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Santorum Sweeps

As of today, Rick Santorum officially has no more delegates than he had yesterday. That said, as CNN is just now this moment calling Colorado for Santorum in a stunning upset, his clean sweep of the states who voted/caucused today is a stunning rebuke to both Romney’s purported march through February and Newt Gingrich’s position as the favored not-Romney candidate.

Santorum’s performance was impressive in each state, vastly outperforming his position in the polls, which had him losing by 9 points in Colorado (he won by 5) and winning by only 9 in Minnesota (he won by 18). It is hard to tell who got clobbered worse – Romney, who fell all the way to third in Minnesota, or Gingrich, who finished well behind the flailing Romney in every state. Newt Gingrich didn’t even bother to give a speech tonight, which was probably a good idea if Romney’s shell-shocked and confused concession was any indication of what we could have expected. Although Santorum didn’t get any official delegates tonight, he certainly has bought himself one heck of a news cycle, and has in one day sucked the oxygen out of virtually every other campaign with the stunning results tonight.

For about the 9th or 10th time during this news cycle, the race has fundamentally changed its structure. For the first time I can recall, we are less than a month away from Super Tuesday and no one has any idea what is going to happen. Right now the question becomes whether Rick Santorum can get himself the money and organization to make this last beyond this week and into expensive contests in the larger states. One thing is for sure – this thing is a long way from over.

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  • WY_Cowboy

    For the first time in this election season a candidate has won with outright majorities of votes cast in two separate states. That is a big deal. Delegates may not have been won, but the momentum Rick Santorum has achieved with these wins will be huge. Maybe big enough to push Newt out and make the race Mano a Mano between Rick and Mitt. In that kind of match up I think Mitt might actually lose. Money and organization is important, but it does not automatically win, like in Colorado. I have never been more proud of my neighbors to the south.

    • clowngirl

      Santorum won a majority in Missouri (where Newt wasn’t on the ballot) but not anywhere else.

  • tetrisd85

    I can’t believe Santorum performed so strongly. Where the f* did that come from???

    Also, I actually kind of like the guy. Don’t agree with him on everything but I’d much rather have a beer with him than with Romney.

    • clowngirl

      they were campaigning for these caucuses before Florida voted.

      Newt only gave 1 day to Minnesota and Colorado combined.

  • retrocon87

    \”Right now the question becomes whether Rick Santorum can get himself the money and organization to make this last beyond this week and into expensive contests in the larger states.\”

    The Romney campaign has essentially been the epitome \”complete domination\” as far as money and organization goes…. AND HE LOST. Santorum did not win tonight because of \”money or organization,\” he won because despite Romney\’s \”money and organization,\” people just flat-out do not trust him. It is time for people to realize that MESSAGE DOES MEAN SOMETHING.

  • demsaresatanic

    and a terrible night for Romney the Inevitable. For me, the best night since SC. I hated to see Newt trashed by Romney, but I always thought that the personal attacks on Newt would ultimately backfire. Newt took one for the team, time and time again, and led Romney to expose himself as the sleaze he is; the rubber chickens came home to roost on one of his vacation homes tonight and they are headed East, smelling cranberries.

    • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

      and I’m starting to wonder if it is time for me to grace reality, unless one of the two drop out, Romney will win as the weakest nominee in a long time.

      • bonnman

        Its probably time for Newt to drop out and endorse Santorum.

        • clowngirl

          Let’s put this in perspective: Santorum’s now shown (again) that he can win caucuses where he campaigns in the state a ton more than anybody else and Newt’s just endured an unbelievable Romney/Romney Media let’s-go -nuclear-on-Newt smear campaign.

          That’s all.

          He has yet to win, or even do decently in a primary. (and the general election will be much more like a primary than a caucus)

          He has yet to really be vetted or take any real heat.

          Newt showed he could win a hotly contested primary when Romney and Santorum came in with the momentum while he was under fierce attack.

          Newt then endured worse attacks in Florida while Santorum got to do things like stay on offense for all of both debates with no candidate attacking him and no moderator asking him tough or awkward questions. Santorum has favorable debating conditions and nobody attacking him and campaigned for most of the allotted time – but he still finished 19 points behind Newt.

          Then in the *binding* (and therefore much more competitive) caucus in NV, Santorum took last place — and didn’t quite get out of single digits.

          Newt meanwhile spent no money on ads, had no organization, and campaigned lightly while putting most of his time into coming up with a new campaign strategy but beat Ron Paul who was very well organized and spent over $800,000 on ads in the state.

          Then he made a strategic decision to basically skip Colorado and Minnesota (and had decided a long ways back not to be on the Mirssouri ballot) he only campaigned for one day splitting the time between both states.

          Santorum , meanwhile started campaigning before the Florida primary and he and Ron Paul had the states to themselves.

          Santorum’s wins are impressive to a point (and helpful in stopping Romney) but only to a point.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            And in such a volatile season, where candidate after candidate has performed like a skyrocket firecracker, today’s result only show Romney’s weakness among core Republican voters.

            But let’s give him his due: Rick has stayed in the race and earned his chance to take the lead challenger role – and to face the withering fire that he’s been largely spared today. I’m willing to be surprised, but the odds are certainly against him.

            Time for some serious rethinking. You don’t beat incumbents without a viable alternative, and no one in the race currently has demonstrated viability.

          • clowngirl

            His supporters are just getting on my nerves right now.

            I was actually really happy about how well Rick did tonight (because of how much it’ll slow down Romney, etc.) but numerous people on this thread calling for Newt to get out kinda dampened that.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            .

          • clowngirl

            that Santorum should be considered the lead challenger. I don’t know that it should even be assumed Romney will be in the final 2.

            The race is wide open.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            I meant today’s lead challenger to Romney, i.e. the leading “Not Romney” – which means that he will now get the withering scrutiny that Newt got after South Carolina.

            Not that Newt is out of the race by a long shot – but right now Rick is the greater threat and is going to be the target on which the Romney and MSM guns will be focused

            Next week, who knows where the candidates will rank. Which is why it’s ridiculous for anyone to drop out today.

            I’d think the Santorum supporters would have learned this lesson from observing the fate of prior leading “Not Romney” folks.

          • clowngirl

            Will be interesting to see what Romney does with Santorum. So far, going massively negative and spending tons of money seems to be the only arrow in his quiver.

            But I wonder if even he doesn’t see how bad he would look by keeping it up.

            He started to hit Santorum a little bit in Minnesota by having Tim Pawlenty say he’s not as conservative as most of the caucus voters will be (?)

