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Napolitano’s Police State: TSA Retaliates Against Tyner for Asserting His Rights

By: LaborUnionReport (Diary)  |  November 16th, 2010 at 12:00 PM  | 

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So, let’s get this straight:

It’s okay for the TSA to grope nuns, but Muslim women are exempt (nothing beyond the head and neck). We cannot profile potential terrorists, but it’s okay to molest three-year olds (except we won’t call it molest because it’s the government doing it). Muslim men won’t go through body imaging machines, but it’s okay to grope non-Muslims’ genitals.

And, just to be clear, when one guy expresses his displeasure about his “junk” being touched, the TSA wants to make an example out of him by retaliating and launching an investigation into the guy who resisted the TSA’s overtures.

The Transportation Security Administration has opened an investigation targeting John Tyner, the Oceanside man who left Lindbergh Field under duress on Saturday morning after refusing to undertake a full body scan.

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Michael J. Aguilar, chief of the TSA office in San Diego, called a news conference at the airport Monday afternoon to announce the probe. He said the investigation could lead to prosecution and civil penalties of up to $11,000.

TSA agents had told Tyner on Saturday that he could be fined up to $10,000.

“That’s the old fine,” Aguilar said. “It has been increased.”

You know, the picture of Napolitano with the little mustache was taken off of Sunday’s post because a couple of people thought it was a little offensive.  I was wrong to have done that–take down the picture, that is.

These people are sick!

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  • jollygiantsd

    … here we have a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, yet those that assert their rights under the 4th Amendment are prosecuted in order to be made an example of. Scare others from standing up for their rights.
    I hope he counter sues under the 4th Amendment and has it taken all the way to the Supreme Court to be found that this is all illegal.

    • jollygiantsd

      I added a few thoughts of my own on this subject:

      http://www.redstate.com/jollygiantsd/2010/11/16/tsa-expands-ignorance-of-the-4th-amendment/

    • jackbenimble

      It is hard to imagine a more clear cut violation of civil rights. If the government can do this to a person in an airport without any probable cause what is to stop them from doing it to you on an Interstate Highway or in a Post Office?

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    But then it’ll come down to a judge deciding what is “unreasonable”… good luck with that…

    Not to mention the “treat everyone like a hardcore criminal” part of the deal instead of taking effective screening measures based on demographics, questioning and (gasp) profiling etc like the Israelis who have had a plane hijacked/taken down in ages prior to 9/11…

    • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

      meant to say: “like the Israelis who haven’t had a plane hijacked/taken down in ages prior to 9/11

      • edintexas

        I knew that is what you meant. My wife and I are “senior citizens”, we are used to automatically understanding the intended message, rather than the spoken word.

        • myron_j_poltroonian

          “I don’t know what you mean, I only know what you say.” Of course she was from the last quarter of the 19th century. Regarding the drivers of those newfangled (at the time) automobiles, she said: “Why don’t you go where your looking!”

          Yes, I to sometimes tend to type ahead of my spelling/structure. (Easy to do what with sticky keys [literally] and/or the occasional “Brain-Phardt”.

          • myron_j_poltroonian

            “Your” should’ve been You’re”, of course.

      • aesthete

        in a region of the world with many more terrorist attacks. (In fairness, they have less flights, as well.)

  • talgus

    The goal: A pedestrian society. Far easier to control.
    Love the: “we get to make rules/laws/and punishments as we go”. What an attitude.

    Franklin is spinning. time to harness the spinning founders and hook them up to dynamos run our new electric transportation system

  • itdiehard

    Will Barry allow his children to be pat down like the three year old child.

    • voicefromthevoid

      There’s nothing communist wouln’t do if it furthers his cause.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    CAIR is likely being blowhards over the whole thing to puff themselves up…

    On the other hand if there are special rules for muslims then the whole policy can likely be attacked and thrown out in court for both being unreasonable and for putting one group above the law etc.

    • Scope

      They are allowed to opt out of Obamacare also, because of religious reasons.

      • Next93

        Muslims get to opt out of Obamacare on religious grounds, but Christians who object to abortion funding CAN’T??

        Sorry for the threadjack, but that’s a new one on me.

        As for Muslims getting a pass, that seems to be the nature of the beast; I’ve yet to meet a Muslim who didn’t feel that he/she should be have the right to choose which rules applied to them at any given time.

        • Scope

          from what I’ve read, the Muslims don’t believe in any kind of “insurance”, therefor they can opt out. Good snark though.

          • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

            Come on 2012… come on… that’s a good 2012… (whistles loudly) Come on 2012…

            If only that worked like it does for the pupster,..

  • pastisprolog

    My mom’s family fled Hitler’s Germany and my dad fled Musolini’s Italy. This would all seem very familiar to them, and to people who live today in China, Cuba, Viet Nam and other dictatorships.

    The founders of our country, who originally pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor that we might be free, would be ashamed of us now, lining up even with our little children to be searched like convicts entering prison, or who live in a police state.

    I sense a line has been crossed and dred this: Ten, nine, eight, … What happens at zero?

    What cost will have to be paid to get liberty back. What will be the cost if we don’t?

    • chamberD

      When the TSA and OBAMA decide to give a pass to Muslims and to mandate unreasonable search of non-Muslims, we have reached a tipping point.

      When the bad guys –by executive pronouncemet — can no longer be labeled as bad guys, and when law-abiding, patriotic, Amercan citizens themselves become the subjects of intense scrutiny, then we have passed a point of no return.

      The purpose, the stated purpose, of denying to Americans their Constitutional rights of not being subjected to unreasonable search and seizure is violated for the purpose of giving deference to those members of a class of persons who , within their ranks, are known to have plotted to kill us — and have done so, then a line has been crossed.

      Then that government is ILLEGITIMATE. For they have FAILED in their primary responsibility of protecting their citizens, and have instead TAKEN THE SIDE of the enemy who seeks our subjugation.

    • markvol

      if the election of 2012 doesn’t work out for us, and the Fed doesn’t
      send us into a black hole with their “easing policy”. I’d say we are at
      about two and still counting. But I’m just a right winged extremist.

      We’ve given up way too much freedom for too little security.
      Doubt I’ll ever fly again.

      • rivahmitch

        AMEN!!

        • myron_j_poltroonian

          While I loved seeing the “Silent Majority” rise up again, as they did in the election’s of 1980/84 and then again in 1994 (that one did a lot of good two years later, didn’t it), I hold little hope that “the will of the people” will be allowed to pass. As Stalin noted: “It doesn’t matter who votes. It only matters who counts the votes”. I said it during the Clinton administration: “It’s coming.”. That was during the Janet Reno/Jamie Garelick “Actions” to “Save the Children” at Waco, Texas (by killing them), and at Ruby Ridge, Idaho (by killing a mother with a babe in arms in order to capture someone who may (repeat, may) have violated the minimum rifle barrel length by 1/16th of an inch). To what “It” am I referring? The revolution by Americans to return our country back to it’s constitutional roots. Now, much to my sad recognition, the ongoing “Bloodless Coup” of the left has not yet been confronted by the “Non-Bloodless Counter Revolution”. Am I happy over this apparent inevitability? Hell no! Am I resigned to it’s inevitability? Sadly, reluctantly, disgustedly, I’m beginning to see no other way out of this decent into Fascism. Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler would both be proud of GE, PHILLIPS, GENERAL MOTORS, CHRYSLER and A.I.G., (or anything run and/or funded/controled by George Soros) et al, and their conjoining with big government to curtail competition from their competitors. God preserve us. He knows the current administration (a.k.a. “Regime”) won’t. I say that not as an overtly religious man, but “I Am An American” who firmly believes in the founding principles of our country, first, last and always. Speaking of which: Always aim just below the blue helmet. No matter what color it is. According to a dear friend of mine: “Paranoia is what they call perceptivity, before you’re proven right”. By the way, When this speech becomes illegal, I’ll become a criminal: “I may become an enemy of the state, but never of the people”.

  • spim

    … in the security checkpoints

    (I am, no doubt, the millionth person to suggest this.)

    ah … equality …. I remember it well

  • edintexas

    I wish I could say (and believe) that the citizens will not tolerate this assault on their liberty. But we all know that while I can say it, it isn’t necessarily true.

    Being retired, I had the luxury of giving up flying when we got to the point checking all footwear. I had previously had problems with my boots (metal shanks), so on my last flight I wore sneakers, sure that I wouldn’t set off the metal detector. And I found out that I had to take them off and put them on the belt. That’s when I decided I didn’t need to fly any longer.

    The “wonderful” part of all this is the fact that neither the full body scanner, nor the “enhanced pat down”, will discover items concealed within the body (as the bomber who tried to assassinate the head of Saudi Security did). Gee, you think Ali al Bomu will figure that one out here?

