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Breaking: McChrystal Out, Petraeus IN


Breitbart reports that Petraeus will replace McChrystal.

While the narrative might veer toward suggesting this is MacArthur-esque, the MacArthur here (the pompous, overconfident, know-it-all that won’t listen to his closest advisors) is Commander-In-Chief Barack “I have no clue what I’m doing but I’ll be damned if I’ll allow myself to be criticized by underlings” Obama:

A source tells The Associated Press that President Barack Obama has decided to oust Afghanistan commanding Gen. Stanley McChrystal over inflammatory remarks he made about Obama and other high administration officials.

McChrystal had apologized for several disparaging remarks he made in an interview about his civilian superiors.

More as this story develops…

COMMENTS

  • shermantank

    McChrystal voted for the slime bag Obama, WHAT DID HE EXPECT? That is what utterly amazes me; McChrystal admits voting for this president! ! ! WHAT WAS HE THINKING?

    • betsyred

      Why is Rolling Stone off the hook in this? Just like the NYT, they have chosen to publish information knowing full well the damage it would do to our country, especially our troops in harm’s way. Freedom of the press is one thing but deliberate efforts to cause this dramatic shakeup in command during a time of war is quite another. Our president is concerned about responsible blogging and reporting on the internet, yet he didn’t have a thing to say in his remarks that would condemn RS or the writer of the article, who will now make the rounds on all the talk shows and have his few minutes of fame. He won’t lie awake at night like many mothers wondering if this may somehow have a negative impact on sons that sleep in the sand half a world away. Maybe it will be an instructional moment for our president and his staff; -they, too, like to name call and take cheap shots at others when they should be held to a higher standard. The comments from this article were embarrassing and demeaning. So are remarks that have come from the White House about tea party goer’s and people being bitter clingers, and on and on. We harvest the respect we sow. Hopefully, everybody has learned something.

  • http://www.TownBeef.com CTGuyton

    I swear, then entire time I was watching President Obama’s announcement, all I could hear was Cartman yelling “Respect My Authoritah!”

  • http://www.redstate.com/biggator5/ BigGator5

    I’d fire Gen McChystal as well. What he allowed to happen showed great immaturity on the part of the Afghanistan Military Leadership. I also don’t think Barack Obama or anyone else in his administration has any maturity as well.

    However I hope Gen. David Petraeus can at least bring some maturity to Afghanistan. If not, then I will renew my call to get out of Afghanistan.

    • shermantank

      Oh, I see, like we’ve really got “maturity” in the White House.

      • liandro

        that is irrelevant. If I don’t like my CO it doesn’t suddenly release me from Code of Conduct, the Army Values, or UCMJ. Yes, I think this whole thing is being a bit overblown, but not by too much. And yes, it is very political…but politics is very much a part of McChrystal’s job. A lot of grunts pretty much view generals as politicians, of sorts, to begin with.

        • theduck6

          I don’t think McCrystal is stupid and..IT’S ROLLING STONE MAG fer chrissakes!!! You didn’t think it would get into print regardless of any promises to the contrary. The rag er mag…no rag will sell out. This doesn’t feel like a misstep to me but I’m not totally sure of the end game yet.

          Obama admitted it was all “above his pay grade” but he was elected and until we can rectify our mistake we must live with the consequences.

          • theduck6

            disparaging Biden? He’s a walking gaffe machine. The only time he removes his foot from his mouth is to put the other one in.

        • Achance

          uniformed bureaucrats, which is a subset of politician. A high-level bureaucrat has to understand and be able to play politics even if s/he doesn’t aspire to elected or appointed positions.

          Alaska has a lot of veterans, I think the highest percentage in the Country, and a very strong veterans’ preference in public employment, so I’ve worked with a lot of RMOs (Retired Military Officer). Some of them are good guys and hard chargers but lots of them are conniving, back-biting SOBs who require a supporting cast of thousands and whose egos fill large buildings.

