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Can Congress Subpoena Judges?

I have to confess at the outset that I am at a loss to explain the hyperventilation in some quarters about Newt Gingrich’s remarks in Saturday night’s debate that he would subpoena federal judges to testify before Congress. I don’t really want to get sidetracked in a discussion of whether such a move would be a good idea, politically (it would almost certainly not, as evidenced by the fact that it is never done), my only beef is with the suggestion that it literally could not be done. In other words, to some extent this is probably the sort of discussion that only a soul-sucking lawyer fascinated by the question of how many angels could dance on the head of a pin could possibly enjoy and therefore I will stick most of it below the fold. I will say, however, that folks who have never actually practiced in front of a judge generally have no idea how bad things are in the judiciary these days – and while I think Newt’s plan is probably political suicide, I don’t think some outside-the-box thinking should be completely discarded where the judiciary is concerned, because it is clear that what has been done prior to this point is just not working.

The normally outstanding Andy McCarthy, with whom I am loathe to disagree, writes at NR that the very idea that Congress has the power to subpoena judges is preposterous:

For now, though, I just want to address a bad part that is getting most of the attention — as Kate’spost from yesterday indicates. That’s the business about issuing congressional subpoenas to federal judges to coerce them into explaining themselves before lawmakers. As many commentators have suggested, this proposal would violate separation-of-powers principles. The judiciary is a peer of the political branches. It would be no more appropriate for Congress to subpoena a federal judge (or that judge’s clerks) about the reasoning of one of the judge’s rulings than it would be for Congress to subpoena the president (or his top advisors) about a controversial decision that was within the president’s constitutional authority, or for a judge or the Justice Department to issue a subpoena to a member of Congress (or the lawmaker’s staff) to question that member about the deliberations over some legislative act that arguably went beyond Congress’s enumerated powers.

With all due respect (and I mean that literally and not in the sarcastic way the phrase is usually used), this is an ipse dixitof astounding proportions. There is no authority or reasoning offered anywhere in here other than the fact that it would offend Andy McCarthy’s sensibilities about how the balance of power should operate. McCarthy is entitled to his opinion, but it seems disingenuous to suggest that this is already a settled question in the American politic. It is not.

Allow me to counter, in fact, with what seems to me to be a plausible reading of both the Constitution and actual settled precedent. Per Article 3, section 1 of the Constitution, every inferior Court in the United States (i.e., every court except the Supreme Court) exists at the whim of Congress. People like to pretend that it’s a point of some controversy as to whether Congress would have the authority to shut down the 9th Circuit if it so desired. I guess it might be a point of political controversy but in terms of Congress’s power, literally no inferior court in the country could exist. According to Article 3, Congress has the plenary authority to cause every Federal court in the country with the exception of the Supreme Court to cease to exist. Further, as declared in Article 3, with the exception of a narrow class of cases, Federal courts would have no jurisdiction to hear most cases absent express authorization from Congress. Which is why I would probably agree with McCarthy that subpoenaing members of the Supreme Court would probably be out of bounds, just like it would be out of bounds for Congress to subpoena the President. But just as Congress can subpoena all manner of Executive Branch underlings for a good raking over the coals, I think it clearly presents a different question when it comes to subpoenaing judges of inferior courts.

This is why Congress has hearings on the 9th Circuit and on the judiciary’s jurisdiction to hear cases involving detainees from time to time – they are not idle posturing or threats to the balance of power, they are fulfilling Congress’s express Constitutional authority to regulate the judiciary. If Congress were somehow stripped of this authority, that would be a true threat to the Constitutional principle of separation of powers.

As Gingrich explained earlier this year at the Palmetto Forum (and I daresay that Newt is showing a better understanding of the implications of Congressional power contained within Article 3 than most if not all his detractors):

Which brings us to Congress’ subpoena power in the first place. That’s not anywhere explicitly in the text of the constitution but there are court decisions affirming the reality that they are properly within Congress’ inherent power, as long as they are part of an investigation that serves a “valid legislative purpose.” As we have seen above, there are loads of valid legislative purposes when it comes to regulating the judiciary – at the very least every judge not currently sitting on the Supreme Court. Just as 2 + 2 inexorably equals 4, I think the above principles indicate that Congress can issue subpoenas to judges sitting on inferior courts.

