What Better Way to Signal the World You “Get It?” – Hire Washington Insiders!


So, expecting to pick up a number of seats by “newbies,” what do GOP leaders in Washington want to ensure? They want “GOP insiders to staff outsiders,” according to Roll Call. Eric Cantor’s staff added, “There’s a lot of important work to get done right out of the gate, so it’s important that newly elected Republicans have access to experienced, competent staff so that they can hit the ground running.”

According to Roll Call, “[a] Republican aide confirmed leadership’s interest in having staff that works well with Boehner to move the agenda forward.” And even better, the lobbyists and strategists are in on the act, as well – one lobbyist saying, “[y]ou want to be sure that the newbies, when they hit town, do not necessarily bring their campaign staff to run their Congressional offices, because in some cases they are totally ill-equipped.”

Having worked on the Hill, I can tell you that new members would be better off telling leadership to stuff it.
Of course (as anyone would understand), it’s good to have at least some experience in the office. I do not begrudge the desire of a new member to seek experienced staffers to complement their loyal folks from home who will come with them. Most offices end up with a mix of both.

But that’s not really what this is about at its core. This is about making sure the “newbies” do not rock the boat and get with the program… the Washington establishment’s program. The staff that the establishment will “suggest” to the new members will be the same freaking idiots who have been bouncing around the Hill forever and will be more likely to go along to get along – to continue the same way Washington has been working forever. Just take a look at top Republican offices – they are a bunch of re-treads from years past, Administrations past – and for those of us who have been in the trenches fighting for conservatism, let me just say that we have more often been fighting against them than with them.

And worse yet, of all the possibilities in Washington, the ratio of bad staff to good staff is overwhelmingly high. Right now, let’s say Republicans pick up 8 seats in the Senate, for example. We would need to find 24 staffers to fill the Chief of Staff, Legislative Director and Communications Director jobs – usually the top three jobs in the office. I honestly have a hard time coming up with 24 actual, Constitution-respecting, limited government believing, God-fearing conservatives to fill those roles. I really do. Now, try to find staff for 50+ new House members?

We do need members to have good conservative staff. Leadership is correct that staff is important. And to get the job done, the new members will need them – so they should look to actual conservatives to find those staffers. They should reach out to the Republican Study Committee in the House, the Senate Steering Committee in the Senate, the Heritage Foundation, the Leadership Institute, or just call a conservative (current or former) members they trust to find the few veterans conservative staffers that exist and hire those folks to complement their own teams from “outside” (i.e. from America). Under no circumstances should any new member 1) take the kool-aid drinking hacks that leadership “recommends,” or 2) send their new, fresh staffers from home into the Lion’s den only to be co-opted by those same leadership folks without some reinforcement from actual conservatives who have been there.

This ain’t rocket science, you just need a few smart conservatives who believe in freedom and limited government, and are willing to stand up and fight. Use the judgment that got you there – not the judgment of a bunch of lifetime politicians and staffers who have been partly culpable in driving the country into the ditch.


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The Beltway Republicans will not give up until

kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 11:56AM EDT (link)

we ELIMINATE them. That might take 3 election cycles, but it will happen.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

unless....

jccbin (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 12:16PM EDT (link)

….

 
 

glad you're on top of this issue...

jenniferjmilleresq Tuesday, October 26th at 12:20PM EDT (link)

Maybe Jim DeMint would help them find good people. One genuine conservative with experience can lead the way in an office of smart loyal, yet untrained staffmembers.

 

The hard part

congressworksforus (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 12:21PM EDT (link)

Is that who in their right mind wants to go work in the cesspool…

Remember, if the left wins, abortion will not only be legal, it will be mandatory.

Amen

edintexas Wednesday, October 27th at 9:37AM EDT (link)

This is the truly sad part too. How do you convince “normal” citizens to move to, and work, in that place. It is why we have such difficulty in finding decent Conservative candidates willing to run. There are lots of Conservatives, but those willing to run are far, far fewer.

