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It is a sad commentary on the state of our world that stories like this one (warning, .pdf) (via the Population Research Institute) barely shock us anymore. The gist of the story is as follows: a Massachusetts woman, identified in court pleadings only as Mary Moe, is pregnant with her third child. She aborted her first child. Sometime between this abortion and the birth of her second child, she suffered a “psychotic break” and was diagnosed with shizophrenia and bipolar mood disorder, for which she takes medication. Reading inbetween the lines, it is reasonable to assume that the woman’s first abortion may have been a contributing factor in her mental illness:

The GAL report and the record generally provide additional background. The defendant suffered a psychotic break when she was a college student. Thereafter, she believed people were staring at her and stating that she killed her baby. She becomes agitated and emotional when discussing the pregnancy that ended in an abortion.

Now that Moe is pregnant for the third time, her parents went to a probate judge in Massachusetts in an attempt to get a court to force her to have an abortion, apparently on the theory that the medications Moe takes for her mental illness would be harmful to Moe’s unborn child. Somewhat unsurprisingly, given this history, Moe went to great lengths in front of the judge to avoid having an abortion forced on her, claiming devout Catholicism (a contention that her parents dispute) and denying that she even was pregnant.

Somehow the judge, a Dukakis appointee, got the idea that the best thing for this poor woman would be to force her to have another abortion (because the first one clearly worked wonders for her mental health). This despite the fact that the guardian ad litem appointed by the judge had found that if Moe were not suffering from mental illness, she would not herself choose to have the abortion.  The judge astoundingly ordered that Moe’s parents should get her to the abortion clinic even if Moe had to be  “coaxed,   bribed, or even enticed … by ruse[.]” Additionally, even though no one (including Moe’s delightful parents) had asked for this remedy, the judge sua sponte ordered that once Moe’s parents had successfully conned her into the abortion clinic, Moe must be sterilized so she could never get pregnant again.

Thankfully, the probate judge was overruled on appeal, mainly for failing to make appropriate factual findings and failing to appropriately consider the recommendations of the guardian ad litem. Thus, in this one case, the appropriate result was reached, but reading the judge’s opinion, a different set of circumstances might very well have permitted “Mary Moe”‘s parents to force her to have an abortion against her will. This is the inevitable consequence of a society that has accepted the false premise that under certain circumstances, abortion is the only choice a sane person would make. Such a premise should be rejected by anyone who is truly “pro-choice,” but happily too many who claim to be “pro-choice” let the mask slip from time to time and show us all that when the chips are down, they really are pro-abortion, and nothing else.

COMMENTS

  • littlehouse18

    that the Third Reich was an anomaly. Now I realize how easy it is for it to arise anywhere.

    • jmadisonfan

      And I’m sad to say that I’m not surprised that this is real life vs. the plot of some crummy Lifetime Network movie.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      They were disasterously bad at PR. They needed to call it a great leap forward or a way to avoid young women being punished with a baby.

  • aesthete

    where a screaming crowd tarred and feathered the judge and left him on the Mass Supreme Court, as an example to the rest?

    I assume this is what transpired immediately after this decision was issued, given that we live in a country purportedly dedicated to protecting the fundamental rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness (all of which were grievously violated by this decision).

    • mikeymike143

      unfortunately this took place in massachusetts, so they will probably give him a medal.

      • redsox9687

        this isn’t exactly related to this article at all but it’s been bugging me, so hoping someone can explain it….. romney’s father was george romney who ran for president in 1968… one of the reasons romney gave last night for not being anti-immigrant was that “his father was born in mexico and his wife’s father was born in wales.” if his father was george romney and he claims his father was born in mexico, then how did his father run for president??????…. i thought the constitution says that to be president you have to be a naturally-born citizen which is why people like arnold can’t run….

        • redsox9687

          this isn’t exactly related to this article at all but it’s been bugging me, so hoping someone can explain it….. romney’s father was george romney who ran for president in 1968… one of the reasons romney gave last night for not being anti-immigrant was that “his father was born in mexico and his wife’s father was born in wales.” if his father was george romney and he claims his father was born in mexico, then how did his father run for president??????…. i thought the constitution says that to be president you have to be a naturally-born citizen which is why people like arnold can’t run….

        • dk1967

          George Romney’s parents were US citizens. Children born abroad of US citizens are given US citizenship.

