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Derbyshire in 2003: I Am a Racist

By: Leon H. Wolf (Diary)  |  April 7th, 2012 at 11:26 AM  | 

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Yesterday, the entire Internet was ablaze with well-deserved condemnation for National Review contributor John Derbyshire’s racist rant. If you haven’t yet read it, I suggest you take a moment to do so; it is truly breathtaking. However, to those of us who have followed Derbyshire’s career prior to this point, the only surprise is that it took him so long to say something so contemptible that people have finally noticed. After all, in a 2003 interview with RedState contributor Kevin Holtsberry about his book, Prime Obsession: Bernhard Rieman and the Greatest Unsolved Problem in Mathematics, Derbyshire flatly declared that he was a racist.

I am a homophobe, though a mild and tolerant one, and a racist, though an even more mild and tolerant one, and those things are going to be illegal pretty soon, the way we are going. Of course, people will still be that way in their hearts, but they will be afraid to admit it, and will be punished if they do admit it.

Absolutely nothing that has happened in Derbyshire’s career since then has indicated that he didn’t mean exactly what he said to Kevin way back in 2003. This is the same man who once described welfare thusly:

Following the black riots of the 1960s, these concessions have also been seen by nonblacks as an implicit contract or treaty — that is, as nonblack America saying to black America: “We’ll give you this stuff if you promise not to break our windows.”

And also couldn’t understand all the fuss about the racist comments in the Ron Paul newsletters.

Derbyshire likes to pepper his racist rants with “facts” that generally consist of social studies that are subject to numerous interpretational biases. To me, the question as to whether these studies are accurate or correct is uninteresting and irrelevant – a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong. It is this very basis which Derbyshire rejects, and that is what makes him (and has always made him) a racist. He is not, as his defenders at the execrable Taki mag say, confronting the world with uncomfortable truths, he is proudly declaring himself to be a racist and arguing that it is correct to be racist. This, I submit, is something that all decent people should reject.

I like and respect the few people I know who are regular contributors to National Review.  I have on numerous occasions spoken to and emailed these people about the danger Derbyshire’s association presents to the magazine, and nothing has ever been done about it, presumably because the decision rests with editor Rich Lowry and others. I don’t know and haven’t ever met Rich Lowry, so I can’t speak to his personal qualities. But I can say that his response to this fracas last night, which sought to distance National Review from the controversy but didn’t declare that National Review was ending its relationship with Derbyshire, showed an absolute lack of leadership and conviction, as does the fact that Derbyshire has been continually allowed to write there for the last several years despite ample evidence of his racism. Derbyshire’s screed was so contemptible, especially in light of his lengthy history, that I cannot imagine a reason that Derbyshire should not have been summarily dismissed within the hour.

The longer this drags on without a definitive severing of the relationship, the more damage will be done to National Review. I cannot imagine what sort of deliberation is required to make this decision, but I hope, for National Review’s sake, that it can be completed before the weekend is over.

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  • aleena

    In the past few week, I have seen Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson numerous times on television engaging in very open and very obvious racist rants. The feelings they have stirred up have caused people to be attacked. Have you written about them?

    John Derbyshire is basically interested in mathematics. His comments were mild and not meant to hurt anyone. You take his remarks and twist them fit your point of view. And bascially call anyone who would defend him a racist.

    People like you have built a shrine to anti-racism. Anyone who doesn’t tow the anti-racism line the way you think they should must be dealt with severely. They must be marginalized and eliminated from interacting with the rest of us. Of course, people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton get a pass.

    I believe that all people should be treated equally. There should not be a different standard for people from different groups.

    • aesthete

      Because Derbyshire’s points 10a-10i are a blatant contradiction of your last paragraph. Derbyshire is basically interested in acting out his personal biases in a deeply disturbed way, and uses social indicators as an excuse for doing so.

      • mercyvetsel

        Sorry, but I don’t buy your “I used to attend a black church” as evidence that you aren’t a racist.

        Indeed, you seem to have internalized exactly the advice that Derbyshire offered except that you have developed a better excuse than having black friends.

        Personally, I think Derbyshire should use the “all of my children are mixed race” approach. It’s hard to think of a bigger investment in racial harmony than mixing your genetic destiny with a person of another race.” That definitely beats “I go to jazz clubs” or “I attended a black church once”.

        You seem make a big distinction on the appoint of applying group means to individuals, but if you had included the followup published in the “I am a racist” interview, you would see that Derbyshire does the same:

        “I don?t believe in any discrimination by public
        authorities, and of course I am familiar with the awful historical record of
        the United States in the matter of race slavery. I take individual people
        as they come, as I believe every sane person does.        ”

        So I’m still missing the part where you explain how your opinion and actions are any different than those of Derbyshire? The biggest difference that I can see is that he’s a big more honest.

        -Mercy

        P.S. Please feel free to ignore/delete/ban me as you have several other posters who committed the crime of disagreeing with you. I don’t need to spend time conversing with intolerant racists and I’m happy to post my impression of your racist views elsewhere.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          ..

        • Bill S

          From your “body of work”, it appears you slipped through the cracks. Oh well, sooner or later they all get caught.

    • http://www.red-alerts.com/ Rob Taylor

      And as a Bi-racial person I was hurt not by his words – he is a known degenerate who once claimed it was acceptable to be attracted to teens – but by the fact that the right which I am so proud to be a part of defends his petty David Duke-isms. It is deeply un-American to un-Conservative to judge people based on the groups they are in, on their collectives. Too long we have put up with that.

      The Hell’s Angels are all White and commit heinous crimes against women every year – they run forced prostitution rings as do all 1%er gangs. We do not judge groups of Whites hanging around together based on that. As a crime blogger I can tell you that the majority of pedophiles on any sex offender registry are White males – I have never claimed all White males are possible pedophiles.

      Derbyshire is in fact promoting a different standard for different groups and is against treating all people the same. This is not something the right, who hold individualism sacrosanct, should endorse.

    • swamphermit

      ..to that list. Also add Rev. Joseph Lowery, James Cone, Rev. James Meeks, Reverend Leah D. Daughtry (CEO for Denver 2008 Convention & Chief of Staff at the DNC), etc (the list is too long to continue, e.g. Charles Blow).

      BTW, James Cone wrote the books on the racist Black Liberation Theology that is preached by the many other Rev. Wrights in many other TUCC’s throughtout America ? ?Black hatred is the black man?s strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it?But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism.?

  • drivlikejehu

    People are upset at the piece because it hits on a stark dichotomy: on one hand, offensive and contrary to societal norms, on the other hand, perfectly consistent with the actual behavior of middle-class and affluent whites (and others too).

    It is easy to see how true this is. Look at counties which have a unified school system, but variations in the racial makeup of the student body. In these situations, the teachers and curriculum are equal from school to school- yet housing prices are higher near schools with low minority enrollment. People of course claim it’s because the school is better, based on test scores and the like, knowing full well that is just a reflection of the school’s demographics.

    Derbyshire’s basic point, by the way, is that in many situations you have no specific knowledge of the individuals you may encounter. In that case, it is logically correct that you should take demographic trends into account. Everyone already does this, but again cannot admit it. It’s very upsetting for people to see put into words things that they both abhor intellectually and practice in reality.

    So for those people that walk the colorblind walk, fire away at Derbyshire. For the 99.9% remaining, it’s just hypocrisy.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      Did Derbyshire point out some real concerns?, YES, did he point out the way that some white people act? Yes.

      The problem is that he mixed it with out right racism and some of what he says is overblown and some of it just not true.

      Are there some real problems with Black American culture? You betcha, but there are also problems with every other sub culture including the two I am from, Cajuns and Rednecks.

    • andreyosiatynski

      For his sake, I trust that Mr. Wolf is following most of the Derbyshire’s commonsense rules when it comes to his own and his family’s safety (rules that, by the way, even our race-Solon Jesse Jackson admitted following).
      But, in addition to hypocrisy — Mr. Wolf’s posting and his responses to some of the comments exemplify also the standard operating procedure of moral posturing: Run to the front of the lynch mob targeting the author of a non-PC (and therefore “indisputably racist”) article and off-with-their-heads eliminationist policy of immediately barring for life anybody whose comments disagree with Mr. Wolf’s “righteous” anger. All this to “purchase” one of these amulets of certified non-racism that Derbyshire talks about at the end of his article.
      Let’s hope Mr. Wolf will not have to rely on such amulets — when he meets another Trayvon and some of his closest friends on a leisurely walk through Mr. Wolf’s gated community.

      • Leon H. Wolf

        up until 2 years ago I attended a black church, and I just banned you.

        • davet

          No, you aren’t making yourself look like a lil’ tinpot dictator at all.

          Did you guys ever succeed at moving to Wyoming or whatever your silly treehouse movement was aiming for in 2005

          • Bill S

            .

          • powertothepeople

            we have come to expect much more in the way of a response when the hammer comes down. The “OK” took me from the edge of my seat right back into slumber land.

          • acat

            ..the response has been “no”.

            I view Bill’s approach as underscoring that, on *this* issue, heterodox views are *not* tolerated.

            Mew

          • aesthete

            We do have a drinking game, don’t we?

            Or was that just me…

          • acat

            Not a keyboard, though. Fortunately.

            “Neil says G’bye” … refill.

            Thomas Crown makes a troll cry. Drink!
            …

            Mew

          • gekster

            Jello Shot.

          • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

            Tequila.

          • gekster

            Much better.

            Do they make tequila jello shots?

          • acat

            Another moderator replies to Moe’s ban .. eat/drink tequila jello shot.

            Mew

          • earlgrey

            I think I’ll have to sit this one out.

          • acat

            After all, posters who get sloppy when they get drunk often get banned.

