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What the Heck is Wrong with Mitt Romney?

Sometimes – well, frankly, pretty often – Mitt Romney scares the crap out of me.

I’m already on record saying that I think he’d be a much better President than Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum, and nothing that has happened in the last month has changed that. Both Gingrich and Santorum are completely devoid of either the temperament or experience to handle the job of chief executive of the massive Federal government, a point which Newt Gingrich in particular seems determined to reinforce every single day between now and Super Tuesday (at least). Additionally, both Gingrich and Santorum have been C- candidates (at best) in terms of building a national campaign organization and raising money, both of which are necessary to have any chance to get the job of President, if they want to prove that I’m wrong about their experience and temperament. I am as close to 100% certain as I can be that both would lose in a landslide to Obama.

The problem is that I’m coming close to reaching that same conclusion about Mitt Romney. I don’t know what his problem is. I know there are some pretty serious questions about his ideological moorings, but that’s really less important (note that I did not say not important at all) in an executive than it is a legislator. That said, the number of people who have succesfully gained the nomination of either party without engaging in a substantial amount of flip-floppery is pretty small. The guy’s negatives, at least on paper, would seem to be clearly outweighed by his positives: he is clearly smart, clean cut, completely free of skeletons in his closet, able to self fund, and with a respectable dossier of executive experience. Furthermore, as I have explained before, he has spent the last 6 years ingratiating himself to conservative primary voters in a way that few previous candidates have (remember how McCain didn’t even bother to show up at CPAC in 2007 and in fact tried to set up a competing event down the hall?)

Beyond the “on paper” aspect of Mitt Romney, however, he appears to be a terrible political candidate. I mean, just awful. In debates, he can undo two solid hours of snappy comebacks and intelligent points with a single bizarre and frightening attempt at a natural laugh. (“Are you going to release twelve years of your taxes?” “Maybe! HA HA!”) This quality was absolutely laid bare in spades last night when Romney came out to speak to his supporters in Colorado. The Colorado result was still up in the air at that point but it was clear already that his campaign wasn’t going to have a good night.

Now, if there is one thing Mitt Romney should be used to by now, it is losing elections. By this point, he should have had enough practice at this that he could pull off at least a passable imitation of a leader rallying the troops. Instead, he wandered onto stage shellshocked and dazed, looking like a man who had physically taken a punch, and wandered aimlessly through almost the exact same speech he had given after his resounding victory in Florida. It was bad enough that I, as a Romney supporter, said to myself, “Holy cow, this guy is doomed.”

The problem Mitt Romney has is that he is totally and completely unable to generate loyalty in a broad enough base. He certainly has a small core of diehards, but the vast majority of his support comes from people like me who can only manage a resigned, “Well, I guess he’s the best we have. Sigh.” In modern politics, no amount of looking like a central casting President can compensate for an ability to make people feel, even through the lens of a television camera, that you are a guy who is with them and someone who they want to mount Pickett’s Charge with. Romney just can’t do it.

If you will permit me a digression here, caused no doubt by my longing for Spring Training, into a baseball analogy that I think is apt here (non-baseball fans may skip this paragraph as it will likely cause your eyes to glaze over). Bill James has noted that throughout history, Hall of Famers have accounted for just over 10% of all at-bats in the major leagues. However, only about 1% of all major leaguers make it to the Hall of Fame. Now, some of this phenomenon is explainable by what constitutes a Hall of Famer – Hall of Famers tend to be talented enough that they are not subject to platoon duty, and by definition they are the players who have longer and relatively injury-free careers. However, at least some of the effect is due to the fact that a large number of humans (especially the sort who rise to become high level baseball executives) are highly risk averse. Thus, long after Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux and Randy Johnson were elite (or even average, in some cases) major league pitchers, MLB general managers continued to shell out huge money at least on the theory that they were safer bets than any of the prospects available in the minor league farm systems. Thus also, the Los Angeles Angels shelled out an ungodly amount of money on a 10-year contract to the 32-year-old Albert Pujols despite already having a 26-year-old first baseman who as a rookie hit 29 home runs and had a .768 OPS. Note that this risk aversion is entirely a function of perception, rather than reality. Is it really true that a 46-year-old Randy Johnson is less of a risk (particularly given the propensity for injury that comes with playing professional sports in your mid-40s)  in your starting rotation than your top AAA prospect? Probably not, but due to perception some GM is going to give the geriatric Big Unit a shot. If you charted the future expected careers based on expected career paths charted by age and experience of Albert Pujols and Mark Trumbo, Trumbo’s next 10 years should be superior in the aggregate to Pujols’ – but that did not stop the Angles from spending a bazillion dollars on Pujols.

Which brings us back to Mitt Romney – there is no evidence at all that he is any less of a risk (at least electorally speaking) than any of the other candidates. In fact, the evidence seems to suggest that almost every time he actually faces the voters, he loses. His polling, several months out, always projects him to do much better than he actually does when the rubber hits the road. This is because, while picking people based on risk aversion may work to some extent in baseball, it is a recipe for failure in politics (see also Kerry, John). For the fans of Moneyball, Mitt Romney is the Billy Beane of political candidates. If he doesn’t show sometime soon that he can figure out how to actually connect with people, I’m going to lose any hope of winning this Presidential election. And I just don’t know, at this point in his career, how Mitt Romney can be taught new tricks.

Romney took a punch in the mouth yesterday, even if it was mostly a completely symbolic punch. This really is his last chance to get back up and prove to his supporters that he’s not as bad of a candidate as he has looked so far.

COMMENTS

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    I still say Romney, by default, will get the nomination. And I still plan to vote for him come Novermber. But it will be by far the least enthusiastic lever-pull of my life. BY FAR.

    • steeltube

      And so will almost every person who voted for Bush in 2004. And McCain in 2008, Or Newt, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Cain et al in the 2012 primary season. And that cover just about every RS reader does it not?

      And given that undisputed fact, what is the point of the self flagellation so many of you feel the need to partake in to get to that decision? If you feel you committed a political sin by voting for Romney than do a penance by contributing some money to a Congressional or Senatorial campaign you find particularly compelling.

      And what good does it do to continually beat down and denigrate the eventual nominee? He is not going to change his position(s) this late in the game to satisfy what you view as his shortcomings. In fact he may even moderate them more in the general election. No one has ever seen a “run to the middle in the primary and tact to the extreme in the general” campaign have they?

      It has long been (at least I believe it has) the view of RS that advocating a third party candidate in preference to a Republican nominee is a semi-treasonous position to take. And it should be viewed that way. But how is that different that the “I will not vote at all for (fill in the office) if candidate X is the nominee”?

      While neither the writer here or the commenter took that position-he fact they took pains to point out they would vote for Romney- I see all too much of this type of talk lately. On blogs. Websites. Radio.

      I respect debate. I respect your opinion. I respect your right to point out every Romney flaw-I have pointed out many myself. But at what point to we say enough is enough? Is it after the fall campaign begins? After the nomination? I suggest it should begin now.

      • trickamsterdam

        What you unoriginal thinks and Romney people don’t seem to get, that all the rest of us do, is that Romney is virtually unelectable.

        Let me use math to demostrate:

        You think it’s unavoidable that Romney is the nominee? InTrade has him at 79% + change.

        InTrade also has, as of today, Obama’s chances of reelection at 61%:.

        http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

        In other words, Obama has a 39% chance of losing (the General), Romney a 21% chance of losing (the R primaries)

        Since you claim Romney can’t lose, I think it’s safe to say that Obama (very nearly) can’t lose? Therefore, your point makes no sense. If there’s no point in voting hoping for a brokered convention, there’s very nearly no point in voting for Romney.

        -Romney is a liberal (by R standards)
        -Romney is unelectable
        -Romney is a detached doofus & has the character of vermin

        Your electability arguments fall hollow. We see through them.. We see through him.. We see through you too.

        Wait till Paul wins in VA, and the earth shifts under your feet, unoriginal thinker.

        Bottom line: Romney’s chances of being the nominee aren’t even half as good as Obama being re-elected. So, Han Solo: “Never tell me the odds”.

        If I go down, I’ll go down w/ Santorum or Newt, thank you. Because the odds of a brokered convention are now over two in ten and rising.

        But to answer your question…when does the looking for a candidate other than Romney stop? After the convention. Not before.

        BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

        • greyeagle

          I guess we would need to see just who the GOP establishment tries to shove down our throats AGAIN!

          • redcal

            …but he’s not learning how to fight for them. And fighting is a lot more important in the general.

          • snowshooze

            Wrong.

        • Adjoran

          It’s miniscule. Only an idiot thinks any market is predictive with that kind of volume.

          • trickamsterdam

            (I paraphrased your words)

            And what’s more scientific? This?

            “And what good does it do to continually beat down and denigrate the eventual nominee? He is not going to change his position(s) this late in the game to satisfy what you view as his shortcomings. In fact he may even moderate them more in the general election.” – steeltube

            The fact that he’s the nominee is set in stone, his positions are set in stone, unless he gets even more liberal, then they could maybe change.

            At least InTrade is semi-scientific…better than some Romney fan(s) on a message board.

            Here’s a prediction not from InTrade (they think he has almost an 80% chance of being the nominee, and I don’t). Romney loses in VA to Paul, and is out of the race in less than a month after that.

            I can never find my old posts on this site (I’m an idiot), but I’ll save this one on gmail. If it does happen, Romney fans, just claim a scientific solution…someone stuck a voodoo pin in a Ken Doll or something. ;)

          • olds88er

            /Virginia Governor McDonnell is supporting Romney. And the Governor is VERY popular in VA. And if Rubio won’t run for VP I am very sure Romney would pick McDonnel.

          • Juggernaut

            in other words scared money that becomes someone else’s. Intrade is indecisive at best.

        • krish

          Why choose a moderate (Romney’s own words) who said that he does not support Reagan policies! The HW Bush, Dole, McCain – the republican moderates/liberals got many chances to lose!

          Why not nominate a consevative (definetely compared to Mittens) even if we lose to Obama – we will feel good!

          Romney will lose in a landslide – would not be surprised if Obama picks up few Southern states! People in Georgia & Texas are not happy how Romney savaged Newt & Perry.

          • spelunker

            There are not enough conservatives to elect anybody without the Independents. They will not vote for Gingrich or Santorum, because neither has any experience outside of government. Santorum, in particular, is a big government guy. Newt is too unpredictable. The purpose of the Party is to select a winning candidate that represents its basic points if view. If that can’t be done in an orderly manner, Obama will be reelected.

          • joeydavis

            Pennsylvania is very representative of the nation as a whole. Sen. Santorum’s house district is decidedly MORE DEMOCRATIC than the nation as a whole. He won that district 4 times and won statewide there 2 out of 3 times.

            Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa are very similar electorates to Pennsylvania. All except Michigan are perhaps even more favorable to a conservative than Pennsylvania.

            Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia are decidedly more conservative than the nation as a whole, Santorum will win those back easily.

            Romney probably can’t win either North Carolina or Virginia. The key to carrying those states is success with conservative Dems in eastern NC and southwest VA. McCain didn’t inspire them in ’08 and Romney certainly won’t this year. They don’t like Obama at all, but unlike Republicans, who will vote Republican, those conservative Dems will just stay home.

            The electoral map is decidedly more favorable for Santorum than Romney. The national polling may not reflect this as large blue states like New York and California are decidedly more favorable of Romney even though he will still get crushed in both.

          • mercyvetsel

            Exactly right. Santorum simply knows how to talk to Reagan Democrats and as much as I like Romney, he doesn’t.

            I had previously written Santorum off as unable to win the primary and too stigmatized by the left to win in the general, but now it’s clear that Santorum can win the nomination and would probably even fare as well or better than Romney in the general election.

            As with Romney, I’ve always been a bit baffled at the list of charges that some conservatives seem to think disqualifies him.

            Santorum is NOT a big government conservative at least not when measured against the Republicans in the Senate and certainly not when compared to Pennsylvania Republicans in the Senate.

            The Republican Liberty Caucus actually rated him libertarian for his last six years or so in the Senate.

            -Mercy

          • olds88er

            Santorum speaks well and is very Presidential looking but is hard core anti abortion and anti-gay. There goes a lot of Independents.And he has never held executive office And backed Spector over Toomey.And lost his re-election to his senate seat by 17%.Come on!

        • chadosborne

          Nobody said that Romney can’t lose. And it’s foolish of you to say he can’t win.

          But we must face reality. As things stand, Romney will be the nominee.

          The anti-Romneys failed to consolidate behind a single candidate and now we have a situation in which all the delegates not going to Romney are getting split between Newt and Santorum. And it doesn’t look like either one of them will leave the race anytime soon.

          As an aggravating factor for them, they are now skipping races because they don’t have the resources to compete in every state. This ensures that Romney is the only candidate consistently picking up delegates, even if from time to time he is faced with an upset loss.

          Soon it will become mathematically impossible for either Newt or Santorum to amass the required 1,144 delegates. At that point, they will have no choice but to drop out (like it happened in 2008).

          There will be no brokered convention. As soon as it becomes impossible for Newt or Santorum to win 1,144 delegates in the remaining races, they will be disqualified from the race.

          Romney will win the nomination and will then proceed to defeat Barack Obama very easily. You might want to start thinking about which side you want to be on when all is said and done. Obama will not be your friend.

          • trickamsterdam

            You know him? RCP. Featured or reviewed on this very site a few days ago?

            Yeah, ‘fraid he did the calculations, and basically found out what I always sensed: Romney is a zero trying to be a one.

            There IS a path to a brokered convention…and he doesn’t even have Paul winning VA like I do (Romney will be carried on stage for his concession speech after that loss, in his dog Seamus’ old kennel…then he will be transported back to his hotel in it, on the top of a car).

            We’re going to do it a different way this time. This time we’re making up our own rules. To quote you…”you might want to start thinking about what side you want to be on when all this is said and done”.

            Me…I’m on the opposite side of wherever Mitt Romney is. Until and unless he’s the nominee…which I’m becoming more and more convinced is never going to happen. Kthxbye.

            PS – Are you what they call a “concern troll”? If so, what a lousy thing to be called…and an even more lousy thing to be. LOL.

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/02/09/path_to_a_brokered_gop_convention_emerges_113063.html

          • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

            “now we have a situation in which all the delegates not going to Romney are getting split between Newt and Santorum. And it doesn?t look like either one of them will leave the race anytime soon.”

            Santorum will get the bulk of conservative votes on Super Tuesday. Gingrich will get few enough that his candidacy will become irrelevant for the most part. He may stay in the race, but he will not be a significant factor in the final outcome.

            Gingrich was done in by his own character, which became painfully evident under stress in Florida. The flailing and hysterical attempts to capture attention late in the game turned off even voters that have supported his candidacy from the early days. Among “not Romney” conservatives, Rick Santorum is the Last Man Standing.

            And let me tell you, a lot of us are heaving a sigh of relief that the candidate we’ve settled on does not require of us the sort of defensive posture that Gingrich was going to require. Unlike Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum is an unambiguously good man.

            Given that Ron Paul is not a serious candidate, we now have a two man race.

        • goodgovernance

          The possibility of a brokered convention, that is. The key is all three major candidates stay in the race, and play to their regional advantage.

          Here’s a link from Real Clear Politics where a doubter sees the light:

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/02/09/path_to_a_brokered_gop_convention_emerges_113063.html

          No one should drop out at this point. Everyone has won a primary or caucus somewhere. And this year has proven to be full of surprises.

          I don’t know how much we can hope for it, but if Romney suffers a loss in Michigan or Arizona, the Establishment truly will panic. Keep fighting, folks! It’s truly amazing we’ve gotten this far but there’s plenty left to do before we can kick Mitt to the curb.

        • steeltube

          But I do like the theory behind “collective wisdom” forecasting and Intrade bettors were better predictors in 2008 than any poll (or poll of polls) aggregate. So lets talk InTrade…..

          While you want to embrace the 80% chance of a Romney nomination win (per InTrade) as an indicator of his weakness (using a strange sort of pretzel logic), I think most folks would feel its a sign of strength. And it backs up my characterization of his nomination as “eventual”. I have to wonder if you have any real skin in the game…?
          .
          But a review of my post shows I have not said what you CLAIM I said. I focused on his eventual (not “inevitable) nomination, And I never discussed electibility – one way or another.

          • trickamsterdam

            And I’m supposed to believe you got an “A” in English?

            “Eventual” and “inevitable” have the exact same definitions, phrased slightly differently:

            e?ven?tu?al
            adj.
            1. Occurring at an unspecified time in the future

            in?ev?i?ta?ble
            adj.
            1. Impossible to avoid or prevent.

            What you (and others) didn’t get about my InTrade example, is that everyone is saying that Romney’s the inevitable/eventual (see how either word doesn’t change the meaning of the sentence?) nominee…and if you’re going to think that, why even fight against Obama?

            His odds aren’t that much worse, and we intend to fight him.. Therefore, we will fight Romney too. Period. That was the point.

            BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

      • joeydavis

        That is the night we’ll take a good stiff drink, cry a few tears about 4 more years of Obama and realize we have what we have (another Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, John McCain, middle of the road, stand for nothing loser) . Until then we’re going to fight tooth and nail for a truly conservative candidate (Santorum).

        We’re going to make the case that genuine conservative values can resonate with voters.

        We’re going to make the case that staunch, lifelong, social conservative who has won 5 elections in a blue collar, Democratic state like Pennsylvania and is 3 for 3 in Republican elections in blue collar Democratic states to date certainly has a better chance at winning other blue collar Democratic states like Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa than a Wall St. CEO whose election win rate is atrocious.

        Let’s face it Romney has outspent Santorum 100 to 1 and has been running for President since 2007 and Santorum has beaten him 4 out of 8 with supposedly no money and no organization.

        If he can win 50% of the time with nothing, what’s going to happen when we put the power and money and organization of the party in his sails??

        Let’s face it, Romney can’t carpetbomb Obama like he can other Republicans. Obama has a campaign organization and a war chest. He’s going to have to have a real plan.

      • lizremington

        I was a Rick Perry supporter. When he dropped out, my enthusiasm for the primary nosedived. But something clicked for me in the last debate regarding Rick Santorum. I like the way he’s remained consistent but slowly gotten better and better in communicating his favorite themes, positions, and visions. I went back and viewed his speech after the Iowa caucus because I remember Charles Krauthammer praising it. It was incredible, especially the beginning when he talked about his wife and then his immigrant grandfather who worked in the coal mines and “dug freedom for me.” He’s about to take a lot of incoming and we’ll see how he does, but I just sent him a small donation and apparently so did many others as he’s raised over $1M since his heartland hat trick.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          Perry has a 20+ year record of real conservative accomplishment at the executive level in a huge state.

          Santorum is all hat and no cattle. His Congressional record is one of big spending, support of unions and expansion of government. He’s never had a “conservative” breath in his life until he figured out he had to talk like a conservative to make an impact. He’s all talk. Oh, and as for leadership and executive experience, his talk on that subject is total misrepresentation. He was nothing more than a back-bench Senator who did what he was told, when he was told.

          And, as for the $1M, a fool and his money are soon parted.

          • joeydavis

            Rick Santorum was serving in Reagan’s congress when Rick Perry was running as a Democrat in Texas!

            It’s ok to be a zealot, just try not to be stupid in the process. Santorum has been serving as a conservative Republican elected from a blue state longer than Rick Perry has been a Republican.

            PS I like Rick Perry. I would have voted for Rick Perry but I would never in a million years question Rick Santorum’s conservative credentials. They’re unimpeachable, especially when compared to Mitt Romney.

    • clintonformccain

      was probably my least enthusiastic Presidential vote ever.

      • demsaresatanic

        Romney is a phoney.

        • jack0001

          ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO!

    • jack0001

      i dont care how happy you are.
      the thought of obozo having another 4 years is motivation enought for me to happily walk into my voting preceinct and spin my electronic vote for Romney or whoever it ends up being.
      there is not enough of a difference between romney, gingrich, or santorium to make me frett over who it is going to be.
      as long as there last name is not obozo, i am voting for them.

    • mikelindell2

      You are humiliating yourself. The one-term gov of a small northeastern state is more experienced than the former speaker of the house and one of the most prominent conservatives alive??? HA HA HA

      • chadosborne

        Setting the legislative agenda and voting yes or no has nothing to do with being the head of the executive branch.

        Newt was the speaker for a few years and got kicked out of the house. Most of his former colleagues have endorsed Romney. That should tell you something, and if it doesn’t you just might go down with that sinking ship.

        • acat

          Ignoring that discussion of Gingrich in a thread about Romney is a close approximation of a threadjack….

          Mew

        • colleenlass

          Pretty much all you write is …RIGHT ON.
          Keep posting please.
          It is refreshing to read comments from someone who is not so biased that they can not even think or see straight.
          Stay who you are.

        • Juggernaut

          for his failed bid for potus = a failure in 2012. At least Chris Christie was man enough to say no with his 2 years in office. Its well known governors don’t do much when the run campaigns…..you can’t run a state and campaign, you have to rely on the Lt. governor.

          Most Romney endorsements are from nobodies and rinos. Not much to talk about there. You silly shills simply think any story will sell when we know Romney’s vetting is far from over and we are going to shred him.

          • olds88er

            Well, lets look at these nobodies: Gov. for two terms of the largest state in the Union Pete Wilson; Governor and former New Jersey Attorney General Chris Christie; Governor and former Attorney General of Virginia Bob McDonnel;Attorney General of Florida Pam Bondi:Governor John Kasich of Ohio; and many more, but I’m tired of pecking!

          • Juggernaut

            and I shall continue because Christie isn’t a credible source since he felt he wasn’t up to the job of potus.

            Pam Bondi is a joke, she wants Top Down state run fed administered RomneyCare which is right wing socialism. McDonnel is good man, but clearly your running out of steam, seems pointless to remind you but I shall. Romney has very few prominent congressmen and that’s a telling sign.

      • dennis1111

        Well, Newt has made it clear that he will operate within the limits of popular support to accomplish his goal of actually governing America. He made it clear that he escwews politicians who do what their political consultants advise instead of following their principles. He has said that the first impediment to real governing is reliance on polls and advisors who follow polls instead of principle.

        Newt plans ahead. He intends to do very well in Texas and mostly win the south. He is relying on his record and his stand on the issues-which are Right. He does not rely on money, political hacks or the establishment. That makes him my first choice among all possible candidates. We need a leader who will fight to win on our issues. We don’t need a politician who will do what the poll readers advise in order to secure reelection. Newt has written this in several books. Newt has been consistent in his plan and his activities since RR. and the contract with America. Newt actually has an excellent record of conservative achievements-including the most important one-he balanced the budget. Best, dlc

    • colleenlass

      I would say you are right.
      I differ though that Romney will be by ‘default’.
      Most Tea Party sites…RedState readers included, has gone from one candidate to another.
      Shall I go down the line?
      The only one left standing is Santorum….he will become the great last hope…as you have no other choice.

      People were really scarring the bottom when Newt became first and foremost…HE WAS/IS EVERYTHING ALL WERE AGAINST!

      Rick Santorum has not changed since the first debate..neither did Newt. You threw out the best one..Rick Perry, almost immediately.
      I feel Rick S sweep as people saying NO to Newt…isn’t that quite obvious?
      This is a right of center country.
      NOT FAR RIGHT.

      In order to pick up the states needed to beat Obama… a right of center candidate is Mitt Romney.