            That struck me as a particularly lame attack for 3 reasons:

            1. How is Mitt Romney or his surrogates the authority on who’s conservative?

            2. Minnesota is a purple state and ideological purity is probably not as big a criteria as in a redder one.

            3. It didn’t sound like Pawlenty even gave any specifics. People are going to hear that Romney and his people are saying Santorum is not conservative enough and be like “Yeah. Pot. Kettle.Black…”

          • bk

            If he had so little influence in MN that would seem to knock him off the VP list.

          • Creedo

            I’ve read reports that Santorum got killed in the precinct delegate votes after the caucuses were done. If you read up on the Romney and Paul forums, their supporters are all boasting about how they cleaned up the precinct delegates after Santorum supporters voted and went home. While Santorum won the non-binding straw polls, everything I’ve read suggests that Romney and yes, Paul, were the big winner where the precinct delegate battles are concerned.

          • WillWong

            Great Analysis! I still like Newt’s chances in a three way race.

          • clowngirl

            :)

            Did I mention I’m now a Newt delegate. :)

          • WillWong

            You are welcome! Always like your posts. You always provide a well reasoned defense of Newt from different angles. Newt is well served with supporters ike you. Good Night!

          • clowngirl

            I also enjoy your enthusiasm for Newt — and the diaries you write on his behalf. (you’re actually the reason I even heard about the medicare scam – and I suspect that’s true for a lot of people. There hasn’t been nearly enough press or attention paid)

          • clowngirl

            There was just one Romney delegate who wanted to compete to go to the state convention but she was weirdly passive aggressive about it.

            He asked for volunteers and I was the first to raise my hand – then he asked if there was anyone else – and this Romney supporter raises her hand but then says “But I don’t want to fight anybody for it” (so why bring it up?) So the chairman says she can be the alternate. Then another Romney supporter pipes up “Wait, can we vote on it”

            So – without letting us make speeches or anything the chairman abruptly asks who wants me as their delegate and almost everyone (12 out of 15 people) voted for me.

            I’d like to think it was because they liked my speech for Newt – but I think it’s more likely they just didn’t like the way the Romney people were being about it.

          • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

            If all the stuff being said were lies it would be one thing, but its not, Newt really has the baggage. In every state Newt has run in except S.C. that rewarded delegates, Romneys money will take Newt out, but who knows about Santorum. He is now in better position to beat Romney than Newt is.

          • JSobieski

            Newt needs to find a middle gear between focusing on Obama/talking like a high minded conservative and focusing on alleged cheap shots/inequities from the Romney campaign.

            Newt needs to whine less, and attack Romney on Romneycare.

            There is still time for Newt to turn things around.

          • bk

            It seemed like Newt’s whining about Air Force One or whatever it was turned people off way back when, and now he’s doing a lot of whining again. Even though he’s justified in criticizing attacks that are false, he comes across as being whinier than others in doing so.

          • JSobieski

            nt

          • Finrod

            Romney’s flip-flopped on just about everything other than his wife, Santorum’s House and Senate record is that of a big-government Republican. Those both matter more than sitting on a couch.

          • bonnman

            After winning SC Newt has gone on to lose the next five states in a row. Romney’s attacks have been successful and I think Newt is damaged goods now. Newt had a big upset in SC but has failed to capitalize on it since. I understand Newt might have a strategy in skipping CO,MO and MN but these are key battleground states for the general and Santorum just showed he can win there.

            Santorum understands his strengths and yes that includes caucuses and you might not like them but thats how some of the states decided they wanted to do it and it is a legitimate part of the contest. Santorum played his strengths and has the momentum, Newt is fading fast. Out of ALL three states yesterday Newt won just one single county. One.

      • clowngirl

        1. Romney will no longer be treated as inevitable or (even) the presumptive nominee.

        2. Romney will now perceive Santorum as a legitimate threat and therefore:

        start attacking him

        have to be careful not to go *too* negative on Newt in future, for fear of bringing up his own negatives.

        he’ll also have to attack both candidates which should lead to a 2 front war.

        Santorum will not likely remain untarnished and now he’ll probably get properly vetted (one would hope)

      • joereagan

        This was not a good night for Newt by any means. But it’s not nearly as bad for him as it is for Romney. What we have clearly established now is that the Republican base does not want Mitt Romney to be the nominee. Santorum did not pick up a lot of delegates tonight. Newt is still in a stronger position.

        What the voters in these states said is “we will not eat the Romney dog food you’re trying to force feed us, even though we don’t have an alternative we feel 100% confident about”. At this point, all that matters is that Romney is denied a majority of delegates. Who the non-Romney candidate will be is a decision that can wait until the convention if necessary.

        The only thing that needs to change is that Santorum and Gingrich need to stop all attacks on each other and focus solely on Romney.

        • clowngirl

          Newt didn’t have a good night at all in terms of his performance in these states – perhaps a better way of putting it was that last night’s results are helpful to Newt in the big scheme of things.

          I agree that it wasn’t NEARLY as bad a night for Newt as for Romney — because of expectations that were set, because he supposedly was on a roll, and because he mixed it up with Santorum and spent more time in the states.

          IMO, the media’s pro-Romney bias is starting to hurt him. They pump him up to such a degree that reality can’t help but send him crashing down.

        • demsaresatanic

          “what we have clearly established now is that the Republican base does not want Mitt Romney to be the nominee. Santorum did not pick up a lot of delegates tonight. Newt is still in a stronger position,”

          yet you also say “this was not a good night for Newt by any means.”

          Your conclusions conflict, a terrible night for Romney is indeed a good night for Newt.

          The most important result was the blow to “Romney the Inevitable,” Newt can compete with Santorum on the issues, Newt’s largest obstacle is the Romney big money smear campaign.

  • clowngirl

    Way to go beating Romney on practically his home turf.

    Now hopefully we’ll see Santorum get properly vetted and take his share of heat from the Romney camp and the press.

    Now we’ve got a real race.

  • jamesm

    Romney stepped into a big swing by Rick Santorum tonight and got clobbered. Romney set himself up to be the ball in a 5 year olds T-Ball game. Rick Santorum was the the one swinging. Gingrich was in Ohio presumably watch todays game on TV, Three home run game today. A win for the not romney team.

