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Public-Sector Unions To Ohio Taxpayers: We Will Bury You

...Or, Unions Win, Right-to-Work States Win, You Lose

With less than two weeks before the November 8th elections and with the polls leaning toward repealing SB5, it appears that Ohioans are ready to vote to increase their taxes and unemployment. Ultimately, that is a choice Ohio taxpayers will be making and fiscal self-immolation is certainly within their rights and, frankly, there are states who would be all-too happy to see Ohio’s unions put the nail in the coffin there.

Curiously, though, after months of being pounded by a multi-million dollar union campaign of fear-mongering and deceptive propaganda, there seems to be very few Ohioans who know the true economic consequences of what happens when they repeal SB 5—and the unions, in their attack ads, certainly aren’t telling them either.

Even before John Kasich attempted to wrest control of Ohio’s budget from union bosses’ death grip, the state has had one foot in the dirt (so to speak). Thanks to Ohio being a forced union state and its years of union-cronyism (a state where non-union business owners are shot), the state’s private-sector has been shrinking while its public sector payroll has remained obese.

This public-sector bloat has led to liabilities that, with the repeal of SB 5, are only going to get worse. Below is a graph (view here) that shows the projections of Ohio’s school district deficits, using data from 2010.

The numbers above are not even accounting for Ohio’s State Teachers Retirement System’s most recent budget-busting numbers:

As preliminary data on the State Teachers Retirement System (STRS) for fiscal year 2011 is released, STRS is finally starting to see the light: Their pension system is failing. And its going to take more than just tinkering around the edges to fix it.

Despite earning its “strongest investment return in nearly three decades” in 2011, STRS’ pension fund still managed to sink to a 58.8 percent funding level, down from 59.1 percent a year earlier. The amortization window for its unfunded liabilities, unsurprisingly, remains at infinity, meaning STRS will never be able to pay off what it owes. A dying pension fund just put another foot in the grave.

To address just these deficits, without SB5 and the ability get control over the runaway costs, Ohio’s state and local governments will have to either lay off workers or increase taxes, or both. If taxes are to be increased, one way or another, it will come from Ohio’s residents and, very likely, through property tax hikes.

Unions fighting SB5, of course, have not addressed this in their campaign get voters to vote ‘no’ on Issue 2 (the ballot initiative to put SB5 into effect). Apparently, the unions are waiting until they are victorious in the SB 5 fight before Ohio’s taxpayers see the real economic costs.

We can, however, see some preliminary estimates for one Ohio County (with more to come):

Estimating population from Census figures, every resident of these Montgomery County school districts would have to pay much higher taxes in 2015 to cover the deficits projected by their own school district in 2010 – just how much? Take a look…

  • Huber Heights City School District: $1,273
  • Northmont City School District: $1,272
  • Valley View Local School District: $1,266
  • Oakwood City School District: $1,249
  • Northridge Local School District: $881
  • Vandalia-Butler City School District: $880
  • Mad River Local School District: $869
  • Kettering City School District: $862
  • Dayton City School District: $387
  • Trotwood-Madison City School District: $383
  • Centerville City School District: $311

There is a bright side to all of this, however: Just as one man’s trash is another man’s treasure, one state’s economic stupidity is another state’s gain.

The higher the taxes go in Ohio and the more the unions kill Ohio’s businesses, states like South Carolina, Texas, Arizona and other union-free states will be all too happy to receive those who wish to flee. [Obviously, the Right-to-Work states' only request is that you leave your unions in Ohio.]

Good luck on November 8th, Ohio.

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“I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes.” Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

Cross-posted on LaborUnionReport.com and RedState.com

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COMMENTS

  • http://www.jacksonlaws.com/ mcclelland

    Democracy

    • celador2

      Or the Ohio repeal vote will continue the trend started in Wisconsin to recall and recall and more recall in 2012 all who backed limiting collective bargaining in public sector. Voters often know why they vote, that fact is what hurts opponents.

      Reform through limiting public employee unions may be defeated in Ohio and the ripple effct will spread.
      Public unions are a para legal outfit that mandate to elected officials but in Ohio voters seem to like that. For now.

  • izoneguy

    for Texas – we have plenty of room.

    All you Ohio businessmen – come on down.
    The winters are mild and soon we will have
    a World Series Winner to boot!

    • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

      As a fellow Ohioan, this makes me sick to my stomach. That said, if Ohioans want more taxes, so be it. All we can do is try to educate the public on how unions are strangling our state finances. If they don’t listen, well, then there are repercussions to that as well.

      • izoneguy

        Rhode Island, Illinois, New York & California if they are not careful.

        The feds will not bail out these states. The citizens will see
        severe cutbacks as the business tax base flees.

        • horizonscanner

          Public Unions DO NOT EQUAL Private Unions.

          Public Unions RIG their contracts. Public Unions install CRONY POLITICIANS who are GRAFTED to the UNION BOSSES!

          It is a tragic fact and fate that the general citizenry is susceptible to propagandists that know how to stampede them into voting for their own slavery to a system of graft.

          Ayn Rand dramatized this criminal state of affairs, as did Orwell.

      • makesense7

        Strong unions are the backbone for fair wages for workers. When union are strong, America wins.

        • Doc Holliday

        • congressworksforus

          The average salary in our suburban district is $70k for a 9 month-a-year job…

          Please don’t come on here and try to lecture us on fair wages.

          As a result of cuts which will be needed when our levy fails, we lose over 70 teachers because of FILO hiring and firing.

          If we simply laid them off evenly across the board as far as tenure goes, that number drops to less than 50.

          Essentially, the current union-supported law will require us to lay off 25+ more teachers than we would need to had SB5 not been challenged.

          Please, Mr. “Unions are Great!” — tell me how that benefits our children?

          • lucasblack

            I don’t think it’s fair to talk about teaching like it’s a 9 month job and very few people go into that profession for the money. The problem I have is with unions and how it’s impossible to fire bad teachers, not with teachers themselves. Overall, I think the profession is underpaid. Bash unions, not teachers!

        • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

          Are the majority of Americans willingly subjecting themselves to exploitation? How stupid we must be!

          • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

            In 2010, according to the BLS

        • http://www.cis.ysu.edu/~kramer snowyowl

          Youngstown.

        • sbm1

          economic growth is what leads to higher wages for workers. It is simple economics….

          growth means greater demand for labor, greater demand means scarcity, scarcity means it becomes more valuable, ergo employers will have to pay a premium to get people to work for them.

          That is how wages work, anyone who thinks it is anything different is a moron!

        • sowa1

          If we have to pay 50% of our Health Ins., then the Teachers etc. can pay their share. Why should I pay your share plus mine?

        • cavvet

          You and your ilk are the distruction of the American economy. Your unions have priced themselves right out of work.

        • daniel22

          copy and paste from a Richard Trumka speech. Do not I repeat do not use your brain just follow what you are told to believe. Oh I forgot, that last part came from a bumper sticker. Now i know what you read in the unemployment line.

        • creinstein

          Back before access for all to lawyers, unemployment, FMLA protections and a host more Unions stood for the little guy.

          Now Unions make more than non-union counterparts. Worse they ask for benefits packages that beggar the mind when they see they cannot increase salaries because it would be too obvious.

          I have suffered from bad employers, more than you may ever know. But I have seen good employers suffer worse under bad unions.

          Unions need to lose collective bargaining if they wish to promote for the little man again.

    • banzaibob

      Business owners form California, Ohio and the rest of the blues states come on down we’ll be waitin’ for ya.

      Union goons need not apply.

  • earlgrey

    on entitlement reform?

    • http://www.laborunionreport.com LaborUnionReport

      about making their case before unions manipulate, distort, and lie.

      Until those that are advising people like Walker and Kasich teach their bosses about communications, the messaging game will continue to be won by unions and the Left.

      • carolina

        from the Walker reforms.
        Maybe the folks in OH need to see the positive results from the WI changes, so they better understand what is at stake.

        • sowa1

          Obama,Democrats, News Media, are all telling lies to the American People and until Ohio, Michigan and other States realize this, there is no hope for any of us.

      • carolina

        from the Walker reforms.
        Maybe the folks in OH need to see the positive results from the WI changes, so they better understand what is at stake.

      • Ausonius

        can be found in the diary “Ohio GOP Shows America How To Lose in 2012″ with the use of silence, offers of compromise, failure to counter Dem/union lies head on, using opponents’ statements out of context to seem duplicitous and ruin their case, etc.

        See:
        http://www.redstate.com/ausonius/2011/10/09/ohio-republicans-show-america-how-to-lose-in-2012/

        A commercial showing something simple e.g. Would you like to have 100 policemen at $60,000 each per year, or 150 policemen at a respectable $45,000 would have made the case.