Now, there are some problems with Newt’s proposal. The first and most glaring problem is that Newt is running for President, not Congress. The President cannot subpoena anyone to testify in front of Congress. Congress has to subpoena people to testify in front of Congress. Second, in the event that a judge defied a Congressional subpoena, who would enforce it? The judicial branch is generally loathe to enforce Congressional subpoenas against executive branch officials – you can guess how they would treat subpoenas issued to judges. The final one that McCarthy hits on in his piece – it seems rather pointless to subpoena judges to explain what they generally have almost always already explained at great length in their opinions - i.e., why they reached the decision they did. The key, here, though, is almost always. Many times, especially at the trial level (where, in my opinion, the greatest reform is needed) the rulings can be cursory, vague and confusing. Additionally, many of the things the judiciary does which Congress might want to ask about (assignment of cases, composition of appellate panels, etc.) would not be explained in writing anywhere. Which is to say that it would beunusual but not unheard of for Congress to have a legitimate reason to question a judge on a decision for a reason that was not related simply to a public raking over the coals.

Of course, raking judges publicly over the coals is really and truly the point of this entire proposal, as I am sure we all really know. Would it be a good idea for Congress to engage in this spectacle with sitting members of the Federal judiciary? Probably not. The judiciary has done a masterful job over the years of convincing the public that they are a robed priesthood whose rites must be clothed in secrecy in order for them to have effect. Even at the state level, when judges are elected, they seldom receive any meaningful scrutiny.

The dirty truth, which many lawyers are loathe to admit in public (for reasons that should be obvious) is that while there are many quality judges out there who take their job seriously, there are far too many who abuse their membership in what is effectively the world’s most protective and belligerent union. Too many judges – especially at the trial level, where well over 95% of everything they ever do is never reviewed by anyone – are lazy, autocratic, and incompetent. They do not read briefs that are presented to them, they do little if any of their own research (and what little is done is most certainly done by clerks), and they willfully flaunt both the law and rules of procedure, secure in the knowledge that a) you will almost certainly not appeal them and b) even if they are overturned on appeal, it is absolutely no skin off their life-tenured back.

I remember several months ago I was having an email discussion with a non-lawyer about the Arizona immigration law which is currently in front of SCOTUS. This person asked about the law, “May I ask if this law will prevent the experience I had of sitting in a [county] traffic court room, watching illegal after illegal admit to being illegal in front of the judge, but just receive a traffic fine and walk out free as can be?” My answer was, “In theory, yes. However, there is no law that has ever been invented that will prevent a judge (especially a general sessions judge) from doing whatever the heck he wants.” I defy anyone to spend some time Googling “Manuel Real” and tell me that either a) I was wrong or b) we don’t have a problem in this country that might at least be aided to some degree by the occasional public rhetorical flaying of a sitting judge.

Of course, the first person to attempt to address the problem in that manner will probably pay for it with their political life, which will only perpetuate the vicious cycle wherein the public never sees behind the curtain and the problem continues to get worse and worse. But if Newt wants to be the guy to make this particular assault on Cemetery Ridge, I am at a total loss for why conservatives would want to stop him.

 

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  • conservativecurmudgeon

    I can add not detract a thing.

    Except..

    Wasn’t Gerald Ford “hauled up” to the House to testify about any quid-pro-quot involved in his pardon of Nixon?

    • williamjameson

      congress as can bureaucrats and congressmen (charlie Rangel) so its conceivable that judges could assuming a bipartisan panel agrees. Maybe if Cali judges stopped screwing with 1st amendment rights we’d see fewer complaints.

      Better to fire bad judges and appoint honest judges who review complaints with less or no ideology. We don’t need judges legislating from the bench.

    • jacobite

      So, no judge has ever been subpoened, I’ll assume that it’s true, but what does that mean? If we go back to the days when men walked the earth in the US, we will see that judges weren’t subpoened, but they were tarred-and-feathered. They were ridden out of town on a rail. Their courts were abolished. The problem came about because that lying Frenchman (sorry, I repeat myself) Montesque(?) faked up a balance of power in the English government that never existed. But, hey, it made a cool theory, which is all that counts. English courts operated under the power of Parliament. You get a clue by noticing that our Constitution forbad ex-post-facto laws and bills of attainder. Wonder why? Because the English parliament could do both things. Any ruling of the highest court in England could be overturned by the House of Lords. Prohibiting that that didn’t make it into our Constitution, although Justice Marshall took it upon himself to pencil it in later. Forget the agitprop from the Federalist Papers and check out the Anti-Federalist Papers. Those really wise Founders took one look at the proposed Constitution and predicted Earl Warren 200 years in advance.

      • conservativecurmudgeon

        I yield…

    • grruff

      According to wikipedia, “The Constitution provides that judges “shall hold their Offices during good Behavior” (unless appointed during a Senate recess). The term “good behavior” is interpreted to mean that judges may serve for the remainder of their lives, although they may resign or retire voluntarily. A judge may also be removed by impeachment and conviction by congressional vote (hence the term good behavior); this has occurred fourteen times. Three other judges, Mark W. Delahay,[2] George W. English,[3] and Samuel B. Kent[4] chose to resign rather than go through the impeachment process.”

