I know what level I am at thank you.

He called me ignorant, I responded.

I deal plenty with logic, facts and reason. Sorry you can’t see that.

PS, I’d like to take the time to thank you and Becker’s generation for getting us into the mess we’re in now. My generation’s future sure looks bright.

Looks like a big zero to me.

You’re embarrassing yourself, not that you’d notice of course. And as far as mentioning that you’re ignorant, I was too kind. Ignorance can be easily fixed by the desire to learn and the willingness to work. Your problem can’t be fixed.

You don’t know how to do basic research.

You don’t know the difference between facts, assumptions and feelings. Hint, they’re not the same and need to be identified when used.

You can’t assemble a cogent argument, neither logic nor reasoning are your friends.

You can’t write.

–Trump comes on with an “in your face” accusatory attitude with practically no proof about the birth certificate and he’s hailed as the new wonder boy and is now a serious presidential contender. Have these people even looked at his political executive record? or lack thereof? He’s leading in major polls. Why?

—Christie? great governor for a blue state. Whatever. He’s taken on teacher’s union like a champ. Sure, he actually has to. His state is in a very big hole. His support for gun control, amnesty, the ground zero mosque and a shady appointment of an Islamist to the supreme court are all pushed aside Why? because he talks tough in front of the camera? Walker has done more in his couple of months in office than Christie has done in his time serving. And before you call me “naive,” I know they’re in two very different states but I have yet to hear of the outstanding things coming out NJ, When Palin was governor, she took on corruption, unions and oil companies (who, in my opinion, make teacher’s unions look pretty wimpy). She served with nearly 90% approval ratings and significantly reduced spending in her state. I didn’t hear anything about her until she was tapped by McCain. There is an obvious double standard and you’re going to equate that the “race card.” Suit yourself.

—Newt has 50 ex. wives, has quit his job and has collaborated with Pelosi in the past but he’s still being respected in Republican circles and is considered as a serious Republican presidential nominee. I haven’t head the term “quitter” applied to him even once. We should all know why Palin resigned, she explained it thousands of time. It was completely legitimate. I am glad she did. Who else would have worked as hard to uncover Obama’s radical agenda? or worked as tirelessly to endorse conservatives in the GOP candidates in primaries and general elections? or been a mega force behind the conservative movement?

Which GOP boy can you think of that has done what she has in the past two years? yet all the establishment and snobby conservative pundits do is hit her over the head every chance they get.

Hence why I will never register to the Republican party. Actually both parties are dirt. In fact, I will gladly vote for a conservative democrat (none at this time) than a McCain/Brown type Republican in a nanosecond.

You are right, I don’t speak for anyone but myself. I certainly don’t speak for Diogenes nor to I go on record for him (mafia joke). I have never had an issue with Finrod, he seems a good guy, but I would need to read the context of this particular claim to comment on it.

I do admit that libertarians go off half cocked sometimes, looking for a fight. I am sure I have done this myself at times, but there was never personal animosity. Sometimes people just want to spar over little things. I don’t claim one side is alone in this, but its not like there are libertarian mods here, and that is fine, we chose to come here.

I know I will try to see our similarities more and overlook the little key words that send to set us to fighting. Like I said before, I really think our similarities are vast and our differences small. It is just that people seem to magnify differences, sometimes just to fill the space

I don’t want this place to become a love fest, a good argument can be fun, but both sides are wrong when they make the other feel unwanted. And both sides are wrong when we make the other into something he is not. I think respect is the key, and I will try to walk the talk.

I bring up the War on Drugs as an example because it’s the perfect example of an issue that makes SoCons look like colossal flaming hypocrites. It’s a prime example of 1) a completely ineffective government program that keeps getting more and more funding from both parties because they want to look good by kicking a convenient boogeyman (drugs are bad, m’kay), 2) being the source of the most widespread intrusion into the personal space of Americans in the form of no-knock raids in the country’s history, 3) a blatant violation of the Constitution (10th Amendment, enumerated powers of Congress) which makes every Republican who supports it look like a bloody idiot because it negates everything else we say about how the Left ignores and twists the Constitution for their own whims, because here’s an issue where we’re doing THE EXACT SAME THING.

Also, I posted one (1) comment that brought up the War on Drugs yesterday. I didn’t feed the threadjack that followed, you posted more than I did in that. Physician, heal thyself.