          • aesthete

            Full-bird Colonels are for all intents and purposes, the Brig. Gen of the past, and have been for some time. Most of our bases and posts in the AF and Army are under the command of a full-bird Colonel (with exceptions for some of our commands, particularly NATO bases), and even getting to Colonel is a somewhat political process (though not to the level of getting to General).

    • neukm

      How is it possible to equate aides’ statements to the press with an advocacy to escalate with CHINA…by perhaps our most powerful modern general? McCrystal’s command would be more comparable to Ridgeway’s. imho

      I hope Gen. McCrystal made his disillusionment abundantly clear to owebama! ie..ROE

  • jimmyp

    I miss Bush. He really knew what he was doing and always too the advice of those close to him. These wars would be over if he were still in office.

  • liandro

    …starting with talking to Rolling Stone at all. Most of the “bad” quotes are attributed to Gen. McChrystal’s aides, but that doesn’t really help his case. I think the bottom line came down to how this interview would further undermine dynamics between the civilian and military team in Afghanistan, and to the very public denigration of leadership. Soldiers talk all the time, but putting it on the front page is another matter. I presume nominating Gen Petraeus is meant to signify that the President is taking Afghanistan seriously, both to America and our allies over there.

    Speaking of taking Afghanistan seriously, though: plenty of fingers can, and should be, pointed at how Obama has not taken Afghanistan as seriously as he should. If Bush let off the gas in Afghanistan to go into Iraq, how much more has Obama let off the gas everywhere to push his horrible domestic priorities? If the troops are such a priority for Obama (according to his announcement), why has the war effort taken a back seat to pushing Big Government?

  • realskinny

    Bush let the State Dept. run Iraq for several expensive years before putting the military back in charge. And he let the same gang of putzes run Afghanistan will the situation deteriorated.

    Though the level of contempt toward other officials and some superiors justifies removal, there was no insubordination toward the CiC. There was nothing to warrant references to “asserting civilian control” since there was no attempt to assert anything else. Moreover, should the private opinions toward BHO been laudatory, there would be no story.

    The lesson to taken from this is Military officers are entitled to their own political opinions. But, if they are critical of your superiors, make certain they are not publicized.

  • bk
    • acat

      How does Obama square working with the architect of the impossible Iraqi success .. or is this the case where Petraeus gets unreasonable, utterly impossible goals, a really insane ROE, and is bashed a year later for failure to achieve the goals?

      I mean, this is the administration that’s claiming they were told “deep water oil drilling is perfectly safe”… and believed.

      Mew

      • theduck6

        while they are trying to ban deep water (500ft) here they are lending Brazil’s state owned oil Co. 2 billion$ (they are profitable already) where they are likely to drill almost 75% deeper than BP did. OH did I mention Soros is heavily invested in Petrobras? Pure coinkidink, I’m sure?

  • Kayla

    He ought to be fired for stupidity alone. Not only talking to Rolling Stone but letting them hang with him for 2 weeks. C’mon.

    • acat

      It was a rather genius way to go around the POTUS and ask his erstwhile supporters “Do you really want us to lose in Afghanistan?”

      • Kayla

        This doesn’t look like a genius move to me.

        • acat

          Does he want to go down in history as the man who lost Afghanistan, which is where we’re headed if things don’t change, or does he want to be the man who blew the whistle on the neglect and mismanagement of the Obama administration? Remember – McCrystal seems to be a bit of a liberal – he may idolize whistleblowers.

          By going out in this way, the administration *must* address the situation – and they have by bringing in the victor of Iraq. While not a win for McChrystal, it is a win for the armed services – and a shot at a retirement and a public speaking career for McCrystal – not a bad end.

          Time, I think, will tell.

          Mew

  • earlgrey

    took a cheap and untruthful shot at our Supreme court justices! This should not be forgotten. Just becuase we expec this behavior from them does not mean we should forget it.

    • JamesSmith130

      That is about number 1 million on the list of reasons why Obama should go…

      Presidents on both sides have always attacked the Supreme Court when they disagreed with a decision,

    • Common_Cents

      Obama can openly criticize the SC to their faces w/out a forum to reply, but someone dare talk about the one in a negative light has to go!