      So who does the impeaching if not congress? And if congress can impeach, why can’t they subpoena? I think the media is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Newt has proposed nothing revolutionary.

      Furthermore, I think that the states and/or their citizens, who created the federal government in the first place (including the supreme court) should be able to subpoena and impeach them all – including the president!

      There is an amendment procedure for changing the constitution. Neither congress nor the prez nor the courts should be able to ignore or reinterpret our guiding document on a whim.

      • Common_Cents

        There is nearly zero intellectual honesty left, even on our own side.

        It’s getting pretty sad.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …as a non-attorney.

    A few months ago, functioning pro-se, I was in a conference with a judge and an opposing attorney; the latter individual admitted a “fact” that was contradictory to what another attorney subsequently asserted.

    So, I listed this judge as an individual who was on a subpoena-list. When I tried to serve him, he said, “You don’t want to do this.” So I didn’t.

    But the “other side” didn’t know that, so they admitted the “fact” [presumably not wishing to be countered by this judge] and the need to have subpoenaed the judge was thereby obviated.

    *

    I researched this issue and, indeed, was told it was unprecedented…despite the fact that this “fact” emerged in an environment that had not been witnessed by anyone else.

    *

    Here is how I would obviate this issue, inasmuch as [as is famously noted] the SCOTUS doesn’t have the backing of an enforcement-army.

    The Constitutional Amendment that would remove lifelong appointments would thereby INVITE judges/justices to WISH to appear.

    They could be provided ample warning regarding the cases that would be discussed, but recognizing that they would be constrained [by tradition] from commenting on present/future cases.

    Thus, there would be no need to enforce a voluntary subpoena of this type and, as a result, the atmospheric I encountered would be punctured.

    Judges are people and are asked to testify before governmental panels privately; thus, there is precedent [whether or not the target is corruption] for their input to be integrated into the fabric of truth-acquisition…to achieve truth-telling.

    *

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      …is the conflict between the legislature and the judiciary regarding rule-making.

      Generally, the latter gains this empowerment by default, although there have been times when presumed encroachment of the former has been abruptly nixed by the latter [without any meaningful response thereafter].

      FYI.

    • horizon3

      There is no such thing as a “lifetime appointment” not even for SCOTUS justices. The US Constitution simply states that judges may remain seated as long as they behave well.

      Article III

      Section 1

      The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may, from time to time, ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services a compensation,
      which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.

      As a side note the word lifetime is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

      Lifetime appointment is a progressive introduced myth, it simply does not exist in out law.

      • theone3434

        is usually interpreted as without corruption. To imply (if you are) that a judge can be removed because of a decision that the majority does not agree with, is nonsense…and unprecedented. Although it isn’t explicitly written, a SC judge has a lifetime appointment if they don’t partake in corrupt practices.

        • arthurmanger17

          I guess that means the writers of the constitution did not have a good grasp of the English language. I mistakenly thought they did.

          • edintexas

            So you believe “good behaviour” is self explanatory and clearly defined without any additional discussion. Perhaps theone3434 should have used “defined”, rather than interpreted. But there has to be some determination of what was intended by “good behaviour”. Having been overheard using a profanity might have excluded someone from application of the term, but I don’t think even the Founders would have thought that sufficient to remove a Judge from the Federal Bench. Nor do I think making a decision with which the politicians disagreed would have been considered to have terminated “good behaviour” (for there surely were such throughout our history).

          • jakeofalltrades

            It has no bearing on grounds for impeachment. A judge can be impeached for no reason at all – it is a simple up-or-down vote in Congress (with a supermajority requirement). If the founders wanted impeachment to be based on a standard, they would have given the power of impeachment to the courts.

          • theBlur

            “If, then, the courts of justice are to be considered as the bulwarks of a limited Constitution against legislative encroachments, this consideration will afford a strong argument for the permanent tenure of judicial offices, since nothing will contribute so much as this to that independent spirit in the judges which must be essential to the faithful performance of so arduous a duty.”

            So the founders did indeed believe that “good behavior” was intended to be a “permanent tenure.”

          • horizon3

            Are NOT Law, they are written by men, oft times many years after the Convention, many of which were advanced in years at their writing.

            I don’t know about most folks thoughts on the matter, but a judicial decision that flies in face of the Constitution, would most certainly be considered Bad Behavior.

            As to Hamilton: If they had meant “permanent tenure” don’t you thing they would have written that phrase, exactly? They did not, so it does not. Implications and the corruption of precedence is part of what has gotten us into this mess!

