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Recount Gives Prosser a Lead in Wisconsin…For Now (With Updates)

From the diaries by Erick

UPDATE 7: Barring Democratic shenanigans (and they are still possible) I think it’s safe to say Prosser has won. This means that, as others have said, conservatives have been able to match a supposedly hyper-motivated Left blow-for-blow in a typically blue-leaning state with a strong history of progressivism and support for labor. It’s almost certain that there will be a recount, though. Justice Prosser needs your help. Head over to his website and donate to his recount fund if you can.

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I’m sure most of you remember that, according to the official results of the initial count, JoAnne Kloppenburg led the incumbent David Prosser 740,090 to 739,886, or by 204 votes. Obviously with results this close, a recount was in order.

Fortunately, things seem to be looking up for Prosser as the re-canvassing has brought more votes in for him. Many more. Hit the jump for more info.

Per the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, some more Prosser votes started to trickle in from Winnebago county, netting him 244 more votes, which translates into a 40 vote lead statewide:

Winnebago County’s numbers say Prosser received 20,701 votes to Kloppenburg’s 18,887. The AP has 19,991 for Prosser to Kloppenburg’s 18,421.

The new numbers would give Prosser 244 more votes, or a 40-vote lead statewide.

An editor at the AP said the news service became aware of the discrepancy in the past hour. The AP last checked figures with Winnebago County at 10:14 a.m. Wednesday, according to the AP. The county adjusted its figures at 2:27 p.m.

The latest numbers for Winnebago County are not official.

The good news by no means ends there, though. The bombshell development that could seal this for Prosser came in the form of 7000+ votes for him that weren’t counted in Waukesha County (a Prosser stronghold) thanks to a computer error. National Review has more info:

After Tuesday night’s Wisconsin Supreme Court election, a computer error in heavily Republican Waukesha County failed to send election results for the entire City of Brookfield to the Associated Press. The error, revealed today, would give incumbent Supreme Court Justice David Prosser a net 7,381 votes against his challenger, attorney Joanne Kloppenburg.

[...]

Prior to the election, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus was heavily criticized for her decision to keep the county results on an antiquated personal computer, rather than upgrade to a new data system being utilized statewide. Nickolaus cited security concerns for keeping the data herself — yet when she reported the data, it did not include the City of Brookfield, whose residents cast nearly 14,000 votes.

“Waukesha County officials have announced a press conference for 5:30 CST.” [Ed.- That's right now]

Things are still developing, but Randy Melchert has a great rundown of the developments in the re-canvassing at his blog. The Journal-Sentinel also has a write-up on the developments in Waukesha.

What do you think guys? Perhaps there’s some hope for us after all. Wisconsin Republicans have shown they have backbone, so I hope they fight this to the end. For now, though, things look good for us, it seems.

And yes, sometimes close recounts DO go our way. Renee Ellmers of NC-2 can tell you a little something about that.

UPDATE: See the presser here at Fox News.

UPDATE 2: Journal-Sentinel has feed of what’s going down in Waukesha here. (HT: techsan’s comment).

UPDATE 3: For a laugh, check out Michael Moore’s twitter feed. It’s what a Liberal head explosion-in-progress looks like.

Also, to help defeat allegations of election fraud, a Democratic poll watcher has called the previously uncounted votes legit, per the Daily Caller:

Democratic canvass watcher Ramona Kitzinger was also at the press conference.

“We went over everything & made sure the numbers jibed up and they did,” Kitzinger said. “We’re satisfied that it’s correct.”

Of course, I will say that Democrats do know what election fraud looks like. *cough*Minnesota 2008 Senate Race*cough*2004 Washington Gubernatorial Race*cough*.

UPDATE 4: Computer I’m at won’t let me upload media to RedState, but this picture seems particularly relevant. (HT: National Review)

UPDATE 5: John Nolte’s right: “This wasn’t FOUND ballots. A count wasn’t recorded. No way in hell that’s fraud.”

Also Liberal numbers guy Nate Silver (of FiveThirtyEight) says the ballots check out in his opinion. See here, here, and here.