 
 

Why not just keep the Democrat staffers in place.

Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 12:43PM EDT (link)

I’m sure they would be very comfortable working with the existing Republican leadership and they have already been bought and paid for by the lobbyists.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

Objectivity

vidiveritas Tuesday, October 26th at 12:56PM EDT (link)

When Objectivity rules everybody is a winner.

Picture yourself as a new CEO taking the helm of a corporation where everybody lies–the accounting dept. lies, the finance dept lies, the sales dept, lies, the marketing dept., lies and the customer service dept lies.

If things remain the same, how long will that corporation last, or how long will the country last?

Telling lies, even preposterous lies and repeating them over and over to make people believe them may benefit a demagogic politician, but will you and the country benefit?

Why is it that demagogues never crunch the numbers or present you with the facts? Hanging onto a narrow minded ideology is like driving a car on the gasoline fumes in the tank..

Be objective, crunch those numbers, and vote, not only for your own personal interests, but the interests of your family, neighbor, co-worker, and your community.
If you vote just on the hot button emotional issues, you may be a suicide voter for yourself and others.

They do use "facts", it's just that

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 6:07AM EDT (link)

they make them up as they go along, e.g. Joe Biden’s claim that we are spending 200 billion of foreign money on election advertising, or Obummer’s claim to have “saved or created” whatever number of jobs comes out of his mouth today.

 
 

Amen!

razshafer (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 1:00PM EDT (link)

Sending insurgent conservatives to congress and then saddling them with establishment staff will hobble the momentum that the American people have created.

For Liberty,
-Raz Shafer

 

Lucky for U.S.

mkozikowski (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 1:06PM EDT (link)

The next wave of replacements are just 2 years away.

These bone heads just don’t get it. It is hard to believe, but they don’t get it.

We don’t want a seamless meshing of new with old. We The People are looking for new and fresh. Toss the political machine and start over.

Next cycle, more house and another 1/3 of the Senate will be held accountable. They will be swept aside for new bodies to protect the old ideas of ‘life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happienss’.

 

Nice hogan. Rush just picked up on this. nt

deano64 (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

Precinct Committeeman before it was cool.

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Alexis De Tocqueville

 

What's the hurry?

vamoose Tuesday, October 26th at 2:25PM EDT (link)

“There’s a lot of important work to get done right out of the gate”

Like what? Elect a new speaker? Pass legislation without reading it? I for one would like a slower pace in Washington.

I don’t want newly elected House members to be outsourcing their offices to the GOP leadership. Boehner and Cantor need to listen to what the newbies have to say to them, not the other way around.

 

I don't want insiders providing leadership or staffing.

Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 4:54PM EDT (link)

If we take over the House, is it a foregone conclusion that Boehner is elected Speaker? I intend to tell my representative that I want new leadership at the helm.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)

 

The Conservative Congressional Caucus

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 6:02PM EDT (link)

should be another source of help.

Michelle Bachman says they will be contacting the new members. I don’t know if this is the same as her Tea Party Caucus, but she talked to Gelnn Beck about it this morning.

This is a difficult problem for new members who aren’t already well connected. Look how hard it’s been for Obama to find competent advice at all levels, and there are liberals lying in every opium den in DC.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 

RIGHT the **** ON, Bro !!!

america1st (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 7:07PM EDT (link)

The Chafee, Jeffords, McAmnesty, Gregg, etc. “moderate” Republicans (read: spineless RINOs) have been & remain almost as much a problem as the vilely verminous dims. We are sending in a new team – we don’t want them corrupted and weakened by this “reach across the aisle” nonsense. There is no common cause – as zero said today, we are the “enemy” and I personally consider that an honor, a compliment, because zero and its myrmidons are surely mine.

