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The Establishment Hates Ted Cruz, You and Me

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  July 18th, 2012 at 04:30 PM  | 

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The most difficult thing to explain to your average Republican voter is how people like David Dewhurst, Charlie Crist and all the establishment, ladder-climbing, butt-kissing, near permanent political staff flacks who grow up to be lobbyists they put around them literally hate you, me, and conservative fighters like Ted Cruz. And newsflash — it’s not just Washington, but in state capitols throughout America, just like Austin.

I have many good friends in Austin and one of them overheard the following conversation yesterday a few blocks down from the Texas State Capitol Building. Trust me, folks, this is just a glimpse into what the Republican establishment thinks about us.

There was a guy sitting at the table next to me talking with some girl. I later figured out that this guy is a long time press guy who is now a senior aide to Joe Straus [The current liberal Republican Speaker of the House].

A guy comes up to the table — low 40′s typical lobbyist/politico type and starts some small talk — and to be fair, it was difficult to hear all the details, but the following is an accurate recounting of the tone and overall point, even if I missed a word or two.

The Straus aide says to him after some small talk, “Hey, how do you think your old boss is going to do?”

The guy looks around, looks at me, looks around… moves closer to the Straus aide and starts talking softly… “Well, I’m afraid not very well… it’s not a good environment.” They went back and forth a bit, and I couldn’t hear it all – but the guy was clearly frustrated… not at the campaign, but the “environment.” He said, “I came here to be part of a working majority… ” and not “to deal with all this kind of stuff” or something close to that.

The guy asked the Straus aide how he thought Dewhurst would do, and the Straus said, “It’s not looking good.”

The other guy then said something about immigration and how the folks in the Dewhurst office had been working on the issue but it was difficult because of the tea party and “all those crazies.”

Then – he added, “But I still haven’t given up – he’s going to spend a lot of money on tv these last two weeks… so…”

And then [the best part] he said, “man, the worst part is this guy [Ted Cruz] could be around for decades… and you know how hard it is to knock off an incumbent?”

The Straus aide responds “well, hopefully all this partisanship will die down in the future.”

My friend then added, “Erick, this is how they think. This conversation happens every day in every corner of the United States Capitol Building and every state capitol building in America. The establishment thinks we are crazy and something they have to ‘deal with.’ They think we just need to get back to compromising and working together to spend other people’s money so they can get back to their cocktail circuit and find their fat lobbying gig.”

And he’s right. This is war, and the current battle is simple: who will be the next U.S. Senator from Texas. The moderate, bumbling establishment pick David Dewhurst, or the conservative, young, Hispanic Constitutionalist, Ted Cruz?

Ted beat the snot out of Dewhurst again in the final debate last night. But with the election looming on July 31st, it won’t matter that Ted is clearly the best candidate and clearly the only conservative if you don’t get out and vote.

If you live in Texas, get out and vote for Ted and take your friends and family. If you don’t live in Texas, call your friends who do live there and get them to vote. In either case, send Ted money. Send a message to the establishment. We aren’t just something they have to deal with, we are freedom-loving Americans who are going nowhere and are not backing down.

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  • jfree

    but I will be taking others with me then.

  • nytexan67

    can kiss my asphalt! I can’t stomach them, they need to be taken out (by vote) like can at a bb gun shooting practice…! We were unable to vote in the primary, but next week because of that we are able to vote in the run-off. We will vote for Ted! How any common sense, normal, tax paying individual can not see through RINO Dewhurst is beyond me, especially after last night’s debate. What a tool!

  • nytexan67

    Amen, Amen!!!! We’re voting Monday as well! Can’t wait!

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Your mainstream – tell you what why don’t a bunch of us Tennesseans get together and run off those who think you are pariah.

  • craigbardo

    Like Tennessee. Governor Bill Haslam has a GOP controlled legislature and won’t stop the implementation of Obamacare. We have a stellar line up of GOP types in Congress like Bob Corker, Lamar Alexander, Diane Black, etc. I am a pariah with the Tennessee GOP because I ask why Haslam hasn’t acted.

    Yes, we want Ted Cruz instead of the establishment Dewhurst but the GOP has a larger problem, even in Red States. I have not wanted to fall into the camp of those who say R or D don’t matter and I’m still not there because there isn’t a single Democrat I’d vote for anywhere. However, neither of my senators supported Jim DeMint’s effort to block the UN Law of the Sea Treaty and are constantly frustrating plans to cut spending, are open to tax increases and Corker in particular talks a lot of mess about bi-partisanship. He sounds like McCain or Graham.

    The GOP has a substantial branding problem, conservatives cannot trust them.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    R+21 district – one of the most dependable Republican seats in the House and my representative is Phil Flippin Roe.