UPDATE 6: Prosser has been quoted by the Journal-Sentinel as saying:

I’m encouraged by the various reports form the county canvasses….Our confidence is high, and we will continue to monitor with optimism, and believe that the positive results will hold. We’ve always maintained faith in the voters and trust the election officials involved in the canvassing will reaffirm  the lead we’ve taken.

Also, here’s another great pic for us to savor. Derek Hunter’s caption: “Check out the bottom of the screen while Hardball panel discusses how Scott Walker’s guy lost to Kloppenburg.” Poor Chrissy Matthews and company.

COMMENTS

  • techsan

    Dem rep (Ramona Kitzinger) is adamant it is correct.

    http://www.jsonline.com/general/37714089.html?bcpid=23739055001&bctid=615422516001 is the live feed

    • techsan

      http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/119424759.html

      In short…a mistake, not fraud. Good thing the Libs spent time pointing out the different between the two.

      • techsan

        The Dem lady is sweet……

        http://www.jsonline.com/general/37714089.html?bcpid=8725036001&bctid=895391546001

        The numbers “jive up”.

        So…who are you going to believe.

        Someone who had a R and D observer? And who the D observer has no obvious reason to lie? Or someone who wasn’t there that will (if Lib’s act true to form) come out and attack this sweet lady?

        • Doc Holliday

          sick people are going to be angry. they think there is nothing worse than a fixed fight that does not stay fixed.

  • uncledan

    I don’t like ANY of this.
    They County Clerk just uh, KEPT the votes for herself on an antiquated personal computer and uh, forgot to add them when she was doing the final count? And with ALL the money we’re forced to pay in taxes for this super duper new voting system, we still have this crap going on – to the tune of thousands of votes lost at the LOCAL level?

    Democrats AND Republicans should be screaming bloody murder over this.

    • Aaron Gardner
      • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

        I was thinking this myself. You know what they say about great minds…

        • myron_j_poltroonian

          He’s the guy who wrote “Hey Joe” (Where ya goin’ with that gun in your hand?) – Jimmi Hendrix’s greatest (and first) hit.

      • skorrent1

        She may have been encouraged to “overlook” these votes until the Dems responded to the first count of “What do we need”.

        Still rememnber Dirkson’s Cheshire Cat grin.

        • Aaron Gardner

          But you never know I guess.

        • http://www.scragged.com petrarch

          We all know that the Democrats have a limited ability to “produce” additional ballots in squeaker elections. Not by the hundreds of thousands perhaps, but a couple hundred, sure, or even a few thousand.

          I can imagine a situation where a Republican official, seeing a virtual tie, might consider it strategically helpful to make a mistaken totals report, intentionally UNDERreporting the Republican vote, while ensuring that the actual, genuine, cast ballots themselves were carefully preserved under an ironclad chain of custody.

          Then, the Dems would see that they needed X number of magic ballots to win, produce X+ a couple, and declare victory.

          And THEN, just as happened here, the R official would declare “mea culpa” and say that her COUNT was off. No, not the ballots themselves, all the ballots were always in their proper place as the D observer would truthfully testify. And of course the full recount would confirm the tale – these Republican votes always existed and were valid, it was just the count that was messed up, which is why you do recounts.

          But by that time the Dems would have shot their wad of fraud, and it would be too late for them to “magic” in a couple thousand more votes to overcome the “correction.”

          I am not suggesting that’s what happened here, there is absolutely no evidence for that. I’m not even sure it would be fraud, given that people do actually make counting mistakes, every last ballot would be genuine, and every last vote would (ultimately) be counted correctly. It would obviously be more than a little shady and not something Republicans should stoop to – though I couldn’t help but see a little poetic justice.

          • myron_j_poltroonian
          • The_Gadfly

            if the count is controlled by Dem apparatchiks as was proven in the Franken recounts and the Gore recount arguments.

            The key is to have at least one Republican in a position of authority to keep the election marginally honest.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      …but just for the record: the person who REALLY spoiled your Special Time was the local Democrat on the canvassing board who signed off – publicly – on the new totals. Take it up with her, Sparky.

