Given that just a few short years ago (pre-market meltdown) Ohio’s taxpayers were on the hook for $46.5 billion due to its underfunded retirement system, one would think that November 8th’s decision to Vote YES on Issue 2 would be a no brainer.
After all, if you’ve got a system where union bosses have been able to put every single Ohio citizen (now) $6150 in debt, why would you want to keep it?
Moreover, if you’ve successfully ridden yourself of the system, why would you want to return to it?
Yet, that’s the issue that Ohioans have to decide when they go to the polls on November 8th to vote on Issue 2: Do Ohio’s taxpayers really want to dive back into the soup bowl only to serve themselves up to union bosses (again)?
Issue 2 on Ohio’s November 8 ballot poses a simple question to voters: Should SB5, Ohio’s government reform effort to get control back from union bosses, be allowed to go into effect?
As fellow RedState contributor Kevin Holtsberry explains:
Issue 2 is a result of a union led attempt to repeal Senate Bill 5 – legislation which brought much needed reform to Ohio’s collective bargaining laws. A yes vote allows these important reforms to go into effect which will give much needed flexibility to government at all levels and will remove barriers to merit based management.
A YES vote on Issue 2 gives Ohio’s taxpayers the ability to see SB 5 go into effect. And, in the words of Building a Better Ohio:
- It allows an employee’s job performance to be considered when determining compensation, rather than just awarding automatic pay increases based only on an employee’s length of service.
- It asks that government employees pay at least 15 percent of the cost of their health insurance premium. That’s less than half of what private sector workers are currently paying.
- It requires that government health care benefits apply equally to all government employees, whether they work in management or non-management positions. No special favors.
- It asks our government employees to pay their own share of a generous pension contribution, rather than forcing taxpayers to pay both the employee and employer shares.
- It keeps union bosses from protecting bad teachers and stops the outdated practice of laying off good teachers first just because they haven’t served long enough.
- Finally, it preserves collective bargaining for government employees, but it also returns some basic control of our schools and services to the taxpayers who fund them, not the union bosses who thrive on their mismanagement.
While voting YES on Issue 2 should be a fairly simple decision, unions and their allies are spending millions to fear monger and deceive Ohio’s taxpayers into believing that it’s in their best interests to return power to union bosses.
However, as the Cleveland Plain Dealer’s Kevin O’Brian notes:
Senate Bill 5, now on the ballot as Issue 2, gives Ohio taxpayers the opportunity to re-establish control over local government spending. It sets right the relationship between the people and their employees, after 28 years of unions having an unwarranted upper hand.
Ohioans, on November 8th, you can either VOTE YES on Issue 2, or you can succumb to union fear mongering and serve yourselves (and your state) up on union bosses’ platters.
Related:
- OEA Employee: “OEA’s attitude is about power”
- Union Bosses Use Soldiers as Props
- Ohio Union Lies, Half-truths, and RACISM!
- Ohio Union Video: Class Warfare 101
- NEA Attacks Ohio Union Reform
- Union Bosses Don’t Answer to You
Note: If you’re not following Jason Hart‘s work (above) on Issue 2, you really need to.
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Cross-posted on LaborUnionReport.com

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We Shall See What We Shall See: Will Republicans Be Lucky Despite Their Incompetence?
Ausonius (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 8:09AM EDT (link)Other RedState members from Ohio (including yours truly) have written about this situation.
I hope the voters keep Issue Two: but given the nearly complete incompetence in handling the campaign by Ohio Republicans, and given the huge amount of money and legwork (door-to-door: my house has been visited 4 times by “No” minions, and not once by anybody from the “Yes” side) invested by unions and Dems, I am not optimistic.
Vote “NO!” signs have sprouted everywhere, along with bumper stickers, and my area would seem to be otherwise a Republican area. TV ads with sobbing teachers and grandmothers are evreywhere.
The “Yes” side has a hokey ad with the usual minor-key music and a scolding unseen woman warning us of doom if we do not vote Yes on Issue 2..
See my earlier diary – and yes, see Jason Hart’s writings! – on this issue, if you have not done so. What we have here is a regrettable example of how Republicans try to lose an election.
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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AND…Know Your Czars…Before They Hit BIG BRObama’s Unemployment Line in November: http://www.czarcards.us/
I'm curious, does anyone know the polling on this
throwback59 Monday, October 24th at 8:26AM EDT (link)measure?
The Polling Shows A Dem/Union Win
Ausonius (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 9:17AM EDT (link)56-36 as of just a few days ago.
See:
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2011/10/19/poll-sb-5-headed-for-big-defeat.html
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
AND…Know Your Czars…Before They Hit BIG BRObama’s Unemployment Line in November: http://www.czarcards.us/
The pension numbers you are using are very misleading
Death_of_the_Donkey (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 8:55AM EDT (link)In Ohio, almost all of the underfunding is on the teachers pension fund, the other government employees fund (OPERS) is extremely well funded. Also, in Ohio, healthcare paid by the pension programs is entirely optional and thus if/when they get into a pinch, they can eliminate that benefit (unlike most other states). Finally, while pension pickups for employees are an entirely bad idea, it is a very small percent of non-management workers in Ohio that get those, but a much higher percent of management (who of course were exempted under this bill).
DoD, They're not misleading at all (if you went to the link)...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 9:24AM EDT (link)The unfunded liabilities encompasses both pension retiree health care.
Pension Fund $128,559,433,000
Pension Liabilities $148,061,498,000
-$19,502,065,000
Health Care Fund $ $16,733,867,000
Health Care Liabilities $43,759,606,000
-$27,025,739,000
Total Unfunded Liabilities
-$46,527,804,000
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They are for a few reasons
Death_of_the_Donkey (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 9:47AM EDT (link)1) Like I said, in Ohio, the healthcare is optional, so technically those liabilities can go to zero if needed.
2) That combines several pension funds into one number, when in fact the OPERS fund is very well run and is nearly 100% funded.
3) A big part of the shortage is from the market downturn (these numbers are end of 09) and if we get more normal market returns much of these “problems” go away. And if we don’t get more normal market returns then all of the privatized social security systems would fail too (and the 401k system would come up vastly short as well).
4) Finally, remember that the average employee in Ohio pays in 10% of his/her salary into OPERS. This isn’t WI or NJ where they were paying little to nothing.
Hopefully folks will realize their tax $ are paying for the union campaign
carolina Monday, October 24th at 9:37AM EDT (link)Their tax $ are taken from the public employees as dues – and used to campaign for continued govt union control of state and local budgets. If the voters don’t ‘get it’, they are doomed to keep paying for it.
Good luck OH! This is an important vote for your future.
Really?
golfermike (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 6:11PM EDT (link)So, who exactly is going to tell them that. Frankly, there are a lot of people you can tell that too and they just won’t listen.
There are a lot of people in Ohio who at one point or another in their lives were union members. You see. they have been “down for the struggle” and “I know what it’s like”. In other words, they have been indoctrinated for life.
The ads for voting Yes are either invisible or lame. It seems conservatives have given up supporting or organizing support. Unfortunately, this may affect Issue 3 also as it will help turn out more liberals.
Conservatives have to learn to play to win. Winning a few minor battles here and there and losing the war sucks.
You are correct, Sir
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 6:24PM EDT (link)People don’t know how the dots get connected.
All unions are funded by the union workers dues.
Many democratic campaigns are funded by the unions.
All government is funded by the taxpayer.
Any questions?
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged