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There’s Not Much Left To Take Over Now, Mr. President

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By: Dave Poff (haystack) (Diary)  |  June 25th, 2010 at 03:51 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

If WaPo is to be believed, Obama’s takeover of the country is nearly complete… takeover of the private sector by the Federal Bureaucracy, that is. And it’s getting nearly impossible NOT to be cynical, a little bitter, and a LOT disgusted with the way things are going since Bambi took over the reigns from George W. (by God, YES George…we DO miss you) Bush.

There’s no need to list (or link to) all the things now run by (or micromanaged via) the Federal Bureaucracy. There’s little point in mentioning how often our Democrat friends have told us the only way to love a bill is to pass it…so we can find out what’s really IN it. And there’s certainly nothing but wasted energy, and eroded sanity, were any of us to even bother trying to get a copy and read for ourselves that which has already been crammed down our throats…maddening protestations notwithstanding. No, boys and girls, our only role in life in the eyes of Obama and his regime is to take what they give us appreciatively, give what they take from us happily, and smile humbly at the benevolence of our Government and their deep-seated concern for our well-being.

I’m no economist, but even I can see the problem with this statement [emphasis mine]:

A new consumer protection bureau housed in the Federal Reserve would have independent funding, an independent leader and near-total autonomy to write and enforce rules. The government would have broad new powers to seize and wind down large, failing financial firms and to oversee the $600 trillion derivatives market. In addition, a council of regulators, headed by the Treasury secretary, would monitor the financial landscape for potential systemic risks.

The guys that can’t oversee an oil spill in the middle of the Gulf expect us to believe they can manage this much of our Financial sector? The guys that run a budget that keeps going deeper and deeper into debt? The guys that already managed to destroy the jobs market, the automobile industry, the Insurance business, the School loan industry, and soon the Health Care system…and the very same guys that can’t guarantee our security at home, let alone manage and win foreign wars…these very same guys? Really?

Did I miss something?

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  • Tbone

    “The guys that run a budget that keeps going deeper and deeper into debt? “

    • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

      .

  • Common_Cents

    Does America even care? We are getting a biiiiiig azzz lesson in elections have consequences.

    Here’s the quote from Dodd

    “It’s a great moment. I’m proud to have been here,” said a teary-eyed Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), who as chairman of the Senate Banking Committee led the effort in the Senate. “No one will know until this is actually in place how it works. But we believe we’ve done something that has been needed for a long time. It took a crisis to bring us to the point where we could actually get this job done.”

    “NO ONE WILL KNOW UNTIL THIS IS ACTUALLY IN PLACE HOW IT WORKS.”

    Another crisis to take advantage of. crisis begat crisis.

    • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

      nt

    • janis

      But there is so much going on in so many areas that it is almost impossible for many people to keep up– gee, ya think that’s deliberate? For those who are concerned about foreign policy, we have the Middle East (as usual), the Koreas, the rise of anti-semitism with Obama’s encouragement and approval. For the environmentally concerned, there’s the Gulf oil disaster. (And Al Gore’s pants disaster, but that’s another subject entirely.) For the financially concerned, there’s so much that we can’t encompass it in one FP article. For those who are concerned about our rights…… well……. take your pick.

      Not to mention the rise of sharia law right here in the USA. As well as the O administration’s war on Arizona and the suggestion that it would be just spiffy to just declare all those illegals to be legal with the wave of O’s magic Screw-US wand.

      It’s not that not enough care, it’s that none of us knows what to do to stop it NOW. And, yes, Cold Warrior, I know your remedy and I heartily concur. Now then, raise your hands out there if you believe that we’ll actually make it to November! For what’s it worth, I do. What we will find when the next Congress actually is sworn in is a whole ‘nother animal.

      • taxmaiden

        You’ve pretty much captured the landscape in a nutshell. It’s going to be a close call, but I’m ready!!!

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      townhalls, polls and actual elections show that Americans care a whole helluva lot and plan on putting a halt to this dictatorship as fast as elections allow.

  • teapartypatriot

    The irresponsible duo that brought us the sub-prime mortgage crisis, buffoon barney and countrywide dodd, now bring us a double-dip of disaster in this latest d-crat socialist atrocity.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    I guess we’ll lose our country with a collective shrug of the shoulders.

    Sad.

    Pray. Recruit. Repeat.

    Know Democrats, Know Despair
    No Democrats, No Despair

    For Liberty,
    ColdWarrior, PC (that?s ?precinct committeeman,? not ?political child!?)
    Conservatives, UNITE! CHANGE the Republican Party and save the world by UNITING INSIDE the Party as precinct committeemen. NOW! (130 days until Nov. 2 — what are YOU DOING to help get out the vote in your precinct?)

