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‘Three Cheers for Romneycare’

Standing athwart history and yelling 'Hey! HEY!! Look at ME!!!'

Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post‘s resident Romney campaign mouthpiece, has been joined by another conservative pundit in the “I left my dignity at the altar of Mitt Romney” club. This time, as you may have heard, the offender is Ann Coulter, whose support for the former Massachusetts governor (and lack of publicity to date leading up to her CPAC appearance next week) has led her to offer – in print – a full-throated (albeit screechy) defense of the biggest piece of baggage Romney possesses: the Massachusetts Health Care Reform Act of 2006, or ‘Romneycare.’

Coulter’s column, titled “THREE CHEERS FOR ROMNEYCARE!” (yes, the title is all caps in the original), provides a defense of Romneycare that simply and completely ignores both conservative objections and the reasons why it has been a dismal failure as policy. For example, she drops the names of people and organizations that supported it at the time, despite the fact that such supporters were few and far between (opposition was much more commonplace), and that many of those supporters have since publicly changed their minds. An example of this is her declaration that “A leading conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, helped design Romneycare, and its health care analyst, Bob Moffit, flew to Boston for the bill signing.” Fine – but what Coulter ignores is the fact that Heritage has since repudiated the idea of an individual mandate at any level, writing in an amicus brief (pdf) filed in a challenge to Obamacare that “since [the passage and implementation of Obamacare], a growing body of research has provided a strong basis to conclude that any government insurance mandate is not only unnecessary, but is a bad policy option.”

Where she does acknowledge the obvious issues with Romneycare, Coulter simply throws mud at “Democrats” for ruining Romney’s beautiful program. She writes:

What went wrong with Romneycare wasn’t a problem in the bill, but a problem in Massachusetts: Democrats.

First, the overwhelmingly Democratic legislature set the threshold for receiving a subsidy so that it included people making just below the median income in the United States, a policy known as “redistribution of income.” For more on this policy, see “Marx, Karl.”

Then, liberals destroyed the group-rate, “no frills” private insurance plans allowed under Romneycare (i.e. the only kind of health insurance a normal person would want to buy, but which is banned in most states) by adding dozens of state mandates, including requiring insurers to cover chiropractors and in vitro fertilization — a policy known as “pandering to lobbyists.”

Philip Klein has deals with this claim appropriately at the Examiner:

This is more silliness. To start, Romney signed the health care law with a smiling Ted Kennedy at his side knowing that Democrats had the votes to override any symbolic line-item vetoes of certain provisions. Furthermore, when he signed the law, he had already announced he wasn’t seeking reelection as governor and knew that it would almost certainly fall on Democrats to implement the law. Part of being a limited government Republican is realizing that once you put the infrastructure in place, successors can always add to it.

Regardless, what he actually signed was bad enough.

Additionally, Coulter puts her derision for members of the conservative movement on full display by declaring that the only reason opposition to the law exists is because the nickname ‘Romneycare’ sounds like ‘Obamacare.’ Seriously.

Of course, that’s not the issue at all – nor is the issue whether or not Romneycare is ‘constitutional’ according to the guiding documents of the United States or of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, a straw man Coulter spends the remainder of her column arguing against.

The problems with Romneycare are plenty without adding straw men to the list. Access to insurance has been increased (as have the penalties for not purchasing it). thanks in no small part to Massachusetts’ ability to stick the federal government and national taxpayers with a hefty portion of the program’s tab, but insurance is not care – a fact many casual participants in the health care debate conveniently ignore. The price of care and treatment has skyrocketed, causing the Office of the Attorney General to declare that government price controls (including the requirement that patients pay the difference out of pocket if they see a provider that charges more than the government-approved rate) must be implemented a quickly as possible to stem the rising tide.

The Beacon Hill Institute found that, between Romneycare’s 2006 implementation and 2011:

  • State health care expenditures have risen by $414 million over the period
  • Private health insurance costs have risen by $4.311 billion over the period
  • The federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts
  • Over this period, Medicare expenditures increased by $1.426 billion

Problems abound besides just these key points, but to understand them in their proper context, it’s important to address just what Romneycare’s three-pronged approach to dealing with the “problem” of the state’s uninsured population, which was relatively low at the time (about 550,000 according to state figures, and 657,000 according to the U.S. Census Bureau), consisted of.  Some of the numbers below reference FY 2008 because a portion of this description comes from an analysis I wrote in 2009, when the program was being used as a blueprint for Obamacare.