  • azaeroprof

    I must admit that I thought Santorum’s candidacy was a joke when he got in (I thought that about Gingrich, too, BTW). His early debate performances were flat and whiny. But there is definitely something to be said about the whole campaign process that can grow a person, and change them. I have, slowly, developed a great deal of respect for Santorum. Not that I think he is a perfect conservative, or that I agree with him on all the issues. But I do believe he is a fundamentally decent person who is running for the right reasons. The more I learn about his family and the choices his wife and he have made, the more I like them.

    Although I have been leaning Gingrich for some time now, I must agree with some of the comments above that it makes sense for Gingrich to gracefully bow out, acknowledge that he is a flawed vessel, and throw his support fully behind Santorum.

    • deVere

      No need for either of them to consider that until April, when “winner take all” primaries begin in earnest. Things are gong well for the “not Romney” team..

      • azaeroprof

        Had Gingrich shown better tonight, I might be inclined to agree with you.

    • Common_Cents

      brokered convention just easily rolls off peoples tongues.

      As you mention, all the candidates have come a long way in their campaigns, through much effort. But look how much it takes to put together a campaign and succeed. To think someone can just jump in and excel is riskier than any of the candidates now.

      I am reminded of the calls for Jindal. What if he jumped in at the last minute and gave performances like he did in the reply to state of the union?

      What if Haley Barbour had jumped in, and the prisoner release debacle happened?

      • JSobieski

        Nobody thinks its a great option, but we do think it is a desirable option relative to the other obvious choices.

        If you have to play Michael Jordan in a game of 1 on 1 basketball—-best to do so in a hurricane.

        If you have to play a supercomputer in a game of something,choose poker not chess.

        • Ausonius

          King Jan Sobieski expresses my dismay also.

          I have written elsewhere that we might end up with no clear winner of a majority of votes from the primaries by the end of Super Tuesday.

          Fighting it out at a convention might not be a bad idea: a Romney/Santorum ticket could be the result.

          But if not, who would be the alternative to our present benchwarmers?

          West? Rubio? McCotter? Walker of Wisconsin? Kasich of Ohio?

          Or how about North Carolina Rep. Renee Ellmers?

        • Ann_W

          We got Lincoln through a brokered convention, so that was a good precedent, but what if the delegates chose someone really divisive. I wonder if we could start a drumbeat of who we want. Probably just a daydream situation, but a brokered convention is looking really good in a year that should be a slamdunk for Republicans, but isn’t by a long shot. If it was just a straight conservative ideals vs. Obama’s record we would win. But who is that blank slate?

          • Ann_W

            nt

          • Ausonius

            I agree that it might seem daunting, but the assorted problems would not be insurmountable.

            Think of the drama and therefore publicity of a convention where – like in the good ol’ days – the outcome is not like a rigged boxing match. :)

            Plus, the losing candidates (I would hope) would throw their support and their expert staffs to the winner, so that (s)he could hit the ground running against BIG BRObama.

            If the candidate enthused the assorted Tea Parties around the country, you would see all kinds of energy whirling around.

          • acat

            we’re likely to get a curate’s egg…

            Mew

          • Ann_W

            **Files info away for her Jeopardy appearance**

            There’s got to be a way to do it right, though. In it’s best form it could be the people choosing the candidate not limited by people with the money/massive ego it takes to choose to run for president.

          • Ausonius

            Certainly it has not had much success recently: remember Wesley Clark?

            Eisenhower was courted by both parties in 1952.

            But I think – like “Jan” Sobieski below – that we need to postulate assorted scenarios and keep our options open, given the volatility in our almost weekly “front-runners” these days!

            And did I read that Paul outdid Romney (3rd place) in Minnesota!?! :)

            Volatile indeed! It still seems that a good number of Republicans do not want Romney!

      • Finrod

        But I don’t see a brokered convention happening, so this discussion is largely pointless.

        • JSobieski

          and disagree that a brokered convention is substantially less likely that Santorum or Newt winning outright.

          So to the extent that the primaries are worth discussing, a brokered convention is worth discussing.

  • quill67

    For many Romney voters this was the only reason to vote for him—that is going away. If he loses Arizona and Michigan, he is probably done.

    Amazing.

    • Common_Cents

      Coffee is for closers!

  • CarolT

    Mitt must be furioius becuase he lost by 30 point s to Santorum. I was for Rick Perry but he dropped out. Mitt had T-Paw attacking Santorum Monday. Mitt’s going to get another webiste to launch attacks at Santorum now, or maybe he can reuse Career Pol because that was to launch attacks at Rick Perry.
    Does Mitt offer any solutions? I see only his surrogates attacking the current leader of the not-Romneys.
    I think Mitt should hang it up and drop out, he’s been running for six years and has less votes in CO than he did in 2008. No one wants to go to vote for Mitt.

    • romansdaughter

      You can only trash other candidates when you have no record to stand on. So guess what in my opinion happens?? If it is Mittens against Obama. Obama is going to win cause he has more money in his war chest and Mitt doesn’t have a good record to balance that. That is why I felt Rick Perry was the only one with the record to beat Obama.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …and he will need to have good answers to the profound issues raised on my diary-site and by Guzzardi @ The Liberty Blog.

    • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

      Like Newt, Rick has a lot of history to defend. It may be doable, but he’s going to have to be far more skilled than Newt. At least he’s more focused that Newt.

      It’s hard to see that Rick will have a different trajectory than his predecessors, except possibly that he’s that last “Not” standing. (Ron Paul doesn’t count.)

      http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2012/02/08/santorum-sweeps/#comment-15933

      We need these three weeks badly.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    It’s Romney now.

    • deVere

      nt

    • demsaresatanic

      after seeing Oromney crash and burn, but some took LSD.

    • texasref

      It’s Not-Romney, now.

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        If not Newt, then Romney.

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          no-text

  • dajeeps

    I have mostly been anti-Romney this cycle, and a Gingrich supporter second. If Gingrich doesn’t do any better than he did tonight going forward, it is much easier to concede defeat to Santorum than it is to do so to the guy with the kind of substantive governing baggage that matters, and the one who can’t seem to clearly articulate the principles of freedom economics and resorts to the language of class warfare from the left when cornered by the press on the safety nets and minimum wage.

    Santorum has a record of being a pro-life statist, but I have gone back and listened to what he has said about the votes he made and the legislation he has sponsored, and I’m satisfied that he gets we are fed up with big government. That doesn’t mean that will always translate into meaningful reform in a Santorum administration, but I think it most certainly will not mean a constant default to the staus quo and jacking of the central planning apparatus for the benefit of different people with the same kinds of problems nagging average Joe. We at least have a fighting chance to make things better with Santorum, and very little chance with Romney.