            Precedence was unheard of in our courts before around 1903, The judiciary was meant to try each case based solely on its merits, Not the results of a previous case.
            The concept of precedence in our court system was introduced by a bunch of progressive law professors at Harvard and a few other liberal institutions. Since then lawyers (future judges) have used it as a lazy way out of presenting and / or adjudicating a case and balling up our court system, which by the way is one of the progressive/communist goals to bring down the country.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            they serve as the best idea we have as to the original intent of the founders.

            However, any way you look at it, Congress has power over the courts, If the members of congress do not choose to use that authority then we need to elect other congressmen.

          • retire05

            by men? And who wrote the Constitution? Martians?

            Most of them were written before radification of the U.S. Constitution and have been, by Constitutional scholars more studied than you, determined that they best represent the intention of the authors of the Constitution, and its meaning.

            The term you are looking for is “stare decisis.” But stare decisis is simply the practice of following in a previous courts decisions on Constitutional matters. It doesn’t mean that the court has to follow it. And yes, there is often a reason to follow stare decisis.

            I remember clearly when John Roberts were going through his confirmation hearing. The Democrats were very firm on letting him know that they expected him to follow stare decisis when it came to abortion. Yet, Roe v. Wade was not decided on the Constitution, but a “punumbra” found by Ginsburg.

            Good behavior, as understood in the 18th century, was being of high moral character, not how the judge ruled on the bench.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    It is for impeaching a judge for ideological reasons.

    Not for corruption, not for insanity or misbehavior but because you do not agree with the rulings from that judge

    It is a scary path we don’t need to go down, or a precedent to hand to the left.

    Don’t like activist judges? Don’t allow them into the system or into higher parts of the judiciary via Congressional approval.

    • theone3434

      You hit the nail on the head. To set a precedence, such as Newt is proposing, that we (Congress) can simply remove a court because we do not agree with their rulings, is preposterous at best and corrupt at worst. Again, I assume that at some point in our future there will be another Democratic controlled Congress, if the GOP proceeds to take out the 9th circuit, what would stop them (Dems) from doing the same to conservative courts when they gain power.

      Be VERY, VERY careful what you wish for. Newt is playing an extremely dangerous game and should be called out for it.

      • jakeofalltrades

        is – or at least used to be – near 98%. They’re useless and should be eliminated, though impeachment is probably the right idea. Easier than eliminating a circuit.

        • westcoastpatriette

          that should be enough to get them all fired. Except those who consistently dissent against the faulty rulings.

          • jakeofalltrades

            Anyone disagreeing with SCOTUS that much probably should not have passed their bar examination…

  • http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer

    Massachusetts and California have both voted against same sex marriage and both votes were overturned by activist judges.

    You’re correct in saying that the judiciary has seized more power than is constitutionally mandated. We need to do something about it. It’s going to take somebody with a spine. I think that person is Rick Perry.

    Perry/Rubio 2012 because the pre-game show is over, the clowns have entertained us and now it’s time for the main event.

  • horizon3

    Yes, Congress can subpoena justices, there is no law in the Constitution to prevent it. Judges by default are citizens of the US, they therefore are subject to congressional subpoena.
    Just as there is no law to prevent congress from firing them for unconstitutional behavior. If you notice in the Constitution there are no rules for impeaching judges. Hence they may be summarily discharged at the discretion of Congress, although impeachment proceedings are more fair, as it gives the subject a public hearing before being dismissed.

  • http://www.ajharaldson.com lakeworthcane

    ” . . . Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .”

    Forgetting, for a minute, that most laws banning murder and theft, in all their contemporarily creative forms, are based on the 10 Commandments (certainly not on the Origin of the Species) . . .

    Congress has never made a law respecting the establishment of a religion; it has never come close.

    But the Supreme Court has, in effect, made federal and state law prohibiting the free exercise thereof in public schools that local tax payers fund.

    Who do we see about that?

    If Congess never passed a law respecting the establishment of a religion, then why was the Supreme Court even considering the issue? Why didn’t the US Congress step in? (“Wait a minute. What the heck to do you judges think you’re doing?”)

    If the people in a state’s school district want to have religious education, and they open it up to all religions, and the people pay for their school district out of their own pockets (in the form of taxes), who the hell is the Supreme Court to tell them what classes they can teach in their schools?

    This case is an example–and just one–of a genuine travesty of federal judicial authority and state’s rights. Speaking from a purely reasonable perspective, if a group of people are paying for their school district, they can have any kind of education classes they want, and the Supreme Court had better mind its own business if it doesn’t want the Congress to step in and remind it of its Constitutional limitations. (How ironic is that?)