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

 

So maybe I should stop donating and working

woodbridgeva (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 8:57PM EDT (link)

I used to be one of those staffers. like many others, I came to DC as part of the Reagan wave and am proud of it. There are a multitude of us who were in the arena fighting when others were sitting home. We won some and lost some. We put up with the RINOS, celebrated the hard core, took half a loaf when that was all we could get and came back later for the rest. If Hogan can’t find enough conservative staffers to fill out the new offices, he either hasn’t looked very hard or didn’t actually spend much time in the “right” places.

I no longer work on the Hill but I keep my hand in by donating money where I can and volunteering as much time as possible. Apparently the large crowd of angry activists who were no where to be found for most of the Clinton and Bush years feels that is not enough. Having remained silent while others were fighting their battles for them, they finally come forth in rage to threaten retribution on those who had the audacity to actually try to govern using conservative principles because the results have not measured up to the exalted standards of the armchair generals and Monday morning quarterbacks.

I leave tomorrow morning to burn off some of my vacation time campaigning for three different tea party candidates at my own expense. But right now, I am wondering why I bother. Apparently the new conservatives neither need nor want my help. After all I bear the mark of shame for actually devoting a career to Ronald Reagan’s call to craft a government the will walk beside us and not ride on our backs. What greater crime could I have committed? Obviously, I should unpack my bags and stay home.

I would, except I remember the words of St Paul that the race goes not to the swift but to those who endure to the end. Over 90 percent of today’s angry mob will be nowhere to be found in 24 to 36 months. But those of us who persist may actually see Reagan’s dream moved forward just a bit by our efforts sometime before retirement.

Not Spending time in the "Right" Places

hogan (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 9:56PM EDT (link)

Respectfully, I spent over 5 years on the Hill, and I know a little bit about the “right” places. The vast majority of staffers are neck-deep in the kool-aid, and wouldn’t know the “right” places if you gave them a Garmin.

God Bless you for your work if what you say is true. I will take you for your word. And good for you for going out to work on some races, that’s great.

But, my point here remains. The establishment wants establishment staff in these new offices. Period. And that is unacceptable if we are going to change the way Washington works.

 

Not all of us in the "angry mob"

america1st (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 10:10PM EDT (link)

. . . have been sitting on the sidelines over the past decades. I’ve been working in campaigns since grade school when I stuffed envelopes for Ike in ’56. I simply became ever more angry and less tolerant of the left over the intervening years as I saw & experienced the harm they were visiting on our Republic. Many of your (& others’) suggested actions don’t work for me – I’m simply too furious to speak to the leftist enemy. As a friend noted several years ago “I will no longer debate a liberal because I feel they are beneath contempt. Just communicating with one contaminates a person.” Personally, I think he was being entirely too tolerant.

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

 

You have done much good

kestrel (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 10:13PM EDT (link)

and continue to do so. Thank you.

Without Reagan’s example, we would have a far harder road than we do. Everyone who worked with him was part of that tremendous success. It provided the proof of sound economics, dethroned Keynes, etc., and showed the way to success in so many areas, not least — how to deal successfully with foreign adversaries.

Some RedStaters are talking about Isaiah the prophet tonight, so I’m reminded of one of my own favorite passages that I go to when I feel like you seem to be feeling tonight, Isaiah 49, summarized in verse 4. God bless you, Woodbridgeva!

 
 

Balancing trade offs

drfredc Tuesday, October 26th at 9:16PM EDT (link)

Practically speaking, the real issue is if you’ve got a RINO staffer helping out a newbie, but no reciprocation with a Tea Party staffing interning in the RINO office, you’ve got RINO spies in the Tea Party offices, but no Tea Party spies in the RINO offices. This is BAAAADDDD…. Sort of like having the opposing team having a headset to your offensive and defensive coaches during a game.

Ideal Reality — if you have some experienced (RINO) staff filling newbie staff positions, that also means there will be equal number of openings in the RINO office staffing.