    • marktx

      One of the driving issues among the base of the party is the strong opposition to ObamaCare and socialized medicine. As we all know, Mitt created Romneycare. What many don’t know is that Newt Gingrich created a per profit organization that worked closely with health insurance companies in an effort to bring universal healthcare to America using mandates. Gingrich is much closer to Romney on this issue than he is to Santorum.

      In fact, among the three candidates, Santorum is the only one who can make a viable argument against Obamacare.

    • demsaresatanic

      Newt couldn’t afford to spend much time and money in races were the number of delegates actually chosen is trivial. Santorum had a make or break situation and gave it everything he could. Consider that, consider what happened to Romney’s claim of inevitability, and don’t be too alarmed at Newt’s numbers.

    • joereagan

      Gingrich abandoned the contests that took place yesterday. He’s been focusing ahead, and he’s currently leading in Ohio. Super Tuesday and the contests for the following month have a lot of concentration in the South. Santorum’s wins will take heat off of Newt, and if he can make the most of coming debates, he’s definitely still in it. Santorum’s challenges are bigger. He’s done well in caucuses, but not primaries.

  • retrocon87

    Newt was destroyed tonight. He was third or worse in all three states and he couldn\’t even muster up the courage to give even another \”press conference\” to put forth any semblance of a strategy on how he is still at all in this. He is effectively \”pulling a Guiliani\” thinking \”I think my strong area is Texas so even if it\’s over a month away I\’ll just focus all my time there and whatever happens until then is completely irrelevant.\” It didn\’t work for Giuliani in Florida in 2008 and it won\’t work for Newt this time around either. The question now is which is worse: Mitt, or the \”pro-life statist\” who in the general will be portrayed to every independent woman voter in the country as the guy who will \”outlaw your birth control and force you to deliver your rapist\’s baby.\”

    who the hell knows. i don\’t even know what to think anymore at this point

    • bk

      That may have been the biggest shocker of the evening.

    • demsaresatanic

      keep trying and maybe you can transcend gibberish and get there.

  • septembergurl

    His voting record is not consistently conservative, to put it mildly. However, like Gingrich, he is preferable to Romney. He has made the best and most consistent attack on Romneycare, for example. He obviously has a strong appeal to Midwestern voters, and his win in Missouri, where he carried every county,shows strength in border states.

    As we recall, after winning Iowa, he stalled in NH and SC. It remains to be seen whether he can win in the northeast or the south. He has a chance to show his appeal to rust belt states in the contest coming up in michigan, and test his appeal in the Southwest beyond Colorado when Arizona votes later in February.

    As to Gingrich, his strength in the South will be tested in the primaries and caucuses coming up in March. It is way too soon to write him off.

    The big question raised by tonite is how much longer the GOP establishment is going to be giving their support to romney after this defeat. should be entertaining.

    • marktx

      As long as Santorum and Newt play ping pong, Romney will win.

      • WillWong

        Santorum can take the rest of the caucussi where his retail campaigning works so well and Newt will take the rest of the primaries. How’s that for an arrangement?

  • krish

    Especially if the conservative base rallies around Rick & he wins AZ & comes 2nd in Michigan, I thought Newt would be the guy representing conservative wing of the party but if Santorum beats him handily in the next two primaries, I am ok going with Santorum & may be Newt can step down & endorse Santorum!

    Tha goal is to Not to let MA liberal be the republican nominee!

    • WillWong

      I expect Newt to sweep the south. But we should know better by Super Tuesday.

  • WillWong

    He had two much lower moments, first in May 2011 when his entire Iowa senior staff quit, and in late Dec 2011 when Mitt and Ron dropped a few $M of unanswered negative and mostly false ads on him and he lost his lead just weeks before the Caucus.

    You don’t get to be the first Republican Speaker of the House in 40 years for nothing! Now that Romney cannot focus all his negative ads on Newt would allow Newt to play on a more level playing field. We will know a lot better by Super Tuesday.

    • demsaresatanic

      right, and right.

  • CarolT

    The GOP Establishment must be on the verge of a breakdown. I wonder what they will do and/or say Wednesday.
    I am happy Rick Santorum upset Romney’s next in line theory.
    Do the establishment finally realize we do not want the loser from the last time? What are they going to do? Will they push for a brokered convention? I don’t think the people that have voted would stand for it.
    Good night.

  • clowngirl

    Beat Romney in Minnesota.

    Just to put these non-binding caucuses that candidates who bothered to compete in the bigger states didn’t pay as much attention to into perspective.

    Santorum deserves credit to a point, but some of y’all are going WAY over the top and getting obnoxious.

    We’ll see what happens Super Tuesday.

    Goodnight.

  • krish

    After listening to Fox Romney supporters (Krauthammer – unabahed Rombot), we can expect a makeover for Mit. He needed to be tough & take on some conservative causes so that base will trust him!

    The arrogance of East Coast RINOs is amazing to watch! Their views of conservatives in the middle & south of the country is same as Democrats! Gun loving, church going, illiterate idiots who have to be put up with & managed with the right language!

    These East coast republicans think if Romney takes up one or two conservative message & sticks to it (there is no discussion of whether Romney believes in conservative policies!), the conservatives & tea partyers will start trusting him!

    Watch out for the “new & improved” MA Liberal – Mitt will soon be our own slick willie! If that does not work out since he is so wooden, they have the money & Establishment to destroy Santorum!

    • WillWong

      is no conservatism at all. Rom,ney is a progressive. in an unguarded situation, he spoke from his heart and delivered liberal gems like the minimum wage hike and the safety net for the poor (not really a gaffe but a reflection of his core beliefs).

    • demsaresatanic

      see the next Oromney makeover.

  • ThePoliticalHat

    The economic situation is what people care about right now, and every time he talks about values (regardless of how valid they are), it makes him appear to care less about the economic problems people have to deal with under Obamanomics.

    It also makes him VERY EASY to demonize.

    I also question his conservative philosophy. He certainly has many traditional mores, but I’ve never seen him talk about conservatism as a governing philosophy in a way that defines the proper role of government as one of limited reach or Burkean sensibility.

    I must admit, though, that if by some freakish chance he gets elected, it would be worth it to see the gay/left groups go bonkers that a “hater” becomes president and nominates judges.

    Sadly, my standard refrain will probably ring true: “This will not end well.”