First, Romneycare expanded subsidies for low-income (below 300% of the federal poverty line) residents to obtain health insurance. While this sounds like a valuable benefit being provided to indigent Massachusetts residents, the funding for those subsidies was primarily pulled from the state’s so-called “free care pool,” which had provided medical and mental health services to poor Bay Staters at locations ranging from community clinics to emergency rooms, regardless of their insurance status. As an ironic result of this program, more poor residents had access to subsidized insurance, but fewer could afford care when faced with a deductible and coinsurance – meaning the amount the patient had to pay up front before insurance kicked in, and the percentage of treatment costs past the deductible that fall on the policyholder. The burden of paying for service the Health Care Reform Act placed on the state’s indigent population, combined with the draining of resources from facilities that had previously cared for the poor free of charge, left a larger number of poor Massachusetts residents without access to care than before the system was ostensibly “reformed” to help them gain more affordable access to care.

Second, under the Health Care Reform Act, all businesses with over 11 employees located within Massachusetts were legally required to provide health coverage for their workers or face a fine of $295 per uninsured employee. Besides being a flagrant violation of the federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) – a federal law that, among other things, prevents states from mandating employer benefits – the employer mandate has failed to fulfill its primary purpose in the eyes of those who pushed for its inclusion in the bill: not enough employers opted to pay the fine (rather than offer health insurance to employees) to cover the portion of the program cost ($45 million) that proponents expected. In fact, by Spring of 2008, only $5 million had been collected from businesses that declined to offer coverage to their workers – an amount less than one-half of one percent of the $1.1 billion the program cost state taxpayers that year. The vast majority of the rest of that cost had to be covered by diverting funds from the “free care pool,” which, again, severely limited the indigent population’s access to care.

Third, Romneycare included its famous individual mandate, making the failure to carry health insurance a violation of state law which that is punishable by a four-figure fine.  That fine, collected along with state income tax, essentially operates as an onerous, regressive tax on the uninsured (despite the fact that those who actually file and pay income taxes are statistically the least at risk of being uninsured). The fine can be avoided if an uninsured individual can prove to the state that “no affordable coverage is available” – something that over 20% of the state’s total uninsured have successfully shown, despite promises that the Health Care Reform Act would bring the cost of insurance down to a level that would be affordable by all of the state’s residents.

A new “independent agency,” called the Connector, was established by the state government to oversee the enactment of the employer and individual mandates and the implementation of health insurance subsidies for the indigent population. Along with monitoring compliance with those mandates, the Connector is responsible for determining what insurance policy each resident must enroll in, be they subsidized or paying full price, and for enforcing a rationing of care to those who qualify for subsidized coverage. Benefits for those who are below 300% of the poverty line (thus qualifying for subsidies) are limited by what the indigent individual is able to pay in terms of premium, deductible, and coinsurance, with those at the bottom of the income pyramid often qualifying for such severely restricted coverage that they would have been far better off remaining uninsured and continuing to receive care at facilities funded by the “free care pool.”

While the establishment of an agency to study the relationship between the uninsured and high health care costs and to help those who qualify for state-administered health coverage programs choose the best fit for their circumstances is not a bad idea in principle – Pennsylvania’s Health Care Cost Containment Council is a good example of one that functions well – the Connector has simply become another regulator, on top of the existing Massachusetts Department of Insurance, that gums up the health care market with excess regulation and adds to the cost of health insurance through the surcharges added to premia in order to fund its continued operation.

As with most government-related oversight boards, the Connector has been beset by requests from special-interest advocates, and it has had a very difficult time saying no to many of them. The result has been the imposition of onerous coverage mandates on the insurance policies state residents are now required by law to purchase. With four dozen coverages that are required to be included on every single policy sold within the state, from coverage for the services of nurse midwives to Mental Health Parity (an innocent-sounding mandate that requires mental health to be covered, dollar-for-dollar, to the same level as physical health), insurance premium and health care costs have skyrocketed under the Health Reform Act. Further, the addition of so many mandates actually caused nearly 200,000 previously insured Bay Staters to lose their coverage status because the prescription drug coverage in their private policies was no longer deemed “up to snuff” by the new gatekeeper of health insurance “quality” in Massachusetts.

Massachusetts’s attempt at health care reform has increased the number of insured residents by 443,000 (covering about 66% of those who previously lacked insurance). However, the program has cost far more than predicted ($1.1 billion in FY 2008 and $1.3 billion in FY09), due in part to the fact that over half of those added to the rolls of the insured qualify for some form of subsidy. As the program was hemorrhaging cash in 2008, current Governor Deval Patrick (D) declared that it would be kept afloat at all costs, even though (quite ironically) the only way to continue funding it was to drain money from the public hospitals and community clinics that had already been providing care, under the free care pool, to those who were now appropriating that funding in the form of insurance subsidies. Further, the state’s redirecting of free care pool funding and imposition of caps on reimbursements for care has created an access problem by dramatically reducing the number of providers available to see and treat patients, regardless of whether those patients have insurance or not – a reinforcement of the fact that insurance, even when it is as universally prevalent as a government can make it, does not equal access to care.