      • AF Sarge (Ret)

        That it was a Dem driving the final nail in the coffin :) of Klpppenburg’s “win”

        Sarge

  • msctex

    Nationwide and on every level, and make it as modern and accurate as humanly possible. One vote for every (living) individual who is an American citizen, with a requirement to prove their identity.

    Then stand back and watch as the Dems try and find a way to make simple accuracy in voting tallies a racist idea. This is a fundamental matter which will serve to further destroy the Democratic Party, and all we need do is ensure the system functions as it should. They cannot survive under such circumstances, and the smarter ones know it.

    • blogan2

      Against the VoterID issue, Democrats try to portray voting as something simple.

      1. People come in
      2. Name gets marked
      3. Ballots get counted

      And there’s no reason to add anything to the process because it works and it’s never been proven to be any different (translation: We don’t have 100% verifiable proof there’s been a failure).

    • The_Gadfly

      Not that I object to requiring drivers license or alternate official photo ID (provided for free to indigents if necessary), but they can be forged if the need arises, and most poll watchers aren’t going to be experts on forged licenses. Somebody with a purple thumb obviously can’t vote a second time.

      As an added bonus, we can do away with those silly little “I voted” stickers.

      • acat

        Think of it as the citizenship equivalent of Ash Wednesday marks for Catholics…

        Mew

      • myron_j_poltroonian

        Unless all dye remover is tinted purple, it’ll never work.

      • gekster

        If your conservative, one digit from iether hand.
        If liberal, one digit from each hand. (that should cut down on half the voter fraud right there).

        • rightwingmom52

          I hope this works. I’m technologically challenged and am try to post a picture of purple zombies.

          http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb418/rightwingmom52/?action=view&current=purple-zombies-copy.jpg

          • gekster

            I’ve been seeing them like that since 68.
            Maybe someone who knows can post the picture.

  • http://www.rightreality.wordpress.com andysmith

    I can only imagine the stories on how a “crooked Republican” stole this election.
    I don’t like this…..one bit. Why in the world would she “keep” the votes to herself? Look, we all know that Democrats cheat (go all the way back to LBJ’s Senate election down in Texas to Christine Gregoire in 2004), but this smells of the same BS. This had better be legit.

    • lineholder

      She set up an Access program that was actually more efficient than the program the state has been using. But’s an Access database format. The columns have to match exactly or it screws up the data.

      According to what she said during the interview, she had stated that election employees should not change column orientation. Apparently someone did. The percentage of county votes at first total count was 42%, which wasn’t that far off from the % in that areas in recent elections. So she didn’t question it. She just sent the information on the state.

      When the votes margin was so close, a recount was required. That’s when the discrepancy was discovered.

      She had the auditors present while the canvassing took place. They’ve verified the newly presented data. It is accurate.

    • Doc Holliday

      what are you trying to pull here? Did you watch the freaking press conference? I found it amusing, those liberals, er, reporters were quite angry.

      What do you think a vote canvass means? Were you also pissed when Kerry lost even though exit polls said he would win?

      • http://www.rightreality.wordpress.com andysmith

        Take a chill pill, Doc. I was just going off of things I saw on the post and the obviously limited information I had considering I just got home from work about 15-20 minutes before I posted that, and wasn’t able to come back in after that.
        Before you accuse me of being pissed about Kerry losing, I encourage you to look at some of my older posts and replies to see if I sound like a Kerry supporter.

  • Martin Knight
    • Martin Knight

      Held back Brookfield’s results until the Democrat fraud machine had committed itself, I mean.

      That would at least show some Republicans have been paying attention.

      • acat

        It’s apparently an actual accident ..

        It is, also, exactly why Illinois keeps going blue.

        All the Red counties report in before Crook County so there’s plenty of opportunity to find ballots and vote the graveyards…

        Mew

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    I mentioned this in the post, but @MMFlint’s really lost it. Some highlights:

    Kloppenburg has already declared victory! Repubs in WI r behaving like sore losers. Now they’ve hired Bush lawyer from FL 2000 recount.