    If the people in a state want to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, neither the federal circuit nor the Supreme Court have the authority to tell those people they can’t.

    When the federal courts overstep their authority–and they do–the Congress has a duty to step in. If the Congress shirks this duty, then the Congress, along with the courts, is outside the law of the land, ie the US Constitution.

    When Presidents select for Supreme Court seats activists who clearly intend to use the court to further their political platforms, the Congress has a duty to step in. If the Congress shirks this duty, then the Congress is outside the law of the land.

    (For just one example, Kagan should NOT be a Supreme Court judge. Not only is she professionally unqualified; her character–her demonstrated willingness to use the court for her own personal desires–also disqualifies her. Congress had a legal duty to disqualify Kagan and–buncha panies–didn’t perform it.)

    But she’s on the Supreme Court, and it’s doesn’t take a genius to imagine the mischief that she’ll wreak upon this country. She’s all about sticking bugs up people’s butts. That’s what she does, and that’s what she’ll do as a Supreme Court judge.

    So now we have a Supreme Court judge who lives to be a gadfly. Who do we see about that? What recourses do we have to deal with that?

    An aside: anybody who thinks the US Constitution is an “outdated” document that needs to be “reinterpreted” simply does not understand it. The document clearly delineates between states’ and federal authority, and the Supreme Court ignores that delineation all the time.

    If the people in California don’t want to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, they don’t have to; but they can’t force the people in Florida to follow.

    If the people in Nevada want to elect a nut job, that’s their business, but do the people in all the other states have to suffer for it?

    Who do we see about that? If not the US Congress, WHO?

    The US Constitution was designed to limit authority: to prevent small groups of over-zealous activists from controlling the entire country.

    The Congress has a duty to observe the US Constitution’s restraints: to protect the people and the sovereign states from small groups of activists who seek, uh, “supreme” authority over all.

    The US has no legal format for “supreme” authority over all, but now we have the Judiciary, of all branches, trying to exercise that kind of authority, and we have the Congress and the Executive sitting back and allowing it to happen: even participating.

    Radical times require radical action and, heck yeah, the Congress should be calling some federal judges on the carpet. For all of that, some states should be calling some of their state-level judges on the carpet, too. In four out of five cases (from what I’ve seen in courtrooms), the judges will be able to explain themselves. But about 20 percent of the time, the judges will not be able to explain themselves and should be subject to either some kind of formal reprimand or removed: “terminated with extreme prejudice.”

    • johnjohn23

      “Congress has never made a law respecting the establishment of a religion; it has never come close.”

      Establishment means not only saying “This country is Christian” it also means saying “This country will fund Christianity and not other religions”. When a law gives money to only one religion or makes laws for the purpose of benefitting one religion, the Establishment clause strikes it down.

      “If the people in a state?s school district want to have religious education, and they open it up to all religions, and the people pay for their school district out of their own pockets (in the form of taxes), who the hell is the Supreme Court to tell them what classes they can teach in their schools?”

      Because Christians shouldn’t be forced to fund Muslim schools and vice versa? Some of think it’s wrong to be funding another God, and Athiests probably view it as wrong to fund all Gods. Forcibly taking money to support a religion you don’t want to is what caused people to come to this country in the first place…

      “If the people in a state want to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, neither the federal circuit nor the Supreme Court have the authority to tell those people they can?t.”

      Freedom of Speech explicitly prohibits Oaths to any particular type of government (If they could tell you what to say, you wouldn’t have free speech, would you?). We are free to complain about anything in government we want. The only reason the pledge is allowed is because there is an opt-out clause, but you can’t require citizens to take an oath.

      • azrally

        Includes, reducing the footprint of the Justices.
        When Congress decided that the Federal government had the right to an individual tax, and later, the courts decided individual taxes were constitutional and later that money was “speech”, it allows your particular interpretation of the “Establishment clause”. Consider that at the time the Constitution was written, the Federal Government could not levy a tax against citizens, so the framers would not have foreseen “give(ing) money to only one religion” because the Federal Government was not empowered to collect money. (It was / is not empowered with any control over education either). “Lake” is correct when he outlines the premise that individual school districts have control. If one wanted to establish the “Big City Religious School”, and the people of Big City voted to fund it, the Federal government has no business telling them not to, the local community is exercising their freedom from Federal interference in religion. In fact many decades after the Constitution was written, many states had official churches, and church operated schools (Harvard, Yale anyone), they went away by state and local action, not by Federal constitutional challange. Now if another person is offended, or doesn’t wish to pay for Big City Religious School, they have the freedom to join with others of their opinion and start another school, or find enough votes in their district to defund the school. Through the voting process, individuals have their say as to how their taxes are spent. They may not always get their desires met if there are more people with an opposing view, but they get to participate. There will always be many who pay for government activities with their taxes that are not agreeable to them. The bottom line is “We the People” are in charge, not government.