    I can’t say these measures haven’t kept us safe, but I can’t say that the lack of successful attacks isn’t the result of increased efforts by our military and intel agencies, and less than stellar performance on the part of terrorists like the “Shoe Bomber”, “Fruit of Kaboom bomber” and the “Times Square bomber”.

    What I can say, with all certainty, is that there has never been a security system which was foolproof. No matter how intrusive the security methods, a way to avoid/defeat them will eventually be found. And excessive security is one of the aims of terrorist acts. It causes unrest among the populace (and we are starting to see that, aren’t we?) and that helps the ultimate aims of the terrorists.

  • earlgrey

    the post office needs the business and it would be kind of cool. He can take the envelopes to the TSA and make them dig into each one for the $1.

    I know this isn’t really viable, but fun thought.

  • citizenjerry

    I used to be disgusted. Now I’m just amused. This is only the latest outrage from Janet Incompetano and the rest of the regime.
    Time to get busy and make sure this ragtag menagerie of kleptocrats are kicked to the curb in 2012.

  • drfredc

    Seems one way to make a statement about this stupidity is to show up for their airplane check in in a bikini or speedo swim suit, especially if they are members of the sagging citizen crowd.

    • Duke

      You could take tape, either black electrical or masking tape, and spell out on the front of your undies: TSA SUX. Then go through the nuggie scanner machine like there’s nothing wrong.

      Hey, do we have freedom of speech, or not?!

      • acat

        Seems like that’s fair, right?

        Mew

    • Finrod

      HillBuzz suggested folks go in their underwear, which is a variant on the same idea, whereas a LiveJournal friend of mine suggests that men wear kilts and go commando underneath; hey, if you’re Scottish or part Scottish or just like drinking Scotch, you can claim it’s part of your culture.

      • earlgrey

        I have read that if these machines are not installed correctly than there may be harmful effects on the body. I won’t go into one again.

        If I get pulled aside I’ll just take off my clothes and stand there in my swimsuit.

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          on the outside of your underwear.

    • myron_j_poltroonian

      I am always amused whenever I see them primly pedaling their high dollar Shwins down the roadways wearing their bulging “Expandex”.

  • spainishirish

    Call a hearing pronto and make it so this pathetic excuse of humanity can’t even get a job with…the Obama Administration. Humiliate her to the point of no return.

    This cannot stand.

  • major_sensible

    John Tyner Legal Defense Fund Moneybomb, anyone?

    • checkinout6000

      Im sure the pro bonos are all lining up and picking straws over who gets this one.

      What would be funny is if a search of his family tree revealed some recognized minority group.

      They could really hand it to them on that one.

      This guy is already achieved stardom.

      Let the TSA have their 15 minutes.

      It would certainly be their death knell.

  • electroncollector

    I just posted this elsewhere but it seems to fit here well. Might as well have a little fun while ranting about TSA.

    Here is a tip for any interested entrepreneur…start selling burkas at the airport. I am sure hawking any kind of goods at the airport is a no no, let alone burkas, so you will need a study supply of replacement vendors. But somebody quick on their feet could make a lot of money fast…or end-up in jail.

    Sorry you will not sell anything to me as I am driving all day to be with family for Thanksgiving then driving all day to get back home (800 miles each way).

  • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

    Better image here. http://www.elliott.org/blog/its-time-to-say-no-to-the-tsas-full-body-scanners/

    This is truly what a nation overtaken by insanity looks like.

  • melissatx

    and Gannies and Cindy Lou Who’s are patted down like convicts, the terrorists have won. When we have to go out of our way to view everyone as a criminal and allow those who we should be narrowing in on to opt out for religious objections, then they have already won, and we are fools. Hear that Janet? Fools.

  • nycenterright

    that this policy is stupid and counterproductive, that’s a pretty good sign that the TSA has lost its mind.

    • checkinout6000

      But then again when did she ever have one?

  • Old_Crow

    private contractors do the job. The govt still pays the bill so the airports don’t lose money. That is where our momentum should be focused. I travel over 100,000 air miles a year and the professionalism of the foreign screeners is much higher than the GED wannabe’s the TSA has hired.

    Anyone want to start a private screening company?

    • myron_j_poltroonian

      How about calling it: “FeelnGroupe”?

  • Scope

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-218132.html

    Who has investments in the federal contract with Rapiscan to manufacture the full body scan devices, yup, George Soros.

