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Israel, Palestine, and Obama: Is the President Already Walking Back his Demands on Israel?

As may have been expected, President Obama’s decision yesterday to become the first American president to directly and overtly declare that Israel must withdraw to its 1949 borders was met with negative reactions both at home and abroad – particularly within the state of Israel, over 300,000 of whose residents currently live in the territories Obama demanded that the Jewish state cede to a future "state of Palestine."

The problem here, as I noted yesterday, is greater than the "simple" issue of creating 300,000 refugees in a new state that will not take kindly to their presence (to say the very least); it is one of Israel’s overall security and ability to protect its people and defend itself against future attacks, which are currently mitigated by the presence of buffer zones and IDF personnel outside the lines within which Obama has declared Israel must recede.

Though some American commentators found a reason to gripe about the apparent lack of diplomatic decorum involved in his statement, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded to Obama’s speech by reminding the 44th president of a promise his predecessor, George W. Bush, made to a previous Israeli PM a few years ago. At that time (2004), Bush wrote the following to Ariel Sharon:

In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli populations centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion . It is realistic to expect that any final status agreement will only be achieved on the basis of mutually agreed changes that reflect these realities.

On April 22, 2004, a week after receiving that letter, Sharon told the Israeli Knesset what it meant for the Jewish state:

There is American recognition that in any permanent status arrangement, there will be no return to the [19]67 borders. This recognition is to be expressed in two ways: understanding that the facts that have been established in the large settlement blocs are such that they do not permit a withdrawal to the [19]67 borders and implementation of the term ‘defensible borders.’

With yesterday’s speech, President Obama officially changed that U.S. policy – a fact which Netanyahu immediately reminded him of, and pronounced unacceptable to the Israeli government or people :

Israel appreciates President Obama’s commitment to peace.  Israel believes that for peace to endure between Israelis and Palestinians, the viability of a Palestinian state cannot come at the expense of the viability of the one and only Jewish state.

That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004, which were overwhelmingly supported by both Houses of Congress .

Among other things, those commitments relate to Israel not having to withdraw to the 1967 lines which are both indefensible and which would leave major Israeli population centers in Judea and Samaria beyond those lines .

Those commitments also ensure Israel’s well-being as a Jewish state by making clear that Palestinian refugees will settle in a future Palestinian state rather than in Israel.

Without a solution to the Palestinian refugee problem outside the borders of Israel, no territorial concession will bring peace.

Equally, the Palestinians, and not just the United States, must recognize Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people, and any peace agreement with them must end all claims against Israel.

Jeffrey Goldberg, writing in the Atlantic , takes exception to the Israeli Prime Minister’s tone because, in his view, the relationship between the US and Israel is not one of equals, and the recipient of live-sustaining aid should not speak in such a way to its benefactor:

I don’t like this word, "expect." Even if there weren’t an imbalance between these two countries — Israel depends on the U.S. for its survival, while America, I imagine, would continue to exist even if Israel ceased to exist — I would find myself feeling resentful about the way Netanyahu speaks about our President.

It seems to me that such an attitude assumes the U.S.’s reasons for supporting Israel – the home state of the Jews established on the heels of the Holocaust, a close economic partner, and the lone functioning, pro-Western democracy in the region – are purely altruistic, and that we derive no benefit whatsoever from Israel’s existence as a whole (let alone from supporting that existence).

Jennifer Rubin, writing on her Washington Post blog , suggests that by last night President Obama was already beginning to walk back his declaration , made earlier in the day, that Israel must withdraw to its 1949 borders as the first step in an imagined "renewed peace process" between the Jewish state and its Palestinian neighbors.  The evidence comes from a BBC interview the president gave yesterday evening. Let’s see how his statement there compares to the relevant passage from his speech.

In his Middle East speech, Obama said :

So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, and a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

Last night, he said this to the BBC (the ellipses reflect breaks in the article’s quotes; no full transcript was available):

The basis for negotiations will involve looking at that 1967 border, recognising that conditions on the ground have changed and there are going to need to be swaps to accommodate the interests of both sides. …Our argument is let’s get started on a conversation about territory and about security. …If we make progress on what two states would look like and a reality sets in among the parties, that this is how it is going to end up, then it becomes easier for both sides to make difficult concessions to resolve those two other issues.