        Ohioans have heard and seen – for all practical purposes – only a one-sided campaign of pro-union lies and distortions for over half a year. The polls might be right, and that it is too late to reverse the trend.

        Democracy bought and paid for with union dues and the money of crypto-socialist crony capitalists: may this not be the epitaph for America.

        • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

          (and same to LUR)

          Inability to articulate conservatism is a fatal flaw.

          • congressworksforus

            The money is not being spent on dueling commercials… it’s been spent on direct voter outreach which will result in more YES votes than any commercial will.

            Don’t panic just yet. Ohio voters have a history of doing the opposite of what the polling says when it comes to issue votes.

            Research what happened in 2005, the last time the left in Ohio tried something like this. Oh, and our “marriage amendment” in 2004 that was “evil” and “doomed to fail” passed by a WIDE margin.

            That’s not to say we will win of course. It’s politics, after all.

          • http://www.laborunionreport.com LaborUnionReport

            his townhall meetings through Youtube? You know, the ones that went viral?

            [You get my point.]

            Money helps, but there are ways to still get a message out with little or no money.

          • Martin Knight

            Somehow, the GOP fooled itself into thinking that the turn out machine would work just like it did in 2004 without any messaging or countering of Democrat attacks to convince voters to vote for them.

            So the day of the election comes, and GOP phone banks dutifully call up people, a huge number of whom march to the polls and pull the Democratic lever.

        • Martin Knight

          They do nothing and they get money for doing it!

          Who wouldn’t go for something like that?

          • Ausonius

            We see how well that worked in 2006 and 2008.

            LaborUnionReport: I agree that there are more ways to communicate the message, but it should not be an either-or situation. We need to attack the T.V. attacks on T.V. AND use FaceBook/YouTube etc.

            “Internet buzz,” I have discovered, usually depends on already having thousands of people ready to send out links to hundreds of other people. Otherwise a video will just sit there going nowhere.

  • runner12

    Do they want to end up like CA and become totally bankrupt? Kasich is the best thing that ever happened to that state and the majority of those in Ohio do not seem to realize it.

    It is sad to see this state just sign away their opportunity to get out from under the thumbs of the unions.

  • cwilson

    …or is it possible that people are lying to the pollsters? I mean, some random schmoe comes up to me, claims to be with ABC/Gallup/PollsterX and asks me if I’m in favor of SB5…I don’t know if he is actually who he claims he is, or if he is really the enforcer from Local 252.

    This IS the state where non-union business owners end up shot, after all.

    • congressworksforus

      The Dems tried this kind of thing in 2005. Four issues. All passing by wide margins in the run up to the election. Even the last “Dispatch” poll (main paper in the state capital) released right before the election had the issues passing.

      All four failed.

      Issue 2: 36.66 – 63.34
      Issue 3: 33.14 – 66.86
      Issue 4: 30.30 – 69.70
      Issue 5: 29.92 – 70.08

      By between 26% and 40%.

      Lesson? Ignore the polls…

  • texas214

    My guess is it would be a winner for the GOP, I bet it is 60-40 for RTW laws.

    This could be a sleeper issue in ’12.

    • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

      And nobody is talking about it. It hasn’t been in a single ad that I’ve heard of a single mailing I’ve seen. Seems like it would sway at least a few union members to at least consider that it might be in their best interest and sway A LOT of private sector voters who have misplaced sympathy for union members.

  • golfermike

    Kevin DeWine.

    Until the DeWine’s are removed from positions of power in the Ohio GOP, this level of ineptitude will continue. It’s all about giving the TeaParty it’s comeuppance.

    • avgjo

      Thanks.

    • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

      Instead of single-minded focus on this issue, they’re running around doing photo ops with Mitt and gathering endorsements for him just days before this critical referendum. They couldn’t even manage to brief him on the name of “Issue 2″ when he flipped back to supporting it (after he flipped against it yesterday). In his retraction today, he called it “What is it, Question 2?” Complete failure of Kevin DeWine to take advantage of the publicity generated by Mitt’s flub.

      Kasich has got to be steamed. Reportedly, he’d like DeWine replaced as head of the ORP but hasn’t managed to oust him.