    That being said, I will vote for the eventual nominee against Obama. I fear, though, that Santorum would do so badly in Nevada that the Dems will pick up the Senate seat.

  • joereagan

    I definitely didn’t see this coming, but I applaud the voters in these states. I still think Newt is the stronger non-Romney, and I do not think he should drop out. Having Romney rebuked in this manner is infinitely more important than who won.

  • Juggernaut

    because that sweep favors Santorum and Newt. People are learning about Romney from the net, not the chickcrapping turds at Faux Noise who refuse to vett Romney. Normally I like fox but after years of ranting about NBC they have only themselves to blame. Time for another conservative tv channel to shake things up. Breitbart TV!!!

  • clowngirl

    this is devastating to the Romney camp’s “We’re the only ones who can compete in multiple states simultaneously” claim.

    And to any notion that they’re somehow the ones running the smartest campaign:

    Santorum announced that he was going to compete hard for the caucus states during the last week of January. The threat should’ve been obvious.

    You could argue that Newt should’ve seen it too — but we don’t know that he didn’t. what could Newt have done about it? Low on money busy regrouping and rethinking his strategy, and making sure he finished respectably in Nevada, Newt made the strategic decision to allocate for resources to CO or MN and focus on Super Tuesday.

    But Romney’s “inevitability” was largely based on the idea that he was the most organized and competent campaigner and his ability to outresource the other candidates. He could have easily allocated a couple million each to Colorado, Missouri, and Minnesota running television ads attacking Santorum.

    But they (clearly) underestimated Rick and found out that their attack-Newt-only strategy is not going to cut it.

    Useful for them to know that going forward.

    • clowngirl

      It causes one to question: In what ways would Romney be likely to estimate Obama? Which groups support would he take for granted?

      But most importantly:

      Can Romney win without trashing and massively outspending his opponent?

  • WillWong

    Santorum decided to skip Florida and went to Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri to court pastors, tea partiers, and other conservatives while letting Newt hold the conservative fort alone against the Mitten Machine.

    Santorum is to be congratulated for having the right strategy although truth be told, the lack of money kind of forced him into that strategy.

    Romney may have underestimated Santorum as well and may yet regret not attacking Santorum the way he did to Newt. Romney still fear Newt more than Santorum, and rightly so.

    Newt and Santorum are showing how shrewd strategizing can overcome organization and big money. This is going to be interesting.

    • clowngirl

      Santorum didn’t entirely skip Florida – but yes, he did leave early.

      But if Newt had done the same thing, we’d likely have had a much more pro-Romney outcome.

      As you pointed out, he held down the fort in Florida. If Newt hadn’t been busting his tail campaigning, bringing up turn out in conservative districts- Romney likely would’ve taken a clear majority.

      Then in Nevada, if Newt hadn’t been a significant presence (even though he campaigned lightly and was regrouping) Romney might’ve beaten his 2008 NV showing and, with Ron Paul in 2nd, Newt in the teens and Rick in single digits, he would’ve been portrayed as having practically wrapped up the nomination (not that he didn’t foolish try and portray himself that way anyway)

      Then with Newt and Rick battling hard for the caucus states, Newt would almost certainly have taken enough votes from Santorum in Colorado that Romney would’ve eaked out a win and could’ve said “hey, I barely campaigned there”

      The 2 of them could’nt have orchestrated it better if they’d tried. (I don’t think they did try – each campaign was just acting in its enlightened self interest)

      I posted a few days ago that the best thing for Newt (even better than him winning a state) would be for Santorum to win 2 states– he exceeded my expectations and won 3 but I still think it’s the best scenario for a Gingich win.

      If Newt had won Minnesota (for example) he didn’t have time to campaign enough to win big and it would be spun as irrelevant. But the media and the Romney campaign would be in full attack mode.

      Instead Romney’s had a painful lesson on how just attacking Newt all the time isn’t gonna do it. He’ll now have to split his focus and deal with 2 potentially mortal threats.

      And he’s actually less equipped for Super Tuesday because, unlike Gingrich and Santorum, his campaign relies on massively outspending the competition. He won’t be able to do that in every state.

      It’s a very exciting point in the race and (I think) the beginning of the end for Mitt Romney.

      • WillWong

        Because I don’t think they tried to coordinate their campaign in the last three states, I can only say, with a certain amount of glee that God does work in mysterious ways!

        • clowngirl

          Gingrich and Santorum weren’t trying to help each other – they’re competitors.

          Each is trying to do the best they can to win the Republican nomination for themselves.

          But because each pursue that goal in an effective and basically honest fashion (Santorum’s unfortunate recent diary here notwithstanding) they help themselves, each other, the GOP and ultimately – hopefully- the whole country.

          Had Romney and his media gotten their wish – we’d have had a short brutal primary with much of the base left dispirited, the Democrats and independents finding our primary boring and paying little attention, and Obama and company getting 8 or 9 months to sink their teeth into Romney and paint him as all things callous, out of touch, and phony.

          Instead we’re going to have a vital and exciting primary – a bit of a David and Goliath story (though with 2 David’s) as the country marvels at how Newt and Rick checkmate Mitt Romney (sooner than many would believe possible) and then – by the time it’s genuinely down to a 2 man race – even independents and most Democrats will have been unable to resist following our compelling and unpredictable primary. They’ll develop preference’s and won’t be able to help feeling some respect for our gladiators (Did I mention my Democrat Mom likes both Gingrich and Santorum now – and can’t stand Romney)

          Apathy among Republicans will fast go away as the voters assert that they – and not their media – will pick the best candidate, and as Newt and Rick increasingly rise to the occasion – getting smarter and better at campaigning, fine tuning their message, suddenly a lot of “independents” who told themselves they were just watching for the theatre will start to realize they’ve unconsciously drifted to the right…

          Romney was completely off base when he talked about how we should hurry up and pick (him) so as not to get outspent in the general. An exciting, positive race will generate billions of dollars worth of free publicity.

    • Common_Cents

      Does romney try to finish off Gingrich first? Knowing Gingrich comes back more times than Jason Vorhees?

      Does Romney open up a new front on Santorum?

      Can Romney do both w/out suffering from negative backlash?

      • WillWong

        and still lost. To open up another front against Santorum, he might have to dig into his own wallet again!

        I don’t think he can do any more damage to Newt! I believe Newt is getting ready for his third coming.

        Adelson said the other day that he will continue to fund Newt’s campaign as long as he wants to stay in.

    • demsaresatanic

      I am more and more confident that Romney won’t be able to buy the election.