      If we lose this election…which we very well might, if that is not understood, please start reading about and getting all the info about his headquarters in Chicago.
      It is massive.
      I made a youtube last week…do you know what advertisement popped up on it? TO VOTE FOR OBAMA!
      After working on it for hours…I deleted it.
      The point being…they have control of the Internet. They have for some time.
      So get off the EGO train AND your anti establishment train…and lets get this man out of the White House!
      Most of you have FLIP FLOPPED, more than Romney ever has!

      • Juggernaut

        and you boys can’t stand the fact we don’t trust Romney nor do we think he’s electable any more than Dole or McCain. Learn what conservatism is before demanding we cave for a moderate progressive who sides for abortion, against gun right while also thinking his right wing socialism is a free market solution.

      • joeydavis

        For me there were always 3 acceptable candidates. First it was Pawlenty, Gingrich and Santorum. I thought Pawlenty had a real shot. He had the clearest path, which is through the rust belt. But then he couldn’t handle Michele Bachman and poof he was gone.

        Replaced on my acceptable list with Rick Perry. Perry was my favorite. I liked the Texas sized bankroll. But he crashed on takeoff completely on his own.

        That left two, Gingrich and Santorum. I measured those two carefully. I liked Gingrich’s name recognition and his willingness to confront Romney. But in reading poll data and knowing his background baggage, I am convinced Newt Gingrich can not win the election.

        The only states he can flip are North Carolina, Virginia and Indiana. That’s not enough.

        That left one: Rick Santorum.

        And in all the electability talk when I compare Santorum and Romney, I’m thoroughly convinced Santorum has the BEST chance of winning, which is what we all want.

        Seriously compare the candidates and forget about national polling…

        Find the road to 270.

        Santorum’s road is NC VA IN PA OH WI MN IA and MI or FL. All those states are clearly in his strike zone. They have republicans and not independents but conservative Democrats favorable to his social politics.

        Romney’s road is FL MI IN OH CO NV NM NH and then perhaps MA NJ and maybe ME. That is assuming he holds MO and GA, which Santorum definitely will. I don’t see Romney with any sort of constituency or any type of base capable of pushing.

    • repubnut

      I am a DIE-HARD Republican but I will not vote for Mitt–Obama is as good as Mitt will be !!! Wake up America,,MITT—, WILL NOT BEAT Obama !!

      • Repair_Man_Jack

        Mitt would get my vote. He is bad; but Obama, and those w/ whom he staffs the courts and regulatory agencies are a veritable locust plague.

      • Christine

        but this statement is insane.

        Mitt may be a RINO and a flip-flopper, but he isn’t Obama. Mitt at least has a slight interest in the right side of politics, even if it’s Big Government republicanism. Obama wants socialism and will do everything in his power to push us as close as possible to it before he leaves the White House.

        As much as I’d love a real conservative…given a choice I would rather fight Mitt tooth and nail for 4 years than Obama. At least with Mitt we have a shot at him maybe giving a [hoot] what we think.

        Quit this, please. Go find a solid conversative running for Congress and fight your heart out for them…then vote for whatever RINO we’re going to nominate with your nose held. If we have a conservative Congress, there will be some balance to the Romney Administration.

        • cbartlett

          Mitt is NOT my first choice either, but with Obama we are guaranteed super liberal Supreme Court justice appointments for LIFE. At least we might get some semblance of a conservative with Mitt. Even though he is the author of Romneycare AND has “said” that he will repeal Obamacare, I have my doubts that he would actually push for it. At the same time, I doubt that even he has the stones to veto repeal legislation if we manage to get it passed in Congress. That would be political suicide. These are the two very, very important reasons that we cannot allow Obama to have another very unrestrained 4 years no matter how much we have to hold our nose to pull the lever.

    • stardustsara

      i am voting for romney with enthusiasm. just because he is not touchy/feely, doesn’t have anything to do with his qualification for president. i think the electorate and conservative media are beating his brains out for no reason at all, unless it is because of his success. his speech in colorado was very moving, especially about his father’s rise from nothing to be so successful. joe scarborough the commentator on mornin’ joe, said he thought it was the best speech romney ever made. i don’t know what this guy leon wants from romney. he is a businessman and leader, not a politician, so you can’t expect him to be a politician like grinchrich and santorum.

      • joeydavis

        The man has been chronically running for office since the early 90s.

        Mitt Romney most certainly is a politician. but while Santorum and Gingrich have been successful politicians, Romney has been a complete failure.

        Both Santorum and Romney ran for senate in 1994 against Democratic incumbents in a decidedly Democratic state. Santorum ran as a conservative on a conservative platform and WON. Romney ran as a moderate on a liberal platform and LOST.

        Had Romney won, he would be running on his political record.

    • dennis1111

      We conservatives will vote for the candidate who is not Obama.
      That doesn’t mean we will nominate a candidate who is weak on our vital issues. The Press hype and negative campaigning used by Mitt clearly show he is not running on the issues. The Conservative movement is motivated by the issues. On the issues Mitt is weak-he has $. But his $ is just what Obama will use against him. We want this cycle to be about the issues.
      It is perfectly wise to support the candidate of your choice in the Primary. That is what the Primary is all about. I support Newt because he is a proven conservative who can balance the budget and will fight to do it. Yes, he lost that battle last time. But, this is a different time and our deficit spending is bringing down the house. We need a conservative fighter who will pursue the Right issues. Newt is Right on the issues. Mitt is not.

      If Mitt wins the primary I will of course support him. I hope for Newt or even Rick. If we don’t nominate a conservative this time we may find too much water over the dam has barred our way to the future.
      This is a conservative venue. Lets be clear, we support conservatives. Mitt is not that. dlc

    • lucci

      Dear Leon & ERICK:

      We need to start a “Draft Senator Marc Rubio for President” movement. Now. He’s a winner. He can articulate and preside over a resurrected Republic. Otherwise, it’s four more years of Obama, and we as the hope of the world will be gone. Give it some thought. For our children and grandchildren. Please.

      • joeydavis

        Rubio is about as qualified as Obama was 4 years ago. Let’s not travel that path again.

      • olds88er

        Couldn’t agree more. This time or next, he will be our first Cuban American President.

  • BillC

    “Additionally, both Gingrich and Santorum have been C- candidates (at best) in terms of building a national campaign organization and raising money, both of which are necessary to have any chance to get the job of President…”

    Money can buy a lot of negative ads but it can’t buy coherence from a candidate with no moral center. Mitt Romney has destroyed Newt and himself.

    • Leon H. Wolf

      I’m just not engaging any of these comments in this post.

      • Paul_Zummo

        Makes sense. This is what Red State has become.

        • Repair_Man_Jack

          Then you can offer a logical objection. Also, it helps to understand what the author writes before you engage in reading his mind….

        • Leon H. Wolf

          pace George Bernard Shaw.

      • BillC

        that Romney has some kind of moral/mental deficiency?

        That I don’t understand. It is clear that Romney is a great candidate if you just look at his resume. He is also well disciplined and can stay on message most of the time. But when he is out of his element he get that deer in the headlights look on his face. Why?

        I think it could be several things. He could be a sociopath who is adept at concealing his lack of empathy. He could have Asperger’s syndrome and have problems reading others emotions and responding to them.. There are a lot of highly intelligent people who have trouble relating emotionally to average people.

        This doesn’t make Romney evil, just lacking.

      • bluerose75

        Leon you are nothing special and your opinion equals just yourself. So what! Romney is not an A, B, C or D candidate he is an F. He is a failure in convincing conservatives he is worth his weight in gold, he has failed in closing the deal, he failed in 2008, he has been running for President since 2007 and he continues to fail, he has no energy and fails to excite, he fails to distinguish himself from Obama, in fact his Romneycare everyday mirrors Obamacare in every single way, he fails to build a base, he fails to build character and his fails in trying to compare himself to Reagan.

        So go save your usual lecture about Newt and Rick for someone who cares. You have become a broken dull record. Mitt deserves nothing but the door. Rick certainly looks more Presidential all the time and Romney less. Rick actually can distinguish himself from Obama and guess what buddy he is raising more and more money. And your organization BS argument. Mitt has been organizing since birth and he had his butt kicked in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri. And he did compete in Colorado and Minnesota.

        He is nothing but a charlatan. He ran the nastiest campaign in Florida and it has been well recorded. You could have cares less about the many misrepresentations and lies Mitt told about Newt as long as he was your boy!! Your boy has no experience governing conservatively. The more I look at Mitt the more I dislike him. And guess what he is nose diving in national polls and you know why? Because the more people see him and hear him they do not like him!

        Sorry the nomination will go on and the more it does and this phony loses the better for the country and the party. He is a joke and has no chance of beating Obama.

        Rick continues to maintain his character and he is building and Newt is a good man that can articulate ideas. Mitt is a tin suit that without his millions would be laughed at because he inspires no one and the numbers prove it!

        • Leon H. Wolf

          For me to put up with nonsense like this. See ya.

          • jakeofalltrades

            But then, so has mine ;) .

          • Leon H. Wolf

            You have to really work at it these days.

            I expect that a search will reveal bluerose75 up there to be a retread and we’ll have to start blackholing IPs. Just a hunch, but I’m usually right.

          • indieinvirginnie

            But a client of mine has patented technology that sees through the rotations. Interesting stuff.

          • Repair_Man_Jack

            Counting to 20 trillion (or whatever) is hard even for digital machines.

        • bethrorie

          ?Well, I guess he?s the best we have. Sigh.?

          NO WAY.

          Romney is not the best of anything. Even if he were to finally give in to his natural inclinations and admit to being a Democrat, he wouldn’t even be the best of THEM! (He wouldn’t be the worst of the Democrats, either, but that’s neither here nor there.)

          Leon H. Wolf (who is wearied out with passionate conservatives, or is perhaps suffering from hypoxia, since his nose is being held shut?) wants me to be forced to choose between 2 Democrats. That’s like telling me I can choose to be dismembered before I’m murdered or after I’m murdered.

          My choice is not to lie down quietly: I’m going to at least be a moving target!

        • olds88er

          A serial adulterer? Endorsed by a serial sex harasser? Are you sober?

          • dennis1111

            As for Newt I suspect he was contrite and is now circumspect. His current wife is obviously not complaining and I don’t hear any carping from on high except the above judgement.

            As for Herman: It is disgusting that you should judge him when there has been no proof at all-just a she said he said-which is zero.

            Judging by your judgement I surmise you are not even a Christiian so I’m interested. Just what standards do YOU use to judge the presumed innocent?

            You must be for someone else. Dare I hazard a guess that that is Paul?

    • WY_Cowboy

      Rick Santorum has litterally come from nowhere. I don’t think it’s entirely fair to equate the way Newt has run his campaign with the campaign Sontorum has run. Santorum has been focused, issue oriented, and has humanized himself to a great degree. Also, Santorum has been consistent in his passionate defense of conservatism and has launched attacks on the other candidates from a conservative angle. Santorum has run a far better campaign than Newt and, frankly, Mitt. Santorum’s indictment of Romneycare is solid and effective. In the end, I fully disagree if you intended to say Santorum doesn’t have the temperment to be president.

      Before we cast final judgement on Santorum, I would like to see how well he does in Michigan. If he can manage a win in Michigan, I think it becomes much more plausible that Santorum can win the nomination. I do worry if he can beat Obama, but, like you, I worry if Mitt can beat Obama as well. As a matter of fact, given his performance nationally since Florida, I’m almost certain Romney would have a tougher road to hoe because he is unable to articulate a reason to vote for him. At least Santorum can do that. All Romney is really good at is attacking other candidates.

      • jack0001

        santorium and gingrich basically have anmesity plans. romney has e-verify which i like, and living in TX, i believe that once all the free stuff including jobs are taken away the illegals they WILL leave. i would.

        all of the big three have been for heath care mandates. heck, newt wants us to post a bond.

        none are all that strong on cap and trade. heck, newt actually sat on the couch with nancy mussolini in support of al gore, are you kidding me..

        santorium was a big pork barrel spender.

        the idea that we have a true conservative in the running, outside of libertarian, ron paul is laughable.

        that being said, i dont care at this point, i am voting for whomever the republiCON candidate is.

        i will do it with vigor and enthusiasm!

        ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO ABO!

      • olds88er

        Don’t you people realize that Obama has a big problem with some of his voters? Specially alt of the college kids that voted for him and now find themselves at OWS encampments, degreed, big student loan debt, and no jobs. Why do you think Obama changed his mind and is now in favor of super PACS?Remember how they bragged they would raise a billion dollar campaign kitty? Obviously the millions have not been coming in.

    • papabear

      August evenings
      Bring solemn warnings
      To remember to kiss the ones you love goodnight

      You never know what temporal days may bring
      Laugh, love, live free and sing
      When life is in discord
      Praise ye the lord

      Who’s gonna call on Sunday morning?
      Who’s gonna drive you home?
      I just want one more chance
      To put my arms in fragile hands

      I thought you said forever
      Over and over
      The sleepless night becomes bitter oblivion

      (My apologies to Amberlin – Although the lyrics are a great description of Campaign ’12, the song does not deserve the taint of this comparison)

    • colleenlass

      You really are not going to put Newt into the moral center now are you?
      Lets step away from his love life, because you all think that was perfectly fine.
      Do you have any idea what is going to come out about Freddie Mac?
      Your still believing he was paid that money to be a historian????

      Newt will not disclose his play in the company that really started to bring this country into a recession.
      WHY?
      I do know one thing….the DNC would expose his part if he were to be the nominee.
      Also…no problem at all with his backing the Global warming issue either..is there?

      All this really brings back how Sharon got chosen to go up against Harry. Same kind of thinking. I could not believe it.

      Mitt..no moral center? Really? I think you had better look into his life a bit deeper. You have things backwards.

      Romney did not destroy Newt…Newt destroyed Newt.

    • Juggernaut

      of Romney. Sure the 3 of them have lousy campaign organizations, I include Romney too because he’s desperate and hellbent on violating the gentleman’s rule aka Reagan’s rule. So he may have money but his campaign has no ideals, no soul nor respect from the 75% who want someone else.

      Sure Romney has destroyed himself and Newt and is now attacking Santorum because scared money knows no better. All the more reason to choose the more conservative of candidates. McCain had less than 2 million when Romney dropped out and he came close to winning against gop negatives that dems and media used to sell Obama.

      This time Obama has a track record he can’t run on and Romney can’t run on his record so both men seek platitudes and short narratives while avoiding the facts. That’s a race best suited for a more conservative candidate. All that person needs is support and money from conservatives seeking anyone but Romney.

      • olds88er

        Let’s understand something:” Thou shall not speak ill of a fellow Republican” was coined by the California head of the Republican Party, Gaylord Parkinson, M.D., a San Diego obstetrician and a personal friend of mine. Reagan used it but did not originate it.

        • Juggernaut

          due to the fact Reagan changed the party for the better. Search my responses you’ll see I mentioned Parkinson before. To bad Romney doesn’t care. But he didn’t want to go back to the Reagan Bush era and we don’t want the United States of Massachusetts. Parkinson sounds like a wise man. He’s mentioned on Wikipedia and other sites.

  • WA_Cowboy

    Mitt is a terrible candidate.

    Whether he’s the best of the worst, I’m not ready to say (and I have until the WA caucuses in March to decide) but your reasoning has logic.

    I always come back to this point: Whoever in the GOP bigwigs decided that this guy would be a good candidate for president ought to never have a job in politics again. ought to be fired. on. the. spot. and never to be seen again.

    There has to be a better way to deciding our candidate than the current system. Perhaps a way to thin out the field to a top 3-4 candidates a month before the primaries actually start. MAYBE if GOP voters could pick their top three – four candidates, we’d wind up with a better top three than the current crop. and MAYBE if there were a total of 8-10 primary/caucus dates among all 50 states we wouldn’t have 1-2 states deciding how to thin the field.

    All we can do at this point is pray that Obama suck even worse than he has so that people will vote for Romney/Newt/Santorm simply because they are “Not Obama”

    • greeneyeshade

      It’s the same people that gave us Ford, Dole, McCain and advised George 41 to violate “read my lips”. They are the undead masters of mediocrity that can’t be fired-every last one of them is named Jason.

    • deVere

      But he wouldn’t run. Neither would Daniels.

      As the French diplomat and playwrite Jean Goradoux once noted “The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you’ve got it made”. Mitt is just not able to fake being a sincere conservative. And when he says the wrong thing, his instinct is to make amends by raising the minimum wage. He’s running in the wrong party.

      Santorum may sometimes be mistaken, but doesn’t have the problem of learning to fake sincerity. Attacks on his earmarks are silly. But Democratic attacks on his extreme abortion stance may eventually work. A few days ago Rassmussen had him 1 point ahead of Obama. I think he has a real chance to win in November, and will at least rally his social conservative faithful.

  • John_C

    I believe the outcome for the country, and for the republican part, is doomed no matter which of the 4 remaining candidates are left standing. My only hope is we capture the Senate and increase the House such that we have veto proof majorities.

    I fear that we will indeed see four more years of Obama due to the incompetence of our party.

    • naraht

      As far as I can tell, looking at the party division in the Senate for each congress (http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm), no president has *ever* had less than 1/3 of the Senate be of his own party. There have been times when the Senate was more than 2/3 of a single party (like after the 1872 election for the Republicans or after the 1938 election for the Dems) but the President was of that party..

      In addition, for it happen after the 2012 elections, the Republicans need to take 20 of the 23 seats up for election that currently have a Democrat in them.. As long as the Democrats can hold say Maryland, New York, Rhode Island and the Socialist in Vermont, there won’t be enough Republicans in the Senate to override.

      • vaaztx

        If we lose the White House we aren’t making headway in the Senate without a perfect group of candidates who can win in some very liberal places. And if Romney is the best we can do for Prez, I fear we may be losing in places we have no business losing in.

        • naraht

          I could see in a close presidential election, the Republicans picking up Nebraska and North Dakota both of which are Democratic retirements in states that are Redder than average. And *maybe* Scott Brown holds on in Massachusetts.

    • vaaztx

      We’ll be lucky if the Dems retain the White House, but don’t recapture the House, don’t make a run at a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and don’t recapture any of the state legislatures that we regained in 2010. I fear a 1964-style disaster all the way down the ticket.

      • naraht

        Of the 33 seats up for election, only 10 are held by Republicans (flip side of the 2006 disaster). The Democrats need to take 7 to get from 53 to 60. I think *maybe* a maximum of 6 could flip in a 1964 scenario: Arizona, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada and Texas. I just can’t see the Republicans losing Mississippi, Tennessee, Utah or Wyoming.

    • Xasteius

      Frankly the dung will hit the fans as far as the economy is concerned. Better that someone we can;t stand gets the blame and then we can get someone good into office.

      • http://MichaelHarrington.org creinstein

        FDR had Wilson succeed him and though he served 8 years he only was elected to the Presidency once.

        Carter resulted in Ford.

        After Wilson came Eisenhower (though not as good as Kennedy who followed) and after Ford came Reagan.

        Seems to be a pattern of hard left, not so hard left, and Conservstive right following

        • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

          Pretty sure you meant Truman.

          Ford resulted in Carter, not the other way round.

          And patterns like you’re positing are imaginary. Circumstances change from season to season.

          • http://MichaelHarrington.org creinstein

            Lesson learned

  • greeneyeshade

    By people engaging in political analysis with (especially with an expressed preference to him) remind me of post mortem discussions by engineers and technicians discussing some new product that was supposedly was the best engineered thing in its category but refuses to gain a following in the market.

    Therein lies the problem. Mitt is over-engineered-and tuth be told actually designed for the wrong purpose. He’s to stiff and too corporate. He acts like he’s running for CFO, rather than president. Hence, he sought to destro Newt the way one would destroy a corporate rival, instead of doing it in a way that would allow them to stand together at the nomination. He reminds many of us, I think, the bureaurcrats and corporate executives that go to all the right schools, but seem like soul-less robots, who do everything but appear detached from human feeling.

    Sure, there are economic problems, but Mitt’s not going to be the economist general. Newt rose because people thought he might just issue an executive order on his first day annulling all of Obama’s EOs that he could, that he realized that was required to deal with the Obama legacy was a political hazmat team, not a manager with the perfect executive disposition.

    (Personally, I’m waiting for the candidate who realizes that the hundreds of times that Obamacare says “the sectretary shall issue regulations” is a huge opportunity to implode it. I’d also like to hear that If Obama doesn’t have to support DOMA, why should his successor support Obamacare?)

    At some point, you accept that politics, like marketing and industrial design has intangible aspects to it. Sometimes it is the best engineered producy, supported by a big advertising budget and it just never seems to takeoff.

    Romney has some time to prove otherwise, but not much. Right now, his best quality is that he’s not Obama and that’s the best (and only) reason to support him.

    • renl57

      Some columnist (forgot his name) compared Romney’s troubles to that old joke about a company trying and failing to sell its dog food product:

      The CEO calls a meeting to find out why their dog food isn’t selling. He says:

      “I don’t understand it. We’ve got a great factory to produce our dog food efficiently. We’ve got a great Marketing Department to get our brand of dog food into all the stores. And we’ve got a great Advertising Department to advertise our brand of dog food to all the consumers. So WHY isn’t our dog food selling???”

      One of his subordinates replies,

      “Because the dogs don’t like it.”

      • naraht

        N/T

      • cbartlett

        Saw another one yesterday (don’t remember who said it…):
        Mitt Romney has been named Employee of the Month by the management of a restaurant that’s going out of business.

        No matter what —– ABO – Anybody But Obama

  • trickamsterdam

    On your other Romney threads.

    I was originally a Perry supporter, then Cain, then Newt. But I always felt I had Romney in my back pocket. That if one of the others got it together, they’d be the most electable AND conservative…but that Romney was electable, and at least cared enough about the base to flatter.

    After SC I realized he had a glass jaw.

    Newt was outspent and the whining about the attacks on capitalism from the conservative MSM (Lord they had a case of the vapors) was overwhelming….I started to suspect Romney’d be cut to pieces in the General…when Obama’d outspend him, and the liberal MSM (sort of a redundant term) would agree w/ everything that was said in the paid ads.

    Then FL came, and I began to despise Romney. The claims that Newt was anti-Reagan were the last straw. Something snapped. For the man who said “I was an independent in the 80s, not part of that whole Reagan/Bush” to go there…I just lost all respect for him..

    Very difficult to support a President who you don’t respect. It’s probably because POTUS is partially a military position.

    And I obviously wasn’t the only one…as Romney’s team was congratulating itself for the Newt tack-down, his negatives sky-rocketed (now higher than Obama’s in most polls) and 2/3 of voters said the more they find out about him , the less they like him.

    Sure you can make the intellectual decision to vote for him….even not having to look at Eric Holder’s face for another four years makes him better…but for example, I won’t send him a nickel and I usually give at least a few hundred.

    Simply put: Romney is gross and creepy.

    InTrade has Obama’s reelection chances at 57% and they assume a Romney nomination…since every R candidate’s floor of support is about 40% ,Romney is barely more electable. And one thing Santorum and Newt have over him is you can expect very conservative SC Justices…Romney says he’ll do that, but I know he was lying when he said it because his mouth was moving and his eyes were blinking.

    He doesn’t have the stomach for a fight on SC Justices.

    We need a new candidate to enter the Race…you only need to win a plurality in three states to get on the ballot at the convention. So it wouldn’t be someone who hadn’t faced the voters, as some of you anti-brokered convention people are concerned about.

    The base accepting their fate w/ this near-sure loser is like going down w/ the ship and not even trying to man the lifeboats. Forget about that. Speaking of which, Romney is like the Titanic…a sinking “unsinkable ship”.