    Follow the money.

    • blooch

      Funny how he keeps popping up in all the wrong places.

      “Chertoff

  • pamela1631

    To call your Representative and ask for the TSA to be defunded.

    Has anyone realized that after the Al Qaeda yo-yos stated they were going to send women suicide bombers through with bomb breast implants, HSA comes out with this latest assault on our freedoms and persons.?

    Can we say jumping through hoops like trained animals boy and girls? We are being laughed at by the perps. Let’s make the idiot heathen Americans assault their men, women and children.

    • checkinout6000

      And my senators as well. And every airline I ever rode on. Had them all on the phone yesterday for the entire afternoon. Think they all know where I stand and bent their ear on a few other lame duck issues.

      Im sure they will hear from me again before Christmas.

      Yeah that right, I said Christmas, go ahead and ban me!

      I would hope I wouldnt have to worry about that here but you do have to watch where you say it. Thats why I give people a dirty look when they tell me “Happy Holidays”. I even ask to this day “which one?”.

  • lineholder

    “The TSA

  • littlekitty

    Like a mall, a restaurant, a stadium? I’m a long time, frequent flier, and I have made the decision not to fly any longer until this craziness is stopped. My air miles be damned. I have cancelled my upcoming trips. I have a week-long conference in January that I have to go to, and I will be driving half-way across the United States to get there. So, that stops things for me…for the time being. But, if any of us think this nonsense will only be limited to the American flying public, think again. Naked scanners are not only at airports. As has been said, this is not about security. This is security “theater.” And make NO mistake, this is about getting the American public used to having our personal space violated in every possible way by our government. This is about getting our children to accept that they can and WILL be touched and violated by government, regularly. It’s about getting everyone used to letting the government do whatever they want to us.

    So, what happens when a grocery store gets blown up? Or a movie theater? Or a mall? Or a stadium? Guaranteed, once something else is blown up, we will be forced to endure the same kind of security theater, and more, just to go about our daily lives. This nonsense needs to stop! We NEED TO PROFILE people. I don’t give a rats you know what whether people like it or not. I have flown in and out of Israel many times. Their security is the best in the world. And profiling is NOT a dirty word there. I for one, am NOT going to submit to my government telling me to bare it all in order to get on a plane. I am not going to submit to my government doing a full-on, up close and personal, groping of my breasts, feeling my vulva, spreading my butt cheeks and feeling around in there to give everyone the “idea” that we are being protected by our government. It’s BS. And it’s sexual molestation. EVERY – SINGLE – TIME.

    • izoneguy

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    • momma

      I would like to get the article from arstechnica, but it links to an ‘oops’ page. Thanks for the info!

      • http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/lgartin wdgf

        http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/11/fda-sidesteps-safety-concerns-over-tsa-body-scanners.ars

  • gumbeaux

    This needs to stop and soon. Everyone needs to get after their Senator and Rep to stop this. It is a violation of our rights and decency. The Israelis don’t go this far and they have a better system that DOES NOT EXCLUDE MUSLIMS. OUR SYSTEM EXCLUDES MUSLIMS, the very people we are trying to prevent from blowing up our planes. What does this tell you? WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

  • atillathehun

    Lets see. Privacy extended to late term abortion and Muslims but the average white guy gets charged with a crime on a verbal objection to a body search.
    When is the sleeping giant going to realize that the Constitution applies to all of us?

  • bus2dc

    The government has already effectively become a soft dictatorship. It will only get worse. That we would put up with this abuse for even ONE DAY shows you how deeply in denial most of the country is.

    PROFILING is NOT a dirty word! What is the matter with everyone? This is simply more “spin” and WE have the power to stop it. When did it become WRONG to look for people that FIT THE DESCRIPTION of possible suspects?? Instead, citizens are abused while the potential criminals are EXEMPT because of the “Sharia” law we said we are not bowing to. RIGHT. To say nothing of the MADNESS of putting people through a scanner which has NOT been deemed safe just because they say so.

    Like someone else said here, this is “security theater” – and as “entertaining” as the show playing at our southern border. Israel is PROFILING very successfully. Of course, that is WHAT YOU DO. I’m sure the world is laughing at the sad comedy unfolding in this country. “Look what Obama is making them do now, stupid fools!” We could bring this insanity to a halt during Thanksgiving travel if we had the will to do it. If you think it’s an inconvenience to act NOW, imagine one day very soon when we’re forced to do it right at the White House doors. We’re already on the freaking Capitol lawn every other day, wake up America!!!