  • trickamsterdam

    Paul is clearly not going to be the nominee. In fact, VA might well be the only state he ends up winning.

    But if Paul wins VA it will make it clear to the Establishment that MItt is a dead duck in November. There’s no way a Paul win can be rationalized away like a Santorum or Newt one. You simply cannot be this hated by your own Party and then win as difficult an election as taking down an incumbent President will certainly be.

    Personally, I think after the Dems start a whispering campaign about his religion, and cut him to pieces w/a lightning war of ads and hordes of MSM surrogates about his Bain Capital adventures, he won’t even win moderates or independents in the General…but that’s neither here nor there.

    The Establishment will fear w/a VA loss, that Mitt is so hated, that it may affect turn-out to the point where it may endanger the House and goal of taking over the Senate.

    That’s when they’ll force another candidate into the race and just do a million little things to bring Romney down…and no one will have any doubt any longer that there is such a thing as an Establishment.

    Note: It may be the base will reject this new candidate and stay loyal to Santorum (I don’t think Newt at this point), but the important thing is Romney will start to fade and then he will go.

    Do the right thing VA. It is time for you to become legends.

    • jamesm

      Lots of the establishment live in VA. A vote for Paul is a vote for the Not Romney team. Paul can’t win the general so this would be a clear message to the establishment. If I live in VA I would vote for the Not Romney. Go Paul! LOL

      • bk

        Which implies lots of Romney votes there, right?

        • trickamsterdam

          Yes, but all the more reason they’ll go into shock if the upset happens. They’ll vote for Romney, but since it’s a two-man race, the “not Romney” vote should be united.

          Not only that, but Perry and Newt and Santorum (even Huntsman) supporters may still be ticked about the ballot thing…might give them extra incentive to come out and stick it to the perceived (and in my opinion he actually is) Establishment pick.

          Furthermore, it’s an open primary. Democrats may try an Operation Chaos thing, or some may genuinely like Paul’s ideas. They could get Paul over the top…but couldn’t nearly win the election by themselves…only the base can do that…if Paul wins I just can’t see how it isn’t fatal to Romney. It just means he’s flat-out hated.

          I’m curious to see how the Establishment reacts to Santorum.. It’s clear Newt made a lot of enemies in DC. Santorum hasn’t…also how the Romney surrogates react…J. Rubin, Coulter, the beautiful boys at NRO, all built Santorum up because they wanted to divide the Not-Romney vote, and maybe keep at least a bit of their conservative cache.

          How are they going to reverse themselves now w/out seeming like total Romney zombies?

          BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

    • jamesm

      nt

      • acat

        as Obama and the Dems have hired staffers at every possible agency.

        The *only* market in the country where employment rates and home prices went up following 2008 was D.C.

        Mew

        • snowshooze

          This is how it is done.

  • deVere

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Santorum-Obama-trying-to-allow-Iran-to-have-nuke-3193575.php

    • jamesm

      Look at his history. Look at videos of him online mocking jesus. Look at his attack on the Catholic Church. Look at his treatment of Israel. The most Anti Christian president ever. Look at his video with George Stephanopoulus where he says his “my muslim faith”. I believe Israel disgust him. Yes Iran will have a nuke if they don’t already.

      • snowshooze

        But they can’t throw them far enough.

        • jamesm

          and they are working on a Nuclear Trigger. A factory was apparently sabotaged a while ago. This is where they were were on the development of their missles. Inaddition several nuke scientists have been assassinated. Iranians are so close. They will use them in attempt to destroy Israel.

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  • goodgovernance

    From the beginning, Romney’s strengths were always the sheer mass and momentum of his campaign machine, as well as all the years of planning he had put into his 2012 effort. All of that should have meant clinching the nomination by South Carolina.

    Instead, Romney can’t get any real lift. He carries around an enthusiasm-dampening field with him wherever he goes, so that voter turnout is down in the places he winds up winning.

    The flashing sirens and warning klaxons are getting brighter, louder, and increasingly difficult to ignore. Romney is the weakest GOP frontrunner of the modern era. His campaign, far from being inevitable, is a giant flaming meteor in its own right.

    The question is, do we all want to ride that meteor with Willard?

  • hal2715

    I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy the show from here on out. I don’t even know what to expect anymore.

  • acat

    is the key point.

    Santorum put on quite a show…. but does it signify anything?

    Turnout in Minnesota is reported (over at Power Line) to be low. I suspect it’s similar in Colorado and Missouri, although I’ll wait for Bill S. to show me some numbers. (I kid, I kid)

    Seriously. This changed nothing but image .. and it may be enough to re-target the Romney campaign’s bile machine.

    I don’t really think it’s got more meaning.

    Mew

  • Locked and Loaded

    actually account for something this year?

  • bonnman

    Actually Santorum deserves credit he’s won 4 out of 7 states so far, Romney 3 and Newt just 1. Of course the primary is about delegates but he’s showing strong.

  • TexasTami

    …is that people are going to take a first look at Santorum now. I think most people gave Santorum only a glance over their shoulders and moved to the established politicians, Romney and Gingrich. Now, they’re going to seriously take a studied gander at Santorum. I think they’ll like what they see. Being a governor and “running” a business doesn’t necessarily make a great president. Look at Carter; he had the credentials and fell flat as a president. I am looking at Santorum, too. Maybe it’s time for Gingrich to step out of the race and give Santorum a chance against Romney. Missouri was a strong indicator on where conservatives will place their votes, if given a chance not to split them.

  • http://www.writeinryan.com ragnarthepirate

    They’ll start seriously looking now. Expect it.

    Santorum isn’t my favorite candidate. He was wrong on earmarks and big government policies in the past. But you know what? So was nearly every other GOP office-holder during Bush’s tenure.

    Santorum has a masterful command of the issues. He gets crony capitalism and the need to stand against Wall Street more than anyone else currently in the field. He’s serious about making hard choices to reform entitlements and get us on the right fiscal path. He’s pitch perfect on most social issues.

    Newt should get out and throw his support to Santorum a week before Super Tuesday. Newt’s negatives are too high to recover. That is the only way we stop Romney and possibly get to a brokered convention with someone else emerging.