  • lonestarmom2813

    This debate will be at King Street Patriots 7232 Wynnwood Lane
    Houston, on Monday, July 23. It will be shown at the local Fox affiliate at 6 p.m. Doors open at 5 and close at 5:30. see http://www.kingstreetpatriots.org/ There was a candidates forum last Saturday in Tomball. Dew-crist was first, Cruz second. The auditorium was filled to capacity with additional citizens standing in the back and in both lobbies. Polite applause greeted the Lieutenant Governor. Standing ovations and loud cheers were reserved for Ted Cruz. Did I say almost everyone there (at least 200 people) wore Ted Cruz for Senator stickers?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Good to hear about the folks supporting Cruz.

  • Viet71

    Connecticut will go for Barry, so I really don’t have to vote for Romney (who seems not to be a great counter-puncher).

    I will vote for whomever the Repubs put up against Chris Murphy, however. Murphy is the worst sort of Democrat, if there is such a thing.

    Take it back. Richard Blumenthal, who falsely claimed repeatedly to be a Vietnam vet, is worse.

    Take it back about glad to be living in CT too.

  • earlgrey

    There are a number of Republicans in the state house that are facing primary challengers. I hope you check them out. There is only so much we can do, but our republicans haven’t been tested since we have had a predominately dem legislature.

    There is a pretty good tea party organization in TN. Republicans blocked every tea party initiative offered in the last session. Hopefully the primaries will weed some out on the local level.

    I don’t know what to do about Haslam. It seems he is no different or better than the Dem governor we had. Is there not much difference here?

  • spoasteph97

    So he has my trust. David Dewhurst followed along and later signed the pledge too. Someone has to ask why Dewhurst is always second in signing these pledges.

    Ted signed the Repeal Obamacare Pledge…Dewhurst followed.

    Ted signed the Reject the Debt Pledge…Dewhurst followed.

    Next thing we know, Dewhurst will have to bring Ted Cruz with him to Washington to help him know how to vote. He’s a follower…not a leader.

    VOTE TED CRUZ (so we don’t have to send Dewhurst and Cruz and pay two salaries.)

  • whitetop

    Joe Straus is Nancy Pelosi lite in that he runs the Texas House like a dictatorship and those who don’t pledge to him don’t get committee assignments and he fought to draw districts that would eliminate some Republicans. Straus was as much a problem w/the redistricting of congressional seats as the democrats and judges. Doug Miller, another Rhino, treats his constituents with contempt. His attitude is “how dare you question my loyalty to Strauss”. We tried to get rid of Miller in the primary but weren’t successful. May have to hold my nose and vote democrat in the election.

  • emptybucket

    and our state, New York in 1980. We just keep talking with everyone we know about the direction the United States is heading under RINO and Dem control. You know what? We are hearing democrats say they thought Obama was going to change DC and now they realize how foolish they were to cast a vote for him. We are hearing moderate Republican friends who voted for Obama say what a fool they were.

    There may be hope Viet71…Ronald Reagan won both of our states in his landslide election. It might be possible that with Obama’s speech off the teleprompter last Friday his pretense to be an American will continue to unravel. This is not some 3rd world country with a dictator with delusions of grandeur in charge, this is America.

    BTW, thank you for your service to this once Great country, may she be restored after this November’s election.

  • liberteen33

    This is where Ron Paul supporters and the Tea Party can come together and agree. Government is too big, is growing bigger at an alarming rate and we must stop it.

    The career politicos (aka the establishment) are doing nothing to stop it – hell they are doing everything they can to keep spending. Even Mitt Romney’s own proposed budget will increase the National Debt by $2.6 trillion. (which is still probably about $5 trillion less than Obama). http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_joe_conason/romney_s_budget_balancing_for_dummies

    I’m not a lunatic Paulbot, nor do I agree with the bulk of his foreign policy, but after Cain and Perry dropped out, I supported him in the primary because of his message on government spending. Sadly, I saw people, all of whom have been life long diehard Republicans, destroy friendships because of all the hate and vitriol that went back and forth between Paul supporters and Tea Partiers in the primaries. The name calling and ad hominen attacks were vicious from both camps, but the thing that always astounded me was not how much the two groups differed on foreign policy (and there is a big difference), but how much the two groups have in common when it comes to cutting government spending.

    My fear is that while both the Paul supporters and Tea Partiers continue to tear each other apart on the foreign policy split, the Democrats and the Establishment Republicans will just continue to rob us blind. I don’t think the Paul crowd will fully recover from the fantasy that Ron will be the nominee until after Tampa, but in the meantime, the rest of us in the GOP who still want to cut federal spending might consider focusing on what we have in common, rather than what we don’t.

  • Viet71

    Reagan was special. He knew how to go directly to the voters. Because of his acting and communication skills.

    Romney lacks those skills. Obama has some of them.

  • Tbone

    Nothing more than elitist bastards sucking on the teets of ego inflated political hacks.

  • acat

    We saw it with the Reagan Revolution, and with the Contract With America.

    Conservatives became .. annoyed .. at the elitist bastards and voted ‘em out.

    Conservatives delegated responsibility for cleaning up the mess to the GOP … who turned out to be just as awful as the elitist bastards… but not as clever. (glares at Denny Hastert..)