Far from reducing the cost of health insurance, Massachusetts’s individual mandate has driven costs up at twice the average national rate. This was entirely predictable; after all, what can possibly reduce downward pressure on a price more effectively than a legal requirement to purchase it, whatever the cost? According to the Connector, the least expensive price for an insurance policy for a 50 year old non-smoker in 2008 was $3,599 a year ($299.94 per month), with a $2,000 deductible. Next door in Connecticut, that price was just $1,468 a year ($122.36 per month, with a $2,500 deductible) – and Connecticut hadn’t even spent $1.3 billion on controlling and engineering their state’s health care marketplace!

The biggest issue with Romneycare from the conservative perspective, though, is simply the massive expansion of government size, control, and intrusion that it represents. Constitutional or not, similar-sounding to ‘Obamacare’ or not, and effective at expanding insurance or not, the Massachusetts Health Care Reform Act is a law which requires individuals living in the Commonwealth to purchase a good or service, allows the state government to decide what an acceptable form of that good or service is and how it can be used, forces healthy individuals into costly high-risk pools to balance out risk and cost (thereby increasing price and severely limiting choice), and demands that residents of Massachusetts and the other 49 states pay an ever-increasing bill to sustain the ever-growing program.  Whether or not you support Mitt Romney, the simple truth is that Romneycare is in no way a conservative program, and is in no way supportable by conservatives. Period.

On a personal note, I’ve had little use for Ann Coulter for some time now. It’s been clear to me for years that Coulter’s only interest and commitment is herself and the publicity she can garner, not conservatism, the conservative movement, or the GOP. One of my RedState colleagues went so far a few years ago as to call her a “detestable harpy,” and while that may not be the most accurate choice of words to describe her, this latest “contribution” to the primary election discussion simply reinforces Coulter’s lack of direction, conviction, or compass outside of her personal gluttony for publicity.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Even before this, I have wondered why true conservatives pay attention to Coulter. She may be a conservative at heart, but she is more a publicity hound than anything else.

    We should never take anything she says seriously.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    In her own words at CPAC last February:

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

    • jdaman

      She says that, and she also says in that video that she doesn’t like to attack Republicans. Yet in her article she is attacking *every* Republican and Conservative who doesn’t like Romney or Romneycare. She has degraded herself completely with this stunt.
      I sometimes wonder if the only reason she likes Mitt is because her idol Chris Christie endorsed him…

    • edintexas

      Plugging Christie should have told every Conservative, who hadn’t figured her out yet, that she was no longer promoting Conservatives and Conservative values.

      Compared to the average NJ Democrat, Christie is far right. But that is solely due to the fact that NJ Democrats are so radically Far Left. In any normal part of the country, Christie is a Progressive Republican.

    • oldlady

      many of us who worked hard to help Chrisite get elected are deeply disappointed in him for endorsing Romney. Especially so early on. If he had come in behind him for the General it would have gone down a lot better with a lot of us. He’s lost a lot of points with us Tea Party type conservatives here in New Jersey for endorsing a guy who we knew as a liberal Governor of a neighboring State.

  • bcochran1981

    Coulter’s column this week in the vain hope of retaining my last shred of respect for her. Damn you, and thank you, Jeff for ruining that.

    • JSobieski

      Coulter is officially “clown” status in my book.

      • Finrod

        Her only use, really, is when she mocks Democrats and liberals.

      • runner12

        I have never been a big fan of Coulter, but I liked how she took down the Left.
        But she has lost any shred of credibility she had with me with this ridiculous assertion that RomneyCare is somehow conservative.

        She comes across as Romney hack who would sell out her principles to get the guy she supports into the WH.

        Shameful.

      • acat

        Mew

  • vangoghssister

    and now I’m glad. I appreciated her explanation of the crowd mentality/follow the herd tendency of the left, but never imagined she would be one of the crowd herself. Once she came out for Christie, I knew she was a fraud. She’s not even a useful idiot, she’s just useless and an idiot.

    Wonder how far her “numbers” have fallen?

  • joereagan

    I implore you: BOO HER OFF THE STAGE

  • redmymind

    yesterday did a great job on his radio show taking apart Coulter’s odd piece. Good for him!

    Coulter’s become quite the establishment mouthpiece. I don’t take her seriously and switch the channel when she comes on. She seems quite obsessed with Romney and Governor Crispy Creme.