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Depending on the final bill, consumer banking costs will rise, less lending will take place and red ink from any government involvement in our financial system will rise. Disaster is already on the horizon with Sallie Mae.

    Nonetheless, Democrats will continue to wander around OUR capital with fingers up their butts and minds somewhere in uninhabited parts of Idaho- ignoring the call of our countries voters to stop stealing our liberties. They are so crispy-fried in November it will take generations for people to forget how they raped our electorate and ignored the majority of Americans.

    Where the hell is MBeck with that rope?

  • gamechange11two

    Question is, if the people speak loudly enough, and tell them to repeal all of these big government, any-port-in-a-storm style cramdowns, will republicans do it? Will they do the groundwork to prepare full repeal by the next president? Or even do the practical work to keep these laws from fully implementing during the current regime?

    • Scope

      are sent back. Many, many of them are responsible for this disaster that is happening in our country. Not everyone of them will be replaced, and, unfortunately some of those “leaders” of the R’s will take the senior positions on committes that will destroy us further. Come on guys, we are trying our dangdest to get better R Congresscritters, but really, how many will have any say in those hallowed halls. I’m about at wits end, especially with Collins, Snowe and Brown voting to bring the Banking Reform bill onto the floor. If these are really the best representatives we can expect from New England, then I say let the D’s have the seats. At least the D’s wouldn’t be able to call their sick sorry ass bills “bipartisan”, and tie the R’s into their takeover of this country.

      • gamechange11two

        That’s a bridge too far, most likely, but polling seems to keep shifting right. We’ll see.

        The big thing now is reminding the stupid party why they got the boot in the first place (It’s the failure follow through on commitments to shrink the size and scope of the government, Stupid), and making it crystal clear in their bitty brains that 2010 is an up or down vote on socialism by the U.S. taxpayers.

        The candidates should be holding a lot of town halls this August. It will be the time to drive it home that the citizens are done. If it isn’t fixed next year, things will likely be taken to the streets. Then Chris Matthews will really have something to bloviate about, assuming his job hasn’t been eliminated by central planning.

    • Scope

      This absolutely gets to the major problems in this country. I really could care less that Michael Jackson’s death was a year ago today, or that yet another D made another racist comment. Those come daily, and have lost the interest of many, at least the R’s.

      I appreciate your reporting, and staying with the red meat. Thank you sir.

      • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

        n/t

  • Kayla

    Are any Repub Senators voting for this? If all 41 stick together, a BIG IF, then it can be defeated.

    • mcl2177

      They will pick off one.

    • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

      …

      • acat

        The Northeast doesn’t seem to get it some days…

        Mew

        • From ME to You

          I will report on her office’s reply when I get it!

          I must say that I was NOT surprised by the yes votes by the two D Reps from Maine. (Pingree ME-1 and Michaud ME-2)

      • Scope

        to everyone here that wanted an R in the seat, and, to all of the so-called Tea Partiers that supported him. I’d say that when he comes up for re-election he will never ever have the support he had in his election. Just voting for someone with an R after their name is usually fatal. If Brown doesn’t prove that then we are in trouble. He is totally intimidated by the unions, and with his vote today, obviously Harry Reid. The big ole Scott Brown is proving to be a wimp, when it comes to even barely Republican ideas.

        • snowshooze

          And as the cooler heads around here say…going in the right direction even a little…is a good thing

        • swami7774

          http://bostonherald.com/business/general/view/20100626scott_brown_blasts_financial_bill_disappointed_in_19b_bank_tax/srvc=home&position=1

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • snowshooze

            I read your link, and I am always amazed that the Democrats always scream about the banks and the sub-prime mortgage meltdown..
            when that was their baby, their idea and their design.
            Yet they never mention NEVER….not ever mention that little fact.
            So far as Brown goes, like the grownups around here say..
            he’s a good start, and we should be thankful for that.

  • mcl2177

    Why would the Obama and the democrats do this if they know that one day the people that they despise will be in control of this very powerful bueracracy they have created and will be able to use it against them! You could argue that we really live in a 1 party system and the Republicans are all for it and what we see in the media is really just a shell game, which is a theory I could believe. Or we have not seen yet what Obama and his minions are willing to do to stay in power and that my friends is Very Very Very Scary!!!!!!! Can I say Reichtstag Fire for those of you that know what I’m talking about!!

    • pamela1631

      To be honest, we are reaping what was sowed ages ago through our own complacency.