    • http://www.ajharaldson.com lakeworthcane

      If a local school system in a state wants to provide religious education classes, the federal courts and the Supreme Court have no jurisdiction, and if they try to impose their jurisdiction anyway, Congress has a legal duty to step in because that’s illegal action by the federal public sector.

      If a federally-funded school, say, on a military base, wants to provide religious education, the federal courts and the Supreme Court have jurisdiction.

      The Establishment clause clearly says: “CONGRESS shall pass no law respecting the establishment of a religion.” CONGRESS has never passed a law respecting the establishment of a religion (although the entire federal US criminal code can probably be traced back to religion-based morality).

      The delineation is between STATE and FEDERAL law. The US Supreme Court cannot tell STATES what to do. If the people in a STATE do not like what the other people in that STATE are doing, they are free to vote with their feet, i.e. to move.

      That is the issue with the Health Care Reform bill. The federal public sector cannot legally force all US citizens to buy health insurance. The individual STATES already require people to buy auto insurance, but the federal public sector cannot do that. It is an issue that the individual STATES are to handle on their own, without federal public sector interference. If the citizens of the state of New York vote to require all New York residents to buy, as well as auto insurance, also health insurance, the federal courts have no jurisdiction, and if people in New York don’t like it, they can move to a state that doesn’t have that law.

      (For all of that, this was the big issue in the Civil War. The Confederate States of America didn’t want the US federal public sector imposing itself on them, so they formed a new, independent country: completely legal. The United States of America, under that dictatorial tyrant Abraham Lincoln, declared war on the CSA, attacked in, tore it apart, occupied it, and claimed it: completely illegal, gunboat diplomacy, imperialism, you name it. Gerrman generals in WWII studied US Civil War General Sherman’s tactics and copied them when declaring war on, tearing apart, occupying and claiming most of the countries in Europe. The Nazi “lightning war”– “blitzkrieg”–is based on General Sherman’s somewhat revolutionary (at that time) tactics: mobilize, attack, consume, destroy, occupy.)

      I’m not pro-slavery (hope my boss isn’t reading this), but I am pro-states’ rights.

      As for the Pledge of Allegiance: requiring US citizens to pledge allegiance to “one nation, under God” as a prerequisite for a job as a FEDERAL employee is a matter within the federal courts’ jurisdiction. If the job in question is in the private sector or in a STATE’S public sector, the federal courts have no jurisdiction, and if they try to hear the case anyway, Congress has a legal duty to step in.

      The US Constitution enforces states’ rights and minimizes federal authority. Any action taken by the federal public sector not respecting this is unconstitutional.

  • ihateliberals

    Newt is a Progressive and is no better than a Pelosi. he destroyed the contract with America back in 1994-95 and caused the lost of the House back to the Democrats. Why in Hades do we want this type of Progressive whack-o as President? I have never in my 60 years of politics seen a party do Hell bent on losing an election to the worst President in American History. There seems to be no attempt by the Republican Party to support a viable candidate.

    • arthurmanger17

      and stayed in their control until 2006. Are you sure you not a leftist? Your facts suggest you are.

      • arthurmanger17

        That’s house

    • goodolboy

      Newt is not a progressive in any manner, shape, or form. He is not a big government person. However, he is a big idea man. Much of what he says is for people to think about. What some think is something he wants the federal government to do is really something he wants to think about…not necessarily do. Much of what Newt says is in the form of “Here is an idea. What do you think of it?” and you go from there. Look at his record in Congress; his wrtitngs in detail; and his speeches in total, which are available on detail, and not listen or read snippets.

  • westcoastpatriette

    prohibiting Congress from subpoenaing judges other than SC justices, the exercise seems redundant for the reasons that Leon cites–the judges already have given their reasons for ruling the way they did in the final written judgment.

    I, too, have been surprised at the outrage some have expressed at Newt’s attempts to bring to light problems with the judicial branch and highlight provision in the Constitution to deal with it.

    I especially enjoyed watching Megan Kelly get her panties in a wad over the whole issue. Her outrage resembled a temper tantrum a six year old might throw when she didn’t get her way. And when discussing the issue, she tried to present it as a purely political move rather than recognizing that it would be Constitutionally based.

    It is high time we break the monopoly the courts seem to have with respect to giving the impression that they and they alone are the only ones graced with the wisdom to interpret the Constitution and that the rest of us rubes are too stupid to know what it says and means.