    Her being a “conservative”? LOL. Perfer a transparent liberal such as Rachel Madcow over at MSLSD who sounds a heck of a lot more intelligent than Coulter on Madcow’s worst day.

  • gbenton

    as a liability for Romney is to abandon all reason and conservative principles and put it on a pedestal?

    I’ve been annoyed by Coulter since her incessant pining for Christie because I am diehard Perry supporter – but her pom pom waving cheer for Romneycare means that I can no longer trust a word she says about anything.

    And it’s too bad… because when she lampoons leftists, she’s good.

    I guess what’s unimaginable to me is that she’d be so gonzo as to apply her writing skills to promoting liberal Republicans at the expense of conservative principles.

    Yikes.

    Is there any way someone can pinch me and wake me up because now with all the chips on the line and Obama poised to truly transform our Country into Europe permanently – THIS is what’s happening?

    How does it benefit RINO’s to LOSE in November?

    I just don’t see how Obama doesn’t take all this fodder and just steamroll Romney… even if he doesn’t have a billion dollar war chest.

  • carmen

    …please meet Cheese, Slide and Cracker.

    She’s gone off the deep end.

  • jack0001

    Here is the last line from her article!
    “The problem isn’t health insurance mandates. The problem isn’t Romneycare. The problem isn’t welfare reform. The problem is Democrats.”

    The problem IS democRATS! they have always been the problem! They will continue to be the problem.

    All major problem in this country whether it be economic, financial, energy related, or medical, can be layed at the feet of the socialist democRATS!

    If Romney is the Republican nominee, i am going to vote for him enthusiastically and with vigor.

    I am not buying the liberals argument that has seeped into conservatives conversations about his electibility. That is democRAT code for he cant win so dont vote!

    He has the number one qualification to be president of the US.
    HE IS NOT PRESIDENT OBAMA THE OBOZO!

    If obozo is re-elected the following will happen:
    -he will nominate SCOTUS judges like kagen and sotomayor
    -he will continute to empower unions
    -he will block the keystone pipeline and energy projects
    -he will not repeal obamacare
    -he will continue to appoint the most liberal of federal judges
    -he will continue to run america like the Chicago mafia
    -he will continue to play golf
    -he will continue to spend trillions of dollars of printed money
    -he will continue to shakedown oil companies like BP after spills
    -he will continue to bow to foreign leaders
    -he will continue to slash military spending
    -he will continue to wreck our foreign policy
    -he will continue to advance his socialist policies by executive order

    I dont care if our nominee is Paul, Satorium, Romney, or Gingrich,
    I voting for the Republcian nominee come hell or high water.

    • jack0001

      Only liberals would use a Russian word to describe a high level government position.

    • trickamsterdam

      Are you Ann Coulter?

      ***

      Since she’s blowing up her credibility in her jihad against Romney’s (peace be upon him) enemies…I wonder if she’ll get 72 virgins when she goes to “Mitt Heaven”?

      Great Diary. I’ve heard some people say RomneyCare wasn’t working, but also heard that it was popular w/MA residents. Wasn’t sure what to believe. Now I can have an informed opinion: it doesn’t appear to be working. Probably people there just like the concept and don’t know the details.

      Where I differ w/ the Diarist and some others on the thread is that I don’t think she’s doing this for attention. I think it’s one of the most selfless things she’s ever done: she really thinks this guy can beat Obama and is willing to risk alienating her fans to support him.. I think she’s doing it for the US.

      She’s wrong of course. He’s not electable. Obama will out-spend him, attack him w/vast numbers of MSM proxies, and define him as a Wall St parasite. They’ll start a whispering campaign about his religion, and because of his liberal record he’ll have trouble w/ the base as far as fundraising and GOTV.

      Where the problem comes in is that she doesn’t know how to persuade, only attack. That’s fine when she’s attacking liberals and you already agree w/ her, but now that she’s got to convince people to change their minds on something…she can’t do it.

      Instead of trying to make an electability argument, which people might listen to in their desperation to beat Obama, she says he’s the most conservative, which everyone knows isn’t true. She then mocks the people of SC, saying it’s an example of them “returning to their Democratic roots”, by voting against Romney, which makes no sense.

      Now this…”Three cheers for RomneyCare”.

      I avoid reading her now too, and she used to be my favorite. This could’ve been the greatest year ever for conservatism….and it’s probably going to end up being its worst.

      • WillWong

        They?ll start a whispering campaign about his religion

        When Evangelicals start a conversation of Mormonism, they are usually crucified…Let’s see what happens when Obama and the MSM start that discussion.