            Mew

          • aesthete

            a) Troll gets banned, says something in the drinking game, causing you to b) drink, which makes you say something stupid, causing you to c) get banned, which makes someone else see something in the drinking game, causing someone else to drink…

          • acat

            or .. would anyone be able to tell the difference?

            Mew

          • Bill S

            I am in favor of the haiku ban. Unfortunately I am not the creative type like Moe or T. Crown were back in our halcyon days of bannage.

          • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

            deactivated
            after
            vacuously
            egregious
            tantrum

          • Bill S

            ..

          • APA Guy

            Your RedState exit

            would cause me internal strife

            if you weren’t a turd

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Alas, even their urban English skills are lacking.

          • acat

            I may be using “tin pot despot” in the future, though. Flows better.

            Mew

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        —^—

      • jakeofalltrades

        …is that we care what other people think. It couldn’t possibly be moral disgust.

        I’m glad you’re gone.

      • aesthete

        is the mark of a deeply disturbed individual. I hope you stay far, far away not only from the terrifying blacks, but also from any white people you encounter. Americans deserve better than having to breathe the same air as you.

    • aesthete

      Of course.

      What is wrong with you people? Do you really have “rules” where you can’t be in an even with several black people for more than a few seconds? Do you really scrutinize the character of black politicians like Allen West more than that of, say, Chuck Schumer? Because Derbyshire explicitly tells you to do those things. Why is this based on income, instead of social indicators — is white trash exempt from these rules? What about Hispanics?

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        There’s been a bit of pruning this afternoon.

  • NeoKong

    Other than saying things that most white people say under their breath after they look over their shoulder.

    I could spend the whole day showing you FBI crime statistics,Dept of Education graduation statistics, literally hundreds of articles and links from just last month alone in just one city ( Chicago ) and dozens and dozens of YouTube videos that would horrify most people.
    How many flash mobs would you like…?

    I could cite black out of wedlock birth statistics, prison incarceration rates, welfare participation per capita.
    I could show you the literal square miles of abandoned neighborhoods in Detroit.
    I can show you all of that.

    The wife of the Chairman of the Judiciary, Monica Conyers went to prison for taking bribes.
    She was City Council President in Detroit.
    There are parts of Detroit that Snake Plissken would not venture into.

    But you know that already don’t you…?

    What are you afraid iof Leon…?
    That you will be labeled a racist because somebody dared to speak of the behavior that dare not be spoken of ?

    Maybe you can dispute his article and show us where he was wrong.

    Let me say what you already know Leon.
    We are going to be labeled racists anyways.
    Trying to show people that you are one of the good ones with a knee jerk condemnation is a waste of time.
    Stop running scared.
    Democrats own that human disaster. They created it.
    Not Republicans.

    It’s old news.

    Why do white Republicans quake in their boots at the thought of being called a racist when the other side not only elevates their racists but gives them their own television shows?
    They elect them to Congress as they organize together.

    The left ain’t fooling anybody.
    They mean to win the White House with racial division and that comes straight from the White House.

    If they seriously want to open that can of worms then I say make them eat the whole thing.

    • vendoc

      Where is he wrong?

      • Leon H. Wolf

        where he is wrong, other than what I have already done in the post, which is to say, “To me, the question as to whether these studies are accurate or correct is uninteresting and irrelevant ? a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong,” then you are not welcome at RedState. Full stop.

        • Wonderwoman

          I come to Red State when I want to get a heaping helping of sexism, racism, paranoia, and anti-science idiocy.

          You have seen all the ‘outrage’ here stirred up by Derbyshire’s steaming pile of poo (BTW, it seems to have been taken down over at NRO).

          If you would like to commune with people who really do get it, who actually care, and who truly believe that all human beings are created equal, might I suggest the Democratic blogs?

          As a very small example, right now over at Daily Kos, there are 5 current reader diaries about Derbyshire: “Understanding Racists,” “Forbes calls for NR to fire Derbyshire,” “Hey, National Review, you ain’t walking away from this one.” “If you see a more racist column in 2012, I will eat a bowl of what my dogs do in the yard.,” “NR writer publishes yet another racist diatribe”

          It’s all over the internets, and only on Republican sites is there any agreement.

          So, why you hanging out with racists? That’s what they are, you know. Really. No matter how many black “friends” they have in order to furnish “an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.” (quoting Derbeyshire).

          You will find more like minds even over at the low brow “Gawker”, which under the heading “Horrible People” pubbed “Racist John Derbyshire Writes Most Racist Article Possible, Pegged to Trayvon Martin Case”, in which the last line is “How can John Derbyshire even have a career?”

          And the answer, of course, is because Republicans write his paychecks. He is on what is popularly called “Wingnut Welfare,” and thus encouraged to write such stuff, until there’s too much of a kerfuffle, and his cover is blown. Which would be about now, I would suggest.

          The rest of the non-Republican world agrees with you. You are looking in the wrong place for support, and not knowing you, I have no idea why. Perhaps some soul-searching is in order? I leave it to you, your conscience, and your eternal soul. Blessings to you.

          And know that at least one reader here understand what you wrote–a reader who came here through Google, not a regular.

          • westcoastpatriette

            And hope you don’t return.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            nt

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            I have gone to Democrat blogs and they are full of the most vile hate and personal attacks I have ever seen as well as their own form of bigotry against religious people and white southerners so go to hell.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Why don’t I go sign up with a bunch of people who systematically hold the racist belief that black people can’t advance on their own merits and need the help of white liberals to succeed in society? Pass.

            Also, blam.

          • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

            Mind you, she undoubtedly checked first to make sure that you weren’t, you know, a Jew or anything.

          • tngal

            In referencing the Jewish people Moe, you brought to mind the Helen Thomas incident. Loved by all dems, and especially the O.

            When opiners such as Derbyshire and Thomas hang themselves with their own words, its kinda fun to watch. There’s a journolist somewhere just begging for their pearls of wisdom.

          • gekster

            To quote a poster here;
            “We hae been called racist for so long, it doesn’t matter anymore”.

            Oh, and can you give me any examples of Republicans being racist.
            And specifics, not opinions.

          • acat

            (musical interlude)

            Mew

          • gekster

            I like the song though. Good one.

          • avagreen

            I come to Red State when I want to get a heaping helping of sexism, racism, paranoia, and anti-science idiocy.

            *sigh*

            Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh……the open-mindedness and acceptance of others’ opinions…… is …….well………refreshing.

            Takes my breath away, it does.

            Makes me want to rush right out and become an open-minded liberal, ya know?

    • Leon H. Wolf

      People who don’t get that racism qua racism is wrong aren’t welcome at RedState, which has been policy since it’s inception in 2004. This has nothing to do with quaking in our boots about what the left will say about us, it has to do with the fact that racism is wrong, period. Good luck with your commenting career at Taki mag and Vdare. That goes for aleena and drivlikejehu as well.

      • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

        …to take some time off. Next time leave a couple for the rest of us, Leon. :)

    • honoraryintern

      Neo, Seems you are confusing the zip code of an individual with their potential.

      Do the all black inner-city ‘choice’ schools that have a 99% success in getting their kids to pass the grade level tests have any impact on your perception? My 97% white district here in Colorado is rated at only 70% in those same tests. So the blacks in those tiny islands of humanity are 30% smarter or better ?

      Do I tempt those zip codes by buying gas on the wrong side of St Louis while on a road trip? More aware now than when younger. but 3 year ago I looked up and thought, not good to be here.

      Will I help a black man when he strays into the ‘wrong’ Zip-code? Yes I’ll help anyone who’s run into trouble.

      25 years ago, I pulled up to full service pumps in the deep south with a white man attending the pumps. He was amazing, popped the hood , checked the oil. Like a time warp (in more ways than one, I found). As he was finishing and I was paying, a New Mercedes Benz with NY plates pulled up.

      The attendant turned around, his back to the car. I looked and saw a black man and woman. After 30 seconds the man got out and offered the attendant a $20, the attendant refused to acknowledge that there was anyone other than me there. The black man went to pump his gas and was sternly told the pumps were full service only, ‘Boy’. The shock on my face must have been evident. I took out my own $20 gave it to the attendant. The Black man told me not to get involved. I pumped the gas for the black man and sent him on his way. He gave me his $20 and profuse thanks.

      I was nose to nose with someone who had been raised all his life to believe that “the N word” kind of people were different, were less.

      I’ve worked with Black men and become enough of their friend to have them explain the crazy ‘N word’ black to black thing. It’s an education. 50 years of liberal social engineering have dramatically changed all those statistics cited in Derbyshire’s article, destroying the black communities.

      His IWBC swipe is just as offensive but it’s the same attitude I found at the recent County Convention. As we were waiting in line to enter the hall, on the Saturday morning, a group of suited men tried to merge into the line. I told them, I had left my suit at home and the end of the line was way back there. Argument, rights, suits vs Keen work boots. The work boots won.

      It’s our responsibility to see a person not a Zip-code or the cut of a suit or the results of a study.

      There will be real gratitude and the conflict will change to a conversation if we do.

      • glockg22shoots40s

        … not what it has “become”… to me racism is denying someone something be it a physical thing or merely an opportunity based on the color of their skin (like your gas pumper guy – that is a true racist)… to say that I avoid large concentrations of black people, whether their neighborhood or local bar, is not a racist thought. Stereotype, yeah I’ll buy that. I don’t go to biker bars either, does that make me a racist against white people?

        I own a small business, I have many black customers who are great. I have some with attitude, but guess what – so are some whites, so are some hispanics. Proportionally, there is a difference. I don’t know this Derbyshire fellow, this is my first exposure to him… maybe he is a racist, but by telling his kids to stay away from large groups of black people for their own safety isn’t racist. Sorry, it’s not. Stereotyping may be morally wrong, but more often than not – they are spot on…

        • skorrent1

          The old South and the new North, I tend to agree with you. But we’d better keep it to ourselves, lest we suffer Leon’s “blam”.