    What’s needed is to not delegate and leave, but to stay engaged in governing .. this is not Conservatives’ strong suit.

    Mew

  • poorwilber

    Until the last three or four years, you couldn’t say “RINO” without being labeled a nut case in any forum. Tea Party activism changed all that, as the peeps are finally coming to realize an R after the name is no guarantee of conservative quality.

    There is a new verb in the lexicon, “primary” the b@st@rds.

    In my mind, the movement started when GW Bush tried to push comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty) through the Congress. The switchboard melted down. Again, when GW Bush tried to enforce the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations treaty, and force a Texas court to review the conviction of a Mexican murderer who raped and brutally killed two teenage girls. In this case, our hero Ted Cruz….beat this back in the SCOTUS. The Bush DoJ lost, and the murderer was executed in 2009.

  • midnightduck

    I live in district that Straus “represents”. I also got to vote against Lamar Smith. In the run-off we also have Dr Donna Campbell for Railroad Commissioner, Do not forget her. I had to move to Washington state for work, but i am keeping my Texas residency so i can vote for those two in this primary run-off.

  • dagnyt

    and so is my family. we’ve been talking to neighbors and friends and there’s a lot of support for him. hope it happens for him.

  • votejoel

    I sent him a few bucks last week and he certainly has my vote!

    Go Ted! joel in Dallas

  • becky5

    when our own party holds us in such contempt. They really do think it’s about them, not us. We fight where we can, I’m not in TX but will make another donation to Cruz’s campaign today.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    where we live at the precinct level as committeeman.

    With, on average, about half of the precinct committeeman slots still vacant, on average, in every county across America, and with the filled slots split about 50-50 between conservatives and “others,” the Party officer slots at the local district, county, state and even national committee levels are there for the taking. Do the math. If conservatives would “invade” their local Party committees and fill up all the vacancies, that 50-50 split transforms into a 75% majority for conservatives.

    It’s all about seeking out conservatives where you live (in the tea parties, the 9.12 groups, etc.) and uniting and organizing them locally for political action inside the Republican Party itself.

    Consider calling your county elections department. Ask them how many Republican Party precinct committeeman slots exist and how many are filled. Ask how many precincts have NO Republican precinct committeeman.

    You might be surprised by the answers.

    Consider then calling your Republican county committee chairman and ask him the same questions.

    I hope this helps.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • tamminator

    here in Minnesota.
    Now, these same “good old boys” are showing up at our tea party meetings, and all of us know that they are full of crap.

  • thx1138v2

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it ‘ s because they want it that way.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees…

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
    ————————————————————————————-
    And THAT is why they hate us. Believe it or not – they fear us.

  • acat

    “Vote ‘em all out!” fails because it throws out a Jim DeMint or Mike Lee just as it throws out a Dick Durbin or a Bob Casey…

    Sure, “vote ‘em all out!” sounds great on a bumper sticker, but it’s as intellectually vapid as “Deport ‘em all!” or “Where’s the birth certificate?” ….

    Mew

  • tamminator

    I don’t.
    If they’re all thrown out, they won’t take their constituents for granted.

    Do over. Only way to get rid of the “club”. Cancel all of their memberships.

  • jude68

    Just listened to Ted Cruz on Mark Levin and he really impressed me. He will be getting a donation from myself. I cannot stand RINOS and I cannot stand the Arrogance of Estasblishment hacks like Dewhurst or Do Wrong or Do Whatever. Cruz has a backbone and I like that immensely. He is definitely the type that will force McConnell to REPEAL OBAMACARE and Dewhurst would be more in the mold of a McCain or Corker or Alexander….or worse Snowe!! NO WAY!! Cruz has a great sense of the real and great zest for the CONSTITUTION!! LOVE IT!! God we need more like him!! I also loved the way he mentioned how he would reach out and help Mandel from Ohio and Murdoch from Indiana raise MONEY!! Dewhurst would do no such thing!

    Ted money being sent your way…I will spend as much as I can to defeat RINOS, OBAMA and LIBERALS. I cannot stomach their disregard for the US Constitution and American Exceptionalism, for their Refusal to Cut Spending, Attacking Freedom and Hurting Business!! I AM FED UP TO MOUNT EVEREST WITH IT!

    You want a fight well then DARN WELL YOU WILL GET ONE!

  • mikeymike143

    but here is why, the tea party backed candidates in florida won the primary battles we got involved in, and then our guys all won in the general. we won the governors race(rick scott), the AG race(pam bondi), the senate race(marco rubio) and NUMEROUS other races.

    want to see an example of what i mean. when fla. gov. rick scott unveiled his first budget, he actually did it at a TEA PARTY MEETING. and you cant tell me this budget isnt a DIRECT result of our tea party movement in florida. check out the press coverage of the event. LOL

    EUSTIS ? At a highly partisan tea party event Monday, Gov. Rick Scott unveiled his first budget proposal to make sweeping changes to state government by slashing billions in taxes and spending.