    • WillWong

      ?The problem isn?t health insurance mandates. The problem isn?t Romneycare. The problem isn?t welfare reform. The problem is Democrats.?

      What do conservatives do when faced with lots of Democrats…. You lead by providing a conservative rationale to the problem at hand and not by compromising your core principles. Politics is a battle of reason and ideas. You don’t deal with Democrats by cozying up to them!

  • brand

    Now THIS is a serious take-down. Thanks for all the time/effort in pulling this together. I don’t think I’ve seen a better condemnation of the abomination that is Romneycare.. or for Ann Coulter, for that matter.

    I too have winced at times when she’s screechnig about something or another, but her support of Romney.. and now Romneycare basically seals the deal for me. I’m very glad that Laura Ingraham has disagreed with Ann for a few months – Ann is off her freaknig rocker.

  • macbookben

    I thought you and I had something special. I remember that day in back in ’99 when I started reading your columns. You helped me to see the truth and light of conservatism, and no one could defend it as well as you.

    But you’ve changed. I mean I get the whole Christie thing. But Mitt? That’s too much of a stretch for either one of us, frankly.

    So now I think we need to start seeing other people. I’ve always been quite fond of Michelle Malkin and Dana Loesch.

    I’ll always remember the laughs we shared, Ann. And I still think you’re smokin’ hot and all, but this hurts too much and I don’t think I can “just be friends” right now.

    Maybe things will change after November, who knows?

    I hope you’re happy with Mitt.

    -MacBB

  • tpnoga1

    If any conservative who supports Mitt Romney is now invalid in your minds? So, our heroes of 2010 (i.e. Chris Chistie, Nikki Haley, Bob McDonnell) are now enemies in your eyes. How sad. I am every bit as conservative as almost anyone on this site and I am firmly for Mitt Romney in this election. He is not my ideal candidate, but none of my ideal candidates decided to run (i.e. Jeb, Mitch, Jindal, Rubio, Ryan, etc). It’s fine if you don’t like Romney, but the way y’all vilify those who do like him is not conservative. Reagan would not like Redstate, that’s for sure.

    BTW, Gingrich is now contesting how delegates from Florida are appropriated AFTER he lost? He didn’t seem to mind the rules until he lost. You know who else has that tendency? Democrats.

    • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

      That anybody who supports Mitt Romney “isn’t a conservative.”

      • tpnoga1

        Sorry, it was more of a comment about the those who comment on Redstate.

      • tpnoga1

        …to Erick’s radio program on 750 WSB and a little tired of the Romney bashing. He can be worse than Maddow when it comes to Mitt. Just wish he would tone it down and respect the 11th commandment. Mitt has to be a decent guy or all of our heroes wouldn’t be supporting him. IMHO.

        • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

          Not primaries. This is where we pick apart our candidates.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            … like the deranged Rockefeller Republicans who claimed that Ronald Reagan’s run for Governor was the tip of the spear for fascism.

        • greeneyeshade

          Romney is the guy who suspended it Iowa

        • WillWong

          ” Mitt has to be a decent guy or all of our heroes wouldn?t be supporting him. IMHO.”

          Who are your heroes? Ann Coulter? Bob Dole? McCain?

          What about Rick Perry? Herman Cain? Michael Reagan? Art Lafter? Nancy Reagan?

          Romney and his ilk are responsible for 99% of the negative ads in the most negative campaign in Florida’s history! You call that decent?

    • Ann_W

      Gingrich is a sore loser, bashes capitalism, tries to scare people away from reforming entitlements, proposes ridiculous new programs, makes dishonest robocalls, and doesn’t think he has any personal accountability. Sounds more like a Democrat every day.

    • Finrod

      Looking the other way when people don’t follow the rules? THAT is the tendency of Democrats.

      The RNC rule is that all contests before April 1 are to be proportional. Florida figures that since it broke one rule (about when it can hold its primary) and was punished for it, then that gives Florida the right to ignore all the rules.

      Oh, and my problem with conservatives supporting Romney is that Romney Is Not Conservative.

    • Common_Cents

      FL should be proportional from day 1 when they violated the rule.

      FL was punished for half delegates.

      Making FL follow the proportional rule is not punishment to FL, they didn’t lose any more delegates.

      It is punishment to the voters and fairness.

      Should we just suspend rules for anyone anytime we want?

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        Newt Gingrich: sore loser.

      • snowshooze

        First thing that has to happen is to produce proof of harm done.
        Newt has that proof, I do not necessairily consider it sore-loser syndrome, just business.
        Same kind of thing happened in Virginia, the rule had to be challenged in order to force change.