      • wintermute

        Although the anecdote about the suits cutting in line is humorous after reading your signature :-p

  • westcoastpatriette

    please

    • Leon H. Wolf

      Site has been slashdotted since yesterday and only intermittently works due to the overwhelming traffic the piece is getting. Here’s the full text of the piece:

      The Talk: Nonblack Version

      There is much talk about ?the talk.?

      ?Sean O?Reilly was 16 when his mother gave him the talk that most black parents give their teenage sons,? Denisa R. Superville of the Hackensack (NJ) Record tells us. Meanwhile, down in Atlanta: ?Her sons were 12 and 8 when Marlyn Tillman realized it was time for her to have the talk,? Gracie Bonds Staples writes in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

      Leonard Greene talks about the talk in the New York Post. Someone bylined as KJ Dell?Antonia talks about the talk in The New York Times. Darryl Owens talks about the talk in the Orlando Sentinel.

      Yes, talk about the talk is all over.

      There is a talk that nonblack Americans have with their kids, too. My own kids, now 19 and 16, have had it in bits and pieces as subtopics have arisen. If I were to assemble it into a single talk, it would look something like the following.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      (1) Among your fellow citizens are forty million who identify as black, and whom I shall refer to as black. The cumbersome (and MLK-noncompliant) term ?African-American? seems to be in decline, thank goodness. ?Colored? and ?Negro? are archaisms. What you must call ?the ?N? word? is used freely among blacks but is taboo to nonblacks.

      ?There is a talk that nonblack Americans have with their kids, too.?
      (2) American blacks are descended from West African populations, with some white and aboriginal-American admixture. The overall average of non-African admixture is 20-25 percent. The admixture distribution is nonlinear, though: ?It seems that around 10 percent of the African American population is more than half European in ancestry.? (Same link.)

      (3) Your own ancestry is mixed north-European and northeast-Asian, but blacks will take you to be white.

      (4) The default principle in everyday personal encounters is, that as a fellow citizen, with the same rights and obligations as yourself, any individual black is entitled to the same courtesies you would extend to a nonblack citizen. That is basic good manners and good citizenship. In some unusual circumstances, however?e.g., paragraph (10h) below?this default principle should be overridden by considerations of personal safety.

      (5) As with any population of such a size, there is great variation among blacks in every human trait (except, obviously, the trait of identifying oneself as black). They come fat, thin, tall, short, dumb, smart, introverted, extroverted, honest, crooked, athletic, sedentary, fastidious, sloppy, amiable, and obnoxious. There are black geniuses and black morons. There are black saints and black psychopaths. In a population of forty million, you will find almost any human type. Only at the far, far extremes of certain traits are there absences. There are, for example, no black Fields Medal winners. While this is civilizationally consequential, it will not likely ever be important to you personally. Most people live and die without ever meeting (or wishing to meet) a Fields Medal winner.

      (6) As you go through life, however, you will experience an ever larger number of encounters with black Americans. Assuming your encounters are random?for example, not restricted only to black convicted murderers or to black investment bankers?the Law of Large Numbers will inevitably kick in. You will observe that the means?the averages?of many traits are very different for black and white Americans, as has been confirmed by methodical inquiries in the human sciences.

      (7) Of most importance to your personal safety are the very different means for antisocial behavior, which you will see reflected in, for instance, school disciplinary measures, political corruption, and criminal convictions.

      (8) These differences are magnified by the hostility many blacks feel toward whites. Thus, while black-on-black behavior is more antisocial in the average than is white-on-white behavior, average black-on-white behavior is a degree more antisocial yet.

      (9) A small cohort of blacks?in my experience, around five percent?is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us. A much larger cohort of blacks?around half?will go along passively if the five percent take leadership in some event. They will do this out of racial solidarity, the natural willingness of most human beings to be led, and a vague feeling that whites have it coming.

      (10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:

      (10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

      (10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

      (10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

      (10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

      (10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

      (10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

      (10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

      (10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.

      (10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.

      (11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. ?Life is an IQ test.?

      (12) There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the black stranger will be less intelligent than the white. In such encounters, therefore?for example, at a government office?you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a white than by a black. If that hostility-based magnifying effect (paragraph 8) is also in play, you will be dealt with more politely, too. ?The DMV lady? is a statistical truth, not a myth.

      (13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I?ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

      (14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public?corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.?with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

      (15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).

      * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      You don?t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are white or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk. It will save them a lot of time and trouble spent figuring things out for themselves. It may save their lives.

      • westcoastpatriette

        Wow.

      • acat

        This was up at sweasel.com a few days ago…

        Mew

        p.s. Weasel’s commentariat are a tad more .. potty-mouthed .. than Red State’s… still, an interesting read.

  • Don T.

    I just checked in to The Corner at NRO, and there is this post by Rich Lowry, dated the evening of April 6th. He says:

    “Needless to say, no one at National Review shares Derb?s appalling view of what parents supposedly should tell their kids about blacks in this instantly notorious piece here.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295506/derbs-screed-rich-lowry

    I concur with Leon. The screed is absolutely awful and indefensible. I am a big fan of NRO, and I do think that Mr. Lowry has done the right thing, as far as it goes. I think he should have more comment on this, as to Derbyshire’s future with the website and the magazine, and an apology for the comments. I expect we’ll be hearing more from Lowry and Company, pretty soon.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      It’s insufficient. NR needs to get rid of him.

      • bk

        First he feels obligated to post a link to it in order to say the rest of NR disavows it. (No doubt they were having discussions behind the scene of what to do next.)

        Then the next day he posts that “the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer” and announces that he is fired.

        Uh, I kind of figured that “the main reason that people noticed it” was because RL posted a link to it on NRO the day before.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          It’d already been noticed by the time Lowry linked to it.

  • Don T.

    Apologies, Leon did link to that, and I skimmed over it. Reading is fundamental.

    And you are both right: NR must lead on this and completely end their association with Derbyshire. I think we’ll see this next week. But NR and the online website have been damaged with this, no question.

  • jakeofalltrades

    That was gold:

    a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong.

    I am glad my Asian-origin boss gave me a chance in spite of the fact that I am mostly caucasian.

  • mt2az

    Or rather, don’t blame just them. Derbyshire worked all over the place, and he’s being defended today all over the place. That includes here. No, not today (minus the couple banned folks up above), but I remember being thoroughly disgusted by the defense here of his panel at CPAC. And I suspect there are plenty more examples over the years before I was a reader.

    Obviously I don’t know what you’ve been emailing who, but to try and place all the blame for Derbyshire’s continued prominence on the National Review alone is a copout. I don’t know of any major figures, organizations, or publications that have spoken out publicly against him and what guys like him do to conservatism. But I know a whole lot that have, and still are, coming up with ways to defend him.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Nice, vague writing.

      • tpnoga1

        I am sorry, but why should NR be held responsible for an article published somewhere else? They didn’t publish it. I am a huge NRO fan and will continue to be one.

        Y’all are acting like a bunch of Democrats, guilt by association.

        FTR, I abhor what Derbyshire wrote. It was inexcusable. Also, it should be noted that on Twitter both Ramesh and Jonah expressed their repudiation of what Derbyshire wrote.

        • Leon H. Wolf

          Is not a Democrat tactic. It’s relevant to a person’s character whether they hang out with/give a platform to known racists, as well as whether they hang out with/give a platform to known murderers, and a number of other antisocial traits. Your fear of political correctness is causing you to beclown yourself.

          • tpnoga1

            You’re a bit nasty today?

            What, did NR turn you down for a job or something? NR had NOTHING to do with this article. Maybe, just maybe, they want to handle HR issues internally. I am sure they will make a statement after they discuss amongst themselves.

            What has happened to RedState over the past year? Y’all have become nastier and meaner the last year. I have been visiting this site for years, and it used to be pretty civil amongst conservatives. Now, you guys do nothing but bash other conservatives. Sometimes I wonder if the left didn’t take over this site just to discredit the Right.

          • tpnoga1

            Jesus hung around the harlots and tax collectors, I guess that makes him responsible for their behavior. Guilt by association is not right.

            I am not defending Derbyshire. I agree NRO should dismiss him, but to hold them responsible for what he wrote on another site is not fair.

            NR has been around since the 50′s. Heck, they pretty much started the modern conservative movement. They will survive.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Didn’t hang around with people for the sake of increasing his own web traffic. He hung around with sinners as an opportunity to preach a gospel of repentance to them.

            NR isn’t Jesus and they aren’t in the evangelism business. A valiant effort at comparing apples to elephants, though.

            And I’ve been here on the front page since 2005 so if your theory on RedState is true, the infestation began about 6 months after RedState started.

          • tpnoga1

            I know you have been around for a long time. My observation has to do with what I read. Maybe because we didn’t have real contested primaries in the past, but it appears to me that RedState (not you in particular) have become a little less civil toward fellow conservatives. It just seems odd to me. Just my opinion.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Shouldn’t be generalized to the whole site. My recollection is that it got just as nasty back in 2008. Really, I just have no patience for real, actual racists.

            I mean, I get that the left will accuse conservatives of racism for silly reasons or even no reason whatsoever. That ticks me off, too, and I try to fight against it. It irritates me, though, that people are taking that same tack with a guy who really and truly is a racist, just because. People should show some discernment.

          • tpnoga1

            Years ago I was relocated to a small southern city. On my first day, I discovered that there was overt racism among my co-workers. I was distraught and ended up quitting said job as fast as I could. I am not defending Derb at all. I find what he wrote horrible. I

          • mt2az

            Is that he’s been writing similar stuff for years, with a great many people either ignoring it, or publishing it for him. It’s not like this is new. The National Review may not have published this particular piece, but they’ve published plenty of stuff by him that’s no different from it.

          • tpnoga1

            I read NRO all the time, but I never paid attention to Derbyshire. I don’t remember him writing anything like that in NR.