      Obama’s supporters are jumping ship quickly. Orszag should be the most telling, he knows the budget disaster looming so he is gone. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rahm rumors turn out to be true.

      McChrystal played career death by politician to get out of dodge. I hope he isn’t silenced and leaks some more truth about Obama’s non existent leadership.

  • jimnden

    Does this constitute a demotion for Petraeus?

    • Brian Hibbert

      As I understood it, this is additional responsibilities assigned to Patreaus.

  • JamesSmith130

    but this is probably the best face saving decision that Obama could have made in the short term. He had to fire McChrystal, and David Petraeus is probably the best replacement he could have found.

    In the long term, it is irrelevant, because this administration has no intention to actually listen to the Petraeus or anyone else in the military.

  • Return to Revolution

    NO NO NO! That was General BETRAY-US we hate. We have no problem with General Petraeus. It’s not like we’re hypocrites or something.

  • chuckie

    ….after putting him in charge of afghanistan….???….remember this time last year when people were counting the months……….???….

    …..lol…if only the general had understood that all it takes for an immediate appointment with the CiC is some hurt feelings…..

  • Charles Cianfrocca

    … as a combat vet, that the General should have kept his opinions to himself, I have to say:

    If Obama, or anyone else thinks that any general worth having WOULDN’T know Zero and Biden were jackasses of the highest order as well as, er, what the French were called in the RS article, they are just plain nuts.

    We don’t want Generals who are idiots.

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  • stardalo

    As others have said, McChrystal actually voted for Obama. So, did he think Obama would actually do a better job than McCain in managing Iraq and Afghanistan. We are probably better off with out McChrystal.

  • jprice28

    He should have, but not for the comments in Rolling Stone. He should have been removed for his approach to counterinsurgency. His and Patraeus’s politically-correct, no-collateral-damage-at-all-cost strategy is getting our servicemen and women killed in Afghanistan.

    But of course Obama wouldn’t have fired him for this because he agrees with this approach, which is why he chose Patraeus–the brainchild of this suicidal COIN strategy, to replace McChrystal.

    We’re in trouble in Afghanistan folks if we don’t start focusing on destroying the enemy. Even if we can never fully destroy Islamo-fascism, that should still be the goal!

    The Conservative Beacon

  • jcincy

    Link to the the Rolling Stone Article

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236?RS_show_page=0

    Read this ridiculous nonsense for yourself. It’s filled with rumor and unnamed sources all wrapped up in the author’s opinion. Pathetic.
    A general is losing his job over this garbage. Wow, America is now being led by the diplomatic wing of Rolling Stone.

    What a sad day.

  • kowalski

    In the end I think MacArthur was right on the things he was fired for by Harry Truman. The conventional excuse is that America wouldn’t have tolerated the expansion of the war but it is probably one of the worst Executive decisions ever made.

    We should have prosecuted it according to MacArthur’s perceptions. We sure as hell wouldn’t be owned by the Chinese right now if we had.

  • renny

    The civilian leadership of our military hasn’t a clue, Holbrooke is a Clinton re-tread, the embassador probably raised a lot of campaign money, and our ROE are guaranteed to make the lives of service people more dangerous than in any other hot conflict. Will anything change?

  • DONTREADONME

    makes you have to resign, then there is large number of military personnel who should be turning in there resignation tomorrow. If you think the military brass doesn’t think this president is vapid on military strategy and outright hostile to the uniform then I have some ocean front property in Arizona I’d like to sell you.

    Finally, a moment from the kids who are sleeping…. Man twins with colic is heartbreaking and equally distressing

  • GKC

    This sounds a lot more like Singlaub and Carter to me. I’d be very interested to hear Jack Singlaub’s views on the whole thing. He knows from the inside what it’s like (although in his case there wasn’t an active shooting war on). Also, I’m guessing that he’s not that big a fan of COIN.

  • GKC

    Obama is no Truman.