    Witness history w/ us as we change the “inevitable”.

    BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

  • snowshooze

    Hey, the GOP establishment loves it!
    Hey, we can keep all the money and SPEND it on out Feifdom!!!
    Yeah, the GOP establishment is a self serving bureaucracy. More offices, a better retirement, more staff… a way of life for those within it.
    Do they consider self funding important?
    More important that anything else in the world.
    And Romney, he might be a prettty good Manager… I do not think so…
    But he doesn’t have an idea one. Not one.
    Oh, he can generate several hundred pages of budget documents that pretty much would kill a normal small accounting agency to even think they could survive reading it…
    And, with his record, he has been on every side of every issue that has ever been brought to his attention by the lowly masses.
    If you want a guaranteed sellout… you have arrived at your ideal selection. Guaranteed.
    If he wins, and he starts right out by blowing out on Obamneycare… I will be at the front of the ” I told ya so…” line.
    He is not a Leader. In a corporate structure, yeah… go make money for the Stockholders. We don’t care how.
    He was a hired Employee by the Stock Holders.
    Hired help and nothing more.

    He had a fairly clear mission. And a multitude of methods to do it.
    He did just that.
    But a mission statement for a Presidency of the United States of America?
    He can’t even imagine one.
    Many Presidents have been nothing more than Employees living in Public Housing. I think Mitt is slightly above that, he wants the power and prestiege and so far as I can tell, he is doing a lousy job of trying to get it.
    I consider him a rich yet failed Politician from the People’s Republic of Massachusetts who profited substantially from raiding the federal Government’s coffers.
    So… if you call that self-funding… great.
    But the man has no vision, no leadership skills, someone even ventured that he was a windsock.
    I couldn’t agree more.
    A nice guy? No. But he seems nice. And he wears nice checked shirts. I bet he even rolls the sleeves up sometimes.
    So, there’s my rant.

    • johnnyd

      I just watch this train wreck unfold in slow motion, and now understand why we are where we are.

      • olds88er

        Obamacare is nation-wide. Romneycare is confined to Mass. only. Just why do you call them the same? Obamacre hopefully will be thrown in the trash By the Supremes in the Spring and will NOT be a factor in the election.

    • davesinsanantonio

      nt

      • snowshooze

        Where every day is another picnic.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Barring a major Romney scandal in the next few months, it aint gonna happen.

    • LibertarianHawk

      But hope springs eternal! ;)

      I think Romney will end up eking out the nomination. But I’d be surprised (pleasantly!) if he actually ends up winning the general election.

      He’s had plenty of time — over two cycles — to catch fire with the electorate. And he’s failed to do so.

      • davesinsanantonio

        n/t

      • olds88er

        Do you guys remember when we all said, “Don’t worry, Obama can’t win” Well, many of you were wrong then and wrong now.

    • andystone

      Heck, even a dead guy of good character is preferable to the current crop.

      • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com;http://news.unifiedpatriots.com/ Beaglescout

        if we’re gonna draft a dead guy let’s get the best president of the past 100 years back in.

        • andystone

          22nd Amendment, since his first time was a bit shorter than two years.Yes, Coolidge/Pickett would be a pretty balanced ticket. ;)

      • snowshooze

        A bridge too far.

  • LibertarianHawk

    Mitt Romney has run for president twice now. And, both times, it’s seemed abundantly clear that his appeal is excruciatingly limited.

    Talk of a “Romney ceiling” may be cliched by now. But only because there’s truth to it.

    The best hope the GOP has right now is for somebody other than the 4 currently running somehow managing to swoop in and get the nomination. But I think the chances of that happening are very remote.

    What seems most likely to happen is that Romney will limp across the finish line for the nomination, and then go on to lose to Obama.

    I agree, BTW, that he could make for a fine president. The problem is that he’s a poor candidate — and he’s continuing to prove that with each passing day.

    • greyeagle

      The GOP establishment is the ones trying to force Romney down our throats, because it is his “turn”. That is how they think. We do NOT have a decent candidate anymore. The debates were a joke. I was excited while Perry was in the race. He could have done the job. He has far more experience in this arena than anyone else. Now I will just be glad when it is over.

    • krish

      Is this some kind of libertarian joke?

      You call yourself a liberatarian – just today it came out Romney healthcare plan forced morning after pill on catholic hospitals

      • colleenlass

        Wrong.
        Romney vetoed anything that came across his desk that had anything to do with religious rights.
        Some things were in place when he became Gov.
        Please look up his record…it is all out there.

        LET US TELL THE TRUTH ON THESE BLOGS.
        The scary part being..instead of people researching for themselves, they actually believe things written on here.
        Not aiming this completely on you Krish…it is for all on here that write things that are not correct..again and again and again.

  • sulmak

    He has 4 years as a governor, if that is a it takes to sway you why not vote for Obama, he’ll have 4 years experience as president by his second term.

    There is more to a president than experience screwing things up.

    • olds88er

      Are you drunk? His THREE years in office has been a disaster for our crountry

      • sulmak

        Massachusetts was 47th in job creation. His record of experience wasn’t very good either, it also wasn’t the worst, just 4th from worst.

  • acat

    Let me briefly digress and bring up Romney’s involvement in 2010 again. I can see, on reflection and education, that Romney helped fund quite a few candidates, and stumped for several more.

    The error, on my part, was expecting Romney’s candidate support to resemble that of other off-year cheerleaders… Palin for example. (Picking her because she was very active in 2010, and there’s some overlap in candidates supported by both Romney and Palin. Romney, though, is not a leader, so .. despite the scope of his efforts, it all floated beneath my radar.

    I bring this up because .. it’s about leadership. Romney may be a good decision-maker, he may attract good personnel* … but he just doesn’t have “the X factor”… and it’s going to be a problem

    Mew

    * although hanging around with Norm “what fight?” Coleman and “orange” Charlie Crist’s staff and, of course, Kjellander is not exactly sterling references…

    • snowshooze

      Romney has been playing all the correct cards so far as supporting various candidates, rubbing the right elbows, being the establishment favorite with a 2nd generation politicol machine handed down by Daddy, having years of support and network building behind him.. a gob of dough…
      But not a drop of common sense or judgement.
      No charisma whatever.
      Romney doesn’t have any people skills whatever.
      No plan.
      His best buddy is a corporation.
      His dog isn’t allowed in the car. Poops on the roof.
      ” Genuine Plastic” comes to mind.

  • Vaughn Harold

    We really needed someone this election that would cut the size and scope of the office of POTUS and Congress, and we ended up with no one.

    • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

      You’ll get significant reductions in the reach of government from either Santorum or Gingrich.

    • olds88er

      Romney promised to fire all of the czars in his first day in office.And exempt ALL of the states from Obamacare. A President can not repeal
      a Congressional act.

  • mustango

    When it comes right down to it, I’m less worried about President Romney deciding to leave ObamaCare untouched, than I am Candidate Romney making a complete mockery of the “electability” mantra we hear from so many of his followers.

    Erick made a golden point in his thrashing of Michael Medved earlier today. The different between Romney ’08 and Romney ’12 is that Romney ’12 has picked up McCain’s playbook and is running with it, seemingly oblivious to how that worked out in the end last time. All that seems to be missing is talk about “reaching across the aisle” and the selection of an out-of-the-blue running mate to serve as scapegoat in the aftermath.

    I pray we’re wrong about that. But right now, all that is, is a prayer.

  • jamesm

    Last night was a painful night for Romney supporters. I confess I supported him (over McCain) in 2008. His only hope is trash his opponents. But that will drive his poll numbers lower and will make him look angry. This contest could go to the convention. If it does look for a Not Romney candidate to emerge. Santorum/Gingrich will come together to defeat Romney at the convention. Paul supporters do not seem partial to Romney. Romney is in serious trouble

  • WY_Cowboy

    In a nut shell, this is what’s wrong with Mitt Romney. Makes you wonder if he has any clue whatsoever. The money line is at about 1 minute.

    Here is the link if the embed doesn’t work.
    Video Here

    • cbartlett

      can you imagine the DNC ad coming from this video? How on God’s green earth will Romney ever defeat Obama with this kind of ammunition running around out there?

  • miconservative

    That Albert Pujols WAY out performs Trumbo over the next 10 years…if Trumbo lasts 10 years. Pujols will hit way more HRs, way more RBI, score way more RUNS and probably hit about 25 pts. higher. Kendry Morales is the one that could have been near Pujols in prodction, Morales was hurt last year.

    • acat

      Great rookie pitcher, blew his arm, never been the same since.

      Mew

      • Leon H. Wolf

        Mitt Romney is due for Tommy John surgery?

        Sorry, I’m just trying to fit in with the comments this piece has provoked.

        • acat

          what’s wrong with Romney, Leon? I’d be all for getting him a charisma transplant!

          The point I was after, actually, was that Wood is the flipside of Trumbo; Wood blowing his arm in his first or second season (and injuring it every subsequent season) is why managers hedge their bets and hire old guys like Pujols. I recall an early analysis of Wood that pretty much nailed his career – this was back when he was a rookie – predicting that, because he throws 10%-20% more pitches than any other pitcher, he’s in for a shorter or more injury-prone career.

          If you really want a Romney analogy in it, I’d say that Romney in 2009 was Kerry Wood in 1999…. like you say, he looks good on paper, he does some of the right stuff, but he physically can’t live up to the early career promise.

          Mew

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Kerry Wood actually WAS a very good baseball player. His problem was that he was misused, which led to an injury which kept him from reaching his full potential (Kerry Wood is still to this day a better-than-serviceable major league reliever, but is not the rotation anchor he should have become).

            The Beane one is better because Beane looked like he should have been an awesome baseball player, he just never was. I mean, Beane never had anything equivalent to Wood’s 20 strikeout game upon which people should have believed that he was a great player.

            And that is why Kerry Wood is playing in the majors right now and Billy Beane is a General Manager.

          • acat

            I recognize this may be a moral failing on my part.

            Yes, Romney does look more like Beane, from that light.

            Mew

    • Leon H. Wolf

      I don’t have $10,000 to bet on anything. However, I’d bet you a solid 5-spot on it. Pujols is already at the age where skills decline and injuries start to dominate a professional athlete’s career. In four short years he will turn 36 where virtually every non-steroided athlete hits a major performance wall.

      Trumbo, on the other hand, turns 27 next year, which means he is heading into the best three year-stretch most athletes enjoy. Granted he could get injured or suffer mental difficulties but then, so could Pujols – and in fact given his age it is probably somewhat more likely that Pujols will do so.

      The real area where Pujols will perhaps have more value is that he is perhaps the best defensive first baseman since Keith Hernandez.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and since no one really knows what Romney believes short of his wife, kids, and of course himself, it is hard to say for sure what the man would do as President. I think Romney’s record is not that great when you add that his flip-flops may be more documented than anyone else in history. Most candidates changed their mind about certain things, but I am not sure what Romney has not changed his mind about, except the Health Care reform he signed into law as governor. That is enough to make me question whether Romney would really even try to get rid of Obamacare.

    I want a governor, but Romney’s negatives are high in my eyes, and since he is not even liked by the base, then why should I think he would be liked by the rest of the country. I really see no reason to support the guy until he wins the nomination, and even then I will have my worries. I think the Republican party cannot afford another candidate that calls himself a conservative but governs in a centrist manner, with leftist tendencies every once in a while.

    • Leon H. Wolf

      He believes dogs like the wind in their face while you are driving down the highway.

      • colleenlass

        Actually..they do. Growing up on a farm, the dogs could not wait to jump into the back of pickups. Did they sit to avoid the wind..no. They stood and faced the wind..100% of the time.