            Just curious, say I have a member of my staff in some average company. Say that person writes a racist screed on his/her blog. But this person performs his/her job well and does not seem to treat other people badly. Should I fire that person? (not meant to be related to Derb, I am just curious about this question)

          • Leon H. Wolf

            is in the business of producing commentary on the Internet.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            The image and prestige of its authors is a significant part of what National Review sells.

          • tpnoga1

            I may not see it the same, but I understand.

            Have a wonderful and PEACEFUL Easter or Passover or whatever you celebrate.

        • aesthete

          a “Democrat tactic”?

        • bk

          How many more people read it because of that?

      • mt2az

        Trying to put all the blame for him on the National Review while ignoring the countless other places he’s written for and spoken at is what exactly?

    • Leon H. Wolf

      John Derbyshire has never been defended here, at least not on the front page. Quite to the contrary:

      http://www.redstate.com/thomas/2012/01/11/to-our-friends-at-the-national-review/
      http://archive.redstate.com/story/2005/12/28/21215/975
      http://archive.redstate.com/stories/archived/f_you_country_boy_jesus_freaks_need_not_apply
      http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2011/04/04/irreligion-and-irrationality-don%E2%80%99t-believe-the-hate/

      If you have some evidence otherwise please let me know. Otherwise I’ll accept your apology.

      • mt2az

        At least a couple stories defending the CPAC panel this year. It’s certainly possible that they were diaries, I never said that you or anyone else on the front page wrote them. But the fact remains that I read them here and remember well enough how bothered I was that they were here.

        • Leon H. Wolf

          But I’ll thank you to not imply that RedState has ever been a defender of John Derbyshire. It hasn’t.

          • mt2az

            I’m sure you’re more familiar with what’s been on the front page than I am.

          • APA Guy

            That’s how consequential he is to the rest of the conservative movement. But after reading the links posted here, it seems no one has much use for him…and justifiably so.

    • aesthete

      and are supposed to be a premier conservative magazine. With great association, comes great responsibility.

  • muzane

    Long-time reader. First-time commenter. I don’t always agree with what I read here at RedState. I often agree vehemently. But this post is golden, and thank you so much for taking this stand. This, in particular:

    “… a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong.”

    Is terribly, wonderfully valuable.

    Thank you.

  • Dave_A

    Folks like this give normal conservatives (who by-and-large are NOT racist – in fact most (including myself) tend to be color-blind when it comes to people’s skin)….

  • OCBill

    Screaming “Racist!” is not argument. The answer to wrong speech is more speech, right? Isn’t this exactly what the Left was doing to Rush? What Rush said was so unacceptable, that he had to be silenced. I see links various places about the laws in Britain that can fine or put people in jail for saying the things that Derbyshire said. The tone of those articles usually seems to be a preference to keep free speech, even really wrong speech. We either believe in it, or we don’t. True enough, that the right to free speech doesn’t free us from the consequences of our speech, but wouldn’t it be better to answer someone like Derbyshire by going point-by-point to show how he’s missed something, his statistics are wrong, or that he’s committing a logical fallacy of some kind. With all the brainpower at this site, at NRO, and around the web, it would be nice if someone could manage something better than pointing and screaming. It’s all too much like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

    • OCBill

      I think Derbyshire is wrong, really wrong. I think what he said should be denounced as wrong. I am less sanguine with the calls for his firing and his ouster from society. For who knows what the next “racism” will be? Homophobia, Islamophobia, support for traditional marriage, or maybe just being a believing Catholic?

      • Thomas Crown

        We are capable of drawing lines. Driving out someone who believes that his fellow humans are arguably subhuman because of a handful of different haplogroups — or Hell, because of an extra chromosome, or whatever bug is up his rear or any given day — is a just thing to do. Driving out someone for being a practicing and believing Catholic is not.

        The proper recourse for the sorts of mouthbreathers who will move seamlessly from the first to the second is laughter, argument, and more laughter. It is not to give in to, or fear, their ridiculous tendency to driving right past the logical conclusion all the way to absurdity.

        • PaladinLostHour

          “We are capable of drawing lines”. Precisely. And, as standard model human beings, moving those lines with considerable agility when it suits our purposes. That’s why we have a written Constitution, with specific impediments in place to prevent that sort of thing by government action.

          Being a fairly inventive people, we’ve discovered that those impediments do not apply to private action, however collectivist – and that is OCBill’s very real worry.

          Racism has become unacceptable in political discourse because an overwhelming number of our fellow citizens believe it to be irrational and harmful. Well…….to your specific example – I myself am a practicing, believing Roman Catholic. Or, by some lights, a person who indulges in ritualistic symbolic cannibalism once a week, led in such practice by men who obstensibly foreswear sex, but who’s leadership coddled and protected child rapists in their ranks for decades, and which denies membership in that leadership to half the human race. Further, should my wife become pregnant, and the child pose a risk to her life, I am commanded by my faith to take no action that would directly harm either. I must stand aside, and lose both by inaction – that is God’s will.

          The point is that there are narrow philosophical frameworks to characterize Catholicism as an irrational, harmful belief system; and a clear appetite among a powerful minority of the chattering class to do exactly that.

          What’s stopping them is *not* the question of ‘just’ or unjust – but numbers. There are sufficient Roman Catholics out there, public and proud of their faith, that the efforts to marginalize their participation in pubic life haven’t gotten far.

          But that doesn’t mean its not possible – nor that its appropriate to characterize as mouthbreathers folks uneasy with hammerblow rush to erase Derbyshire from the Web and the evident glee of of some long-standing antagonists.. Derbyshire is clearly over the line in his column – he’s also seriously ill with lymphoma, and has complained in print of ‘chemo brain’ during his latest round of treatment. That doesn’t excuse his rant, but it might just explain why NRO didn’t immediately can him.

    • buddha1556

      you can’t go point by point. The OP, in his own way, did point out the “logical fallacy” of the author. Statistics are a valuable tool for analyzing the past and present, but cannot be used to define the future (save for death and taxes, as the saying goes). The author takes the individual bias that we all have, throws in some statistics and produces racism.. I’m not sure there’s a more nuanced approach to take other than to call it what it is.

      • darkstar58

        If it walks like a Bear, sounds like a Bear and looks like a Bear – well, its a furry animal, and furry animals are to be cuddled!

        Don’t be one of those bigots who looks at annoying statistics to define the differences between Furry Mammals – be smart and just hug um all!

        Now I need to be on my way; going door to door selling sun-tan lotion in South Central. Got a new suit and my drop-top Beemer washed and everything for this exciting employment opportunity! I’m anticipating it will be a great success…

        • buddha1556

          so maybe we should just shoot it. See I can draw illogical conclusions too. Thinking like yours is why I fear we will never rid ourselves of racism. We’re complicated people and everyone has a story. For you to throw out some collective statistics and boil things down to the color of an individual’s skin is cringe-worthy. Your way of thinking may be “common,” but it’s anything but “sense.”

          • Bill S

            He did not choose wisely.

          • buddha1556

            Thanks.

        • jakeofalltrades

          a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong.

          • skorrent1

            In our urbanized society, we are often in a situation where it is impossible to evaluate each person, individually, “on his or her own merits”. In those situations, a knowledge of what “social science” statistics has to say about the behavior of certain groups might save you from an embarrasing, or even threatening, event. You might be better off to miss the opportunity to commune with an “Intelligent, Well-Socialized” skinhead, or biker, or muslim, or black, or SEIU member, unless it can be done on neutral territory.

          • JSobieski

            Derbyshire needed to go, but I think the topic of discussion should not be limited to merely that.

            Conservatives are really called to do two somewhat contradictory things:

            (1) treat each individual in accordance with their own INDIVIDUAL merits
            (2) acknowledge the importance of culture, social institutions, the law of the mob (the greater the number of people, the greater the capacity for the group to act in accordance with the lowest common denominator),etc. and the impacts that they CAN have on human behavior

            Libertarians ignore (2), and modern liberals largely ignore (1) despite their protestations to the contrary.

            Conservatives to our credit, don’t avoid the hard word of trying to navigate between the macro and micro, but we should acknowledge that it is a challenge.

            People of good faith can make different tradeoffs in different situations, but the building block assumptions underlying freedom and self-government fall apart when people subscribe to anything that hints of genetic predispoisition in the realm of character. That kind of dehumanizing of subgroups is conversely, a necessary building block for tyranny.

            P.S. Derb–I avoided living in Detroit not because it is run by black people, but because it is dominate by left-wing statists.

            P.P.S. Derb—using the skin color of one’s friends to socially innoculate themselves from allegations of rascism is what LIBERALS do

  • morrigan

    I guess that goes some way towards explaining why Redstate is the vibrant and important conservative resource it is.

    Time for another purge!

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      It’s steps like this that have taken conservatives all the way from irrelevant in the 50s, to being a major force of a major party today.

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        At least two of the recently departed had accounts that were long overdue–nice to see them PIF.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      Oh, sorry, was that supposed to be sarcastic?

      • Thomas Crown

        EXCEPT I CAN’T NO-TEXT.

        • acat

          of accepting donations with a specific goal of getting the no text option turned back on?

          i.e. “If Red State receives $X*, we’ll turn no-text back on” ?

          Just a thought.

          Mew

          * where X = (double the estimated cost) plus (the cost of dinner for Neil & Guest at a good Annapolis seafood place**) plus (a nice, large dollar amount determined by the powers that be to be used for the good of the conservative cause)

          ** he’s going to be involved…

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            We removed it in order to remove the need to have a core hack inserted into WordPress.