  • dudette

    in the senate got bribed by the scanner company for choosing this machine for the TSA.

    • checkinout6000

      Soros has 11,300 shares in the company that provides these. This directive came from Oblaba. There’s not even any subterfuge in this. It’s just blatant. Will Couric report on it? Do I need to answer that?

  • michigan

    In the State of Michigan, the police used to set up sobriety check lanes and randomly pull cars over to the

  • petezarria

    Muslim men and women will be exempt. At least one religion, that provides all the killers and bombers, will be exempt. I sense a coming religious awakening and mass conversion to Islam, at least in airport security checks.

    Now we all have to pack the Quoran in the carry on.

    • ihateliberals

      to rent Muslim uniforms to get people through security checks. They could rent at one airport and return them at another. Then what would TSA do?

  • http://www.nonstopca.blogspot.com nonstopca

    Imagine what would happen if four or five of our founding fathers, (any of them that signed the constitution) were in line just in front of you, at a airport security check, what do you think would happen, when a TSA agent grabbed their family jewels….

  • jimmydxyz

    What a great place for queers to work, groping travelers crotches. My God, how far we have come!

  • ihateliberals

    to rent Muslim uniforms to get people through security checks. They could rent at one airport and return them at another. Then what would TSA do?

  • miroco

    She would like it better if she could be groped by an Illegal. Have you looked at—sometimes I even disgust myself but there is truth in humor, even when it isn’t particularly funny.

  • johnmanjaybee

    Not only can the government fine you for opting out of buying health insurance, now they can fine you for opting not to fly on a jet airliner.

  • capeconservative

    I can’t help but wonder what the individual airlines think of all this. They have to know they will be losing customers each and every day that passes with this on the front burner.

    Every time we have gone through the airport security check, all I can envision are muslims all over the world laughing their fool heads off as EVERY grandmother/grandfather and young families trying to herd their little ones and carry babies, all while trying to remove their shoes BECAUSE ONE IDIOT (who just happened to be a muslim) TRIED TO SET HIS SHOES ON FIRE!!!!! SO MILLIONS OF INNOCENT airline customers have to be inconvenienced because of one STUPID IDIOT!!!

    BIG GOVERNMENT has got to go!!!! Time to throw every darn machine out of every darn airport and stop the funding of the TSA!

    What has happened to COMMON SENSE??????????????????????

    • http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/lgartin wdgf

      …So they could offload the cost of doing security onto the taxpayers?

      I could be remembering it wrong, but that’s the way I recall it.

      If they won’t stand up for their customers, they can all go bankrupt, as far as I’m concerned. I’ll drive… I’d rather see the countryside anyway.

  • aesthete

    Another in a long line of examples of TSA incompetence and violation of our civil liberties. Truly, an idea this awful and perverse could only have been thought up in a dimly-lit Washington office (well, that or a dimly-lit room of another sort altogether). It’ll be perfectly charming to see bag fees increase to pay for this and other nonsense.

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    Let me see if I

  • chbroussard

    Ben, who said “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety.”

    There was no doubt in my mind that things would go downhill the day that Barack Obama was elected, but never did it cross my mind that we would reach the bottom of the hill in less than two short years.

    Ron Paul has introduced a bill to stop this madness. Let’s see how that plays out. But until then, stop flying if possible. Instead of flying to a meeting, have a videoconference. Instead of flying to see relatives, drive. If it’s too far, meet them half way. If you’re flying overseas for vacation, stay here. See America first, and do it by car.

    Just when I thought there couldn’t be any bigger invasion into the liberties of law-abiding Americans than Obamacare, here comes Barack and Janet’s TSA.

    Heaven help us.

  • ajshea

    Here’s an interesting article discussing how the layers of Israeli security works to keep Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion airport secure, while keeping the wait from curb to gate to less than 25 minutes!

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199—israelification-high-security-little-bother

    The money quote:
    “Even today with the heightened security in North America, they will check your items to death. But they will never look at you, at how you behave. They will never look into your eyes … and that’s how you figure out the bad guys from the good guys.”

    And why can’t we do it here? Because no bureaucrat is willing to risk their job to say, this is how it should be done and I don’t care what it costs me because its the right way to do it. You can see how people in Israel would be willing to do that, because they realize that the state is at risk otherwise.

    Strange isn’t it that doing less would be more risky than implementing policies that are so intrusive.