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Obamacare’s Individual Mandate Exceeds Congress’ Commerce Clause Power

I have had time now to briefly read Judge Hudson’s opinion ruling that the individual mandate portion of Obamacare is unconstitutional. My initial impression is that, while this ruling will widely be viewed as a victory for opponents of Obamacare, there are some potential problems with the opinion that may result in this opinion being a net loss down the road (where it will inevitably be decided by the Supreme Court in any case).

To begin with, Judge Hudson specifically refused to enjoin the Act’s enforcement pending appeal (a decision which will likely not be revisited by the Fourth Circuit whenever they get around to hearing the appeals). More importantly, Judge Hudson – improperly, in my view – severed the individual mandate from the Act as a whole.  If that decision stands, it could well result in the wholesale destruction of private health insurance companies in the United States. It is also worth noting that this lawsuit did not address the potential capitation problems being litigated in the Florida lawsuit.

The largest legal hurdle the Virginia AG had to clear in arguing that the individual mandate was not within Congress’ Commerce Clause powers was avoiding the argument that this case was controlled by Wickard v. Fillburn, in which the Supreme Court upheld the application of a federal regulation imposed upon an individual wheat farmer.  The Supreme Court in Wickard reasoned that although the particular wheat farmer at issue certainly had a de minimis effect on interstate commerce, the aggregate effect of all wheat farmers nationwide did have a “substantial effect” on interstate commerce, and therefore Congress had acted within their Commerce Clause powers in enacting the act.  More recently, the Supreme Court reaffirmed Wickard with respect to individual marijuana growers in Gonzales v. Raich, which I suspect is the one judicial opinion in his career that Scalia would like to have back.

After Wickard, many observers predicted that no legislation would ever again be struck down as an impermissible exercise of Congress’ Commerce Clause powers. After all, if Congress is permitted to aggregate hundreds of millions of de minimis effects caused by the behavior of American citizens in order to clear the bar of a “substantial effect” on interstate commerce, it stands to reason that any activity, if repeated often enough by enough people, will have a “substantial effect” on interstate commerce and thus be within Congress’ power to regulate.

However, within the last 15 years, the Supreme Court issued a couple of surprising decisions which seemed to walk back that principle somewhat. In United States v. Morrison, the Court ruled that the Violence Against Women Act exceeded Congress’ Commerce Clause powers, because (essentially) the Commerce Clause was never intended to convey general police powers on the Federal Government. In United States v. Lopez, the Supreme Court struck down federal law prohibiting a person from knowingly carrying a firearm within a certain distance from a school for similar reasons.  The essential teaching of Morrison and Lopez, when compared with Wickard and Gonzales, is that the Supreme Court would look much more favorably upon a law which purported to regulate “economic activity” as opposed to a law which essentially operated to enforce general police powers in the guise of regulating commerce.

It may strike you, upon reading this, that a challenge to the individual mandate portion of Obamacare would seem to fall much more into the “economic activity” pile than the statutes at issue in Morrison and Lopez, and indeed that is exactly what Sebelius argued in this case. Ultimately, however, the Court rejected this argument based on the premise that the individual mandate does not in fact regulate activity but instead penalizes inactivity:

In her argument, the Secretary urges an expansive interpretation of the concept of activity. She posits that every individual in the United States will require health care at some point in their lifetime, if not today, perhaps next week or even next year. Her theory further postulates that because near universal participation is critical to the underwriting process, the collective effect of refusal to purchase health insurance affects the national market.  Therefore, she argues, requiring advance purchase of insurance based upon a future contingency is an activity that will inevitably affect interstate commerce.  Of course, the same reasoning could apply to transportation, housing, or nutritional decisions. This broad definitionof the economic activity subject to Congressional regulation lacks logical limitation and is unsupported by Commerce Clause jurisprudence.

Indeed, Judge Hudson seems here to have hit on the crux of this particular battle. Clearly, Morrison and Lopez suggest that the Supreme Court is not willing to endorse the proposition that Congress can do literally whatever it wants in the name of affecting interstate commerce. What Lopez and Morrison do not clearly answer is the question, “How far is too far?” Judge Hudson believes that the individual mandate is too far. Ultimately, the Supremes will have the last word on this question, and I do not have a particularly good sense of which direction Anthony Kennedy will lean.