    Scott proposed spending almost $66 billion ? $4.6 billion less than this year’s budget. Scott also wants to eliminate 7 percent of the state’s government jobs, which would mean about 6,700 state-worker layoffs. He wants even more cuts the following year.

    Scott’s proposal was cheered by conservative activists and businesses, but it provoked a lukewarm response from fellow Republicans in the state Capitol. Democrats, unions and state workers could barely contain their bitterness with Scott’s calls to cut billions from schools, pensions and health programs.

    “As long as 1.1 million Floridians are out of work, we can’t afford a government that runs wild with taxes, regulations and excessive spending,” Scott told the enthusiastic crowd of 1,000 conservative activists.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/gubernatorial/article1150127.ece

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    I can pretty well guarantee you one thing. You won’t like the replacements any better in two years.

    There’s a constant with grand and sweeping ideas. They’re always stupid.

  • earlgrey

    if people are tired of the whole tea party thing. I was too, but then I found that my local tea party is really active on local level ) and state level. We are supporting a number of candidates. It is easier to be an activist when there is an organization in place. I guess I am lazy because I sort of got involved with this group late. I had the wrong impression of them.

    It makes me sleep a little better at night working on this. I am glad to learn more about Scott and what he did in FL. I remember Erick talking about him before the race and I think they were expecting it to be close. To be honest, though, I wasn’t expecting Scott to be the asset that he is. He doesn’t get the press that Walker gets. Maybe if more people knew what you just told me they’d look up their local tea party too.

  • popdaddy

    You know Dewcrist is a problem when all the socialist rags still publishing dead tree paper in Texas call him a moderate.

    Every Texas voter needs to read the Tim Carney 7/15 article in the Washington Examiner to confirm what an establishment puppet Dewcrist would be in the US Senate. http://washingtonexaminer.com/carney-senate-runoff-in-texas-k-street-vs.-the-tea-party/article/2502235

    Pull quote: ?Everyone who makes their living from continuing the government spending gravy train is supporting Dewhurst,? Cruz told me in a phone call.

    Sure enough, Dewhurst?s donors include plenty of corporations whose lobbying agendas clash with today?s conservative agenda of free markets and lower spending.

  • gekster

    we are there, in the shadows, if you may.
    Sometimes we are mostly silent,
    but we are there in all fifty seven states.

  • txgrunner

    Ah, you are a ’09ner, huh?

    I sent in my absentee ballot for Cruz and Campbell two weeks ago via DHL.

    When I read the email Erick’s friend sent, I could have sworn the schmuck was referring to RINO Wentworth. I have no way of knowing of course, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a Wentworth staffer.

    Too bad Straus won. At least several of his boot-kissers were sent packing.

    I voted for the challenger to Lamar Smith also.

    I wish I was in congressional district 36 and could vote for Steve Stockman. There is a blank slate candidate with no history running against Stockman in the runoff. Stockman is the real deal conservative going back to Reagan. In congress, he was 100% ACU rating.

  • dpmaine

    I had the distinct displeasure of having to walk near an Occupy protest to get to work.. and I can tell you that although the Tea Party isn’t a sexy, super-fun sounding enterprise, it’s a working movement, that puts rears in the chairs and votes in the box.

    Scott is going to be my new governor (moving to FL in 2 weeks), and it’s refreshing to see the fruits of the TP movement in State government. Hard to predict how long it will take to make that headway on the Federal level.

  • greyeagle

    I agree that the Tea Party is supporting very good candidates. I am concerned now that John Mica is going to knock off Sandy Adams who has been very supportive of the people in her district. I believe she was supported by the Tea Party to get elected, but seems to be having problems now.

  • mikeymike143

    as an active tea partier, i say that we ostracize and shun the paulbots like we would lepers.

    they are anti semites and code pink lovers. scum of the lowest sort, just like their demigod paul. and nutjob paul and his looney paulbot followers are persona non grata on this site. as you will soon figure out.

    and voters in all 50 states rejected that loser. and that career politician was one of the biggest porkers in congress!!!

    and plenty of conservatives and tea partiers DESPISE him and his followers, you would lose 5 conservatives/tea partiers for every paulbot you welcomed into the republican camp.

    paulbots main issue is that they are members of the anti war left.. that makes them diametrically opposed to conservatives. and i consider them the real life enemies of conservatives and tea partiers everywhere.

  • PowerToThePeople

    continue to tear Ron Paul and his followers apart. There must never be common ground with those loons, and if the Tea Party wants to remain relevant, they must distance themselves as far as possible from the as*wipes known as RP cult members.

    Would you like to know what I would love to do to every Ron Paul follower out there right along with their leader?

  • Xasteius

    Please encourage your fellow Ron Paulites to vote for Romney, and support limited government candidates at the local levels.

  • aesthete

    Hopefully the broad right (and that includes at least some of the Paulites) doesn’t make the classic mistake of ripping itself apart over side issues when they agree on the main course. We have to much at stake to be at each others’ throats all the time.