  • arthurmanger17

    The year is 1801 President Adams and the Federalist party which lost both houses in the election of 1800 had a plan. Jefferson who will not take office until March. The federalist still controlled the house and senate but not for long. So before the new President took office and the 7th Congress could meet, Adams and the 6th lame duck Congress got busy. It attempted to maintain control of the Judiciary by passing the Judiciary Act of 1801. The act increased the number of district courts doubled the number of circuit courts and increased the number of judges serving on those courts. The amount of new judges needed? Almost sixty. So Adams and the congress began the job of appointing a whole herd of new judges with the same political mind set.
    When Jefferson took office he put the brakes on all these appointments. When the new congress went into session they got busy and passed the Judiciary Act of 1802 which repealed the 1801 act to what it was with the Judiciary Act of 1789. Whew?.did you get all that? Wait they didn?t stop their, they lowered the amount of times the Supreme Court met a year from twice to once and then canceled that so that the next meeting of the court would not be until February of 1803. This gave Jefferson time; it would be months before the Supreme Court could rule on the constitutionality of his actions in the performance of his duties in the executive or on the act of 1802 passed by the legislature. This fight over the power of the courts goes beyond how the federal government will operate but how much power the federal government will have over the rest of the country. Also the ability of the people to determine the expanse of and the limits to their freedom expressed though the elected legislature. Here now is what is at stake in the words expressed at the time.
    “…the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch.” — Thomas Jefferson
    Monroe noted ?the party has retired into the judicary, in a strong body where it lives on the treasury, & therefore cannot be starved out. While in possession of that ground it can check the popular current which runs against them, & seize the favorable occasion to promote reaction.?
    The National Intelligencer, a Democrat/Republican publication, “Judges created for political purposes, and for the worst of purposes under a republican government, for the purpose of opposing the national will, from this day cease to exist.”

  • paco12348

    I’m only one of the people our government is “suppose” to represent.
    I’m only one of the the people having to live by the Constitutional laws the Judges are “suppose” to pass down.
    I’m only one of the people that would like for them to “know” and “follow” the Constitution instead of “making law” which creates havoc in America.
    I’m with Newt. Drag the Judges into Congress, find how their ruling follows the Constitution and if it doesn’t then impeach them.
    Oaths MUST start meaning something.

  • paco12348

    I’m only one of the people our government is “suppose” to represent.
    I’m only one of the the people having to live by the Constitutional laws the Judges are “suppose” to pass down.
    I’m only one of the people that would like for them to “know” and “follow” the Constitution instead of “making law” which creates havoc in America.
    I’m with Newt. Drag the Judges into Congress, find how their ruling follows the Constitution and if it doesn’t then impeach them.
    Oaths MUST start meaning something.

  • skorrent1

    Newt said it well. There can be no “balance of powers” if the Legislative and Executive branches refuse to use their Constitutional authority to oppose any Judicial action. It’s surprising that Congressman Ron Paul, who claims full knowledge of and fidelity to the Constitution, was strongest of the candidates in his assertion of Judicial independence from any “interference” by Congress. Maybe he needs a remedial course?

    Other anecdotes of judicial arrogance. I heard a defendent’s lawyer say, after his client had received a particular combination sentence of fine and jail: “But, Your Honor, the law says you can’t do that!” To which the judge responded: “Just watch me!” I quizzed a panel of sitting and would-be judges on how they would handle a case that was clearly not covered by any law. They nattered on about precedent and common law, but agreed that they would provide a ruling that was “most fair”. They were surprised when I compared their actions to a village headman. The idea that they should be constrained to ruling only on existing law never occurred to them.

  • blackhawk

    We need term limits and age limits for ALL Judges

  • Scope

    would have subpoened the lower court judges to appear before Congress when they ruled that the individual mandate was unconstitutional, when at least at one time, he supported the individual mandate, which forces all citizens to purchase a product, in this case health insurance. Newt still supports the position that every individual must in some way prove their ability to pay for their medical expenses, either through insurance, a bond, or government subsidies earmarked for their medical insurance costs. I’m not sure that a park bench number qualifies as a valid government address.

  • goodolboy

    How ol’ Newt as got all the members of the judicial crowd acting as if they are something special who no one can touch because they are lawyers and judges? How they think they MAKE law rather than INTERPRET law as evident by some of the examples above? See how ol’ Newt has got everybody discussing something many had never even thought about… such as Congress’s role with the judiciary and what Article III of the Constitution says? If he, as a candidate, can get this many people thinking think of what he could do as President. Wouldn’t that be terrible if the American people had to think and discuss things about the structure of the government rather than waking up every morning wondering “What is the government going to do to me today?”

  • johnjohn23

    First post! Long time reader, though :P Fair warning, I am a lawyer.