        • lapert

          If he had a problem with the way delegates were being distributed he should have brought it up beforehand – if he had won a plurality do you think he would now be complaining?

          In a way it is the same as in Virginia, if they had challenged the rule beforehand they wouldn’t have to act like sore losers now – and in both cases, they won’t get their way.

          • avagreen

            One battle at a time.

            He’s already being criticized for mentioning it now, and for criticizing other people ………
            Should he have added this to the list as well?

          • lapert

            Is this not part of running for the nomination? Even if we dismiss (as his campaign did today) the notion that he would do it out of a sense of it being the right rule he at least should have foreseen the likelihood of him losing the primary and benefiting from it. He would have been criticized a lot less for raising it a month or two ago than he is now because, you know it wouldn’t be an obvious ploy of a loser trying to change the rules after the game.

            Basically, much like Perry’s suit in Virginia, it is more likely to draw attention to the poorly run campaign and process failures than it is to change the outcome.

          • avagreen

            nt

          • snowshooze

            Same with Virginia.
            No damage, no problem. No need to fix anything.
            Jsob can probably explain this with more words.

          • lapert

            First, this is not a legal issue it is a party process issue – so any ripeness concerns don’t exist. Second, they were wrong in Virginia that is why they lost – if they had brought the suit in the fall the rule would have been struck down. Third, when you openly admit that you wouldn’t have brought it up if it benefited you at the expense of your competition you kind of lose any argument that it is about fairness, justice or the right result.

          • snowshooze

            Only that it was brought up.
            It may not be a ” Legal Issue ”
            However, in Virginia, the Attorny General did become involved.
            It can be made into a ” Legal Issue ” quite easily.

          • snowshooze

            Romney would have brought it up.
            Either way, this issue was going to come up.

          • lapert

            Virginia was a legal issue, they lost in court. Florida is not a legal issue and in no way can be made into one this is solely up to the RNC and the Florida GOP.

            Maybe Romney would have brought it up, and he too would have been a sore loser for doing so and would get nowhere with it.

            It absolutely matter when it is brought up, if it was brought up in September as a discussion on the right way to punish Flordia, maintain fairness among all states and other RNC interests that would be one thing but bringing it up now makes it solely about Gingrich needing delegates and trying to change the rules to get them and that means even if the RNC wanted to change it they couldn’t without looking like they are interfering on Gingrich’s behalf.

    • scottishjew

      if you support Mitt Romney, you’re not a conservative.

      Yeah, I know David Limbaugh said he’d vote for Romney and some other undeniably true conservatives said they’d do the same. But your choice reflects where you stand. Romney is for government run health care. He’s for permanent, COLA’s for minimum wages and lots of other liberal silliness. If you vote for him, that’s what you’re getting. You’ve traded your conservative principles just to “beat” Obama. But when Romney’s president, expect liberal judges and liberal policies.

      As I said before, if I voted for Lenin, Id be a socialist.

  • Juggernaut

    electable for multiple reasons, its like the party has been turned left while some have become apologists for the worst candidate.

    Coulter is a RINO, a NYC RINO who has dated many liberals and odd balls.

  • carolynr

    This was at the Prayer Breakfast that he managed to attend this year…could it be the election year…but here it is:

    “And I think to myself, if I?m willing to give something up as somebody who?s been extraordinarily blessed, and give up some of the tax breaks that I enjoy, I actually think that?s going to make economic sense. But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus?s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,’” Obama said, noting Jewish and Islamic teachings say much the same thing

    This was his substantiation for Dodd Frank and Obamacare. People…we have to do something about this before these Evangelicals believe this BS…and yes…I believe in God…but this is preying on the ignorance of people that cannot see what the heck is really going on here.

    • greeneyeshade

      “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required”

      Required by God, not the government or its officials. Conflating the two is blasphemous.

  • lineholder

    If I could trouble you to answer a few questions…

    (1) Has there been any significant decrease in the number of primary care physicians offering services in Mass? Or is just primarily in the public hospitals and clinics you mentioned?

    (2) Is the Mass. Connector the equivalent to IPAB? Or is it more along the lines of filling the same role that the “Secretary will determine” provisions in O-care fulfill?

    Once again, thanks for the information.

    P.S. Hey, I kept it to only two questions, okay? My little mind is filled to the brim with questions about how the socialized health care model works and the impact that it has across society as a whole.

    • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

      (1) The physician shortage is significant. Here are a couple links spanning a decent amount of time that address that – one from 2008 and one from 2011

      (2) The connector is a clearinghouse for pool/policy participation and coverages. It is basically a statewide version of the regional “insurance exchanges” that Obamacare establishes.