            It was the right call. It pained me to agree with it, since I was deeply involved with RS dev until this month, and I’m one of the biggest (nt) commenters, but it made a lot of sense.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    The Elders have the darnedest invisible duct tape you never saw; enough to settle him down long enough for a few of us have our own Little Talk with him. Usually takes a few months to go through the Heidelberg Catechism, but we can’t really get into the good stuff in the middle until certain implications of Unity Of The Race In Adam have been thoroughly explored, so there’s no rush.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      It had that vibe. :)

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        5) Budget item concerning electrical work in sanctuary
        6) Amendment to discipline by-laws

  • DerKrieger

    …overwhelming support over on the Blaze:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/stay-out-of-heavily-black-neighborhoods-national-review-writer-under-fire-for-racial-column/

    Most of the comments contain the same point “common sense, not racism”. I think, but am not positive, that they are referring to Derb’s points in section 10.

    I don’t read the Blaze often because of the format and the sheer number of commenters, but I don’t think it’s inhabited by racists. Do you?

    • aesthete

      Either that, or morons who have no sense of reading comprehension.

      • renl57

        …seem to be taking Derbyshire’s comments about blacks as similar to Juan Williams’s comments about Muslims.

        Perhaps because Derbyshire’s screed was only excerpted, not quoted in its entirety, they aren’t noticing the other stuff he wrote suggesting that blacks have a HERITABLE problem with violence and low intelligence.

  • darkstar58

    “To me, the question as to whether these studies are accurate or correct is uninteresting and irrelevant ? a central tenet of decency demands that every human being is entitled to be evaluated on his or her own merits regardless of what social science may say about any group (racial, cultural, religious or otherwise) to which he or she might belong,?

    That really does sum it up best – facts be damned; ignore or distance yourself from common sense reality and instead go with what feels ?right? or ?decent?. Sure, the annoying facts may point out inequality ? but if we fight hard enough, we can ignore them and instead force ?equality? to work…

    And it starts with you! So above all, don?t ever, ever, EVER profile a single sole! Make sure you treat everyone exactly the same and never look at a person with reality or common sense based observations.

    After all, a 90 year old wheelchair-bound white woman is just as much of a threat to blow up an airplane as a Muslim with a one-way plane ticket, who cant keep his hands from shaking, who is holding a bowling bag in one hand and a Koran in the other. Strip search the 90 YO white woman too; it?s the logical and decant thing to do?

    If you see a minority man with baggy pants, his boxers showing, a white “wife-beater”, a bulge under his belt and a blue bandana on – well that is quite possibly a well meaning road-scholar who will teach you valuable information about the world. Kids, make sure you talk to such people; and don?t ever, ever, ever keep your distance!

    A woman on a corner wearing next to nothing, with burns around her mouth and un-kept hair asking if you want a date? Well she is someone?s daughter, and most likely a wonderful woman one would quite possibly want to bring back home to meet the parents. Of course you accept the date; it might mean marriage!

    A man knocks on your door with a bandana across his face and his arm behind his back ? well, the world is inherently good and so he is probably just cold with a possible sprained wrist; feel free to open up!

    I mean really, if it looks like a bear and growls like a bear, the only thing you should really recognize is that it?s an animal – and animals are to be cuddled! Don?t be one of those bigots who see the differences in animals; be a good person and embrace them all!

    Life is so much better when we don?t factor in the ever so annoying results of studies, statistics and tendencies ? treat everyone and everything exactly the same, you?ll end up with a much better life?

    Likewise, the Left was right to call for Juan Williams to be fired for having personal feelings based off documented statistics; what a racist he clearly is for refusing to ignore reality! Likewise, Rush is clearly a horrible man for putting two and two together and coming up with 4! But where they were so horrible for making assumption remarks based off quick deductions, Derbyshire is even worse for doing it with an endless supply of data to back him up!

    Clearly, the more documentation of fact to use to support your feeling, the more evil you truly are?

    • Bill S

      …at spelling and misuse of homophones.

    • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

      I can’t … wait, actually I can look.

    • DerKrieger

      …a road-scholar. Only we called it Drivers Ed back in the day.

    • renl57

      …that the propensity to jihad is genetically based.

      • naraht

        At least from what I’ve seen, converts to Islam are *more* likely to be a violent Islamic extremist than someone who is the descendant of 4 or more generations of Muslims…

  • zachv

    … and I completely agree with Leon. If I ran NR, I’d under-the-bus this man in an instant. No need to associate yourself with writers such as Mr. Derbyshire.

  • ctmommy

    but if you click on some of the links in the original piece it is hard to argue with some of the facts he presents. I didn’t click on all of them, and I’m guessing there are some pretty questionable ones, but really, with all the blatant racism we get from the other side, I’m finding it hard to get outrageously outraged here. And I could definitely see myself giving my kids some of the same advice. For instance, stay the hell out of Sanford, FL.

    • aesthete

      are the problem here.

      BTW, Sanford, FL is a majority-white/Hispanic town, dude.

  • aesthete

    To all of the editors at RS, thank you for continuing to take a hard line against racists — it’s simply horrific that some conservatives are so blase about out-and-out racism in this, or any, day and age.

  • kowalski

    Racism as perceived danger built upon the stilts that Derbyshire resorts to isn’t limited to Conservatives or Republicans, by the way.

    When I lived in Chicago one of the things I did to supplment my income from time to time was visit the homes of professors to assist them with their computer woes, kind of presaging the “Geek Squad” business model. I was referred by various people I knew, all of them liberals.

    One night in particular stands out. I had visited the home of a professor who lived in Evanston to help install a newfangled device called a DVD-ROM drive on the home computer and fix a few other problems with the home network. I took the Purple Line el to the Foster stop to get there and was picked up in an SUV when I got to Evanston, went to the Professor’s home, and worked on the computers successfully. By the time I was finished it was around 11:00 at night. I was paid in cash, but by that time the Purple line was no longer operating, so I couldn’t take it back to the Red line stop to get home from the Foster stop.

    I needed to be driven back a bit south to the Howard Red Line conjunction. The professor and I got in the SUV and we drove there.

    We were in the middle of a nice conversation about the computers and the work and her plans for the next week when we approached the Howard station at 7519 North Paulina and, about a block before we got to the station, she pulled over and stopped the SUV.

    “Thank you so much for coming tonight. I’ll be in touch next week if we have any questions.”

    I was nearly blown out of my seat. She stopped the SUV and wanted to dump me out on the curb because a few hundred feet ahead, there were a bunch of people milling around the entrance to the station, most of them Black. I didn’t care particularly about that; what was more interesting was that SHE felt the need for me to get out of the car right then and there.

    So I said: “Can you drive me the rest of the way to the station? It’s right over there.”

    A very long pause ensued.

    “I’m not going any farther.”

    I got out of the car, walked to the station, said “hi” to anyone who asked, got on the train, went home and NEVER SPOKE TO HER AGAIN.

    This was a professor who would be — believe me — terribly, terribly ashamed if I mentioned her name in connection with that event. Couldn’t be more liberal than this one. She was terrified of driving me the rest of the way to the El stop with a bunch of Black guys hanging out there and decided, I guess: “Better him than me.”

    So I don’t want to HEAR it any more. I’ve lived it, watched it and seen it, and from some of the biggest and loudest Liberals in the world.

    • kowalski

      Northwestern University. And within 10 seconds of getting out of the SUV, she had turned around and DISAPPEARED.

      I shook my head, took out my CTA card and walked into the station, went through the turnstile with $200 in cash in my pocket and never thought twice about it. One guy looked at me while I walked up to the station and I said: “Hey, what’s up?” and I had no problems, which I expected.

      What I *didn’t* expect was the pure, abject fear she exhibited to driving me the last few hundred feet and dropping me off at the station. I guess she figured she was going to be carjacked by all those people with darker skin hanging around outside the station.

      • acat

        are emotion-driven, not reason-driven.

        Mew

        • kowalski

          We were getting close to the station and when we turned the corner, evidently some kind of circuit breaker tripped in her head and she immediately pulled the SUV over and ‘gently suggested’ I get out and of course I had no option.

          Actually I remember being more worried by her fear than I was by anything else. I’d ridden the El late at night into and out of Hyde Park, also, this was my “northside professor who needed help.”

          What it showed to me more than anything else is that brain rot is brain rot. Was it marginally more dangerous for me to be walking into that station at 11:30 at night than it would have been during the bright daylight hours? Probably. But I wasn’t afraid of doing it because of the *race* of people who were there. She was very afraid of both – you had to be there to witness the almost instant change of mood and her facial features when I tried to insist she drive me the rest of the way to the station.

          I’d been on the El late at night many times and, as there are in any big city, there were a few times I’d been a little worried, but what it looked to me that night at the Howard station was a few kids and a couple of older adults, a few of whom were waiting for other people to get home, nothing at all to be worried about. It was warm, there were a few kids and a handful of adults and what really struck me was how *unworried* I was, contrasted with how *worried* she was.

          And by the way I think Bill Cosby is being a knucklehead with his comments today and I’ll have a longer post about that.

          While I lived in Chicago, I can comprehensively say that I was more afraid of white people as a white person, and more disgusted, ultimately, too. But everyone should be able to defend themselves.

          • BillC

            I took the red line to Sox games. (95th street to 35th.) Never were there any white people on that train besides myself and my friends. I also never took that train at night.

            I assuming that you were bigger than the professor that gave you a ride. Women have to be more careful than men and I am willing to give her a pass on this because, according to your story, she never expressed a racist POV. She might just be a afraid of groups of men of low socio-economic status. Maybe she had been sexually assaulted in the past. We don’t know.

          • kowalski

            The entire El Stop, before we even got there.

  • jomo2009

    Derbyshire is out at National Review. Good riddance!

    • ThePoliticalHat

      NRO makes it official here:

      http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295514/parting-ways-rich-lowry

      Any news on Derbyshire’s reaction?

    • RSSS

      it probably won’t make it past moderation, but at least they’ll see it. I asked them to scrub their site of all his podcasts. As of now they are still up.