Seems what should be done is for every ‘experienced’ staff a newbie picks up (temporarily), the newbie should get one of their staff to intern in the old school office. Then after 4 or 6 months, they’d return home (if deemed desirable).

Ideally, some of the Tea Party conservatism would rub off in both locations.

Minimally, it would require the RINO Losership to be open and transparent about working with (rather than spying on and obsfucating) the newbies (Tea Party), or they’d be exposed.

Always, Fred C

 

Please don't stop working. THe country needs you.

earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, October 26th at 9:22PM EDT (link)

angy mobs. I don’t really consider myself to be an angry mobster myself, now that I am involved with GOTV efforts.

IWe all don’t agree on everything on this site, but we should remember that we are fighting for the same ideas.

Your service is appreaciated. We can’t make judgements about those in the Reagan era based on the failures of Clinton & Bush. I wasn’t politcally aware when Reagan was President, but it seems to me that there are many more regular people this time who understand the dangeers of big govt, rather than just loving a man who has a gift for both communicating and governing ( a rare combination).

Do you agree that there are more in the general public that are seeking out to understand conservative vs. socialist policy? Do you think that counts for anything?

Thanks for your support=

 

GOP understanding of TEA party

talgus Tuesday, October 26th at 9:24PM EDT (link)

Is more a problem with the staff than the elected officials. My guess is the staff are more entrenched and actually running the show.
EX: bad choices by the NRSC seemed more a staff thing than Cornyn.

 

Its pretty simple.

mirac777 (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 6:47AM EDT (link)

This doesnt have to come down to a brawl here. Teaparty folks, bring in your own staffers! Fresh minds all around! All this talk about “experience” doesnt impress me one bit! Especially since that experience has proven to be a huge failure in Congress. How hard is it to have your staff read the damn bills? Then vote with your head and heart instead of being told how to vote. That is why we have a Taeparty today isn’t it?
It isnt so complicated. No earmarks! No more spending! Cut the govt down to size. The hell with the old Guard! Work for the good people of this country to get our economy going again. No more adding crap into the bills that doesnt belong there! Stop slandering hard working people who need SSI, and have paid into it for 40 years as “Entitlements” and put that back where it belongs: On the welfare class, who dont work a day in their lives! Sucking money from working people for 40 years, then calling them beggers, just because our corruptocrats have spent the money on welfare is ludicrous!

United we stand…. Divided we fall.. into the pits of Socialism.

 

Socialism = Communism

eph511 Wednesday, October 27th at 7:41AM EDT (link)

You are a RINO. Stop the pity party. We do not need Reagan’s dream to move forward “just a bit–” those days are OVER. We have a communist revolution taking place right before our eyes and the alert tea party red-blooded Americans know this. Over 70 members of Congress on the Democrat side are members of the “Democratic Socialists of America” group–I saw their names on the DSA website. They have since been removed because I exposed it on “The Hill” about a year ago. Socialism = Communism. Here is a short video to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMDghS7S5tE. Truth hurts.

 

...or populate Republican Leadership with the worst we have to offer.

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 8:30AM EDT (link)

My head exploded when I read this. Here is an excerpt;

One leader of the GOP’s centrist faction has been striking a tougher tone as he seeks to become chairman of the energy panel. “It is the constitutional duty of the House of Representatives to provide a check on the power of the executive branch,” said Rep. Fred Upton (R., Mich.). Earlier, Mr. Upton had split from GOP leaders and supported the Obama administration’s efforts to expand children’s health care and federal regulation of tobacco.

or perhaps this outtake on who would lead the House Appropriations Committee;

The leading candidates for the panel’s chairmanship, Reps. Jerry Lewis (R., Calif.) and Rep. Harold Rogers (R., Ky.), are longtime members of the panel who have been stalwart defenders of earmarks, which allowed lawmakers to direct money to local projects outside the normal federal funding system.