This clarification of terms on Israel is reminiscent of a similar move by President Bush a little over three years ago. At a conference held at Annapolis, Maryland, which was attended by Israel’s neighbors on the condition (among others) that they would not have to recognize Israel’s right to exist prior to the beginning of negotiations, Bush said the following:

The Israelis must do their part. They must show the world that they are ready to begin — to bring an end to the occupation that began in 1967 through a negotiated settlement This settlement will establish Palestine as a Palestinian homeland, just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people. Israel must demonstrate its support for the creation of a prosperous and successful Palestinian state by removing unauthorized outposts, ending settlement expansion, and finding other ways for the Palestinian Authority to exercise its responsibilities without compromising Israel’s security.

The next spring (May, 2008), after the "peace process" which Annapolis was intended to restart had proven utterly fruitless (as might be expected due to the lack of the most basic of preconditions for participation – the recognition of a basic right to exist), Bush walked back his previous statements, and said the following in an address to the Israeli Knesset:

[T]he founding charter of Hamas calls for the "elimination" of Israel. …[T]he followers of Hezbollah chant "Death to Israel, Death to America!" That is why Osama bin Laden teaches that "the killing of Jews and Americans is one of the biggest duties." …[T]he President of Iran dreams of returning the Middle East to the Middle Ages and calls for Israel to be wiped off the map…There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It’s natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously. Jews and Americans have seen the consequences of disregarding the words of leaders who espouse hatred. And that is a mistake the world must not repeat in the 21st century.

Bush, at least, was willing to acknowledge both the widespread existence of pure anti-Israel, anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the region, and the obstacles (to put it mildly) this sentiment presents to peace in the region. Whether that’s a nuancing or walking-back of his earlier statement or not is an open question, given the nonspecific (and often uninformed) language Obama uses in foreign policy statements and speeches. Obama, on the other hand, took no more than a passing note of Hamas’s dedication to Israel’s destruction, completely ignoring the anti-Israel’s-existence sentiment that permeates the rest of the Palestinian leadership and population, as well as the rest of the region (and Old Europe, to say the very least).

In making the statements he did, though, even if he tries to walk them back, Obama did irreparable damage to Israel’s position in the negotiating process. Rubin notes this, as well, writing:

As for Obama, whether he cloddishly used language without understanding its full import or whether he intended once again to stick it to Bibi Netanyahu, the damage is done. The Israelis are reminded that Obama is not a president who truly understands the Jewish state and can be counted on to defend it.

Jewish voters who were nervous before are likely more nervous now. And just imagine, in a second term Obama won’t necessarily care what either the Israelis or pro-Israel voters have to say. There will be no backpedals then.

COMMENTS

  • aesthete

    Israel is not quite as beleaguered as it is often portrayed: it has a world-class military and has won territory in the past. Even its defeat in Lebanon was very costly to the Lebanese, who would certainly rather not have to face down the IDF. It faces no existential threat from its neighbors at this point, and has the means to ensure that it never does. Right now, its gravest problem is the security threat that non-state actors or state-funded terrorists present, and potential destabilization of Arab countries where it has normalized relations (such as Egypt). Talk of Israel being put in existential peril is overwrought. It has survived decades of feckless politicians within and outside of Israel; it will continue to survive.

    • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

      The agreement that ended the Lebanon war included a prohibition on rearming Hezbollah. It was ignored, in part because Lebanon is the second-highest recipient of US military aid per capita in the world.

    • blooch

      I am guilty of worrying too much about the perils faced by Israel. It is important to take occasions like this to remind current and would-be bad actors of what they actually face, if they go beyond impotent posturing and plotting, and they take up arms against Israel based on false hope and information.