      • PaladinLostHour

        Are you suggesting they vanish everything the man has ever written or spoken, on any topic, down the memory hole. ?

        What purpose (outside of satisfying a fundamentally emotional, bordering on fascist, impulse) does it serve to demand the wholesale eradication of Derbyshire’s work from NRO?

        • RSSS

          nt

          • PaladinLostHour

            “In his best-selling Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg wrote:

            Like the editors of the old Soviet encyclopedias who would send out updates to instruct which pages should be torn out, American liberalism has repeatedly censored and rewritten its own history so that the “bad guys” were always conservatives and the good guys always liberals.”

            Not a model I’d care to emulate; and the historical fact is – Derbyshire happened. The man should be sanctioned, but there is something repeIlent and yes, Fascist, in pushing to purge *all* his work – whether it speaks to race, mathematics, or travelouges to China.

          • RSSS

            It’s about including or excluding content on a website, not trying to rewrite any kind of history. Therefore, the fascism label doesn’t work.

  • ThePoliticalHat

    I believe that any genetic or ingrain differences between “the races” are non-trivial and not particularly important.

    Derbyshire’s basic premise is that he believes that there is a statistical difference of the average between races, and that those differences are real, ingrain, and non-trivial.

    While there may be statistical differences between groups based on race, race is but a often far too easy to use proxy. I don’t think Derbyshire is full of hate, as his article states that there are both smart and dumb, rational and crazy, &c. individuals of all races. He errs in asserting that the differences between the averages of the races is genetically based.

    Ironically, this is similar to a mild for of what the left fully believes in: That there is a difference between the races. Just look at Critical Race Theory, which dispenses with averages and just reduces everything to just race. They hate “whiteness” and believe that white people necessarily act different because of that, and that consequently people of the same race must think alike, lest they be though of as race traitors. While Derbyshire limits himself with statistical differences of averages, the left that is howling for his blood are far more biased and hateful.

    Derbyshire believed that the idea that people of different races were different because of their race was common and actually the normal view for the vast majority of cultures and societies, and that the idea that there is no ingrain difference of any trivial degree was abnormal and would not hold. The left is actually trying to achieve a racial/gender/orientation goal similar to that, while many if not most on the right are trying to protect that rare and possibly fleeting idea that there are things that far eclipse that.

    Unlike the left, Derbyshire did not believe in using the government to impose his view (and he supported equal treatment by the government), he did not want to rebuild society according to his views, and he didn’t build a transformative overarching dogma around that. He was wrong, but innocuous in comparison with the left.

    This will not end well.

    • ThePoliticalHat

      Meant to say:

      “between ‘the races’ are NOT non-trivial”

    • renl57

      An example of a real genetic difference between races is this: People of African descent are more likely to be born with sickle-cell anemia than people of European descent.

      Because sickle-cell anemia seems to confer partial immunity to malaria (which was always a big problem in tropical Africa), scientists believe that sickle-cell anemia was an adaptation to enable more Africans to survive malaria pandemics.

      So what about African-Americans?

      Here in the West, malaria was eradicated a long time ago.

      And sure enough, the incidence of sickle-cell anemia among African-Americans is starting to decline. Evidently that adaptation, no longer needed to protect against malaria, is dying out. Plus a lot of African-Americans have white ancestors (including Obama himself), which is also helping to remove the sickle-cell genes from the African-American gene pool.

      But all that’s entirely different than what Derbyshire was talking about.

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        That’s a specific genetic trait.

        There is no ‘black gene’ the way there is a sickle cell gene.

        • westcoastpatriette

          Principles transcend race. And that is what our message should be about and what really makes America great. And people of all races who succeed in America get that.

          • westcoastpatriette

            Always looking for the victims and harping on and on about fairness and blaming everyone but themselves for their problems. Whine, whine, whine. And Obama is a master at it. I hope Americans have had enough. I sure have.

            It’s as if Obama has unleashed a whole host of evil on the land since he took office…stirring up the past like a rotten corpse. Demonizing America and finding victims that don’t exist. The only thing he has succeeded at is bringing out the most evil elements in the culture so they can all join hands in demonizing the country and profit from it while they can. Not a patriotic bone in their bodies. Uuuuuugh!

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            ‘Race’ is not a scientific concept. It’s 19th century nonsense on the order of phrenology.

            Skin color is as meaningless as head bumps.

          • garfieldjl

            Skin pigmentation has nothing to do with intelligence, skin pigmentation has to do with where your ancestors were from.

            The darker skin pigmentation has to do with the fact that Africa is closer to the equator, there is a lot more exposure to sunlight and the darker pigmentation helps protect people from developing skin cancer. Then there is another factor people fail to consider, would you dress up in a parka in Florida in the middle of summer? I wouldn’t unless I was working in the Penguin exhibit in a zoo.

            Europeans came from a climate that got less sun (particularly the further North you go), was a lot colder, etc. The light skin pigmentation is to maximize exposure for production of Vitamin D.

  • sparks69

    I have read the ?advice? and find that instead of being given to children it should be mandatory reading to the reporters covering the Grand Jury findings (should Zimmerman be exonerated of any wrongdoing) if they exhibit some other racial profile than the one of the young deceased black man. Derbyshire?s rant is certainly unfit for dissemination to the bandwidth but I cannot help think that exactly that same frame of reference is repeated in many households with no bias other than to explain the proximity of situational danger.
    I have been the chaparone of students in third world countries, I have NRA teaching credentials to include ?Personal Protection,? and I have worked as body guard to many celebrities and politicians. I have heard and have been given incredible amounts of rational advice that in some instances certainly prevented injury and possibly, in some instances, death. The advice given by Derbyshire is sound save for his propensity to single out a distinct racial element- it is the environment you have to watch not the ethnic component. The vile associations he levels serve no real purpose but to inflame. Read it again and leave out the singular reference and substitute a situational reference such as crime rate, violent incidents, lighting, language, mores, folkways, or economic strata ? certainly something different than the blatant profiling he references. Even a rant can prove useful, and even a racist can provide some valuable information.

  • septembergurl

    I assumed this was a lame and unfunny attempt at satire by Derbyshire (a writer I’m not familiar with tho I have seen his name on NRO), laying out what the white equivalent of “The Talk” would be.

    We get to point #11 and we are suddenly reading the pseudo-scientific rantings of a white supremacist, raving about the DMV lady and the government and some obscure math prize…he’s like Capt Queeg with the strawberries, it’s an obsession. Ugh.

    Rich Lowry has done the right thing.

  • deVere

    It’s Easter this weekend, so it is symbolically appropriate for someone else to be crucified for telling the very disagreeable truth.

    Clearly if any of us were walking down the street, heard footsteps, turned, and saw Magic Johnson behind us, we would be very pleased at the unexpected opportunity to meet a well-respected celebrity. So as Derbyshire suggests it is only in the absence of information about an individual that we fall back on statistical profiling.

    However some of what Derbyshire writes is just gratuitously impolite. I note that no woman has ever won the Fields medal, and I wonder if Mr. Derbyshire would like to discuss that matter at length with Mrs. Derbyshire. I don’t think he’d enjoy that conversation at all.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      I had been quoting that quote the past few days myself, bravo again and below is my first one on the Zimmerman matter and latest (on flexible natural born liberal democrat presidents or Moose and squirrel meet The Manchurian Candidate):

      http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2012/04/01/monobamachromatic-soul-searchings-miss-jfks-moral-issue-as-old-as-the-scriptures/

      http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2012/04/06/with-flexible-natural-born-democrats-like-obama-who-needs-a-manchurian-candidate/

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      When I was a teenager some 30 years ago, I was mugged by while walking home one Saturday night from my church to my home. The 5 strangers who accosted me all happened to be black, hanging out drinking. I figured out later that at least one of them was in my High School. As Barack Obama would say, he’d look like him.

      Attending College in the big city made me more than aware of the life-and-death stakes of not being in wrong place or near the wrong crowd, ie dont be alone in a bad neighborhood (where ‘bad’ invariably would be mostly poor, black, urban). This was the time of the infamous “wilding” Central Park attack, and I lived by a bar when attending college that had a shooting and its share of ‘incidents’.

      My wife had her college decision made for her, when her attempt to visit U of Chicago was interrupted by a carjacking attempt and having a gun pulled on her. Safer UI champaign-urbana for her.

      It was said in those days (the 1980s) that a “neo-conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged”.

      Our emotional and rational minds are built to help us survive through the use of patterns and generalizations. We fear snakes, even garter snakes. If Jesse Jackson and I engage in the Situational Safety profiling, and unlike the TSA realize that little old ladies are less of a threat than other demographic groups like young black males, is that racist or just common sense? Or both?

      Whichever it is, most of us do it. You can get the Talk, or you can have the Experience. Both will teach you.

      • aesthete

        Is it, “these are things you can do to avoid danger”, or is it, “these are superficial characteristics that identify people who you can and should see as subhuman”?

        Because Derbyshire’s “Talk” runs towards the latter.

        • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

          You know what’s funny:
          The Talk that black parents supposedly tell their black teenaged sons is: Be Polite to Policeman.

          As if that has a racial component to it. Huh?
          Duh, that’s what we tell our own kids as well. And I pretty much figured that out for myself when getting stopped, almost put in jail, etc. etc. in my ‘salad days’.

          I can’t imagine any talk that remotely discusses avoiding carnivals with too many of ‘those folk’.

          • aesthete

            It’s troubling that Derbyshire can. Appropriate comeuppance for one of Derbyshire’s ilk would be for one of his children to date and marry an intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and wonderful human being… who also happened to be black.

          • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

            in light of Daddy’s tone, that they were not functioning as one of his amulets?