  • msbs05

    and Santorum is putting together a much stronger force than Romney ever could. Romney’s only message was he could beat Obama. Rasmussen showed that Santorum beats Obama in the polls and Romney loses. With Rick’s message on manufacturing he can bring out the blue collar Dems that Romney would never be able to connect with in the general. Without the MSM and establishment pushing him, Romney would have lost all 8 states, as it is he has only won 3 of 8, which is not a winning record no matter how it is spun by pundits. Having a Catholic running on our ticket, at a time when the Roman Church is willing to fight Obama from the pulpit, having the first Italian American as nominee, having a social conservative to energize the pro-life evangelical vote – it is all stronger than anything Mitt could offer. I am so happy with the results tonight. Santorum can win the WH with conservative support!

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    It’s starting to move towards Santorum being in a great position.

  • http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/ Paula

    I think Santorum is the only candidate who has been talking to that demographic and it will resonate in Ohio, which has been bleeding jobs for decades. When Romney says he knows how to create jobs, blue collar people around here scratch their heads and wonder what kind of jobs this Bain Capital executive has in mind for unemployed factory workers. There’s a huge disconnect.

    Best comment I heard tonight was from David Gergen on CNN: “”I’ll just say flat out. I didn’t see it coming. The Romney bandwagon just went in the ditch.”

    Made my night.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    Wait until the attack ads come out against Santorum based on his past words and statements. There had better be a lot of deep thinking going on in the next few weeks, or it will be another Obama election where the field has been cleared of credible opponents.

  • bk

    is the number of dollars that result.

  • ragstoriches

    “I don?t really think it?s got more meaning” sums up everything that’s wrong with this country at the moment.

    When a vote of any kind by We the People means very little or nothing, there’s something wrong the Republic.

  • marktx

    Voting patterns are becoming clearer after tonight. And while Mitt Romney could still win the nomination, he will never win the general against Obama. Here’s why….

    Romney has significant problem with the base of the party. While it’s true that in a general election swing state voters and extremely important, if the nominee cannot create enthusiasm among the base, he will lose. Romney has considerable trouble in midwest swing states that republicans will need to win in November.

    Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, and Colorado all went to Santorum. Romney only did well in higher income areas of those states, but couldn’t seal the deal with blue collar and evangelical voters. That’s big trouble for Romney in the coming months of the campaign.

    So where does the race stand as of tonight ? I’m guessing the Romney campaign will spend millions on negative ads directed at Santorum. This approach worked for Romney against Gingrich, and it probably will work against Santorum. The problem for Romney is that he has no positive message of his own. As his scorched earth campaign against conservatives proceeds, he might end up winning the nomination by default only because he has the most money. But come November, Romney will have such high negatives (and no positive message) he will be easy pickings for the Obama campaign while conservatives stay home and watch the trainwreck.

  • clowngirl

    He had a much worse night than Newt. Yes, he finished higher overall — but February was *expected* to be a bad month for Newt and a very good month for Romney.

    Romney won both Colorado and Minnesota in 2008 (CO with 60% of the vote) He had Pawlenty acting as a surrogate in Minnesota and Colorado is part of the “Mormon Belt” and has a caucus — the type of situation that he’s supposed to dominate.

    To be fair, Romney didn’t give that much attention to CO or MN – but he supposedly had huge momentum now coming out of Florida and Nevada.

    Romney went nuclear on the Speaker in Florida and then Newt spent 3 or 4 days shaking up and reorganizing his campaign doing just a little campaigning, then made a strategic decision to barely campaign in Colorado or Minnesota and instead to move on to Ohio/ prepare for Super Tuesday.

    Santorum, on the other hand, skipped out early on the more hotly contested Florida and Nevada and he and Ron Paul had these states to themselves for about a week.( if Newt had made the same decision and bailed out early in Florida it would have been very bad for the not-Romney cause. ) he hasn’t been particularly under attack – almost certainly reaping the benefits of being the only plausible candidate neither launching a nuclear attack or withstanding one.

    It’s not surprising to me that he should do somewhat well -and I’m glad he did.

    But let’s put this in perspective. Santorum has shown he can win caucus states where he’s spent a ton more time physically present than anybody else ( I’d guess the number of events Santorum did in Colorado and Minnesota compared to Newt was likely 10 to 1) and whose contests take place shortly after Newt absorbs an unbelievable amount of attacks.

    Newt won South Carolina while it was being hotly contested and he was personally under fire. Santorum also came in with the momentum and wound up losing to Newt by 23 points. Then he finished a distant last in the next 3 contests.

    He hasn’t shown that he can win – or even perform decently – in primaries.

    So we’ll see how he fares in future — but I don’t think we need to be panicking and calling for either not-Romney to get out. They both have a case for staying in – and Romney just had a pretty major setback.

    Now we can see what happens as Santorum gets more scrutiny, Newt tries to string together multiple Super Tuesday victories, employees a new strategy at the next debate, etc.

    Meanwhile for Romney, I’d say Arizona and Michigan just got reclassified as “Must win” (at least to maintain front runner status – if that’s even enough)

  • clowngirl

    After SC, Santorum finished a distant last in the next TWO contests (not 3)

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and the only way to beat him is going to be if one of the two drop out, Santorum seems to have the momentum, his negatives are no where near is bad as either Romney or Gingriches.

    Above all else, Newt said beating Romney was vital to winning against Obama, If recent polls are any indication, Newt is losing support fast.

  • demsaresatanic

    Romneybots are running out of even silly arguments, it’s down to wailing now. Romney’s pukebirds coming home to roost. Oh what a night.

  • marktx

    Newt has lost his focus, is unorganized, and whines too much. He’s not going to be the nominee. If Newt really cares about defeating Romney, he will take a close look at Santorum’s big victories tonight and end his campaign. The only way to stop Romney will be to have a united anti-romney, and Santorum has shown he is the guy.

  • texasref

    I would hope Santorum is gentleman enough to guarantee Newt a spot as veep, at the very least.

  • clowngirl

    He won no delegates in tonight’s non-binding caucuses and had very little competition (in terms of candidates physically investing time in the states)

    Newt made a strategic decision to pretty much skip this round.

    Santorum also hasn’t really been vetted.

    So, I don’t agree that he’s proven he’s the guy to beat Mitt Romney. That would require winning in primaries — that are hotly contested, while under intense attacks and Santorum hasn’t remotely shown he can do that yet.

  • progressivelibertarian

    Kudos to Santorum for an amazing showing! The night belonged to him!!

    But does anyone really believe that he can take the kind of pounding that the Romneybot unleashed against Newt (13,000 negative attack TV spots against him, and Newt still pulled in a strong 32% in FL) in IA and FL and stay afloat? I doubt it, but we’ll probably find out soon. If Santorum can weather that storm and still keep winning states, then he’d positively deserve the nomination.