          • MatthewB

            Mitt Romney was born in Michigan. That makes him a citizen regardless of his parents status.

          • drewlowell

            Won’t be changing any minds here, I’m sure, but when I stumble over threads like this I just want to make sure that this fact is on the record.

            Of the tens of millions of abortions that have taken place in this country since a woman’s legal right to choose was recognized in 1973…

            of the countless number of abortions that took place before this right was acknowledged …

            and of the uncountable numbers that will continue to take place even if this right is someday infringed in some states…

            not one of those procedures have ever been undergone by, performed by or defended by a “pro-abortion” person, because there is no such thing as a “pro-abortion” person.

          • Locked and Loaded

            the motives of Margaret Sanger and the Chinese government, or the unflinching general selfishness of some people.

            Pull your head out.

          • aesthete

            Read the farking article.

          • JSobieski

            so why don’t you go to Daily Kos and try to change some minds over there.

            Merely asserting things is not the same as proving anything.

            P.S. Slavery and murder still occur in the modern world and such crimes will continue to occur….but we still have laws outlawing such behavior.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Take your apologia for mass infanticide somewhere else. We don’t want any here.

            Blam.

          • rogershru2

            As mentioned above by L&L, Planned Parenthood disagrees. There is a reason that pro-abortionists get upset when fictional characters choose not to have an abortion, and are happy when “brave” young women choose the cowardly and selfish way of abortion. See Gloria Feldt former PP director here: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/article_76b9d72c-18d6-525f-b472-ef6a9792b4c0.html

            The money-making abortion industry disagrees. Abortion is lucrative. See Lineholders excellent series of articles on this industry here: http://www.redstate.com/lineholder/2012/01/17/abortion-onion-conclusion/

            China, Stalin, and Hitler disagree. They found it quite useful.

            Oh, and did you read the stinking (no offense Leon) article??!??!

          • ceili_dancer

            Certainly sounds like him circa 1994.

          • ceili_dancer

            Also 2002 during the gubernatorial debate.

          • BA Cyclone

            doesn’t make the rest of us out of touch. Quite the opposite.

            If you think killing children is an acceptable behavior, you are pro-abortion.

            Q.E.D.

          • BA Cyclone

            doesn’t make the rest of us out of touch. Quite the opposite.

            If you think killing children is an acceptable behavior, you are pro-abortion.

            Q.E.D.

          • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com;http://news.unifiedpatriots.com/ Beaglescout

            After all, if Madame X goes to an abortion factory in order to abort a child and then does in fact pay money to abort the child, with incidental dismembering and decapitation of a child resulting, then Madame X is defacto, obviously pro-abortion. She intended to get an abortion and did get an abortion, even paying money for the abortion. You can’t get any more “pro” than that.

            Not to mention the professionals who not only performed the abortion and dismembered her child, but also were paid for it. That’s pretty “pro” too.

        • streiff

          so how did that work of for you? Oh, you can’t reply? It must not have worked out well at all.

        • arthurjake

          His family never believed in a border between Mexico and the United States. Is that still something LDS believes or did that go the way of polygamy? If so does that bring Romney’s stance on immigration into question or can one assume he just does what he did as gov. in regards to abortion and give the shaft to his faith?

  • Raven

    In Texas, a pregnant teen’s family is trying to force her to get an abortion. She’s in court trying to make sure they don’t succeed.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/13/us/texas-pregnant-teen/index.html?hpt=us_c2

  • Next93

    I looked up Mary Moe on Google, and ran across this article. It appears to be the same case (and is still disgusting).

    I’m not a doctor, but I’d be a little surprised if she’s still pregnant, 20 years later.

    • streiff

      in the case. Mary Moe is a pseudonym, like Jane Doe

  • runner12

    So now the pro-choice crowd is forcing a mentally ill woman to have an abortion? Wait a minute, I thought this was all about a “woman’s right to choose.” Where is NOW? Surely they are protesting the violation of this woman’s rights! /sarc

    Those of us who are pro-life have been pointing out for years the Left could care less about women’s rights. It is all about being pro-abortion. Period.