        NEXT…although not the greatest idea for someone to do what Mitt did…he did build a windscreen on the cage.
        Fact.
        His 5 boys did not want to go on vacation without their dog, but the dog merely would not fit into the station wagon as it was crammed full. So..Mitt gave in.. and made it as safe and comfortable for the dog as he could.
        Not advising anyone to do such a thing.
        But….LET US GET THE STORY STRAIGHT.
        The dog did get motion sickness..but so does my dog Duke in the car.
        Have a nice day.

  • salj

    A Christian doesn’t have a Biblical right to vote for an unbeliever.Santorum should repent for buying an endorsement and get out of the race.We should fear only God.

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      –no-text–

    • rogershru2

      I must have missed the Epistle on voting. We have clear instructions to select church leaders, but public officials? Selecting a king of the former theocracy of Israel is not comparable.

    • Bill S

      We are NOT going to tolerate religious bigotry, whether it be anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-Mormon, anti-Semitic, anti-Islamic, etc.

      You WILL be banned for it. Like this guy.

      Observe and learn.

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com;http://news.unifiedpatriots.com/ Beaglescout

    The message of Moneyball was not to pick based on risk aversion. That’s the kind of magical thinking the old scouts were following when they picked based on things like whether a guy’s wife was a 7 or a 10. Shows confidence, don’t ya know? Moneyball advocated analyzing what really mattered and picking based on that.

    In that light… What will win against Obama in 2012?

    The strongest contrast with Obama
    Who will stay on message
    Who cannot be slimed because of moral failings

    The GOP can bring the money. And someone who brings out the base like Santorum will also have coattails. Romney won’t.

    • Dave_A

      A message that ‘everyone but the left’ can believe in, and a lack of ‘slime’ for Obama to dig up and throw on TV….

      Santorum is ‘clean’, but he lacks the message…. ‘Bring back the 50s’ does not appeal outside a small segment of the religious right that’s still against rock music, thinks college is a liberal/secular conspiracy, and has some strange fixation on manual labor as the only proper way to make a living….

      Gingrich is slimier than a McD’s fry-oil vat, and also has no inspiring message….

      Romney is ‘clean’, and has an ‘economic’ message that will resonate with the disillusioned sheep who bought ‘Hope & Change’ in 08.

      As I’ve said before, Romney has already knocked out everyone ‘better’… Like it or not, there is no better choice on the ticket to face Obama….

      • acat

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      • WY_Cowboy

        Romney hasn’t knocked anyone out. As a matter of fact, the longer this goes on, the more he loses. His nomination isn’t pre-ordained, and he’s doing a good job of blowing it all together. The Romney smears of Rick Santorum have already begun. The thing is, I doubt it works as well against Santorum as it did against Newt. Simple reason, Rick isn’t slimey for real.

        In addition, Romney’s attack dog mentality will not at all be effective against Obama if it’s the only way he can win the nomination. Nobody like a jerk.

        I’m not sure Santorum can win, but I’m even less certain that Mitt can. Santorum will have to be more than a social issues candidate to win the nomination. He will have to pull movement conservative from Newt and the only way to do that is to push a conservative fiscal, social, and security agenda. If he can sell it, he would be the better candidate to put up against Obama.

        Mitt can’t do it because he’s not conservative. Not at all. He betrays himself when he speaks off the cuff, and he has yet to show he can connect with ordinary Republican voters. To be the last man standing and unable to communicate a compelling message why anyone should vote FOR him is not the kind of candidate we want in the fall. With a candidate like that at the top of the ticket, it could lead to a down abllot disaster.

        • Dave_A

          I get the ‘SMOD’ persuasion – the remaining choice suck…

          My original list of ‘hope-they-rans’ was Thune, Coburn, DeMint, and Gen Petraeus.

          None of them ran… So then it was Perry… And he got hen-pecked out over debates & irrelevant issues…

          That said, I don’t go to ‘SMOD’, I default back to the Rove-style ‘who’s the winner, purity is irrelevant if we lose’ mentality…

          And the only one I can see that can win the GENERAL is Romney.

          True, Santorum COULD win the Primary, IF he dumped his ‘bring back the 50s’ schtick & positioned himself as the ‘last man of conviction in the race’ on security and social issues….

          The problem is that he doesn’t present a compelling argument for the General, other than ‘I am not Obama’. Personally, I’m a social conservative, but the fact is that social issues have been back-burner since W left office, and ‘Not the other guy’ candidates (Kerry) always lose.

          Romney’s general-election argument – that he will do for the US what Bain did for individual companies – stays valid unless we see 3% or higher GDP growth…. But if that happens, Obama gets a Clinton-style ‘It’s the economy, stupid’ victory no matter who we run against him….

          And that’s how I’ve reconciled myself to Romney’s nomination….

          Well, that and the fact that the Bain issue prevents him from running a populist economic platform (As Gingrich has already shown he intends to do)…..

          • WY_Cowboy

            What is SMOD?

          • westcoastpatriette

            stands for Sweet Meteor of Death. I am not sure of its origin, but I first heard the term a few days ago when Erickson announced that he was endorsing SMOD for the presidency for lack of a better choice. I am sure others around must know more about the term.

          • acat

            SMOD appears
            SMOD’s first ad
            SMOD’s plan for child care

            Do bear in mind that, while Ace of Spades is generally a conservative site, it’s also not politically correct and occasionally Not Safe For Work… especially in the comments!.

            Mew

          • westcoastpatriette

            SMOD-informed

        • snowshooze

          Now, there is a race to look forward to.

          • acat

            I’ve seen this movie before….

            Mew

          • snowshooze

            Is it worth watching?

          • cbartlett

            snowshooze – the movie is a LOT better than this election circus is going to be, At least the popcorn won’t make you throw up.

          • Dave_A

            Obama’s faults are all policy and attitude… There’s nothing personal to sling ‘mud’ at (unless you consider accusations of arrogance & incompetence ‘mudslinging’ – I don’t)…

            The reason that negative campaigning WORKS against Gingrich, is that Gingrich is, as I’ve said before, a slime-ball. So why attack him on policy, when you can attack him personally? There’s just so much to work with, and no opponent is going to pass up such a golden opportunity – including Obama.

            Come the general, the only angle on Obama will be policy, arrogance & incompetence… If there was personal dirt to fuel a mudslinging contest, then we would have seen it in 08, by way of Hillary.

            That’s why it’s critical to nominate a GOP candidate who doesn’t have anything to sling mud about – because if our guy is ‘dirty’ (ala Gingrich) then Obama will mud-sling his way to a second term, and there’s nothing we can do to turn that back on him, because while he is absolutely abhorrent on policy, he doesn’t seem to have ‘baggage’ that sticks….

          • acat

            There is plenty of mud to hit Obama with.

            Hillary couldn’t sling it and keep the urban black Dems in line.

            McCain wouldn’t sling it, preferring to lose than to risk being seen as a bigot.

            Romney won’t sling it. … but his proxies will.

            Mew

      • elayman

        more compulsively than they would have in a less toxic political environment. His appeal was more impressive-looking than a strong endorsement, simply for being a known factor in a string of “front runners” that never would have made it off the ground in a stronger field. Mitt was the beneficiary of a boomerang effect from the obsession with far right candidates that would have gotten unknown but conviction conservative Huntsman more looks in a less polarizing year. IMO.

        Unfortunately there is no adequate remedy at this point but it can be good medicine to finally taste the bitter truth that the GOP played with fire, and are getting burned, or getting had, by what should have been easily avoidable mistakes.

    • Leon H. Wolf

      Just to the baseball career of Billy Beane.

    • flagg

      It’s frequently misunderstood, but the guiding principle of the book is to determine what your competitors are under-valuing and then acquire that. For the A’s of the “Moneyball” era, it was OBP and guys who didn’t strike out.

      If there’s a political analogy for this primary, it appears to be social conservatives who don’t really like rich people either.

      • demsaresatanic

        “it appears to be social conservatives who don?t really like rich people either.”

        When a person grows up wealthy he is not going to share the experiences of the electorate, he will have difficulty connecting. Kennedy you say, Romney is no Kennedy, FDR, same song second verse. Some can overcome, most can’t, and Romney can’t.

        A man who grew up not just never having to wonder where the next meal is coming from, but never having to wonder where the next mansion is coming from, is going to have a hard time connecting with his audience even assuming the best of intentions. That is part of Romney’s problem and why he would be a very hard sell in November were he to be the nominee. Call it envy or whatever you want, it is there.

  • Ned Reck

    Mr. Romney has none. Notta… no core beliefs.

    His belief system changes directions faster than a thistle seed… caught within a tornado.

    Electing this man is not as bad as re-electing Mr. Obama… but just barely.

    Ned

    • WY_Cowboy

      Point in fact: Today Romney attacked Obama for forcing religious institutions (Catholic institutions being more prominent) to provide medical benefits that are contrary to the doctrine of the religion that founded the institution. The White House pushed back by pointing out Obama is instituting the exact same rule Romney instituted in Mass. when he was governor through Romneycare. That was just today!

      Need I say more?

      • Ned Reck

        I thought the same thing! It is the most recent example of my post above.

        Ned

        • Ausonius

          “You gotta understand! It’s nuttin’ puhsonal: it’s just politics!”

          To the warped mind of a Dem, a religion has no right NOT to offer abortions or birth control at its hospitals or schools or whatever, even though such things violate the religion, because the “Constitutional right” to an abortion or to “free” contraception cannot be denied to Americans attending or visiting those schools or hospitals, even though said Americans COULD go to a public institution down the street to have the infanticide performed, or to receive “their birth control devices.”

          I almost feel I have written a script for South Park!

          And in case you don’t know the quoted phrase above, here is a further clue:

          In the 70′s, “every time they are having sex, the poor foxes must visit the closest national monument to get their birth control devices.”

    • krish

      If Romney is elected, it will be 10 times worse than GW Bush! TARP, Romneycare instead of Obamacare, Minimum wage, etc….
      I can bet (may be 10,000 lira?) that Republicans will lose the House & Senate big in 2014! It is a gurantee!

      Let us hope Santorum starts winning!

  • tngal

    He was endorsed by Trump and then….

  • deVere

    A vote for Rick Santorum is a vote to roll back the clock, to the extent it is possible. It’s an emotional issue, and people vote their emotions.

    • weyland

      Constitutional amendment? That’s rather Big Government, isn’t it? Surely this is a State’s Rights issue, and the Federal Gov. has no business getting involved.

      • deVere

        The public regularly votes for referendums to restrict gay marriage, and the courts overturn. That engenders frustration and anger, and Satorum is ideally situated to be the beneficiary of that anger.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          Prop 8 in CA was declared null and void by the 9th Circus – not unexpected – but the stories I saw today indicated SCOTUS wouldn’t review it.

          And that will likely put the marriage issue behind us.

          • deVere

            Bad manners are not a substitute for thought.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Please.

            The obvious point is that the gay marriage issue is being taken on at the state level and will not be solved with a DOMA type solution. And it’s not something a President can wave his magic wand and fix.

            It is complete stupidity. Exactly like the stupidity that was involved in so-cons anointing Huckabee and Santorum who can’t fix the things that so-cons want fixed and who won’t fix the things that really must be fixed.

            Stupidity.

          • deVere

            You seem to be determined to miss the point , so let’s agree to disagree.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Casting a vote to express deeply held feelings and electing a totally unqualified man who will not even attempt to solve the real problems of the nation is the very definition of stupidity. And ignorance.

            It’s you who’s missed the point.

          • snowshooze

            Yep… you got it.

          • deVere

            They elected Obama, and Santorum very well qualified compared to Obama in 2008.

            Santorum has a very good chance of election if he gets the nomination. His extreme abortion stance, not any lack of experience, is his main political problem..

          • Dave_A

            It ‘federalizes’ yet another presently state-level issue…

            By voiding Prop 8, the 9th forces gay-marriage opponents to seek a federal solution, whereas by letting it stand the issue would have stayed a state issue.

          • deVere

            Everything in this country becomes a federal issue, because the federal courts have the last say. The obvious answer to this problem is for Congress to start using its dormant power to regualte the juridiction of the federal courts.