        • PaladinLostHour

          seems the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. From his website profile of his father:

          http://www.johnderbyshire.com/FamilyHistoryJD/People/Father/page.html

          “Towards non-white peoples, Dad’s attitudes were primitive. Black people he regarded with loathing and contempt, as subhuman. “

        • flguy

          Derby is implying that there is a higher rate of problems, i.e. crime, violence, illiteracy, etc. in the ‘black community’ because there are blacks in it. The truth is that, if there is more crime, violence, and illiteracy in the so-called ‘black communities,’ it is not because they are filled with blacks, but perhaps because they are poorer. Poorer white communities have more illiteracy and crime that wealthier white communities. It’s the same for any group/race/ethnicity. If there is more crime, etc. in the black communities than in the white communities,perhaps it is only because there is more poverty there on average than in corresponding white communities. Why and how poverty seems to lead to more social problems is another topic entirely, though lack of opportunities is definitely part of the problem.

          For example, in both white and black households where there is reading material, such as books, newspapers, magazines, etc., the children in those households tend to make better grades in school, whether they be white, black, hispanic, asian, or whatever. Derby sees the problems in the black community as being a result of them being black because he is a racist.

          To attribute the problems in any community to the racial makeup of that community is to totally misunderstand how humanity works, and Derby’s article shows his ignorance. Not only is blather such as Derby’s article just plain wrong and racist, but talk like his actually hinders our ability to treat the actual problem in poorer communities, a problem not involving race, but involving a lack of opportunity.

          I saw a great program of Glen Beck on FoxNews a year or so back, where an inner-city school that was predominantly black was failing miserably in all ways academically. New leadership came in, made huge changes such as instituting a dress code, hiring more qualified teachers, etc. The change in student grades was incredible! It wasn’t a racial problem that they had, it was socio-economic problems that were keeping those kids from succeeding!

          Hate is taught; children are not naturally born racists. When I was a kid in a poor neighborhood (we all lived in trailers/mobile homes), I had neighbors who were white, black, Philippino, Thai, etc. We all played together just great. When you’re a kid and you want to play, you don’t care what the other kid looks like or what his race or religion are, you just want someone to play with. That was our neighborhood, and we were a bunch of poor southerners in north Florida. People think all Southerners must be racists, but we’re not. Derby would not have been very welcome in our neighborhood.

          • http://parsoned.blogspot.com parsoned

            Culture matters. Whether it’s the macro-culture, the sub-culture, or the micro-culture, it matters. Our values, our personal standards, our family atmospheres…they all matter.

            That Debyshire’s racist rant highlighted some of the legitimate defects of the broader Black American culture should not bother us. It’s in any agreement with those defects being inherent to being a Black American rather than simply inherent to being human.

  • runner12

    The most vile portions were in the section 10 area. Not only are the comments racist, it sets a dangerous precedent of claiming to use “science” to make judgements and generalizations about entire groups of people. The most disturbing part (one of them) is how coldly and matter-of-factly he wrote these racist comments. It made me kind of ill.

    Some of the people above who are trying to defend Derbyshire need to ask themselves how they feel when Leftists trash Conservatives and Christians make false assumptions about us. It is wrong, unpleasant and rightly condemned.

    I just am astounded that anyone would defend these statements by Derbyshire. I am glad to see that NRO has finally done the right thing and let him go.

    • deVere

      “(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense …”

      It seems correct to me. In fact I’ll bet that you do it also in real life. It’s just not “politically correct” to so bluntly write it.

      For many years one of the finest reporters in the Middle East has been Khaled Abu Toameh of the Jerusalem Post, and now Senior Advisor of the Hudson Institute. Do I respect and trust what Mr. Toameh writes? Yes. Do I anticipate that I will think likewise about the writings of other Palestinian Muslim journalists? No. It’s always possible, but it’s not particularly likely.

      I think political correctness is out of control, and has become a serious threat to our society.

      • runner12

        From 10a to 10i. Can you honestly say that it is not racist to suggest that we teach our kids to avoid theme parks when a large number of blacks are there? Give me a break.

        This outrageous language hinders us from having honest discussions about the crime that pervades minority and poor white communities. I despise the overly politically correct culture that exists nowadays. But this is NOT about political correctness, it is racism plain and simple. Advising people to avoid places where a certain ethnic group congregates based on the color of their skin is racist.

        When I evaluate people on the street with regards to my safety, I look at two things: how they are dressed and how they are acting. If I see a sleezed out drunk white guy, he is going to creep me out. It is not based on his skin color, but on how he is acting.

        • deVere

          Actually most poor white communities, as you call them,, are lacking in high crime rates. Witness the conspicuously low crime index for the Johnstown, PA metropolitan area, which by almost any definition is a “poor white community”:

          http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime4.aspx

          Note that economically depressed Johnstown has only a slightly higher crime index than wealthy Stamford/Norwalk and middle-class Danbury.

          In my opinion it is not race that accounts for differences in crim e rates, nor economic prosperity or the lack of it, but rather deeply ingrained cultural differences between people who frequently happen also to be of different races.

          So I now observe that there is not only a serious problem of political correctness, but also a problem of imaginary invented facts to support the politically correct attitudes.

          As to what we advise our children, we advise them to be prudent. What every parent most dreads is having to bury a child.

          • runner12

            is so high in the rural, mostly white towns in my state? My only point is that the crime abounds in communities is due more to culture, as you correctly stated, than race.

            The problem is that was not what Derbyshire was advocating. As aesthete pointed out below, had he commented on black culture and correlated high crime to the attitudes within the culture, it would be different.

            But he labeled all blacks in a certain way based on genetics and skin color. That is racism, pure and simple. As to teaching our kids to be prudent, we can do that without teaching them to be racist.

            I would be interested in your defense of his points 10a-10i, since you failed to respond to the one I stated. Additionally, I would argue that we judge people to be unsafe more on their appearance and behavior rather than skin color. At least I do.

      • The_Rebel

        “statistical common sense”.

        If Lowry or Derbyshire had said what Jesse Jackson did say at a 1993 Operation PUSH convention, they would both be fired instantly:

        ?There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery ? then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.?

        There is nothing here that could possibly be taken out of context, despite protestations to the contrary. Some, but far from all, of what Derbyshire said are logical extensions of what Jackson said.

        • aesthete

          I guarantee you that if Derbyshire had said that “black culture” (which is really just modernized “cracker culture” , h/t T Sowell) was responsible for these differences, conservatives would have defended him. Heck, I would have defended him!

          He didn’t. He chalked it up to genetics, and labelled all blacks that way — then he sociopathically recast blacks who have moved away from these social maladies as luxury items that should be sought after by whites so that they can act in a more racist fashion without public reprisal.

          It’s like the difference between being critical of Israel’s government for various reasons, and being a critic of same because Zionists control the world.

          • glockg22shoots40s

            Really??? while there are many racial tones to the article he wrote, it isn’t a blanket classification of black people to be “criminal”…

            —-
            “They come fat, thin, tall, short, dumb, smart, introverted, extroverted, honest, crooked, athletic, sedentary, fastidious, sloppy, amiable, and obnoxious. There are black geniuses and black morons. There are black saints and black psychopaths. In a population of forty million, you will find almost any human type.”
            —-

            Don’t get me wrong, not really defending the guy as from comments read through here it does appear he is quite the racist. I just was thinking you were embellishing a bit here.

          • http://parsoned.blogspot.com parsoned

            “He didn?t. He chalked it up to genetics, and labelled all blacks that way ? then he sociopathically recast blacks who have moved away from these social maladies as luxury items that should be sought after by whites so that they can act in a more racist fashion without public reprisal.”

            That was what made me recoil the most…

      • http://www.theantliberalzone.com GunnyG

        simply because it is, the truth.

        Having grown up in Oakland and Richmond California, I can tell you with 100% certainty, Derbyshire was dead on.

        • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

          But somehow I doubt it’s going to matter much to you in the near future.

        • powertothepeople

          and having grown up in the deep south, you uneducated trailer dwellers was almost enough to swear off all the people below the Mason Dixie Line. Almost did it till I realized doing that would prevent me from going to the greatest school in the country and watching their football games. So because of the gamecocks, I am stuck dwelling in a state with a few POS such as yourself.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            Just as many. Or do you want to try to convince me that all those knock about guys in Joisy and NaYawk don’t use the N word regularly.

          • renl57

            In 1974, the hate coming from some white Bostonians towards the black kids being bused into their neighborhoods was as bad as anything you used to see in the South.

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            He over-generalizes about a whole group of people because he really really dislikes people who over-generalize about a whole group of people.

            Having lived in both places, I’ve found more racism in Massachusetts than Texas myself, even among those who joke about those bible-thumpin’ hicks who are supposedly so backward. Go figure.

  • tnguy

    Appears so.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/walter-e-williams/2012/04/01/walter-williams-column-profiling-and-trayvon-martin-case

    Twelve years ago, a black Washington, D.C., commissioner warned cabbies, most of whom were black, against picking up dangerous-looking passengers. She described “dangerous-looking” as a “young black guy … with shirttail hanging down longer than his coat, baggy pants, unlaced tennis shoes.” She also warned cabbies to stay away from low-income black neighborhoods. Did that make the D.C. commissioner a racist?

    In some cities, such as St. Louis, black pizza deliverers have complained about having to deliver pizzas to certain black neighborhoods, including neighborhoods in which they live. Are they racists? The Rev. Jesse Jackson once remarked, “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery ? (and) then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” Does that make the reverend a racist?

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/walter-e-williams/2012/04/01/walter-williams-column-profiling-and-trayvon-martin-case#ixzz1rPjOY18s

    • aesthete

      on genetic factors, and if they don’t apply their own judgement equally in contexts where other races could easily present the same threat.

      There are some white neighborhoods in large cities, and Asian neighborhoods in the West Coast, that it’s not a good idea to enter.

      There are non-black politicians (I’d say the majority) who are just as untrustworthy and prone to demagogue as black politicians.