  • madbag

    Doesn’t appear that the entire story has been provided in the article. One can only wonder what the rest of the story actually is. While, as presented, it appears the judge was pretty durn god-like in his ruling one might wonder what the status of the second pregnancy was. Full term birth with the child living with the mother completely under her care? Full term with child living with grandparents. Full term, living with grandparents but with special needs and a reasonable expectation that any additional children will also be special needs? Why is doesn’t the lady have her parents as her guardian? Is the ruling for abortion bad and the ruling for sterilization reasonable? Lots of questions I would like to know the answer to before I would totally condemn anyone in the process.

    • arthurjake

      Then it is within the right of the court to rule that she has no custody rights over the child after birth.

  • surfcitysocal

    Gee, and I thought a woman’s “choice” was sacred.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Full story is here.

    Thank God and everyone who fought this battle with Mary.

  • snowshooze

    Court ordered abortion.
    You know, in that warped line of thinking, a death penalty for the Mother would make more sense.
    That way, the larger issue is addressed, and no abortion is necessary.
    This is unbelievable.

  • veritaseequitas

    stripped of his/her robes and authority and prosecuted for trampling on the civil rights of this young woman, right? Yeah, sure, whatever.
    Ugly and evil…pro-abortion people are just downright ugly and evil. And nasty.

  • mikeymike143

    hopefully that idiot judge will face a recall election

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I remember being invited to a “scientific” lecture where I attended college. It was enlightening in a way that the lecturer in no way intended.

    He posited that there were too many people on Earth because of AGW, Peak Oil, lack of food, and every other boogeyman that the Baal Worshippers of the Grove have ever dreamed up.

    He then told us that human population would certainly adjust. He gave us two lists of ways that could happen. There was the “Bad” List. War, Famine, Plague, Gloabal Diaper-Rash, and several others. Then there was another list. The “Good” list. Contraception, Abortion, Sterilization, the nicities of life…

    He informed us that he was just the messenger and wasn’t into making value judgements, but only that we as a human race were going to have chose. One list or the other.

    We then got to write down our questions and submit them to a proctor who would hand pick which ones would be given to our lecturer. I offered up two.

    1) Given that you talk at Math, Physics, Chem and Bio Depts all over America, have you ever given thought to simply applying scientific know-how to the problems that in your opinion limit our ability to support our population?

    2) Assuming we chose something nice and reasonable like mass-abortion, how do you advise we finish the job if not enough ladies volunteer?

    Regretably, neither of my questions were selected.

  • mustango

    “[T]he medications Moe takes for her mental illness would be harmful to Moe?s unborn child” but an abortion WOULDN’T BE?!?!

    I like to think I’m good at understand how people think but this flat out stumps me.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Thank God reasonable heads prevailed in the appeal, and thank God for the guardian. I pray that Mary Moe and her children will receive the help they need.

  • Locked and Loaded

    you find that the issue of whether she is forced into an abortion is not certain.

    The order to abort is vacated, but remanded back for an evidentiary hearing and inquiry as to whether substituted judgment applies, meaning somebody else might still decide whether she is forced into an abortion.

    Am I reading this correctly?

  • aesthete

    for “unwanted children” to be terminated with extreme prejudice, rather than suffer the exigencies of a potentially less-than-ideal life.

    Funny how no one, in their overflow of sentiment for the good deed they’re doing the unwanted child by killing it, seems to care what the unborn child’s opinion of this dilemma is, or about waiting for him to mature before making this decision himself.

  • rogershru2

    That category includes maternal depression and “high risk” such as with Down’s syndrome. That is why they can claim elective abortion isn’t covered with a straight face.

  • desertphreak

    If the medication the mother is taking is reason enough for an abortion, then perhaps it is logical to assume the drugs are also bad for the mother and her life aborted as well.

  • aj_0000

    So she’s got that going for her.

  • snappy101

    How long did all of that court stuff, including appeal, take? You mean to say they got all of that done within the amount of time she would have had to meet for her to be eligible for an abortion? Do they fast track all murder cases?

  • duncer

    Appointing a political hack lawyer to a judges seat automatically endows them with god like wisdom that enables them to over rule doctors and scientists opinions though the only education they have is law school. oops, i forgot they can also decide the voters and legislatures were not capable of self government and need a black robed dictator.

  • http://twitter.com/michael_s_grant msgrant

    At the end of the day, when all reason has failed with such people, there will be a judgment – and there will be hell to pay.