  • aesthete

    The man we’re posting about — Ted Cruz — is endorsed and supported by both DeMint and Paul. DeMint, a strong Iraq War supporter and all around model conservative, has called for rapproachment between the Paulite and conservative branches. He rightly recognizes that there are plenty of ways to gain votes from the Paulites without abandoning conservative principles or losing conservative votes, and that we need as many votes in favor of fiscal sanity and free markets as possible. Going out of your way to insult and drive away votes is not helpful to anyone but the left, which would love to see conservatives fritter away support for no good reason.

  • mikeymike143

    us tea partiers dont want the paul stench on us.

  • PowerToThePeople

    and Ron Paul’s endorsement came only because of his deep dislike for Perry who endorsed Dewhurst.

    Not too mention that the above poster stated nothing about Cruz, simply wanted to associate the normal Tea Party members with the retard Ron Paul members by claiming how much they have in common. The only common thing about the two groups is that they both rely on oxygen to survive, politically there should be little to nothing in common.

    Not too mention, few real Ron Paul supporters vote with our party once Ron Paul has backed out. We lose nothing by showing everyone what scumbags they are.

  • mikeymike143

    unlike aesthete’s, your post shows a lot of ”real life common sense”.

  • davenj1

    and the sad part is that it doesn’t take long for them to not be engaged in governing. Following that agricultural bill boondoggle in the House and its sad so many Tea Party-backed candidates are going for this institutional pork.

  • JSobieski

    You may not agree but its true

  • JSobieski

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/203557-sen-demint-urges-republicans-to-listen-to-ron-paul-

  • becky5

    from the article: “The American Hospital Association has been the most consistent booster of Obamacare. The lobby group even filed a brief with the Supreme Court arguing on the administration?s behalf regarding the individual mandate. AHA?s PAC gave $5,000 to Dewhurst. Other Obamacare backers whose PACs have funded Dewhurst this election include the American Medical Association, Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline.”

    Anyone who thinks Dewhurst would support repealing Obamacare has to be out of their mind.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    They want to own it or burn it – sometimes I can’t figure out which. You end up with stunts like trimulchio pulled today which was essentially an anti-Romney rant right off the most radical of the Daily Pauls.

    Worse what has happened in Nevada where will be depending on LDS to perform most of the normal functions of the Republican Party because the Paulbots that took it over won’t (well unless Ron Paul is on the ticket then they will perform the functions of the Party).

    Embracing Paulbots is fine as long as they are willing to give their vote without voice to the more nutty ideas that cost you more votes than you are getting; how many Paulbots does that deal actually bring in the fold?

    liberteen33 seems more like a small government conservative to me than a Paulbot. You can’t be a paulbot without accepting the foreign policy – it really is the foundation of what Paul believes.

  • checkmate2012

    but more nefarious are the proposed amendments. We must stop the genetically modified food amendment so I’ll have to do a separate diary.

    TEA Party and Conservatives should shun this bill for all the stuff they bundled. But I don’t want to thread-jack anymore and will be voting for Cruz on 7/31!

  • mikeymike143

    Rush Limbaugh: I?m sorry, but this Ron Paul is going to destroy this party. This is nuts on parade. The media loves this guy as nuts on parade. They want the whole Republican Party to be identified with the kookiness of Ron Paul.

    Mark Levin: This guy is poison.

    Judson Phillips, Chairman, TPN(tea party nation): Has Ron Paul been evaluated for dementia? He is raving mad.

    Allen West: Ron Paul ?Not the Kind of Guy You Need to Be Sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?

  • checkmate2012

    enought delegates to get on the convention platform, right? Due to his big loss in NE. So his little party platform is over, done.

    I guess I don’t know what will happen in the few states he got the most delegates but know that he didn’t get enough to even speak and hopefully Romney won’t hand him the mic.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Latter Day Saints – Romney isn’t going to let him anywhere close to a mic….

  • checkmate2012

    No worries as he lost his chance in NE like I just posted. Relax :)

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    took over the state Republican Party – basically the Party can’t or won’t perform its most basic functions in an election year. We are lucky that LDS is able and willing to fill the usual GOTV functions there. Hope that explains more clearly.

  • checkmate2012

    So RP won the delegates but you surmise that the LDS will have to take over? Isn’t that good for Romney?

  • mikeymike143

    and that includes his paulbot cult followers. his code pink loving followers cannot be allowed to slime their way into the republican party. they are neither conservative nor republican. and there is no sense to us working so hard to eliminate RINO’s from the party if you are going to bring anti semites and occupy scum.

    and pttp knows that. look at what he posted that started with ”I hope the real Tea Party Members”.

  • acat

    While I despise Ron Paul, I do not think this is the time for this argument. We had it during the primaries and, as expected, we won.

    Let us be civil toward Paul followers who choose to join us in supporting Romney. Who knows, maybe we’ll keep some of them around after.

