. NJ s a very Demo. state and loves spending and taxes.

  • spandrel

    My understanding is that the exchange is for any individual or any business with fewer than X employees, where X increases over time. And states can combine with other states in an exchange, to increase the pool.

    I definitely object – in principle and in practice – to the FG mandating solutions that states could better work out themselves. But in general the exchanges seem like a decent idea, is all.

  • stevends

    After all, Paul Ryan wants them for the elderly, and claims they will be a source of significant savings from government run insurance, i.e. medicare.

    Also, the law requires the states to set up exchanges, and if they don’t, the feds do it for you. So I’m not sure how this decision does anything other than give more power to the federal government.

    As for medicaid funding, I wonder what will happen with the healthcare lobby in each state starts to respond to these governors. There is a lot of money private industry stands to lose by states turning down this money.

  • stevends

    The high risk pool, which is what Ryan and other republicans advocate, is a temporary thing which will be replaced by the exchanges.

    The new exchanges will allow for individuals and small businesses to buy a variety of private insurance without regard to pre-existing conditions.

    My biggest problem with these exchanges is that as a perfectly healthy male with no family history of disease whatsoever, my insurance will be certainly higher. Of course, for my wife (who has acute cancer that will never be cured), the exchanges mean that she never will have to worry about being denied insurance.

  • jude68

    I will explain to you what the problem with Exchanges are after I explain to you about Fed vs State. First under the ObamaTax if the Strate does not set up an Exchange the Feds can…HOLD ON NOW! But if the FEDS (yes FEDS) set up the Exchanges THERE CAN BE NO NO SUBSIDIES for the people. ONLY IF THE STATE sets up the Exchanges can the people in that State receive a SUBSIDY!!…In other words….the FEDS in their wisdom iof hiding costs shifted the cost burden to states and hence the subsidy….sao if the FEDS run the Exchange you will paying top dollar with NO HELP!! Now if you cannot pay for it or are dropped by an employer again if the FEDs run the Exchange…YOU GET NO SUBSIDY to buy insurance…ONLY IF THE STATES DO!! It sounds goofy I know but you have to remember how this bill was sold!! You see that Provision was set up with the IDEA that if OBAMACARE was upheld in its entirety the STATES WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO SET-UP Exchanges and expand Medicaid or lose Federal Money!!

    HOWEVER, John Roberts and the other 4 Conservative Justices put a wrench in that by knocking down the STICK from HHS to FORCE State to comply bu saying…”OH SORRY MARXIST but you cannot withold CURRENT FUNDING OF MEDICAID if the States do not expand Medicaid. Which means what??? Those STATES like Florida, Wisconsin, Louisiana, Texas and South Carolina will not expand medicaid or set-up exchanges….whichs means THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO TAX the heck out of their citizens to pay for the cost of implementation. Remember in the Bill as the Bill goes along..STATES receive less from the FEDS. So what happens? As they expand those costs will get bigger and bigger and bigger to the States. It will also make business much more expensive as well.

    The Exchanges are nothing more than the Feds seeking to force people out of the marketplace and into ONE PAYER SYSTEM….Their will be NO COMPETITION in these so called Exchanges…THAT IS OBAMA TALK FOR BS!

    Why? because no private company has the resources to compete with the Federal Government. As these people ALLEGEDLY SHOP for Insurance…who do you think will be the CHEAPEST??? ANY GUESS???? The private insurers will forced out of the markety and BAM….all those people on those Exchanges will be nothing more than placed on a SINGLE PAYER UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM run by the FEDS.

    It is dressed up like Competition but if you buy that I have some lovely ocean views on URANUS! Obama’s goal has always been ONE: UNIVERSAL ONE PAYER HEALTH.

    The Medicaid slap down by Supremes was a bigger blow then some people realize. That means no subisidies if the Feds run which mean more expensive for the Feds and people. The States that keep Medicaid from expanding will save THEIR STATE BUDGETS and without the Exchanges they will still be able to buy insurance in their state.

    As for Lobbyists Sir will all due respect ..GROW UP!! The States Additional Money you elude to comes from where? THE FEDS and where will that money come from sir??? 500 billion to 1 trillion more in TAXES on the American People! And the States that expand Medicaid will NEVER get enough money from the Feds to cover that expansion and in fact, will decrease each year. So you get money up front from Feds (from more taxes) and then as your Medicaid expands and more people use it in your state…guess what YOU WILL HAVE TO RAISE TAXES more on your state as well. And businesses will avoid your state because of that and the Governors will tell you that OTHER SERVICES in the States will be adversely effected by expanding Medicaid….and you know what that means MORE TAXES to cover that shortfall.

    So your Lobbyists will not have a prayer in that battle because those states are going to get hit BIGTIME in the COST DEPARTMENT for a bill the majority of Americans do not want! Just wait to you how those states deal with influx and cost…California is already 16 billion in Debt….this alone will add BILLIONS for a State that is mess!