      I pray there are volunteer fire departments standing ready, because there would have to be fact finding commissions and bi-partisan committees before one siren sounded or drop of water left the hydrant under this administration.

  • pamela1631

    All I can say is they better REPEAL everything passed under this Idiot Congress.

    And clean house on every agency.

  • Old_Crow

    Most them need to be thrown out with the bath water.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Every conservative who stayed home in 2008 to punish John McCain actually just punished America.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • Old_Crow

        needs to be removed from office.
        No more middle-of-the-road “work with the democrats” types.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          As long as you’re also committed to keeping those Democrats out of power to begin with.

          Conservative in the primary, Republican in the general.

          That means backing the “RiNO” every time in the general.

      • klondike

        I don’t know a single conservative who hadn’t been angry about our trifecta Republican Congress + Republican Administration opportunity completely blown. We had an opportunity to show America was conservatism truly was, yet the Republicans voted and spent like liberals. I was angrier with them than I was with the Dems, because they allegedly represented ME. I was as angry as everyone else. I, too, was tired of voting against a candidate rather than for a candidate. As much as I did not think McCain was a Republican, I DID vote for him because I had researched his opponent thoroughly and knew, without a doubt, that BO was far worse for this country than even HRC.

        Don’t get me wrong, I have entertained thoughts of not voting in order to get it through to the thick skulls of the RNC and Republican politicians that they no longer represent conservative principles, and I’ve had some pretty decent rants. It felt good, I needed to do it, and I have no regrets. But I voted.

        Now, my Public Enemy No. 1 is the Republican (i.e., alleged conservative) who, out of embecile protest, decides to sit out the election and not vote.

        • snowshooze

          And we need more like us.
          Sick of the BS.

      • Lloyd Davis

        …………………………………………………………………………………………..

        When you can?t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.

        -Ronald Reagan

        • gamechange11two

          won’t make that mistake again. By my reckoning, that’s a lot of votes.

        • gamechange11two

          won’t make that mistake again. By my reckoning, that’s a lot of votes.

  • snowshooze

    I heard the Federal Government was looking at requiring a Federal Fishing Licenses to fish in the ocean!
    Ok, you don’t need one now and this is small by comparison..
    But since you asked.
    ColdWarrior mentions no significant uptick in conservatives joining up with the Republicans. It is painfully obvious why that is happening.
    Really, a lot of my friends are so turned off at the lack of spine in the party just cannot get motivated.
    ” I am a proud member of the Republican Party, and we just exist to suck up to the Independent Party because we are too lame to stand up on our own back feet ”
    My luck thus far in talking to them about becoming a PC is zip.nada. nothing. Looks like an exclusive club with secret handshakes and decoder rings.
    Well, I will be there to behead the leadership if at last I get my foot in the door.
    Honestly, we are in a civil war. A very real one at that. No bullets, but ideals, and right now we are getting our tails kicked hard. Until the Republican Party has the guts to cross the isle with a gun and a knife to collect scalp the way they were sent to do….they will never be able to gain the respect of the broad base from which they came again.
    Yeah, I am a bit ambivalent. Every time I vote I worry it is just for another gutless wonder.
    The good thing is, since I have been hanging around with you guys, I have started making waves and doing some serious complaining. Written a ton of e-mails, and paid more attention than ever.
    Otherwise Dave, you are spot on!

  • trutexan

    “It’s all going to hell in a handbasket.”

    C’mon Nov 2012!!!

    • trutexan
  • Carol Tarasewicz

    It seems like 20 years ago, but it has only been three or four when we called to complaiin about amnesty for illegals, but they listened, We called about Harriet Myers on the Supreme Court, she withdrew. Those were days when we counted.

    Now I feel as if I have made 100 calls (yes I did) about healthcare and we got ignoredd. It’s time to throw them all out ASAP!

    These clowns work for us, if they don’t care what we have to say on issues, it is time to fire them.

    • gamechange11two

      Yes we lost (for now) on the health care cramdown, but we made it holy hell for Pelosi and Reid to get it through, and not one republican voted for it. We did that.
      How many times did team B tell us it was the end game and time to get this done? He didn’t give the hundred-umpteenth speech on this legislation by choice. We forced him into that corner.
      When he announced, after Brown’s, election that the administration would remain focused “laser-like” on jobs, he showed himself to be another Nero-type by refusing to put the bill down for a while. We made him do that by giving him a loss which he could not accept.
      As the polls show, the electorate’s faith in this president is in free fall now, because enough people are figuring out that he isn’t an administrator, he’s an ideologue with an agenda and the real job is a distraction. We have finally gotten that message through to at least half of the voters.
      The republicans are listening. They have eyes and ears. Is it going to be us or the special interests when they get back in? Yeah, that’s the burning question. Our voices had an impact this last year. With a majority we will not only be heard, we will be impossible to ignore.
      Pump up the volume!