If this is what will happen in January, I might as well extend the lease on my rural getaway. It will be the foremost sign NOTHING has changed except the party affiliation on the Majority Leader’s door.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

We need to realize ...

cam1 Wednesday, October 27th at 9:56AM EDT (link)

that if the Republicans veer from true conservative, constitutional and earmark free government over the next two years and put Obama in the position of vetoing the overturn of Obamacare that the country will be “fundamentally transformed”. Our debt is a cancer that has put us at the mercy of Communist China.

And remember that the Tea Party did not join the Republican party. The Tea Party doesn’t need the Republican party to thrive. They need us to survive.

The Tea Party will not go away. Not now … not any more

 

Excellent!

storminwgfp Wednesday, October 27th at 10:34AM EDT (link)

I’ll forward this to a great friend running. Tom Watson; CA 23
www.watson4congress.com

 

Fire the RINOs and good ol boys/girls

ac7880 Wednesday, October 27th at 12:37PM EDT (link)

After this election, we will need to clean out at least 20 RINOs to make our point heard loud and clear. The “good ol boys and girls” will have to be FIRED to make our point!

You RINOs and “old school” arrogant elitists best shape up because if you don’t I guarantee we will SHIP YOU OUT!

 

No more Boners

ac7880 Wednesday, October 27th at 12:43PM EDT (link)

Boehner (Boner) has to go.

G'bye

Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 12:45PM EDT (link)

It’s clear what your purpose is here, but we have elections to win.

RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules

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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

I am slow on the draw today. NT

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 12:46PM EDT (link)
 
 

Part of the problem in Wahington is that too many people do

ihateliberals Wednesday, October 27th at 1:08PM EDT (link)

have experience. The leadership of the Republican party still does’t get it.. we want change and we want the party to understand that we the people re in charge not them. This needing experience is nothing more than a bunch of “Male Bovine Feces”. What we really need to do is replace the people behind the scene as much as the candidates themselves. If we don’t star doing something about this government it will fail and we wil be lost. i know that no government on earth has lasted forever so i suspect this one will fail at some point but i never dreamed it would be in my life time. I thought people were smarter now but it seems they get dumber as each class gradutes from college.

 

Thanks Woodbridge

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 5:52PM EDT (link)

I first wanted to extend my thanks to woodbridge for his hard work over the years. I think a lot of folks in the grassroots have trouble acknowledging that there have large groups of great figures and staff on the right that just haven’t been large enough to really pass legislation without the help of RINOs and sometimes conservative dems(case in point reagan tax cuts).

These great people usually find themselves as members of groups like the republican study committee where until 06 were a minority within the GOP itself. In my personal opinion, there is no reason why many newbies wouldn’t get along with the RSC members.

The answer to this is simple bring a lot of your staff with you, and talk to some congressman or organizations you trust to fill in some of the staffing needs. The newbies are going to need at least 2 staffers that are familiar with process of writing an amendment, parliamentary procedure, etc.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

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http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

wonkish1- A big part of your argument

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 7:17PM EDT (link)

is in still believing that there is such an animal as a “conservative democrat.” At one time there was something called “Blue Dog Democrats.” With the current Obama administration, and his taskmasters Pelosi and Reid, they no longer exist. The so-called fiscally conservative Democrats never left the Pelosi/Reid reservation, and voted for every fiscally irresponsible bills such as Financial Reform, Stimulus, the Jobs bill, and of course every bill that extends unemployment benefits, now even beyond 99 weeks. The so-called Democrats that were in opposition to abortion, well, look to Stupak, and the coalition he held together, until he signaled his approval to vote in favor of Ocare, which includes federally funded abortions. Your grandfathers Democrat party no longer exists, and, has been replaced with Progressive masters, and the puppets that are obligated to vote how they are told.