          • olds88er

            The Ninth Circuit,a Federal Court, ruled, and rightly so, that Proposition 8, a California proposition, is trumped, rightly so, by the Federal Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause.

      • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

        I am sick and tired of the phony liberal arugment that any time you make a law about something basic taht is “BIG GOVERNMENT” as if defining marriage is the same as
        spending $3,700,000,000,000 dollars, writing 2800 page laws, creating dozens of bureacracies that dictate every nook and cranny of a businesses existence.

        In 1787, when the constitution was written, and for our first 200+ years, marriage was defined in law and in dictionaries simply as between one man and one woman. So America was a Big Govt Socialist country because of that?!?

        “Surely this is a State?s Rights issue, and the Federal Gov. has no business getting involved.”

        Surely the Obama administration undermining of DOMA will eliminate the rights of states to define marriage as they see fit, given that ‘big govt’ clause in the constitution aka Full Faith and Credit. So we need a President to defend DOMA or states rights in marriage will get washed away. JMHO.

        A vote for Santorum btw rolls no clock back, but rather maintains status quo wrt traditional marriage, which we need for the next generation.

        • Dave_A

          Has nothing to do with gay marraige, and everything to do with his populist message….

          He goes beyond ‘traditional moral values’, and wants to resurrect an entire economic & cultural way of life that is fortunately long-gone…

          We don’t need the 50s back…

          You can’t make abortion or gay marraige right – but it doesn’t make the old, uneducated/unsophisticated America a ‘better place’ either….

          • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

            …because you are already touting his lies for him about Santorum.

            I’ve not heard anything from the man that justifies saying that he wants to roll anything back to the 1950s. That’s YOUR PREJUDICE, not an analysis.

            You’ve said this at least four times just in this thread. Provide some support for the claim, or stfu with your anti-religious bigotry, k, sport?

    • snowshooze

      Won’t that be cool.

  • rhampton

    It doesn’t matter if you’re for or against Romney, the enthusiasm problem pertains to all the remaining GOP candidates. In just about every state caucus and primary, turn out is lower than 2008. I’m starting to think that it doesn’t really matter who wins the nomination because the base isn’t really interested in working to elect Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum as President. Yet how is it, given Obama’s tenure, that this election requires the base to be genuinely, positively enthused? Shouldn’t this be a year where the middle shifts rightward, and thus determine the election even if the base offers tepid support?

  • okpensfan

    “I am as close to 100% certain as I can be that both would lose in a landslide to Obama.” – and I feel the same about Romney. To be more specific, I think our field is weak and in normal election cycle, any of these guys would lose.

    But this isn’t a normal cycle. This President is so unpopular, it may be possible that anyone we pick could win. Because their guy sucks more than our guy – and nothing more.

    • snowshooze

      Of course, when we have them on the run… we retreat.
      And offer lukewarm passed over seconds hopless attempt…mush.

      • Dave_A

        We have them dug in on their side of the divide, but not running anywhere… The ‘best’ polls for the GOP have always shown Obama down just slightly – and of the remaining opponents, the only one who polls this way is Romney. Gingrich loses by double-digits… Same for Santorum….

        The momentum of 2010 has been squandered – some of that squandering starting while the 2010 election was still underway…

        Most of it happened during the debt-ceiling fight – thanks to extreme Tea Party idiocy (in primarying out electable Republicans for lunatic fringe candidates) during the 2010 cycle, we were stuck fighting that battle against a Democratic Senate…. Between the Dem Senate pushing a left-wing proposal, and folks like Bachmann saying we should do nothing (which the Dems successfully turned back on us all), the result was inevitable – a crap-sandwich deal, and the GOP eating the blame for the fight…

        Thanks to that, what should have been a slam-dunk is now a competitive fight.

        Further, ‘I’m not the other guy’ is ALWAYS a losing proposition against an incumbent.

  • snowshooze

    Really. Leon,
    You have more backwash over this than even I could come up with.
    You couldn’t have done better if you had headlined..
    ” Let’s all kick on Romney day!!! ”
    But personally, I recognize all the work you do here, for nothing but the sheer glory… and I send my thanks.
    Even if we don’t see eye to eye, I still respect your decision, and at a personal level will never deny you that ultimate right.
    Besides that, I think you are a pretty good and decent guy.
    ) even if a bit mis-directed ( lol
    Mark

  • daune

    I’m sorry, but all I can picture is a cartoon of Mitt Romney driving a car with a dog carrier strapped to the top. In the car with Romney are a group of people labeled “Republican Moderates”; in the carrier on top are a group of people labeled “Conservatives”. I’m reasonably certain that is exactly what Romney would do to us if he were to win the nomination as the Republican candidate. Frankly, I think that the disaster that was GWB would be small potatoes compared to what another non-conservative republican would do to our chances of ever being able to elect a conservative again.

    Think about how the recent crop of tea party supported candidates are being treated in DC, the republican establishment is allowing them to be painted as the main reason nothing is being accomplished by Congress. They are being thrown under the bus by Democrats – but they are being held there by their own party. Mitt Romney would be in front, guiding the bus and making sure that the tires run over the conservatives – and in the end, would join the crowd in blaming them for his failures.

    Do we really want a republican egomaniac to replace a democratic narcissist?
    Maybe you do – but I don’t.

    • snowshooze

      Oh jeeze.. it is a rib splitter.

  • gafisher

    Mitt Romney’s most notable positive, executive experience, and most significant negative, charisma, are the precise inversion of Obama’s cardinal characteristics, but between those two extremes there is far less to distinguish them. Each has voiced strong opposition toward core conservative values and lent vigorous support for philosophies at odds with conservatism in general and America’s founding values in particular. Like the upside-down image in a funhouse mirror, what we see is a reflection, not an alternative.

    Mitt Romney may be the candidate the Obama campaign would most like to run against, but he is also the opponent Obama would be least upset to lose to.

    “”If it?s between Obama and Romney, there isn?t all that much difference except for the crowd that they bring with them.” [George Soros] (http://blogs.reuters.com/davos/2012/01/25/george-soros-obama-romney/)

  • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

    I do not understand the appeal of Mitt Romney to any Republican, but I am grateful that you’ve come to recognize that his electability is not all it’s cracked up to be.

    I’m mystified, however, by your assessment of candidates by their early campaign strategies. With Gingrich, that makes some sense (as with Perry, perhaps) but Santorum was always a dark horse, and only ever stood a chance if he won enough to generate funding support in flight. Of course he has a thin staff and big gaps in his organization. It’s to be expected.

    As to Romney’s electability, it was always a myth, even if he was an average campaigner. Romney epitomizes everything about Republicans that the Democrats need the country to believe if they’re going to re-elect Obama: plutocratic friends of greedy Wall Street bankers who are out of touch with average Americans, scary religious fanatics from insular, inscrutable cults, cults that have been openly racist in recent memory and almost certainly continue to be secret racists communicating in code. Democratic party strategists pray for Romney to win the nomination every night before they sleep.

    Obama v Romney is average America v 1%. Obama wins.

    Obama v Gingrich is sane, known v dangerous kook. It’s a tossup.

    Obama v Santorum is oppressive, anti-religious government v ordinary folks just living their lives. THIS is where the Republican party wins big.

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      …for a solution to this dilemma…a Modest “Proposal.”

      • cbartlett

        My only question is whether Mitt’s ego would actually allow for “conceding” at CPAC. He’s been running for president for so many years now, I don’t think he’ll give up very easily. I think he’s out for what’s best for Mitt, not what’s best for America.

  • manny
    For a fascinating insight into “what’s wrong with Romney,” see Stephen Stone at RenewAmerica: “Who Is Mitt Romney?” http://www.renewamerica.com/romney.htm
    Excerpt:
    What makes Mitt the kind of person he is ? ruthlessly opportunistic, dishonest, insincere, willing to say anything for advantage, lacking in conscience, preoccupied with appearance, etc., on the one hand, yet squeaky clean, family-oriented, disciplined, boring, and predictable, on the other?
    My new e-book, A Mormon Story, sheds light on the culture that produced Mitt Romney.
    The book reveals a value system that ultimately has no absolutes, other than the need to conform to deep-seated, highly-controlling authoritarianism that pervades LDS culture.
    That culture emphasizes a Mormon tradition known as “eternal progression” ? undoctrinal spiritual evolution in which even God is changing. It also emphasizes the notion that the latest words of governing church leaders trump the Word of God found in the scriptures (including LDS scripture). As a result, Mormons have little incentive to inform themselves about what the scriptures call the “doctrine of Christ” (since they consider that doctrine subject to change); or to rely directly on God to know His will in applying that doctrine to their lives; or to sacrifice their security, comfort, or needs to do what is right, above all else.
    In such a system, truth is relative, LDS leaders become the only reliable authority, and individual members are subservient.
    Outwardly, as is well known, Mormons appear upright ? but that is due largely to intense pressure to conform to the norms of Mormon society, and to uphold the Mormon church’s nurtured image of conventionality. Inwardly, Mormons are less independently moral, principled, and informed than they may seem (something LDS scripture quotes God Himself as saying about them). They are trained to be dependent on church authorities to tell them what to think and do, in ways non-Mormons would have difficulty relating to. They behave much like a “cult” ? one centered in obedience to powerful, dictatorial leaders.
    As a culture, Mormons therefore tend to lack moral courage ? of the sort that would enable them to rise above such social pressure and truly lead out in solving the problems and paradoxes of real life. They are inclined to exemplify not firm leadership, but timidity masquerading as normalcy….
    • Bill S

      This kind of anti-Mormon stuff is not tolerated here.

      Bye.

  • spelunker

    Why don’t all you neigh sayers quit beating up on the Republican candidates. If you don’t like them and want to keep Obama, vote for him and let our candidates be free to say whatever they want the public to hear. All you are doing is driving Obama’s approval rating upwards.

    • Juggernaut

      unemployment situation. The contraceptives boo boo plus BO’s desire for Super PAC money will piss off the left and his numbers will slide again.

      Wait till the GOP pushes the Keystone pipeline at the end of the month. Will Obama deny jobs to the midwest…negatives go up and polling goes down. People know who he really is now. His side gets po’ed and stays that way. Obama has a history that’s going to be aired by pacs and the candidate. In other words we can rip candidates and still see BO go down.

  • timmycrw91

    Elmer Fudd would beat Obama today. You also forget Carter and 2010. And Barry O does NOT have the funding that he claims. If an unqualified loser like Barak could be president, you think Newt or Rick couldn’t be? Are you kidding? You have to stop feeding at Ann Coulter’s teat. Romney is NOT a conservative, and is NOT the guy to challenge Barak any more than John McCain was. We conservatives have sent the message and mandate. You and yours can get on board or stay the hell out of our way, traitor,

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      This is simply a case of be respectful or be banned.

      • http://MichaelHarrington.org creinstein

        Hell I won’t even call Ron Paul traitor… I may despise him, but he ain’t… nor is any of the mods here a traitor…

        I think he needed a drill sergeant level kick to the backside…

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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    • naraht

      I don’t see anything on Foreign politcy that currently that compares to the Iran Hostage Crisis. There are however some possibilities, collapse of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or maybe Syria to Somalia level of lack of government. Jerusalem glowing in the dark falls into that category as well of course.

      I’m not sure Chavez assholery can fall into that category though. Any other ideas?

  • cuthbertson54

    Just remember all, that the alternative to the Republican nominee is a MARXIST. Don’t believe it? Read his book and look at his record the past three years. This man wants to, and has shown that he will, take away ALL of our freedoms if re-elected. That should be sufficient to fire up all conservatives, moderates, Independents, and even some liberals to get him the heck out of office! We need to become like Patrick Henry, who cherished freedom so much that he declared,

    “Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?”, then answered: “Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

    We should all be motivated enough that if our candidate were a rock we would campaign vigorously for that inanimate object rather than four more years of the spawn of Karl Marx, Saul Alinksi, and Geroge Soros.