    Mew

  • checkmate2012

    and like acat said below, we’ll at least take their vote over one for O. Luckily we can put a fork in him since his delegate endeavor is done. I think he’ll disappear like Perot after trying multiple times unsucessfully…hopefully. I don’t see his son taking up the cause.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    I’ll take anyone’s vote…

  • liberteen33

    There is a difference between Ron Paul the “personality”, and the principles that Ron Paul articulates.

    I don’t care about Ron Paul the personality, he’s out of politics.

    As for his principles, I like his economic principles, but his foreign policy principles are misguided, and I disagree with them.

    “paulbots main issue is that they are members of the anti war left..”

    “they are anti semites and code pink lovers. scum of the lowest sort, just like their demigod paul. and nutjob paul and his looney paulbot followers”

    I know there are A LOT of wacko Paulbots out there, but the people I know that are “hard-core” Ron Paul supporters are life long Republicans and are certainly not anti-semites. And while they do share Paul’s mistaken foreign policy views, they also really care about the debt and government spending and they were pissed off that debt rose as much as it did when we the GOP controlled Washington.

    These folks are not going to vote for Obama. The challenge is going to be bringing them back into the fold so they do come out and vote for Romney.

    But its ok, I get, I’m the (sort of) new guy around here, so I should expect that comments suggesting common ground with Ron Paul supporters,are gonna draw the ire of the Ron Paul police.

    To be fair, I’m sure if I went on one of the Paulbot forums and suggested they should try to find common ground with the Tea Partiers, I would be hit with a similar barrage of insults, slurs and ad hominen attacks. It wouldn’t be the internet without it!

  • acat

    that if you suggested to a hardcore Paulistinian that he or she find common cause with the Tea Parties, you’d be told that Ron Paul started them.

    As for the economic theory, what parts of it do you find attractive?

    Mew

  • liberteen33

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/impartial-analysis-finds-only-ron-paul-would-cut-us-debt-burden

  • liberteen33

    …is the most serious threat to our nation. I’m not trying to grandstand or to diminish other problems, because its not about that – its about the math. And unless we get a handle on spending, the math doesn’t look pretty.

    The douchebags in Washington don’t want anyone talking about spending policies – they’d rather have everyone focused on contraception, and Trayvon Martin, and Bain Capital, or some other load of bs.

    I’m not saying that we will be living under tin roofs in 4 years, but if we do not reign in federal spending this cycle, we are just kicking the can down the road.

  • teapartypatriot4ever

    I am personally not offended in the least, as I not only see the Reagan Conservative Tea Party folks, aka the people, as winning in our efforts, but we, and specifically myself, proudly wear their disdain and contempt as a badge of honor, for only when one is over the target, will they ever get flack.. thus we know who and what they are and who they consider their enemy, ie; we the people, by their own words and actions.

    But we the people could care less about what they, the liberal progressive GOP establishment think, say, do, like or do not like, as that is their problem..

    They tried destroying Ronald Reagan for decades, but failed, and why, because Ronald Reagan stood for, and stood up for, Individual Freedom, Liberty, Democracy, the actual adherence to US Constitution, and the responsibility to be responsive to the People, for which these corrupt parasitic progressives will always hate.

    They despise and disdain any and all attempts to have “the People” actually control their own govt, their own money, their own power, instead of these entrenched permanent political class elitists, the same way they are trying to destroy Ted Cruz, Allen west, and all Tea Party Reagan Conservatives, aka the People.

    Thus ours is not to try to reason with those who have no reason, no logic, no values and principle of goodness whatsoever, ours is to only defeat them., period, whatever side of the political aisle they come from..

  • Gwynplaine

    Did what I could from Illinois in the way of a contribution to Cruz. Now it’s up to you fine Texans to put Cruz over the top Sam Houston style. Then let’s work hard and get together for the big show in November. I don’t want to just win; I want to run up the score. I want progressive eyes to bleed as they watch the returns roll in.

  • funwithknives

    Snipers throw the fear of god into ‘the troops’.
    They never know where, or WHO, the next round is aimed at.
    ‘Selectivity’, ….yeah, thats’ the ticket….

    Decimation worked pretty well for the Romans.
    Alternate Idea # Two?