As to the RINO’s that you think are still necessary, in order to move legislation forward, would you agree that the current RINOS, namely Collins, Snowe and Brown were correct in voting for the Federal Government takeover of the Financial industry? Do you also think it is necessary to move some of the most Liberal, anti-Constitutional judges forward, because as Lindsey Graham said, “Obama deserves to get his choices confirmed, because he is the President.” Were the Democrats as kind in voting for Bush’s nominees?

It seems that you may be living in “the good old days” with your ideas as to the staffing of the newbies. If the newbies, and those that got them to Washington, are not capable of quickly learning the “ways of the House”, I’m sure they are more than learnable, and, very quickly. I personally prefer as many new faces, and, voices, which are untainted by the old guard as possible. No need to stick with same old failed policies, different day, which seems to me to be the goal.

that wasnt apart of my argument at all

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 7:57PM EDT (link)

My 1st point is that in the past 20 years there have been good conservative members of congress. And we have to be careful not to lump them and their staffs in with “the establishment.” To do so would be to say that congressman like Mike Pence and Demint are apart of “the establishment.”

And this is coming from a person that has defined myself as an anti-establishment reform conservative before that became popular. I used to tell people when they decried the Bush years that, “I don’t consider myself apart of the establishment defenders that defend the Bush administration. I’m a reform conservative and we’ve only had power from 94 to 98.” It was good to see everybody else on our side came around to my sentiments.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

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http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

 

and I hate RINOs dont ever accuse me of that.

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 8:00PM EDT (link)

I have always vehemently disliked RINOs. All I’m saying is that when there was a lot of RINOs there were also a lot of good conservatives in congress. Don’t tarnish their legacy by lumping them in with the RINOs.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

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http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

re reading my post i can now see how

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 8:39PM EDT (link)

Someone could misinterpret my point. My apologies.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

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http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

wonkish1- Your original comment

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 9:02PM EDT (link)

was not misinterpreted by me at all. In your later comments, you have turned your original arguments completely around. Glad to see that you are willing to change your mind, and, in a better direction.

It’s kinda hard to misinterpret-

“I think a lot of folks in the grassroots have trouble acknowledging that there have large groups of great figures and staff on the right that just haven’t been large enough to really pass legislation without the help of RINOs and sometimes conservative dems(case in point reagan tax cuts).”

no i didnt "turn it around"

wonkish1 (Diary) Thursday, October 28th at 4:55PM EDT (link)

I was making the exact same point throughout my comments, but hey I guess maybe you know me better than I do.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

Conservative Innovations I Want To See Succeed
http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

 

allow me to show you.

wonkish1 (Diary) Thursday, October 28th at 5:05PM EDT (link)

“Large groups of people on the right” “that were forced to work with Rino’s and sometimes conservative dems”. Okay who could I have been talking about “on the right” that weren’t RINOs. Well if they aren’t RINO’s then we are referring to elected conservative republicans.

“These great people usually find themselves as members of groups like the Republican Study Committee(the most conservative caucus of congressional republicans)”.

Well you found a way to misinterpret my statement.

“First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Margaret Thatcher

Conservative Innovations I Want To See Succeed
http://rightnetwork.com/ –New conservative TV network
http://actright.com/ –Fundraising hub for all things conservative
http://connect.freedomworks.org/ — Connecting Tea Partiers around the country
http://procinct.net/ –GOTV walk/call lists
http://www.citizensunited.org/ –Their documentary arm

 
 
 

I agree wonk

PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 11:52PM EDT (link)

the term RINO has been over used. The feelings about incumbents has become so prevalent that people are simply applying that term to anyone who has been in office more than 2 or so terms. I have said it before, we need to judge the person not by length of time, but by record.

Under some peoples definition of RINO, DeMint would fall into that category. After all his good deeds, some simply look at his tenure rather than his work. In SC, there have actually been ads asking voters to remove him just because he has been there too long. No one is listening, but we have to stress the difference to everyone. Length of service does no make a person a RINO, sucking up to dems and not staying true to conservative principles makes one a RINO, and a fine example of a RINO is Lindsey Graham.