      Large crowds of unsavory folk showing up all of a sudden should always raise one’e hackles.

      The race issue is a red herring, and tying it to genetics as Derbyshire has in the past is just awful. IIRC, his explanation for why he married his Asian wife was given on explicitly eugenicist grounds. It’s disturbing that in the modern era, with so much information at our fingertips about people and regions, some still rely on a person’s melanin content rather than other things to make good judgements.

      • renl57

        There are some Americans who mistakenly stereotype all Asian-Americans as peaceful, intelligent, industrious, law-abiding. This is the flip side of Derbyshire’s stereotypes.

        But there are plenty of exceptions to that stereotype too.

        I live in a community that has a lot of Cambodian-Americans. And it’s a high crime area. I’ve had first responders admit to me that many of those people are just shiftless and lawless. I have occasion to drive right through those areas. And frankly, some of those young Asian toughs I see lounging around do scare me.

        But I don’t attribute their behavior to their genes.

        In that sense, I’m more like Juan Williams who gets worried if he sees a bunch of young Muslim men board an airliner simultaneously. He’s right to be worried. But neither he nor anyone else claims that the propensity to jihad is genetically based.

  • deVere

    Than America could elect its second black President, and whoever won we would sleep very well.

  • J. Leg

    I honestly wish we could do the same thing in the conservative movement… ban racists. While the media has falsely accused real tried and trued conservatives of being recasts, there has been an increase in out and out racists trying to tie themselves to what we stand for since Obama got elected.

    Memo to them: We do not oppose Obama because he is black, we oppose Obama because he is a liberal.

    I maintain that the VAST majority of people in the US and conservatives are not racist, but it’s good we’re doing whatever we can to expose the true racists so we can shun them. Every organization needs a good old fashioned colonic every once and a while.

    Had I followed this moron Derbyshire’s advice I would be missing out on some of the most valuable friendships and relationships I have in my life.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    but that’s always and solely from some combination of severe myopia, intermittent dysnomia, hypoglycemia and absentmindness*, which form a terrifying image of what one of my church friends, students or neighbors might say if I forget their name–which I do regularly with no correlation to melanin level. I have developed a cheerily-mumbled “Hey, brother Mbpfson!” that often works as a failsafe, but it’s quite embarassing when my blind daughter, who often accompanies on store runs (she worries that I’ll get distracted and lost on the way home), later reminds me who it really was that we spoke to. Compensation has occasionally come, though, when I have targeted complete strangers and been rewarded with a genuine, if puzzled, smile.

    * If you care to visit, I’d love to show you the spot where I was so entranced, years ago, with a pocket-sized condensation of the Institutes that I almost stepped in front of the #3 bus.

  • blackgriffin

    Wow, you’re really reacting with hysteria, aren’t you? Anyone who gives a whiff of not thinking Derbyshire is a racist for what he wrote is a bad, bad person to you. Okay, here goes: Nothing he said is racist, it’s true. An ugly truth is still truth. The fact that it makes you angry doesn’t change that. I’ve experienced nearly everything he’s listed in several places across this country. While there are some blacks who don’t behave this way, my experience has been that most black Americans are filled with rage and hatred toward whites, any white, every white, simply because they are white. From what I’ve been reading on comments on other sites, and ever here, most white Americans know this. Only some of us will say it. John Derbyshire is one who did, and typically, he was punished for it. Shame on NRO and anyone who thinks they did the right thing.

    • aesthete

      because they are objectively genetically inferior, such that they can be judged on racial (rather than social or behavorial) outward features? Do you think that white politicians warrant less scrutiny than black ones? Do you believe that the primary purpose that successful blacks serve to whites is as an amulet to deflect accusations of racism? Do you see blacks as sometimes-useful commodities when they are domesticated by whites, and as dangerous in all other contexts? Do you think that resentment of successful blacks is either healthy or the default position among whites?

      Because Derbyshire does in the OP you’re defending — and if you agree with him, you certainly have no place on this site, or in a country which has battlefields that are littered with the corpses of Americans who died on account of the stubbornness and inhumanity of people who agreed with you and yours.

      • http://parsoned.blogspot.com parsoned

        That Debryshire wrote racist bunk is true. That you think the WBTS was fought because of racism is not…

        • aesthete

          lie in the “peculiar institution” and the South’s tenacity in maintaining and expanding it.

          Put simply, the Union fought for reunification, and the CSA fought for slavery. There would not have been a war without slavery as a primary agitator.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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  • trelane

    It’s a bit disheartening to see Derb defended on so many conservative forums, but great to see the Redstate admins taking a no tolerance approach to this. Looks like you guys had him pegged long before I did!

    • flguy

      Agreed, trelane.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    We have lots of people who are super interested in being edgy and non-PC. So interested that they can’t tell the difference between non-PC and racism. I wish them the best of luck with that… Somewhere else.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      Being edgy, non-PC etc. is less important than being on-target, correct, and civil, in the sense of “Speak the truth in love.” Since Derbyshire was none of those, it’s right to call him out on it and condemn his errors.

      Some of our side hesitate to engage in full-fledge immolations for fear it ‘helps’ the other side to in effect kowtow to the left’s definition of acceptable discourse, their way of bending the debate to their benefit. Folks like WFB long ago figured out that defining ourselves is also about the health of the conservative movement; throwing out the trash is hygienic.

      One of the annoyances of being a conservative, is to see a profusion of prejudices expressed, often by liberals who insist they hate ‘racism’, and be held to the double standard where offensive things can be said by ‘edgy’ liberals but not conservatives. Consider the recent Limbaugh boycott attempt and related statements by Maher and others that showed, wait a sec, more ‘edgy’ and offensive statements than anything Rush said. And no, the DNC never did return Maher’s $1 million and he still has his gig, because, well, HBO is ‘edgy’. Whatever.

      Some prejudices are more acceptable than others, and some people (liberals) can more leeway than others (conservative), so much so that our own president will play the ‘race card’ at the slightest provocation but then engage in the soft bigotry of low esteem for bitter-clinger Americans from small towns.

      So mysogynistic rappers get White House invites and Micheal “Jesusland” Moore and MSNBC can spew profane and obscene slurs with abandon, and Occupy types can print up “Kill the Rich” T-shirts because, well, they can. After all, they are only going after priveleged-Americans.

      It goes beyond mere words. a law prof is getting denied a professorship in Iowa, due 100% to the current bias and prejudice against conservatives on campus by liberal profs. If only she were a non-conservative, we might get NOW and the ACLU involved.

      Any such act in the double standard is reminder of what William James once said:
      “Often what passes for thinking is a re-arrangement of our prejudices”.

      Complaining about the terrain or the double standard is pointless, but it’s helpful to acknowledge it.

      • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

        The punchline to my long comment:
        It’s only in policing our own that we can gain the right to even point out the double standard.
        That is to say – if our side has no standards, we have no right to insist the other side has any as well.

    • flguy

      Leon, it looks like many did go ‘somewhere else,’ and I was one of the few sane people to post on that other site. I cringed when I read what was posted there, though I do think that many of the posters were simply liberal trolls, as I did not recognize many of the screennames used. Still, it is very sad to see so many conservatives loving the edgy, non-PC banner so much as to forego both common sense and truth.

      I’ve never been called PC, and there isn’t a liberal bone in my body, and I totally concur with your assessment of Mr. Derby’s article. He is not only a racist, but an ignorant racist as well. Actually, that’s redundant, so nevermind.

  • DerKrieger

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-of-white-man-being-stripped-and-beaten-outside-baltimore-courthouse-sparks-outrage-on-the-internet/

  • DerKrieger

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/police-arrest-2-suspects-in-oklahoma-shootings/

  • oldmom2

    I agree with you 100% .

    I spent a bit of time reading comments on a few other websites that were defending the racist screed. I felt shame, anger and disgust for most of them.

    So glad to know you will not tolerate racism here at Redstate.

  • renl57

    …actually live by your principles.

    What the heck are you doing in politics? :-)

  • Scope

    you deserve the peace that has come over you Mike. You apparently lived a very tortured life, and finally that torture is over for you. As Fox commerates your great and wonderful life, as the true journalist you have been called, and as one that many claim you were their worst enemy. When Mike Wallace shows up on your doorstep, you are going to have a bad day. Rest in Peace old Mikey.

    “Many Soviets viewing the current chaos and nationalistic unrest under Gorbachev look back almost longingly to the era of brutal order under Stalin.”
    Mike Wallace, 2/11/90

    Rest in peace from some really tortured ideas.

  • macbookben

    …delightful and instructive?

  • freedom555

    I’m a male White Southerner of a certain age, currently 55, who is an absolute magnet for Racists.

    Over the years I’ve been amazed and disgusted by the number and types of other whites who have shared with me their nastiest opinions of blacks.

    YES, obviously to them I look like someone who would share their opinions—-so I also feel like a victim of their (inclusive) racial stereotyping.

    I’m a good listener too so I’ve heard some stories of discrimination and sabotage that have enlightened me as to just what our fellow Black Americans have dealt with.

    Derbyshire disgusts me because he presents his racist views as some sort of product of his Conservative Reasoning Process.

    His racism is anti-intellectual. Yet a man of his pretensions has to search for reasons to justify his primitive thinking.

    Not all racists are stupid. Derbyshire certainly isn’t stupid. But somehow the brighter ones and the more common ignoramuses , all seem to embrace the same self-serving and twisted logic….and keep comfort in ignorance.

    Thanks Leon, for helping to cull the racists from The Cause.

  • davet

    NR fires its one writer who ISN’T promiscuously bashing Muslims for “intolerance”–it figures. And then Leon H. Wolf mouths off about it: am I mistaken or have you in fact achieved anything yet in the realm of “opinion journalism?” Note that extended marathon bouts of shrieking “That’s Racist” at your cyber-foes doesn’t count.

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