    I have to disagree with the OP the majority of the time. I can agree with him that the idea that the justice can NEVER be brought in is incorrect. When the judge commits an impeachable offense Congress can investigate it an they can investigate it through subpoena. For example, if the judge was bribed, the could give immunity and subpoena him and force him to talk.

    But what Newt and the OP suggest is that Congress can review decisions and seek to impeach judges whose opinions they disagree with. This they cannot do.

    First, an attempt to remove a judge that has not committed a crime is prevented by Article 3, because judges “shall hold their offices during good behavior” which has been determined to mean lifetime appointment unless an impeachable crime has been committed. Impeachment is defined in the Constitution as Treason, Bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors, in other words, at the very minimum an actual crime. They haven’t committed a crime, there is no impeachable offense, and thus there is no “valid legislative purpose”.

    Or, more succinctly: “Of course, raking judges publicly over the coals is really and truly the point of this entire proposal, as I am sure we all really know.” – Yes, everyone knows this, and that is not a valid legislative purpose. Your argument fails for this reason alone.

    Second, calling a judge before them for the purpose of having them defend their position steps on the toes of the appellate process that the Constitution gives to the Supreme Court. The OP is 100% correct in saying that Congress could totally abolish the lesser courts and could remove most avenues of review by either those courts or the Supreme Court. I would point out that this wouldn’t really solve Newt’s issue – it would just mean there would be no review of whatever last decision got him upset, and it wouldn’t prevent future issues from being litigated in state courts in a manner Newt wouldn’t like (and then reviewed by the Supreme Court unless jurisdiction is stripped there too). BUT, once Congress creates a court the role of reviewing the work of that court falls to the Supreme Court via the appellate process, and for Congress to essentially take it from them by holding it’s own review clearly violates a duty that the Constitution gives to another branch. The article is correct, Separation of Powers applies, it is not an opinion, you can see in the Constitution the words inferior court and “the supreme court shall have…appellate jurisdiction…in law…” You seem to misunderstand this – the reason SOP is violated is not because bringing in a lower judge infringes on the power of the lower judge, SOP is violated because bringing in a lower judge infringes on the power of the Supreme Court.

    What you and Newt suggest is directly opposite what the Constitution says, and it would make the lesser courts the employees of the Congress. Your idea that because Congress can make the courts it can micromanage them is similarly incorrect. Congress can raise and fund armies as well, but the Constitution gives to the President the control as to its inner workings. Congress can no more decide that they like one judge over another any more than they can decide to promote one soldier over another, those decisions simply aren’t before them. Congress can choose not to have a judicial circuit or an army, but if it makes them, it cannot micromanage them. Congress had a chance to vet the judge at the time he was nominated, it cannot complain later when he doesn’t do exactly as they hoped. They were given lifetime appointments specifically to vex what Newt is trying to do – force the court to submit to the will of the majority by public shaming, but the point of the courts is to be the bastion that protects the individual and the minority rights.

    Finally I just want to point out that you are mistaken about 95% of the work judges do not being reviewed by anyone. Review to the appellate court is a matter of right, which means if you are willing to pay to get into court (you have to pay to get into the trial court too, btw) they HAVE to pass on if the trial court was correct. Your statement is more accurate w.r.t the appellate courts, since the Supreme Court takes a low % of cases and other appellate courts cannot overrule them, merely disagree.

  • Menlo

    Can anyone picture any of the current Republican leadership even criticizing a judge other than to say he “respectfully disagrees” with an opinion?

    Maybe someone should ask Lamar Smith and Charles Grassley what they think. They are currently the leading Republicans of the judiciary committees.

  • travis690

    I’m referring to Obama in the title.

    Obama would have called Justices Alito and Scalia to testify after the Citizens United case put businesses and labor unions on the same playing field. Does anyone doubt what the outcome of THAT session would have been?

    Anyway, the entire idea of calling judges to testify about their decisions is both laughable and preposterous. I just want judges to actually read the laws they are trying to judge. And that starts with the Constitution. And if something is not specifically addressed in the Constitution, then carefully read Amendments 9 and 10 before rendering a decision.

    If these two steps would be followed, then most of the laws passed by Congress or written by alphabet-soup bureaucrats would be tossed out as unconstitutional. This alone would drastically limit federal powers. And one more thing: Understand that the word “regulate” (as used in the phrase, “to regulate commerce”) means “to allow for the regular flow of commerce.”

    • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

      ….and if Congress has enough time to supervise judges for their own decisions, then surely they have enough time to read the bills they pass to make sure that they pass constitutional muster, and make sure to pass budgets every two or three years, and maybe even enough time to go part-time, wouldn’t you say?