    • cwilson
      • aesthete

        At cost to Israel, of course, but still within its power. Israel will do fine — she’s a big girl, and she’s weathered much tougher storms than Iranian nuttery and the thorn that is the Palestinian territories.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • aesthete
          • swvapatriot

            I read RS avidly, and respect your opinions greatly, but think you and everyone else are missing a couple crucial factors.

            The Jewish people established Israel so that, finally, they would have a place where they could defend themselves against their enemies. They have done this many times since their founding. After taking out Iraq’s nuclear reactor in 1981, Menachem Begin explained, “There will be no more Holocosts.”

            Israel has very ample means for defending itself against any aggressor nation, and I believe will, after exhausting all other possibilities for peace. I do not believe they will ever allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, even if it means they must use their own to insure it.

            I also, as a believing Christian, do not think God will allow their anihilation at the hands of Iran or the Arabs, and I am not a pre-mil fundie. I read in the scriptures that the Lord still has plans for Israel, and will not let them be over-run and wiped out. I pray that I am correct in this, as we are the wild branch grafted onto the same tree.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            an argument for having no allies we stand by. Yews, Israel could come back from another holocaust, after all, they made a comeback 3000+ years after they ceased to exist after Solomon.

            And I love all this optimism that Israel could defeat all the nations that hate them and surround them and, on the weekend, take out the nuclear capabilities of all that seek their annihilation, with no help from us.

            And of course the excuse that we need not help them since God will obviously help this iteration of the State of Israel, even if God saw fit to have them absent from the scene for 3000+ years is quite ridiculous. It reminds of the man that was on top of his after a flood and rejected rescue from helicopters and boats since God was gonna rescue him!

            Israel is a small and very vulnerable nation. If the Arabs, Iran and others got competent in a minimal degree they could destroy Israel rather quickly absent our deterrence and willingness to act.

            For us to abandon this peace-lover of liberty ally would portend our own moral bankruptcy and eventual fall.

            When did RS become such a strong advocate of the morally bankrupt, loser philosophy of radical isolationist libertarianism? Sad.

          • edintexas

            Yes, the IDF has beaten attacks multiple times. And even with territorial gains.* However, those who cite the supremacy of the IDF do not consider any of the opposing armies to have improved, or that the IDF materiel today might not be as overwhelmingly better than that of the opposition.

            The ’73 (Yom Kippur) War was a close won thing. The Syrian armor almost broke through and, but for tough resistance and a little luck, might have changed the outcome. There is never a prior guarantee of the outcome of a battle, much less a war, in which the opponents are even close to evenly matched (even Libya is proving to be a tougher nut than the hero Presidents and Prime Ministers thought it would be). Those who believe there can be guaranteed results in war are deluded.

            * Which the world no longer believes to be valid – so when is Russia going to give back parts of Finland and Poland? And Poland give back part of Germany? And the US give back part of Mexico?

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • mitchsf

    seems to have missed the fact that all of the power and money that the Arab world has was given to them in trade for their oil, not earned through hard work and innovation. The billions they receive annually pales in comparison to the small amount of money that Israel receives and is minimal compensation for enabling a poor, backward society to threaten them militarily.

  • TopGun

    attention away from thinking about a dwindling economy, unemployment, and no hope for relief on the horizon in an election cycle 101.

    You attack one of your country?s closest allies with absurd demands.

    BONUS: You are allowed to display your ignorance in foreign policy, so you can fire up your base of those ignorant enough to believe you have knowledge of world issues or the ability to solve major problems.

  • bk

    It’s only fair, right? It’s time to end the occupation!

    • banzaibob

      Will except the Pre-Columbian borders. It’s time to end the European occupation.

  • johnt

    Maybe if child/puppet wasn’t trying to damage an independent nation he might have been shown the respect that in any case he doesn’t deserve. Poor Goldberg, did he ever refer to Nixon, Reagan, or the two Bushes as “our president”? Sorry Goldberg, what hurts is that Obama was shown up, and his aides as well, as the immature but dangerous clowns they are. And it is the very question of Israel’s existence and it’s dependence on this child through a weakening alliance that is the issue, the child having obviously chosen sides.
    Increasingly Israel is fighting for it’s life, and Goldberg & others are annoyed that the trash in the WH isn’t receiving due homage.