  • eldstenorge

    It has been time for years to let the “establishment” in the GOP know we have had enough. They want our votes, that is all they want. I just pray that Texas is smarter than the people here in Utah who voted for Orrin Hatch again after he publicly stated when asked about conservatives and tea party people, that they make him so mad he would like to “punch them in the nose.” To me, anyone who would say such a thing about their own constituents as abrogated their right to hold any public office. But, people think they are conservative here, but they want bigger and bigger government to do things for them. They do not understand that there are principles we need to stand for and support, they only know one thing here, Orrin Hatch has so much seniority we have to have hm in office again and that it is good for Utah. Well, is it really good for Utah, or any state in this situation, if the person with the seniority does not represent us? Ask ourselves of these “establishment” types, do they represent us? If not, why vote for them? I just hope Texas gets it right, like Indiana did, and elects Ted Cruz, and in so doing, shows the establishment we have had enough.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    have folks like Jim DeMint, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Tom Coburn done to get fired? Also, as acat has pointed out numerous times, wiping everyone out, pretty much puts the unelected staffers in charge because they are the only ones with any institutional memory. “Fire ‘em all” is Sheriff Joe level thinking. Fire Sherrod Brown, Claire McCaskill, Bob Casey, Joe Manchin, Lisa Murkowski, Lamar Alexander would only be prudent. We don’t need to kill the whole bush just a nice pruning.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    I’ll give you a Tennessee example and then go to the national stage. Scott DesJarlais was elected in 2010 in the Tea Party wave; he upset a sitting Democrat, Lincoln Davis, that few felt was vulnerable; then he got a redistricting gift which took a lean Democrat district to solid red (i.e. the state legislature took Murfreesboro, the 6th largest city in the State and solidly Republican out of the 6th and moved it to 4th). DesJarlais promptly went to Washington and nailed his lips to John Boehner’s butt. His reward should be a strong primary challenge but instead his challenger literally said he was running to give the people in Murfreesboro a chance to vote for a native of Rutherford County and that DesJarlais had a good voting record. Hardly, a position that inspires throwing DesJarlais out. Phil Roe represents my home district TN1 which is bleeding red republican. For my money, vote vs district, Roe is the biggest squish in the House. No primary challenge and no general challenger so he is going back to the House. First, we have to constantly be recruiting candidates to build a bench that threatens these guys every election. This is attention.

    Nationally, we are kind of in a box where lots of delegates are available in Dem states like California, Illinois, New York where RINOS do well or Dems cross and vote the RINO or the least plausible candidate. I am not sure what we do to confront that…but it is something we should consider. We are going to have to find a way to appeal to those that vote for RINOS that they shouldn’t and that is winning hearts and minds. This is getting outvoted.

  • jen0517

    The contrast between the two candidates was striking. Just like at the RPT Convention, Dewhurst was greeted with modest, obligatory applause. When Ted Cruz entered the room – it erupted into cheers, whistles, sign waving and a standing ovation! Clearly – the grassroots favor Ted Cruz and we’re fired up to support him!

    We were only able to submit written questions which were then selected for the candidates by the forum moderators. I submitted a question for Dewhurst regarding the $6 billion budget deficit that the state faces in 2012-2013 budget. The submitted budget, which was supposedly “balanced”, used 24 months of revenue to pay for only 19 months of services (sound familiar – just like Obamacare using 10 years of revenue to pay for only 6 years of services). Dewhurst basically said that I was wrong, there was no deficit, and that “there would be plenty of money” when the next budget cycle started. Huh? Is there a deficit or not? And where are you going to get the money to fill the deficit? Are you going to raid the Rainey Day Fund…again?

    To me, Dewhurst seems like a sleazy, back-room deal maker and acts as if he’s entitled to the Senate seat. Sorry, but that doesn’t work for me. I will be voting for Ted Cruz and so will my husband and the rest of my family.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    The priority has to be to build a bench so we can primary the right (or not so right) people.

    It’s easy to whine about “Rinos”, it’s hard work to beat ‘em. Just look at Utah. A very good candidate to run against Hatch and he wins big. He is almost as bad a Lugar and he’s definitely part of the problem, NOT part of the solution. Hatch wins in a landslide because he pretended he believes in something for six months.

    Frankly, the only reason Lugar lost is because he’s an arrogant a-hole.

  • edintexas

    We don’t need to be our own 2d worst enemy (third if you don’t lump
    Communists in with Democrats).

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    That noted Marxist – Henry Waxman is in a fight for his life for the first time in his career. One of the biggest funders of other Democratic House members has let the caucus know – he’ll be using his campaign cash on himself this go around as he is hanging on by his fingertips.

  • cbartlett

    I checked the LOST vote for the two Texas Senators – Cornyn supported DeMint’s efforts and stupid Hutchison DIDN’T! Hence the reason we desperately need Ted Cruz to replace her – ASAP.

    I have tickets to the FreedomWorks FreePAC event in Dallas on the 26th where Ted will be one of the keynote speakers. I sure wish there was a way to get some bang-up media coverage of the event to show the rest of Texas (and the country) the kind of grassroots support Ted has. The event is 5 days before the actual runoff date and could prove to be a real surge for his campaign IF the media would do the unbiased reporting they SHOULD do. Sigh.

    I also find it interesting that one of the things Dewhurst is using “against” Cruz in mail ads is that Cruz “has donors from all 50 states” – like that is a BAD thing! I just think it shows that the rest of the country is sick of the liberal GOP establishment mentality. Pretty amazing that they seem to be so blind to that.

  • cbartlett

    Sounded great – a REAL constitutionalist! I’ve been supporting him since he starting campaigning last fall. There are signs all over our neighborhood. Saw a few older GOP hard-liner friends raise their eyebrows at me in the last few weeks. I have never in my life been more invested emotionally in an election – the 31st cannot come soon enough.