    C’mon Repubs, once u were ahead in FL u declrd victry & got theCourt 2 stop any more counting. What’s the matter this time? #shoeonotherfoot

    So who was this clerk who magically found thousands of ballots? A former staffer for the Assembly Republican Caucus(wait, it gets better)…

    …who was granted immunity in the investigation into allegations of illegal campaign activities on state time. That’s the Repub clerk.

    Mmm…schadenfreude.

  • melbedewy

    will not be happy. Have to visit Daily Kooks to get a big laugh.
    Rachel should be fun tonight…

    • spainishirish

      Those pesky machines only work when Dems win or are winning. Strange thing, that.

    • Old_Crow
  • spainishirish

    they don’t know how many they need to steal. This is beautiful, particularly in the light of the theft of the 2004 election that caused Kerry to receive Wisconsin’s electoral votes when he probably didn’t carry the state.

    There are a lot of grim faces around the Obama camp and DNC right now, and it isn’t because some union workers didn’t get what they wanted. If the Midwest is lost to the Dems this time out, they have no path to victory.

    • earlgrey

      How many votes would Kloppenberg have gotten in Dem friendly counties/districts if these results had been released at the beginning of the night?

      • acat

        but .. for some reason they keep letting Crook County report in last… and Dems keep winning.

        Wisconsin, this is the right approach. Flatlanders better be learnin’ from the cheeseheads tonight.

        Mew

    • popdaddy

      it really helps to pay attention to the down ballot elections at the State and county level. The socialist democrats targeted those offices years ago.

      No doubt the socialists pumped all their effort in defrauding the incoming vote totals never dreaming the State GOP could actually develop a strategy.

      This election reinforces the value of Photo Voter ID laws. Thank goodness Texas has finally passed one to protect my vote. However, the Texas bill already needs admendment to address the absentee vote process that the socialist dems now demonize.

      But hey, Go Wsconsin!

  • Bill S
    • Doc Holliday

      but can they get a “true believer” to risk her name to sign off on fraud? That I don’t know, but it is certainly possible.

      • carolina

        staunch. I give her credit.

        • Doc Holliday

          I just figure the Dems will try something somewhere. Either they will “find” votes, or drag it out in the courts.

  • seattlebruce

    on the night of the election. Joe Miller and Norm Coleman proved you shouldn’t fight…/sarc

  • GregInFla

    Does not the state constitution transcend parties? This whole thing makes me sick.

    • The_Gadfly

      Some pick earlier dates, nobody picks a later one.

  • swami7774

    …is a hero.
    I also think she should think about hiring protection.

    • Doc Holliday

      Some people have their political view and then focus on doing an honest job. It is too bad the worst of the worst always get on tv, on the net, etc. So many hateful people with megaphones drown out normal people just trying to help our system work.

      • chipbennett

        I am an election supervisor. My crew – Republican and Democrat alike – work with a sense of professionalism and duty.

        In the end, all that really means is that 1 out of 450 polling places in St. Louis County is assured of an accurate vote tally. But there are enough of us out here to make that statement true at every single polling place in the country. Just like with the Precinct Project – let’s make it happen.

  • runner12

    I hope he can hold on and win. Praying for WI right now. The Left there is going to go nuts over this.

    • runner12

      I love it when the Left thinks they have won and then it turns out that they lost!

  • sowa1

    Just like Minnesota the Dem’s will find votes somewhere. Back in 2008 there were 5,000 votes MORE than they had people. Nothing was done about it either.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    That is how you have to win close elections, Give the Democrats an amount of votes they think they have to steal er ” find”, and then move the goalposts.

  • congressworksforus

    On the election night thread I pointed out that there was a problem in Waukesha when its turn out compared to 2010 was off by 10% from the comparable turnouts across the rest of the State.

    So this doesn’t surprise me at all. And it’s why the official canvas is always the total to pay attention to, not the election night count.

    And, if I may sum up the feelings of probably everyone on here when it comes to the result of this election: … this … feels … soooooooo … good …

    • earlgrey

      Very observant. The lefties of course won’t ever see things our way. They assume we are cheating and are secretly mad that we are better at it than them.

      The good people of Wauesha county deserve their votes to be counted too dems!