  • JimmyGee

    But I am noticing a pattern here…either is Obama. He has alienated the UK, as well as Israel. How do you alienate the UK? Is there any country, besides the third world socialist despot that he does like, and won’t sabotage the United State’s relationship with?
    Obama, being, well, Obama is the problem. He taints the United State’s relationship with other counties with his socialist ideology and, victim mentality.
    For Obama, foreign relations is not about representing the United States, it is about representing HIM! A good case in point, on his first meeting with the Queen of England, he did not give her a gift that represents the United States, rather, Obama’s infinite wisdom was to give the Queen an IPod loaded with his speeches! No wonder he was not invited to the Prince’s wedding.
    I am so tired of this country being led by this socialist child.

  • averagevoterdotcom

    Jewish problem.

  • renny

    Israelis consume more snack foods per captia than any other country in the world. The explanation has been the constant stress EVERYONE lives under.

    Some indications: wherever an unattended package is perceived, the site becomes a ghost area, because Israelis vacate themselves instantaneously

    Even at post-1967 borders, Israel would fit into NJ 3 or 4 times, and if at the 1967 borders, the 9-mile narrowest width would be less half the size of the DC Beltway.

    Israel lives IN FEAR. Yes, she has a great standing army and virtually everyone in the nation is a reserve, but we do not live that way here and would not tolerate such an existence.

    So, to blithely say well, Israel is used to these things and she can take care of her herself is wilfful blindness. The Middle East maniacs have only not attacked Israel in decades not out of rational considerations of Israel’s power or because the USA is an ally, but only because Egypt had opted out.

    Now that Egypt is cozying up to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Muslim Brotherhood wants talks with Hamas, surely now is NO time to ask any concessions of Israel and to expect acceptance is stupid, unpolitic, and fruitless.

    little o and his lefty ilk have an absolutely tin ear for the Jews and the Jewish state, and even if Israel caved and gave up all and a “secure” Palestinian state was shoehorned into Israel and Jordan, the millennial history of the area argues for continued turmoil, as it is a bridge from Africa to Europe and Asia and has ALWAYS been at flux or at war. Current politicians either have no concept of those facts or are too birdbrained to care.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …is that Bibi must wait-out BHO’s tenure, for we cannot risk dependence on the White House if a war starts.

    That is why blowback started on Thursday and culminated on Sunday; if BHO had to initiate a “charm offense” post-Cairo, he’s going to have to beseech his Jewish donor-base for restoration of support he received in ’08.

    Just imagine how a re-elected BHO would deal with Bibi!

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      Therefore, I wrote the following to him, which I’ll share:

      Bibi was very accommodating to “zero” tonight @ AIPAC, although he made sure to reference the ’67-border “line” that was “crossed” on 5/19. But he knows Israel would require American relief if a shooting-war broke-out, so he’s playing a waiting-game for another 20 months…which is a tightrope act!

      All the talk [including on Morning Joe on MSNBC] was of Jewish-donor erosion/procrastination; remember, 47% of all $$$ raised by D’s is from Jews. Remember that the Cairo speech failed to cite Jewish history prior to the Shoah, and the ongoing moral-equivalence verbiage cuts deep. That’s why BHO has created a major problem for himself and…as you may have noted…for his party. [I then added a personal reference to local politics in suburban Philly.]

      The key-fear – which Mort Zuckerman just echoed on Cavuto – is that a re-elected “zero” would run rampant over Israeli interests; his donor-base presumably is feeling the pain of their past fealty to D’s.

  • raywebber

    First, there is NO place on this planet called, “Palastine.” Second, Obama knows what he’s doing. It just shows that he is anti-semitic, and anti-american. Living under his father and Wright all those years is why hs’s like he is. I will always side with Israel, even it means taking sides. Israel is my beloved, and close to my heart, however, because of the sins and atrocities that they allow, like gay pride parades and living like there is no ‘Elohim (God), they who do such things deserve what’s coming to them. Yet the problem is that those who don’t deserve death and destruction are caught in the middle. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

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