  • celador2

    I look to a specific action in a promise as much as an overall overview on stands on the constitution or tea party supoort in the Texas race. Someone needs tie Cruz to a specific action that needs to be done in the Senate but has not.

    I was impressed with the message of Mourdock in Indiana as he got very specific on the rate of growth of government and said many times that he would not compromise.

    He said Democrats propose spending more by four bh, Republicans by two bn. They settle on a three bn increase. He will not compromise on the growth of government. That stood out as a signature issue.

    He will compromise on others unspecified issues but not the debt.

    On paper Cruz is like the Indiana GOP nominee on policy. I hope he has the same zeal to hold the line and stay the course that Ron Johnson has shown from 2010 and Mourdock says he will show when he is in Senate.

  • celador2

    No one wants a challenger and the institutional sructures that make up political establishments are far and wide. They feel the pull. The teaparty and their candidates are pests and threats to those who feel entitled to make policy and hold office on their terms, they say.

    Nuts have no business running, and their running makes an election competitive and harder to win, they complain. The Cruz competition is offering something different that Dewhurst. Cruz’s running is more than one man with a bio. His campaign is the result of a politcal void, thus a demand.

    If there is a market demand for constitutional conservatives?
    Is there a politcal demand for men and women who go to DC because of it, who cite it in mark ups and think about its limits on federal government? Policy based on the constitution’s ennumerated authority is what Cruz says he will implement..

    Voters have responded well across this land to the constitutional conservative candidates who will deal with broken DC and diminish its power.

    Its worth a try!

  • ihateliberals

    Ever since GHW Bush took office from Reagan the Elite Establishment has been moving the Party to the left. we conservatives we pretty much kicked out of the Party when GW Bush took office and when Michael Steele became the RNC Chairman. The Tea Party was a great movement but as soon as the 2010 elections were over the Establishment started the dismantling of the Tea Party and they have been pretty successful at it. One of the biggest left-wing Republicans, John McCain, was able to discredit the Tea Party candidate and have the AZ voters retun him to DC where he is working with the left on the floor and behind the scenes. As soon as this election is over and regardless of the out come it is time to create a full fledged conservative Party. We need to leave the Republicans behind the way the Republicans left the Whigs behind in 1854. The Republicans are working with the left more and more all the time. If you look at the voting records you will find the Congress on a whole votes 60% of the time for liberal causes. This is disgraceful. John boehner another left-wing Republican is the worst Speaker of the House in recent memory. he lied to us and in his first confrontation on the 2011 budget vowed to cut $100 billion while the left only want $30 billion. after behind doors deals he settled for $33 billion. he said he would never cut deals behind closed doors and that was the first thing he did as Speaker. He then lashed out at the Tea Party who actually put him in office. That is biting the hand that feeds you. It is time for themadness to stop and as soon as we get barrack Obama out of office it is time to get the Republicans out of DC. I have been a life long Conservative Republican and never thought i would see the day my Party would turn against me.

  • RJLigier

    I expect this type of behavior from Moe Lane, but not from you. I will not vote for homo/bi libertarian, married or not, during such contentious culture wars. We still have the sociopaths within the APAs/ABA and the US State Department via the executive branch attempting to impose homosexual marriage on a global basis even after being firmly rejected by the European Court of Human Rights in the interest of children with replicable, empirical data.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    What does this have to do with either Ted Cruz or David Dewhurst?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I can’t speak for the mods, but I feel safe in saying that your little screed is not welcomed here by the redstate community.

    For the record, Moe is one of the most treasured and valuable assets conservatives have, as is Erick.

    I’ll be making another donation to Ted Cruz with you in mind.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    I thought they had moved on from pro gay/pro pot to pedophile….

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I suspect he was referring to the Cruz donor in his own twisted way. Not that it’s going to matter.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    Even if he wins reelection, it’s a ton of money he’s not passing out to others.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    We can’t even get enough folks involved at the local level to find and groom good conservative candidates or run themselves. They don’t just pop up out of nowhere.

    Talk is cheap. Are you involved in your local GOP? Tea Party? GOTV?

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Active aggression is way more fun to watch.

  • soljerblue

    the Tea Party isn’t dead; it’s morphing into the ranks of the Republican establishment, and will raise plenty of #3!! with those clowns before we’re through. I’ve always believed, and said often, that before we can change the country we first have to change the Republican party at the top. Won’t happen overnight, but it will happen eventually — or the GOP will go the way of the Federalists and the Whigs.

  • infiltr8tr

    Even if we pull out a number of great victories, it won’t be enough until people like Boehner, Upton, Cantor, McConnell & Grahmnesty are primaried & canned! After that, let the investigations begin because one thing I am sick and tired of is our side choosing NOT to investigate the 5th column marxists on the other side (Dodd, Frank & Waters come to mind.) once we have a majority. Frog march these traitors out the front door in cuffs & be done with them! THEY have no problem doing this to us.