  • reggie182

    For years she has espoused conservative views in an endless number of books, columns, and TV appearances, but something about her just didn’t seem right.

    I’ve heard others speculate that it is possible Ann was playimg a character (a political “Borat” if you will) for years, and she didn’t really believe all those things she was saying. Perhaps that’s the case and we are beginning to see the real Ann.

    Anyway, her behavior these past few weeks has been appalling, and her credibility is most likely permanently damaged.

    • tpnoga1

      …because she supports a GOP candidate that you don’t, her whole career as a conservative is called into question. C’mon, isn’t that a little extreme?

      • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

        n/t

        • tpnoga1

          ..I agree her column seems a bit off. I don’t like Romneycare any more than I like Obamacare, but I am pretty sure she is really a conservative. But I am biased, I have an Anne Coulter doll. I used to keep it in my office at work, I called it co-worker repellent.

        • scottishjew

          you support socialized medicine, as Coulter is obviously doing, yeah she isnt a conservative anymore.

      • scottishjew

        If you support Romneycare, like Coulter does, can you really be a conservative.

        Being conservative actually means something. We can quibble around the edges of it. But SOCIALIZED MEDICINE is not conservative.

  • greeneyeshade

    This leftward move has been going on for some time. Glad somebody finally noticed.

    In a few years the Coulterpost will be the new Huff-post.

  • aesthete

    That’s pretty much it, and always has been. Expecting her to engage in serious analysis or education is like expecting a Chihuahua to recite a sonnet from Romeo and Juliet.

  • scottishjew

    I used to like Coulter. Read all her books. If she wants to support Mitt Platitudes, fine. But she’s now become a part of the “mob” she decries in Demonic. She’s just one of the hundreds of Romney disciples who spit out vitriol at everyone who runs against Romney. Her comments about South Carolinians was most revealing.

    Im a right wing conservative from New Jersey. But we are hunted animals. Most Northeastern Republicans are liberal Republicans at best.

    Oh, Romney is for mandatory increases in the minimum wage. Ann?

  • earlgrey

    No desire to keep them. someone suggested I use the Ann Coulter novelty doll (that says conservative things) as target practice.

  • avagreen

    ………most squirrels do.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    They’re hoping a dirty and prolonged primary fight takes care of that for them. It will be an issue going forward, right or wrong, but the libs arent gonna stick their neck out when they have absolutely no incentive to do so.

    • trickamsterdam

      I’m not sure you were responding to me, but I think you were because I was the only one to refer to the fact that Obama’s media proxies would start a whispering campaign about his religion.

      Made a mental note to post the first one to come up. Didn’t take long, and I wasn’t even looking. Here’s the John King clip off of RCP:

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/02/05/cnns_john_king_calls_mitt_romney_governor_mormon.html

      They’re going to set it up, by reminding everyone he’s a Mormon every chance they get. Once everyone knows, stage two will begin. That will be an near-endless loop of “investigative specials”.

      These will be blamed on conservative Christians. The MSM will say “we have to cover it because conservative Christians have questions about Mormons”. So they will get to have their cake and eat it too.

      The MSM aren’t the bigots. Conservative Christians are.

      It’s not a “silly idea”. They have no incentive? Of course they do:

      To scare independents away from Romney and depress Republican turn-out. And it will all be done through MSM proxies…no elected Dems, no ads paid for by Dems.

      The perfect political crime.

      PS – Coulter is also on RCP and is now saying semi-nice things about Newt now that she feels secure about Romney. Instead of being crazy, a pathological liar, a failed speaker, less conservative than Romney he was “great for many years” but “just isn’t a strong General election candidate”.

      Shame she didn’t frame the argument that way from the beginning because now her other statement that she wishes we could wrap this up “so the era of Republican good feelings will begin” ain’t gonna happen.

      Not for her (likely ever again). Not for Romney, either. The era of good feelings can begin when he beats Pres Obama (w/out my money, I’m not giving him a nickel and I usually give at least a few hundred).

      Then he will have proved to me he at least has a skill: getting elected. Until then, he’s just a near-sure loser (his negative rating is already higher than Obama’s in many polls), and a liberal Republican on top of it.

      No Alamo type glory that you’d get w/ a Newt campaign.

      Romney’s campaign will be the Bataan Death March. Slow, painful, lonely…and just as much of a slaughter.

      BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Just because someone lambasts lefties doesnt mean they arent: a) an idiot or b) a fraud. somehting for you all to consider going forward (cough Trump cough Cain cough Bachmann).

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      About four years ago I wrote an essay about Ann and her style and was lambasted here on Red State.