  • http://www.inthisdimension.com inthisdimension

    … But it probably will be too late.

    It’s nice to pretend the GOP cares what the voters think
    … But they don’t.

    It’s nice to pretend that we’ll still be a constitutional republic by 2012.
    But that’s already gone.

    And it’s nice to pretend that constitutional governmentcan be reclaimed non-violently

    But those days, too, are past, as far distant in time as the ability to stop Iran from getting a nuke.

    And it’s nice to pretend that this country isn’t worth fighting for, as RS does by preaching talk and vote and talk and vote some more

    But that’s no different from being a RINO — just pro-America in words only.

    It’s gonna take more than that. The idea we will be allowed to – or will toss enough incumbents to – really change the system is just fantasy.

    It’s a binary decision: America is worth fightng for… Or not.

    Which will it be?

    • Joliphant

      The last time we went through that, we were nearly a century recovering from it.

      • http://www.inthisdimension.com inthisdimension

        The assumption of a new Civil War is predicated on the fantasy that Pelosi and MoveOn would spend one dime or one life to keep Conservatives in the Union.

        Never happen.

        Whether adults secede from or “eject” the Blue states, the Blues will never fight – they never do. Even in the Civil War, northern “Copperheads” – democrats – demanded to stop fighting ( leaving slavery and secession in place) once the fighting became “too hard.”

        some things never change.

        And the while the left will fight to take your money and your vote, they’ll never fight to restore a divided union.

        • snowshooze

          Same battle lines…States VS Federal Government.
          Plus a bunch of new exciting additions.
          Not a lot of shooting going on and I am glad for that, we wouldn’t stand a chance.
          The left has won a lot of battles recently and this has been a call to arms for us all. They have been making ground for a good long time and they think they have in in their grasp to finally make the last offensive in the current Big Grab surge.
          There are battles on every front. National Security, Immigration, Debt and Taxation without representation…election law, States Rights and Federal Duties.. banking Reform, Health Reform, this Reform and that ( overwhelming force… they bury us in BS ) everything is in play.
          All our freedoms and rights, every single one are in jeopardy right now.
          Our freedom of speech is very high on the target list, with internet censorship and net neutrality in plain sight.
          Plus, the new Atomic Bomb…the internet kill switch.
          Yeah, one button to bring down the entire net instantly at the sole discretion of our President. ( Oh boy! )
          I wonder if they will put in a suitcase so the President is never more than a few seconds away from being able to launch… kind of like the ” Football ” Nuclear Missile strike switch. ( I am sure Obama is just dying to get it…)( Heck, they will put it on his blackberry)
          We don’t have a viable alternative to what we have here, but of course they have their independent networks that would not be affected.
          Anywaaay…. the Civil War is happening. It’s on. It’s here.

          • http://www.inthisdimension.com inthisdimension

            A) we have all the guns. Perhaps you’ve forgotten but this is why and how we won the Revoution
            B) national guards belong to the states, and TX has the largest
            C) you assume the army would not split and/or not support secession by those states supporting the Constitution – may not be a valid assumption

            Those Americans believing in the Constitution sooner or later will need to get serious about defending it. “It is already too late to be sooner, and soon it will be too late to be later…”

          • snowshooze

            I was never in the military..
            but a year or so back I went to shoot with the boys at a casual defensive shooting gathering, with walk through bad guy courses, speed draw stuff…all that
            And the other guys were cops and guards and military active and retired..
            Wow…I never knew….those guys were great. I wouldn’t want to take ANY of them on and to think I thought I was accomplished with firearms…
            Well, ok I am, a very good shot with everything but ( can ya believe it ?) a shotgun. I am a flop at skeet and trap. Just don’t do it enough I guess.
            But their particular discipline… it is an art form unto itself.
            Military firepower is scary as heck.
            And I understand you point, on the battlefield, the Hillbillies have the home field advantage, their brothers would defect in a heartbeat and we don’t play fair. Yep, we cud bring down a 20 million dollar chopper with ten cents wortha haywire… ( As demonstrated by the Afghan Hillbillies, them boys are tough…)
            But I still can’t see that war. I see the war of creeping ( Now Leaping) dilution of our rights and liberties, and the onslaught of massive regulations, reforms , generational theft … loss by complacency ..alllat stuff. It’s hard for us commoners to get our teeth into a court battle or even read one of the bills they are pushing. I took a stab at the health care reform bill, and while I could understand what I was reading…