  • Castor

    The union bosses and their thugs,
    giving Kloppy mighty hugs,
    just forgot to take their eye,
    to look at Brookfield,
    MY, OH,MY !!!

  • bk

    I watched the replay of Softball to see this and it was PRICELESS. I don’t know if it’s live or taped, but about 15 mins into the show one of the women in the studio gives the breaking news about the vote change. 30 mins later the segment about WI starts, and Chrissy is going on and on about how Walker overreached, how the people of WI sent him a clear message/rebuke by knocking out his guy Prosser, etc. The whole time he’s gloating about it, they have the breaking news at the bottom of the screen about Prosser. I loved it!

    BTW if his show is live he’s an even bigger idiot than I gave him credit for.

    No doubt Monday he’ll talk about how Koch paid off someone to steal the election, since obvious Prosser had lost fair and square.

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    was the sound of the dems hopes when the “Other Shoe” hit the ground – running.

  • ihateliberals

    go and miraculously find 50,000 more votes just to make sure their judge gets the seat. We the people have lost charge of things to the Unions. Union definition. Union = a criminal gang, esp. one
    involved in organized crime.
    The difference now is that the uinion has the law behind it inseat of after it.

    • The_Gadfly

      will petition to have Prosser disqualified for hearing the case because he’s partisan and biased against them. With a tied vote the lower (fixed) case will stand. So it will be critical to stand by Prosser and annihilate that argument when it arises.

  • colony14author

    If you know the vote is going to be close, you can’t risk a squeaker because the Dems will suddenly “find” the few hundred votes they will need for a recount.

    So, you intentionally hold back a LARGE number of votes. The Dems, believing they won by only 204 votes, prepare a few hundred more phony ballots just in case they are needed in a recount. Then, after the records have been sealed, making it more difficult for anyone to cheat on a widespread scale, you release the 7,000+ you forgot to count the day before. Because those 7,000+ votes are legitimate, no one can prove fraud and a recount keeps the GOP in the lead. If the Dems pick up a few hundred in the recount, it’s no big deal.

    The Dems play that game all the time. This time the GOP beat them at the game. (Or they got lucky.)

    • The_Gadfly

      We should do our best to accurately count all the votes legitimately cast in any election.

  • PubliusII

    wait for the thousands of missing ballots for Klopperberg suddenly appear in some union official’s car trunk in Milwaukee. Does anyone know what the margin of fraud is in Wisconsin?

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    -NT

  • happyhistorian

    all the recanvassing over the state of Wisconsin. Let’s pray that when it is all said and done and certified that Prosser is the winner and that the bright lights of good defeat the darkness of evil in that very confused and helpless state of Wisconsin.

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    -N/T-

  • Doc Holliday

    if we get less than the truth, we all lose.

  • redinwash

    Now unions are “evil”?

    Wow. And do you really think god is anti-union?

  • akafroman

    nt

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    -NT-

  • Tbone
  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    And quite a statement on what Californians thought on Jerry Brown……..yet he was reelected (albeit this is a different California from then).

  • proudgop

    a lot counties are reporting these numbers
    Wispolitics.com has nice round on it

    Watch out for Dane and Milwaukee county and how many votes they come up with?

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    I knew it was over when I saw his first campaign ad. He sounded like he was much more of a conservative than Meg Whitman. (He’s not, but that, to me, is a given.) As state Attorney General, he refused to defend the proposition passed by a good majority of the voters that defined marriage as between one man and one woman because he disagreed with the voters decision and thought it to be unconstitutional. Yet now, he wants to have the voters decide whether or not to raise taxes (by extending the current “Temporary” increases) so the heavily democrat controlled legislature will not be seen as the “Tax and Spend” Liberals that they are. No “Stripe Changer” he.

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    Every post by you bashes, however subtly, the right in some way.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That’ll do it, clown.

  • momofthecastle

    Also praying for 2 years for “the people’s eyes to be opened and for the truth to come out.”

    Will continue to pray.
    Also to see about donating. I don’t know why he should have to pay anything to have a recount, but….
    (“Even so faith if it has no works, is dead by itself”. —James 2:17)