    So buddy….Florida, Louisiana, Texas, South Carolina and Wisconsin…have GOVERNORS that have the GUTS to protect their citizens BIG TIME from Big Tax increases in the very near future for a crappy junk system….NO SIR….these Governors are leading the way in INTELLIGENCE, SMART GOVERNANCE, INTEGRITY AND FEDERALISM!!

  • bgintn

    The Independent Payment Advisory Board – Cato Institute
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/PA700.pdf

  • bgintn

    Lie #3: “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.” ? Barack Obama, September 2009 address to joint session of Congress

    The Department of Health and Human Services finalized its rule that establishes state healthcare exchanges. In direct violation of the promise of Obama’s vaunted Executive Order 13535, those State exchange plans will collect from every premium payer every month a mandated $1 surcharge to fund abortions. Since it is Federal funds subsidizing the State exchanges, Obama’s HHS will use accounting gimmicks to circumvent the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits direct taxpayer funding of abortion.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/05/supreme-court-obamacare-decision-left-abortion-funding-intact/

  • checkmate2012

    I’ve been waiting to hear from him but expected him to stand his ground against the mighty Fed. Like he said, the Fed is at war with Texas and we will win.

    BTW, for those that don’t know, the expression, “draw a line in the sand” came from the battle at the Alamo! Go Texas!

  • jude68

    Boy are you duped!! Buddy these Exchanges are nothing more then the precursory to GOVERNMENT run Healthcare….are you that dumb? You better wake up…I love people who think these Exchanges will act like menus at McDonalds. WAKE UP!! There is no private insurance that will be able to compete with the FEDS!! These exchanges will force the private industry out of business….that is the PLAN!! Your wife will not be denied boy are you a sucker….Buddy once you are subject to Government run care by process of elimination….your wife will get nothing but what the LIFE EXPECTANCY panel approves….This is such a bait and switch…the whole intention is to make everyone stuck with Government run care. Buddy the prices of private insurance will be so HIGH you could not reach with aircraft!

    You will be stuck like most Americans with no choice except Government run care….you are ignorant if you think anything else. Take a look at the percentage of rates rising now….do you really think those will lower under this….GUESS AGAIN they are rising because of it. Businesses are going to drop coverages like flies….and then BAM who is left but the Government and NO private insurance in very quit time will DISAPPEAR..and then sir get ready for fewer drugs, surgeries, facilities, doctors, innovation and research. YOU WILL IN THE GOVERNMENT NIGHTMARE….that HAS ALWAYS BEEN OBAMA’s PLAN!

  • cbartlett

    I hate packing and moving but I’ll support your plan if anyone in the East Texas area needs help getting out of the state. (Obama absolutely HATES Texas – have you noticed?)

  • cbartlett

    Obama and the media are obviously getting THEIR message out – complete with all of the lies and mis-representations. The concepts that you are attempting to explain to numbsculls above is NOT getting through to the masses. The biggest problem with this issue and this presidential election is the massive numbers of uneducated/uninformed voters. How did we get here? Sigh.

  • jude68

    If what you were saying is true…well over 50 percent of people would want OBAMACARE and would like all the goodies….In fact, the majority of Americans want it repealed. Obamacare is a loser for Obama….Romney needs to explain the taxes contained in the bill…all of them….and he needs medical professionals in his campaign to address the issue of qaulity care. Remember we always say uneducated masses. The truth is you have 40 percent always that will support Obama….that will NEVER change….Obamacare is not a winner with Independents.

    The real issue is that Romney needs to make a connection with people.

  • spandrel

    There was a lot of talk about it, but there is no federal insurance plan that I can buy into. No “government run health care”, no “Medicare for all”. It’s just us and the insurance companies. The exchange can’t drive out the private insurers, because that’s all there will be in the exchange.

    Of course, there are federal subsidies – just one more transfer of wealth from rich blue states to poor red ones – but you don’t have to accept the subsidy if you don’t want it.

  • cbartlett

    I keep hearing call-ins to conservative talk shows for the last few weeks that make me crazy. People who say they are otherwise conservative call in and say “but I NEED ObamaCare because I can’t get health care because —— (name your reason) with out it.” If you add a handful of what I would call those “one-issue” (rather self-serving IMHO) squishy voters to those 40% who will ALWAYS support Obama, you are getting awfully close to that 50% that he needs to win.

    Yes – Romney definitely needs to connect more with people, but somebody, somewhere better start giving people some specifics to replace ObamaCare and not just continue to bash it. There are plenty of reasons to say no but we need to give them a reason to say “yes – I know this is bad policy and what you are proposing is an attempt to solve some of the problems.” Abolishing this horrible, freedom-killing law is absolutely necessary, but doing nothing to replace it is not going to be a winning strategy.

  • porkandcheese

    Right before the SC primary and endorse Gingrich, who couldn’t even place in NH after getting the Union Leader endorsement.