      The unions are running wretched, deceitful ads. One radio spot has someone calling dispatchers during a break-in only to be told the nearest officer is 20 minutes away on another call due to cut-backs in safety forces. The terrified man is told to lock the door and hide.

      Of course, the fear-mongering works, as does all the propaganda saying those supporting the reforms don’t respect teachers and firefighters and want them to suffer. In debates, former Congressman Dennis Eckert is running around saying that we want to make them “Second class citizens.”

      I think that’s what offends me most. They make these public employees out to be a better class of people than those of us in the public sector. As if they deserve to be treated better than everyone else as if they are above reproach and their pay and benefits can never be touched. If that were the case, then there should be no limits to their pay or benefits. All public employees should be paid millions of dollars and be given free healthcare and unlimited pensions. While I appreciate teachers, firefighters, etc., they are not royalty and don’t deserve to be treated as such.

  • ctsonofliberty

    Here in the peoples republic of CT I witnessed the power of a mobilized union war machine in the 2010 election. As the rest of the country thankfully shifted back to red, here the union and marxist get out the vote machine worked very much against the people. I don’t doubt it can and may happen there in Ohio as well, but I do hope the people can finally break the control of the unions once and for all for their sake.

  • geoph

    I have every confidence in Gov. Kasich’s ability to do what is fiscally necessary while supporting the conservative agenda.
    Developing and passing this law was the proper move. Look no further than Walker in WI for that proof, but if you must look further – notice Minnesota and how their earlier Govt shutdown boosted the state, or look to Cali where Brown has just announced huge pension cuts for public workers.

    This is a problem plaguing Americans. If Ohioins decide they would like to continue to fund public union workers at the levels the union workers desire, so be it. This law was passed by the public as a whole. Since Ohio allows for this type of referendum, they are entitled to have it. Is it the same as recall elections in WI or State Supreme Court elections, or fleeing the State? Of course! But if a minority can change the will of the majority, it will be for a short time.

    Mr. Kasich is a budget master. He guided our National spending in the 90′s successfully. Now, if plan “A” is repealed, he will opt for plan “B” or “C” – it’s just a matter of whether he confines the pain to the unions who propagated this vote, or if he has “everyone pay their fair share” and hike taxes. I don’t believe he buys into that Leftist philosophy, and union workers will be laid-off so others union members can keep their standard of living. THAT really is a tight brotherhood!

    • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

      Let’s not beatify him just yet. Don’t forget he made a backroom deal with casino owners (in violation of the Ohio Constitution) to put VLT’s in casinos and give them a massive tax break.

      He’s done some good things for this state – great things, even. But he’s not above the law and like almost every politician on the face of the earth, you can trust him until he’s in a back room.

      • JSobieski

        That said, Kasich is among the best that we have. As a Congressman, he was probably the most effective fiscal conservative in the1990s.

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    are the direct result of the stupid changes to tax law that went into effect under Taft right? Schools in Ohio are primarily funded through property taxes and Taft eliminated the personal property tax in Ohio (replacing it with a commercial activities tax that went to the state instead) and then Kasich is ending the reimbursements to schools far sooner than was originally promised (to fix the state budget holes, ie nothing more than a tax shift). Even with SB 5 in effect, any school that has a decent industrial base (ie personal property revenues) is going to have to raise taxes.

  • johnt

    becoming indistinguishable from the original and with love and kisses from the Obama/Reid/Pelosi/media axis. Just what Commissar Reid was talking about recently. A natural fit to the other miseries being inflicted by these people. The arm of the party, preferred over the rest of the country and loyal only to it’s statist benefactors.

  • rick554

    Ask the people sitting on their front porch watching trucks carry away parts from the Twinsburg stamping plant . Or ask somone who remembers the “good old days” in Warren, Youngstown, Toledo Cleveland or Brookpark. These union thugs think they have this beat….I’m not so sure.

  • geoph

    If the game is checkers, we can’t play chess.

    I am a firm believer in “Trust, but verify.”

    As far as being a politician….
    We in MI have a non-career politician as Governor, and I’d swap Ohio Snyder for Kasich in a blink.
    Just because a system is corrupt doesn’t mean we don’t put our best people in position to affect change. Look no further than Boehner for proof of THAT mistake.

    • JSobieski

      In the primary, I was an anyone-but-Snyder guy. He has been a pleasant surprise.

      • kestrel

        Seriously asking.

        • JSobieski

          I expected a RINO