 
 
 

A person being able to find

PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 7:20PM EDT (link)

a conservative democrat is about as possible as finding the pot of gold and leprechaun at the end of the rainbow. Many have looked in vain.

 
 

The "Silent Majority"

myron_j_poltroonian Wednesday, October 27th at 6:25PM EDT (link)

“Silent” no more. May the “Ruling Class” and their enablers of the “Chattering Classes”, affirm the prescient observation of Admiral Yamamoto on December 07, 1941: “I’m afraid we’ve awakened a sleeping giant”.

 

NPR = "Novesti Public Radio"

myron_j_poltroonian Wednesday, October 27th at 6:42PM EDT (link)

” ‘Novesti’, which was the, and still is, I should say, the Press arm or the press agency of the Soviet Union. It turns out that this is a front for the KGB.”

 

The Above Quote Is From A 1985 Interview.

myron_j_poltroonian Wednesday, October 27th at 6:52PM EDT (link)

‘Those who do not know history, are doomed to repeat it.” If you have no time to read this, make it. If you have no interest in Soviet era intrigue, acquire it. This is too important to ignore. It explains the genesis of our (un)surprising, apparently sudden, headlong plunge into European style Socialism, Titled: “Demoralization, Destabilization, Insurgency, Normalization” 
This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It’s shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps. 
Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: Our conversation is with Mr. Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov. Mr. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite schools inside the Soviet Union and became an expert in Indian culture and Indian languages. He had an outstanding career with Novesti, which was the, and still is, I should say, the Press arm or the press agency of the Soviet Union. It turns out that this is a front for the KGB. He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet System. And he did this at great risk to his life. He is certainly one of the world’s experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda and disinformation and active measures.
When the Soviets use the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it? 
Yuri Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate, overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do — all American mass media has to do — is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see it. There is no mystery. There is nothing to do with espionage. 
I know that espionage — intelligence gathering — looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type, in free words.
But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber only about fifteen percent of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other eighty-five percent is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, or active measures, (~Activitia perionachia, in the language of the KGB), or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. 
It takes from fifteen to twenty years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words Marxist-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. … 
Most of the activity of the Department was to compile huge amount, volume of information on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion, publishers, editors, journalists, actors, educationalists, professors of political science, members of Parliament, representatives of business circles. Most of these people were divided roughly in two groups, those that would toe the Soviet foreign policy. They would be promoted to the positions of power through media and public opinion manipulation. Those who refused the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated or executed physically, counter-revolution. 
Same way, as in the small town of Hue, in South Vietnam, several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when city was captured by Vietcong for only two days. And American CIA could never figure out, how could possibly Communists know each individual, where he lives, where, where to get him and would be arrested in one night, basically, arrested four hours before dawn, put on a van, taken out of the city limits and shot? The answer is very simple. Long before Communists occupied city there was extensive network of informers, local Vietnamese citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who are instrumental in public opinion, including barbers and taxi drivers. Everyone who was sympathetic to United States was executed.
Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi. And same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet journalists with whom I was personally friendly. 
G. Edward Griffin : Pro-Soviet? 
Yuri Bezmenov: Yes. They were idealistically-minded Leftists who made several visits to USSR and yet the KGB decided that counter-revolution or drastic changes in political structure in India, they would have to go. 
G. Edward Griffin : Why is that? 
Yuri Bezmenov: Because they know too much. Simply because, you see, the useful idiots, the Leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made a point, never bother with Leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. This was my instruction. Try to get into wide circulation, established conservative media. Reach the filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals, so-called academic circles, cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with an angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruit-able people. People who lack moral principles who are either too greedy or to suffer from self-importance, they feel that they matter a lot. These are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit. 
Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: To eliminate the others, to execute the others, don’t they serve some purpose? Wouldn’t they be the ones to rely on? 
Yuri Bezmenov: They serve purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your Leftists in the United States, all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defender, they are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destabilize the nation. When the job is completed, they are none, they are not needed any more. They know too much. Some of them, when they see the Marxist-Leninists come to power, obviously, they get offended. They think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot. But, they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninism when they come to power. And that’s what happened in Nicaragua. 