    If not, Newt is more of an accomplished candidate to put up against Obama, and would likely make a much better president (think Contract with America, 1994 GOP romp, balanced budgets, welfare reform, etc) as well.

  • WillWong

    And it is interesting to note that while all these attacks were going on, Rick and Ron showed a deafening silence which only further embolden Romney and his hachet PAC for more future attacks.

    Romney and his surrogates will have to focus some of their ammo on Rick now. It will be fun to watch.

  • progressivelibertarian

    but they were also taking their own opportunistic potshots at Newt while he was getting hammered by Romney. Not sure if anyone took notice, but Santorum and Paul started referring to Newt as “Congressman Gingrich” (Santorum said this over and over in FL debates, while some Paul campaign press releases used this title), i.e. demoting him from his higher stature role of speakership, to belittle and undermine Newt using a pathetically cheap tactic. In his post-FL speeches, Santorum was blaming the victim, i.e. Newt, for getting hammered by Romney’s attacks by saying “Newt became the issue” (no, Rick, Romney’s nasty attacking was the issue, as you’ll soon find out), while Paul has been busy sending hugs and kisses to Romney (which he’s still doing.) Shame on them.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    to them. Romney ran ads that had some truth to them, when it comes to lobbying, the evidence is there, it was the lobbying department Newt dealt with. Romney did deceive about the part where Newt was not a reaganite, but who in this campaign has not claimed the others were not one.

    I’m saying that Newt was a flawed vessel to begin with, it should be no surprise he is now flailing. I would not be surprised if Newt had another comeback either. That is just how this cycle has been.

  • bk

    Governor Romney
    Senator Santorum
    Speaker Gingrich

    All those need “former” in front of them.

  • WillWong

    And I also read somewhere that if we do nothing to stop injustice when the victim of injustice is someone else, very soon, you will also become victim of the same injustice. I think that article talks about Nazi Germany where they started rounding up gypsies, homosexuals, and Jews and people just stood and watch and before long, the entire world was engulf in WW2.

  • clowngirl

    Makes you wonder if they’ll start talking about why they oppose the polices of “State Senator Obama.”

    I hadn’t realized Ron Paul was calling Newt “Congressman” but did notice it from Santorum and thought it sounded very disrespectful and sad.

    And yeah, they should’ve stuck up for Newt a little when he was being smeared instead of just piling on.

    Well, if Romney starts giving Santorum the same treatment, I won’t lose sleep over it.

  • Common_Cents

    Congressman Gingrich, ah, the games they play.

    For Santorum to be real, he’s gonna have to prove he can win southern states.

  • acat

    The votes today have no more weight than votes on American Idol….

    Mew

  • naysayer

    I don’t know. This reminds me of the Huckabee phenomenon in 2008. Lots of excitement (and a few wins) for a social conservative candidate who outlasted the others to become the primary challenger to the moderate Establishment favorite, but who eventually faded.

    Santorum may put up a good showing (and I never thought I’d be writing those words) but my money is still on Romney to take the nomination at this point, based on the pattern I see in play.

  • lapert

    You are right, and 2008 is the closest (though of course imperfect) analogy. Santorum is Huckabee and Gingrich (ironically enough) is Romney. (I would take it even further and say Perry is Thompson, the interesting conservative that demonstrated an inability to run a presidential campaign and Pawlenty or Huntsman can be Giuliani, a legitimate mainstream candidate who chose a losing strategy).

    The narrative is only for the sake of those who follow closely and need to see it as a narrative or press who need to manufacture a story out of what is more or less independent and unimportant events. There is no grand electorate message contained in caucuses that each represented around 5% of the Republican electorate in those states – and they are certainly not a random sample. Missouri may be the closest to a legitimate signal but it is kind of like Alabama or Arkansas last time for Huckabee.

    The reality of the race hasn’t changed and much like 2008 people will talk about Santorum as the upstart, social conservative who will challenge the moderate GOP and Gingrich is sitting there as the more natural challenger but both are just mirages that won’t be able to be maintained after super Tuesday.

  • lapert

    Actually, it is proper to use their highest title if it is a general position held by many simultaneously (like Senator Santorum or Congressman Gingrich) but to use former if it is position held by one at a time (like Former Governor Romney, Former Speaker Gingrich or Former President Obama)

  • WillWong

    Santorum hasn’t been vetted yet. The same Santorum was languishing at 3% back in November. Only the miscalculation of Romney allowed Santorum to sneak up on everybody and won Iowa!

  • clowngirl

    before calling for Newt to drop out?

    Yes, Santorum had a good night and probably has more momentum at the moment but he’s far from establishing himself as the clearly stronger candidate.

    I could sight plenty of evidence that points to Newt being the stronger choice.

    I don’t by into the idea that either of them need to drop out. Both Gingrich and Santorum have shown they deserve to stay in.

    It’s possible that Gingrich will take several states on Super Tuesday, Santorum will take a few, Paul will take VA and Romney will massively underperform.

    If that happens, I don’t think he has it in him to go the distance if he has to struggle.

  • acat

    There are definitely echoes here.

    I suggest casting Willard Romney as Richard Nixon and Ron Paul as Nelson Rockefeller. Not sure whether to cast Gingrich or Santorum as a young Ronald Reagan .. it doesn’t really fit either very well.

    Mew

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    You want a guy who’s won only caucuses where the turnout is about 1-2% to be the anointed one? Please.

  • bk

    I believe he was running ads about nasty stuff done in MA while Romney was governor … except it was for stuff he vetoed and was overridden on. That’s a lie in my book to make it look like it was Romney’s doing.

  • clowngirl

    There was no truth whatsoever to the claim that John McCain illegitimately fathered the little girl he adopted, but the lie was effective.

    Propaganda masters like Stalin and Goebbles noted that if you told the same lie often enough people would believe it. And that the bigger the lie – the more likely that it would be believed.

    Romney chose to re-use some lies that were told about Gingrich in the past and not forcefully cleared up. Repeated common misinformation is effective but not at all truthful.

  • WillWong

    Romney as Nixon? We are screwed! Thanks a lot acat!

  • acat

    Nixon won the ’68 convention because Reagan and Rockefeller could not work together.

    Nobody had enough votes to win, but .. because of the split between the anti-war lib and the conservative, the moderate won.

    Or, to put it more bluntly, would you be happier with a Daniels/Rand Paul ticket or a Romney/Bolling* ticket?

    Mew

    * Lt. Gov, VA