      Ann Coulter (and Mark Levin) Have perfected a system. They lay low for a while, then whenever they have a new book to promote they say something absolutely outrageous and insulting. This gets them the notoriety they need to go on all the talking head shows and pump their new book.

  • celador2

    When I read one Coulter bomb article off Drudge she made a list of abortion related policies Romney did in the name of life and then she got to Romneycare on his behalf. Her advocacy does get attention but her adversarial fight is with free market conservatives. Correct a state governor can do what a president and Congress can not constitutitionally. But she finds merit in Romney care and the tyranical role the state plays.

    If the taxpayers are going to provide health care then the ones who can pay but do not must have a policy to cover costs if they get sick is the Romney care premise.

    Why not send them a bill after the service, let them pay on time or take out a loan? Why the mandate for pre-payment of health care?

    John Stossel did a study in 2007 and saw little hope for costs dropping without competition which did not exist in 2007. Compettition eliminates waste and drives innovation as it lowers costs. That was pre Obamacare, which has further entrenched guarantees and took over states delivery and funding systems. Obamcare offers access but not cost falling.

    Third party insurers keep costs high as there is little if any competition and patients and providers of services do not negotiate fees.

    We need new health care solutions not more subsidies to the current system of big insurers- HMOs and now IPAB and other government panels. Obamacare centralizes and turns over to bureacrats decisions you and I once made with a doctor. And it costs more than health care did 20 years ago.

    After the government take over a patient may not be able to pay a fee for a service.
    Lets get to work on new models of health care insurance, ways to pay and provide and get out of Romneycare-Obamacare.

    One Republican governor declined to join his state to the Obamacare lawsuits–guess who. Chris Christie.

    If Romney wins I am worried if he is named VP. Christie stands little chance of carrying NJ and he stands apart from the lawsuits v Obamacare.

  • celador2

    Coulter is a pundit and accountable to no voter. She can ride the tide of inflammed talk and wait out the outrage. The attention grows her profile and profits her brand. ZAP.

    But , her defense of a government run health care system in a state is not going to be forgotten.I doubt she will sell many books or be quite so sought after as a guest pundit if she continues to target constitutional conservatives.

    She is not really saying Democrats are the problem, is she? Its conservatives for not seeing the Romneycare light.

  • celador2

    In 1999-2000 or so when Matt Drudge had a Fox TV show on Saturday Coulter was a frequent guest. She thought she might run in a primary against Shays for the House from CT. She did not but she might ruin for office if the conditions are right.

    Or she might win a political appointment in a new Republican administration.

    All this uproar she is causing in shock jock fashion paves the way for attention at CPAC— and beyond?

  • krish

    It is always about $$$. May be there is a big book deal for Coulter & from Romney buddy or publisher owned by Bain? who knows – tentacles of wall street money can buy anyone!

    Also, Romney wins primary & loses to Obama – it will be good business for so called conservative news people – Fox, Drudge, Talk show hosts, conservative columnists, authors….

    Come on it, it is not a tough choice – livelihood vs. country’s future …Screw the country!
    Just like the crony capitalists in DC & Wall Street!

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    The tell us exactly what we want to hear. Its an old game. And a pointless one. And its a complete turnoff for the vast majority of millenials regardless of faith or political bent.

    The left wing media is of course worthless, but anyone who thinks theyve been well served by Fox News or Hannity or Michael Savage (to name but a few) is fooling themselves.

  • Elpasoan

    Levin missed the point of the article. It was not meant to be a defense of Romneycare (the title is sarcastic). She is not advocating that Romneycare was a good idea or that it should be started in other states. She is pointing out that the assumption that Romneycare and Obamacare are the same is an incorrect one. One is unconstitutional and one is not. One is a 2000 page monstrosity and the other is not. She points out that in fact Romneycare has failed due to it being used as a structure by liberals to add measures that lead to redistribution of wealth and more government control of healthcare. So her conclusion is that it is a failure, but not even in the same ballpark as Obamacare. She also points out that in fact the mandate per se is not the worst part of Obamacare or Romneycare as it has been portrayed recently. It is the government control of healthcare.

    She also supports Romney despite his mistakes because she knows he is way better than Obama, that there is no reason to believe whatsoever that he will do nothing other than repeal Obamacare and he is the only candidate that can beat Obama in November (I agree with her on this 100%). She is dispelling the myths about a complicated issue so people can understand what happened more clearly and understand the history and not just assume he is the same as Obama, which could not be further from the truth.

    • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

      There’s no detectable sarcasm in the title or the article.

  • jeffperren

    Dr. Hsieh, who writes frequently (and knowledgeably) on health care and politics, has written the definitive essay on RomneyCare:

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-truth-about-romneycare/?singlepage=true