    My goodness America…. Wake up!

  • LDahl752

    Leon, your analysis is solid, but I’m wondering why a Mitt supporter, espressing the flaws you’ve put forth, would remain a Mitt supporter? Have you bought into the mantra that we have a weak field of candidates? I don’t believe that for a minute. Any of our candidates (except for one) would and should be able to defeat BHO easily. We just need to get the message very clear, expressed repeatedly and very loudly. This president is destroying our country and he MUST be defeated.
    They all have pointed out so many failures in this administration. At the same time, conservatives must work to get many more conservatives elected to the House and the Senate. This country will not be put back on the right track if we don’t get Congress engaged in solving problems, rather than focusing on their next election and with, hopefully, a willing President in the Oval to sign the legislation they enact.

  • ihateliberals

    Gingrich woul dmake a much better President than Romney or Santorum and especially Obama. We need someone that isn’t afraid of congress and knows how congress works. Gingrich is the only one with that experience. We also need someone that wil repeal Obamacare and Romney isn’t that person.

    • carolynr

      I think I am hoping for the impossible. Congress passes a bill…both houses of Congress are filled with fiscal Conservatives….and they over ride Romney’s or Obama’s veto. We cannot allow four more years of Obama…I feel exactly like you do…but I will vote for *&)*&) WILLARD…if that is what I have to do.

  • soljerblue

    ?Holy cow, this guy is doomed.?

    It’s beginning to sink in.

  • nitaell72
    What is wrong with Ron Paul? I mean, I see nothing wrong with the man or his policies. He has my vote come h*** or high water. I’m asking YOU what’s wrong with Ron Paul….

    The others are neocons—pretend, wanna-be conservatives who endorse big fat-cat gov’t and excessive spending/taxation, and they are war-mongerers!

    Please remove your head from your nether regions and educate yourself on Liberty, starting with Ron Paul.

    Thank you very much.
    Nita Larson

  • snappy101

    The way I see it, the only thing Romney has going for him is executive experience. I think that’s a Number 1 qualification for the job but how can I vote for someone who has been on every side of every issue. I’m scared to death of who he might nominate for the Supreme Court. I hear the argument, “What could he do as governor of a liberal state?” and wonder if he had a Democrat House and Senate would he appease them, too. I could never vote for Newt Gingrich. I can’t think of a more inside the beltway guy than him. As far as his resume goes, I think he’s an ideas guy not a do-er. I see his administration as a big clusterbleep. And how do you get past Rick Santorum’s big government voting record? I know I can’t.

    P.S. If all anyone cares about are the Independents maybe we should all re-register as Independents so the Republican Machine kisses our collective butts. Hey GOP, go ask the Independents for donations.

    • colleenlass

      Who is the Republican machine?
      List their names…list the groups.
      Do they drive people to the polls and force them to vote for a specific person?
      Perhaps you are much smarter than I am.
      Please list all you know and how they force the average American to go against their will.
      Thanks

  • dennis1111

    Mr. Wolf has used the wrong title for his reproach of Mitt, Newt and Rick. Which is just the problem. Mr. Wolf rails against all of the Republican candidates except for the one he doesn’t mention-Mr. Paul. It seems Paulists understand the uselessness of promoting Paul to conservatives. So, they spend their efforts slamming Paul’s competition. The start by ruling out Newt and Rick in favor of Mitt and the end by offing Mitt. That doesn’t leave anyone but Paul. It is the disengenuous nature of this activity which I object to.

    If the Libertarians stuck to the issues and built on their strengths they would not garner much more than they have. So slash and burn is their technique. The sad part of this from my view is that the Libertarians I have personal knowledge of would rather vote for Obama than Mitt, Newt or Rick. Thus, if Paul is not our candidate-and he won’t be-the Libertarians will throw the election to Obama.

    I think it is time for Republicans to recognize that there is a third party already operational among us and it’s effort is to weaken the GOP. It’s hard to fathom that freedom loving, Pro-American citizens would rather have Obama than any Republican but Paul.

    So, Mr Wolf should really title his dubious article: “WHY YOU SHOULDN’T VOTE REPUBLICAN-EXCEPT PAUL.”
    I hope this duplicitous technique finds fallow ground among the bright issue oriented conservatives of Red State. Best, dlc

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  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Pretty amazing that, given all the rising conservative stars serving as govs and in the congress, that THIS is what we are left to choose from.. I mean, the fact that we are even talking about Rick Santorum, at this late date, says NOTHING about him but EVERYTHING about Romney and Gingrich.

    I guess you could hope the economy tanks between now and November, but I refuse to go there. Short of that, Im having trouble imagining a road to victory here. Lil help?

  • NeoKong

    The field sucks.
    We are now forced to pick between three guys we were laughing about six months ago and now have to pretend that they are the best that conservatism has to offer.

    Let’s be honest here.
    When we have to prop up one of these guys and say “Oh yeah he’s a real conserrrrrrvative” we don’t have our hearts in it.
    We have to tell ourselves “Well at least he’ll be better than Obama”.
    But none of them were ever our first choice.
    But like it or not It’s Mitt, Newt or Santorum and we will have get behind one of them.

  • renl57

    I never again want to hear any Republican politician say:

    “This is the most important election in our lifetime,” or “This time, the future of our Republic is at stake”

    – but then announce that they’ve decided not to run in order to spend time with their families (or pursue a different career).

  • ihavehadit

    I am from Missouri, the so called “Show me State” well last night we showed just how utterly STUPID we are. Santorum is only a conservative we he feels like being one. He is defiinitely socially conservative but is an establishment high spending Republican too. Why we are even considering voting nominating this clown is beyond me. No one wanted him before and now all of sudden he is the great white hope??? Ann Coulter was right when she told that idiot Hannity that Republicans were the only party that could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We nominate that arrogant government man Sanatorum, and we will lose by a landslide. No Independent will vote for that far right nut Santorum. We need the Independents and so do the Democrats.

  • sethellis

    This is just the way that straight arrow Mormons are. Romney has a bad case of High Priest’s syndrome. Some have said the same things about me. Many simply aren’t accustomed to that type of personality. Over time it becomes endearing, just like many of Reagan’s quirks were, but it will probably always be a vulnerability for him.

  • annie54

    and there were an estimated 3,000 in attendance ALL in one accord. Rick spoke for 1 hour with no notes . There was no standing room left in the conference center. Rick Santorum was more powerful than one can see on TV. I suggest everyone check his schedule on his website and if you have to go the distance to get there, it is well worth it.

    I was there and I cried and I’m not a crier. The lady beside me, whom I didn’t know, was crying. The Spirit in the room gave me chills. People were saying, “he’s the one we’ve been waiting for” and “he’s like us.” The crowd consisted of all ages and professions.

    Give the guy a chance. He’s been right under our nose the whole time.

  • WY_Cowboy

    as opposed to Mitt Government-Run-Health-Care-Individual-Mandate Romney? Seriously?

    At least Santorum says what he believes and has a bold plan to address entitlements. Mitt seems to run everything he says by a focus group first. When he doesn’t, he gets into a ton of trouble. I still don’t know what all 59 points of his economic plan are. Bet he doesn’t either.

  • Paul_Zummo

    It’s amazing to see the ridiculous bile being levelled against a guy, especially by people who either support a mandate-issuing, flip-floppong ex-governor like Romney, or the mandate-loving former Speaker with progressive instincts.

  • nepanyrush

    Your statement “No independent will vote for that far right nut Santorum” shows how little you actually know about Santroum. After winning in a Democratic congressional district against an independent, his district was redrawn to have a 3:1 Democrat to Republican ratio and he had to run against a 7-term Democratic incumbent in that district and Santorum won. He twice won statewide election in a state with 1 million more Democrats than Republicans.

    Why has the conservative Santorum done so well in Democratic electorates? Because he brought home the Reagan Democrats and in particular the conservative Catholics. In 2006 he lost to a Democratic Catholic (Casey) who presented himself as pro-life. But otherwise, Santorum has done very well in attracting independents and Democrats.

    Your statement about “far right nut” is always rather bizarre. Santorum stands for marriage between a man and a woman. Is that “far right nut” level? He basically believes in Catholicism. Are Catholics “far right nuts”?

    Personally, I think Santorum would do the best against Obama and some national polls have shown that. He attracts all the Republicans and many independents and Democrats. But if he cannot get the nomination, I could live with Romney. The one person that I think would lose in a landslide to Obama is Gingrich, because he has very high negatives and I actually think people like him less the more they see him. With Santorum, people like him more the more they see him.

  • fightnright

    I like to say that Democrats know how to take a nation with 24% liberal self identifiers and hike it up to 51%, and Repubs know how to take a nation with over 50% conservative self identifiers and run it down to 49%.

    And I agree with Leon’s remarks 100%, hoping Mitt improves his rhetoric and affect as he improved his debating skills after Newt’s pre-SC homerun.

    Mitt is also walking a straitjacketing tightrope that Santorum and Gingrich haven’t tried to navigate at present. Rick and Newt are only trying at this point to win over the committed conservative vote, not attempting to target the indies and moderates yet. Romney seems to be already trying to appeal to a general electorate, probably a lousy idea within a Republican primary with the strongest and most important faction being the conservative base.

  • clintonformccain

    Romney’s actually improved a lot as a candidate from four years ago.

    It’s not helping that the Republican base is using Democrat talking points against him at the moment. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what he said about poor people and fighting for the middle class. In an ideal world, Republicans should have defended him rather than doing Axlerod’s messaging for him. Unfortunately, Republicans are not all rowing in the same direction right now.

  • nepanyrush

    nb

  • WY_Cowboy

    Also, the more people get to know Rick Santorum and his family, the more they like them all. He rushed home from the campaign trail to be with his wife and children when the family was in a state of crisis. This isn?t extraordinary and we would expect nothing less. However, in him doing that we all became aware of the human side of Santorum. As a result, a kind of intimacy was developed between voters and Rick Santorum. It would be a lie to say they contrived this and maneuvered to capitalize from this. However, he was awarded for lifting the veil a little on his family and their trials. Rick Santorum is not only a candidate and politician. He is a husband and father faced daily with the mortality of his daughter and revels in the love of his family. Voters responded to that because it is real and that makes Santorum real. It is what it is.

  • WY_Cowboy

    was telling the country he didn’t care about poor people because they had a safety net, and if the safety net need fixed, he’d fix it.

    Contrast the foot-in-mouth Mitt where everything seems calculated, poll tested, and focus grouped, with Rick Santorum and his family’s trials, it’s easier to see why Santorum surged in MN, MO, and CO.

  • renl57

    Romney’s position on immigration is further to the right than Gingrich’s or even Perry’s.

    Romney’s positions on domestic issues–go check his website–are definitely conservative.

    The problem is that the GOP base doesn’t think he’s sincere about those positions.

    And that’s due to something he can’t change: He’s from Massachusetts. And the only type of Republicans that ever get elected to high office in MA are moderates (like Bill Weld), or even liberals (like Ed Brooke).

    So Romney couldn’t possibly have been that conservative, back then in MA.

    What Romney should admit to, is that he wasn’t a conservative in his younger years–and explain just what changed his mind. He’s never going to convince anybody that he’s always been conservative. But he could convince folks why he embraced conservatism more recently.

    If Romney were as conservative as he portrayed himself in 2008 and 2012, he couldn’t have gotten elected governor of a state as far to the left as MA.

    And that problem can’t be fixed.

  • greyeagle

    Please stop saying that Romney’s position on immigration is further right than Perry’s. That is Hogwash. Perry would like to close the border period. However, it doesn’t matter what any of them think. If the border is NOT closed, it won’t make a difference. Obama has refused to do anything. Besides Romney talks out of both sides of his mouth.

  • earlgrey

    I feel exactly the same way.