You remember, most of the former Marxist-Leninist either were put to prison. And one of them split and now he’s working against the Sandinistas. It happened in Grenada, when Maurice Bishop, he was already a Marxist. He was executed by a new Marxist who was more Marxist than this Marxist. The same happened in Afghanistan. First there was Taraki. He was killed by Amin and Amin was killed by Brabak Karbakil with the help of the KGB. The same happened in Bangladesh when Mungi Burackman, the very pro-Soviet Leftist, was assassinated by his own Marxist-Leninist military comrades. It’s the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, all these useful idiots are used, either be executed entirely, or exiled or put in prison. Many former Marxists are in Cuba, are in prison. 
So, basically, you in America are stuck with demoralization. And unless, even if you start right now, here this minute, educating a new generation of Americans, it will still take fifteen or twenty years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality and normalcy and patriotism. 
The result? The result you can see. Most of the people who graduated in the sixties, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black. You cannot change the basic perception and illogical behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another twenty or fifteen years to educate a new generation of patriotically-minded and, and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society. 
Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say, in-placed …. 
Yuri Bezmenov: Yes. 
Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: … who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination?
Yuri Bezmenov: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see the future, what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice. Obviously, they will revolt. They will be very unhappy, frustrated people. A Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They obviously will join the leagues of dissenters, dissidents. Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can, you can get popular, like Daniel Ellsberg, or filthy rich, like Jane Fonda, for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future these people will simply be squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This they don’t understand. And will be greatest shock for them, of course. 
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already. For the last thirty-five years. Actually, it is over-fulfilled because demoralization reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrade Andropov [1911-1984] and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him, by force, to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When the military boot crashes his, then he will understand. But not before that. That is the tragedy of this situation of demoralization.
The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas, the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby. It doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it only takes from two to five years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly in sensitive areas as defense and economy. The Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never have believed in fourteen years ago [1971] when I landed in this part of the world that the process would go that fast. 
The next stage is crisis. It may take only six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You see it in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change in power, structure, and economy, you have the period of so-called normalization will last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Brezhnev said, ‘now brother Czechoslovakia is normalized.’ This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks to promise all the goodies and paradise on earth to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington, D.C. with benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind if they are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of the new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind. He will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control. 
Most politicians, media, and educational system frames another generation who think they are living at the peace time. False. The United States is in a state of war against the basic principles and the foundations of this system. 
And the initiator of this war is not comrade Andropov of course. It’s the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world Communist system, the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don’t give a hoot. If you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you. But you don’t have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now, that unlike myself you have literally several years to live on unless the United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. Every second the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is the last country of freedom and possibility. 
G. Edward Griffin: OK, what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people? 
Yuri Bezmenov: The immediate thing that comes to my mind, of course, there must be an immediate, very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of real patriotism, number one. Number two, explain the real danger of socialist, Communist, whatever welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of their development, nothing ever can help United States. You might kiss goodbye to your freedoms, including freedoms to homosexuals, prison inmates, all this freedom will vanish, evaporate in five seconds, including your precious life. 
The second thing, the moment at least part of the United States is convinced that the danger is real, they have to force the American government, and I’m not talking about sending letters, signing petitions and all these beautiful noble activity. I’m talking about forcing the United States government to stop aiding Communist government.

• L says:
• January 26, 2010 at 6:41 pm
• I have personaly witnessed the behavior and effects in persons that Mr. Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov has described as being proven. The current political and social structure is as he has warned. Only the faithful to the original intent of the American Constitution, thru the conservative party Republicans have a realistic hope of preventing the horrors which are looming before the face.