            (refer to section V title 6, section III section XVII as pertaining to the above, under the proposed ” Those clauses, 4, 17 and 27-32 notwithstanding shall be ruled as under the uniform code …. see section C pertaining to the aforementioned regulatory standards ( where applicable) under the Industry standards division, title 9 as amended D.4 2006 …)

            We Hillbillies…speshly us Alaska Boys…ain’t wortha dang on this battlefield. It ain’t our kinda fightin’
            Too bad because that is the front line, and I am unfit for battle on it. Our 10 cent chunka haywire don’t work fer nuthin’ an ye jus can’t shoot it.
            So the best I can do is hang around with all you malcontents and rebels…and toss my efforts into backing champions for the cause…pray they are true..( Boy..is that all uphill or what???) and complain. a lot. to every representative I have.
            The guverment don’t wanna kill the slaves…just control ‘em ‘else theyd hafta do they own wurk. an’ they too lazy.
            They got us on their home ground, they keep changing the rules and we all scramblin’
            So you are 100% correct. At least until they believe we are pretty much disarmed, they would never want that option.
            Regulation is cheaper, quieter, more effect and highly profitable.
            And the masses are too dumb to win.

            The Wardens code…
            ” There shall be always be plenty of game for the King and all his men so long as we, the Wardens are vigilant and keep the Peasants from the forest”

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      it will probably be done, if at all, in response to a particular incidence of ObamaDem overreach or by Libs instigating violence as they lose more and more power as a consequence of their policy failures.

      But, what would you have us do now that you define as “fight”?

      Seriously.

      I have called for massive MLK-style civil disobedience.

      I do think that unlike 1861, this time the federal government fired on Fort Sumter. This really would be a war of Northern Aggression given Obama’s home is in Chicago.

      • snowshooze

        You are published just like a real commentator!
        Ok, Concede, you are one.
        How about a link to your call to civil disobedience? Did you get one printed? I would like to read it.
        Thanks,
        Mark

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Atlanta-Law–Politics-Examiner~topic549477-civil-disobedience?selstate=allcat#breadcrumb

          • snowshooze

            I was concerned you were going off the deep end but this isn’t bad.
            The smoking bar reminds me of the time that me and my buddy went through the mall to get something…smoking…
            Yeah, the sign said ” Thank you for not smoking”
            We figured..well don’t thank us… Upon being advised of the regulation..our uniform response was…ok it wasn’t uniform..
            I said ” Whaddya… some kinda cop?\
            Buddy says…Why doncha call the cigarett police?
            I say…I pay more taxes than you deadbeats anyway…blow off.
            Ya.. beer involved.. and it was a long time back.
            But i this type of juvenile protest will not fix anything.
            Notice the Bar Owner had a contribution jar for fines and legal defense? That equates to contributing to the delinquency of the government. Not fighting it. And he is winning by percentage or he would retreat.
            Yes, the Civil War is at the ballot box. God help us all we might have a chance there. I do not wish to have to train my babies to spill the blood of man. Nothing could be worse.

    • ocleverone

      Pro American in words only? You obviously haven’t been reading any of Cold Warrior posts. You have made the assumption that it’s over and that by working within the confines of the electoral system is no different from being a RINO.

      You insult every activist here. You can Eeyore all you want, cry doom and subtly suggest a call to arms. Go right ahead. Your prerogative but the fight ain’t over yet at the ballot box.

      Why do you think people write on this site? To hear themselves talk? No, it is to get people engaged and ready for November. Why do you think Ron Robinson and Cold Warrior and many others are galvanizing the voters? It’s because it is OUR elections and that is the path to stopping this madness – not a call to arms. We have the process to remove these yahoos and if we circumvent it, then we are no better than they are.

      If the process is taken away, then it becomes a different story. I don’t see that happening. In 2004 and 2008, I heard liberals rumoring that Bush was going to suspend elections – how did that work out?

      November DOES matter more than ever. I see conservatives hitting the voting booth and sending a message louder than any shot. But that will only happen if people engage, get active and get out the vote.

      I salute Cold Warrior for his work. He inspired me to start another program within our committee – the Ballot Integrity program. And you know what? I had more volunteers for poll watching training than I had precincts.

      Please don’t ever assume or call RSers RINOs – most of us are busting our backsides IRL to make sure the system is preserved.

      What have you done?

  • snowshooze

    We’re having a great time with it!
    Thanks,
    Mark