Somewhat shockingly, Sebelius argued forcefully that the penalty imposed by the individual mandate was not a penalty but was instead a tax, and therefore permissible under Congress’ taxation powers (which are hypothetically broader than Congress’ powers to regulate interstate commerce). This seems to me to have been a rather half-hearted argument and one which the Court disposed of with extreme prejudice – noting, after all, that if the Act works as intended, it will raise zero revenue because no one will pay the penalty. This is contained on pp. 25-37 of the opinion if you are interested, but in my view, this will not be where the fight is before the Supreme Court.

The problematic portion of this opinion is the end. Judge Hudson refused to enjoin enforcement of the Act, reasoning (defensibly, I suppose) that there are yet a few years before the Act’s provisions become enforceable, which should hypothetically provide time for the appeals process to play out.  The more problematic portion involves Judge Hudson’s discussion of the severability of the Act. As we have discussed here before, Obamacare did not include a severability provision.  Therefore, under traditional canons, if a portion of the Act is found to be unconstitutional, the entire thing should be thrown out (as the Supreme Court did with Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, but perplexingly did not with Sarbanes-Oxley).

Judge Hudson seems to have reasoned that he could not determine whether the Act as a whole would have passed without the individual mandate portion, despite Sebelius’ strenuous arguments throughout the case that the individual mandate is the central lynchpin which makes the Act make financial sense. Moreover, as a common sense matter, if the individual mandate provision is struck down and the pre-existing condition ban remains in place, every private insurance carrier in the country will be bankrupted in short order.  One would assume this was not the intent of Congress when they passed the bill (although with this Congress, I suppose anything is possible). That fact notwithstanding, Judge Hudson unhelpfully severed the individual mandate “and directly-dependent provisions which make specific reference” to the individual mandate (whatever those might be) from the rest of the bill and left the remainder intact. As stated before, the main comfort we can take from this state of affairs is that this decision will likewise be subject to plenary review by the Supreme Court.

COMMENTS

  • d_lamar

    Judge Hudson distinguished the ruling in Wickam from the Obamacare case in that never before had inactive, passive conduct, been held to be commerce. He specifically rejected the Secretary’s argument that a person’s failure to purchase insurance would affect interstate commerce because that person would have to have health care treatment some time during their life, and that without insurance, would put a burden on the health care system, and that would affect interstate commerce.

    The Supremes will be faced with a simple question: Can the failure to participate in interstate commerce be considered commerce?

    You’re probably right. It all depends on Justice Kennedy.

    • Adjoran

      the same whose opinion was mocked by Obama in the SOTU last year.

      Payback time, Barry – never let your mouth write a check your butt can’t cash, mmmkay, Sunshine?

    • gekster

      If one of the biggest things about health care was that insurance can’t be sold across state lines, how does it affect interstate commerce.
      Am I missing something here?

      • Superheater

        was not considered interstate commerce by virtue of Paul v. Virginia 1869 until the decision was reversed in 1944 in the Southestern Underwriters Case. Congress, busy with WW2, left state regulation in place-subject to their permission-a pet peeve of John Dingell.

        • gekster

          But if the commerce clause regulates interstate commerce, and insurance can’t be sold across state lines, how can the commerce clause be enforced on this.

          • JSobieski

            A person growing food in their own back yard for their own consumption was held to be interstate commerce.

            The logic was that such activity impacted the governments ability to set price controls and otherwise control the food that was crossing state lines. Basically, that decision rendered the Commerce Clause useless.

          • JSobieski

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

          • gekster

            Are we stupid, or what.
            I sell tomatoes out of my back yard and it affects interstate commeerce?
            Who got paid what to get this law enacted.
            We must be truely dumb.

          • JSobieski

            Keep passing laws to fix the problems in the last law. Obamacare is very much an embodiment of that process.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            Concord again.

  • http://www.ufcle.com/willis/willis.htm Steven Willis

    This issue has been a major focus in the briefs. I agree it is the weakest part of the opinion. At the appellate level, I believe the Courts will necessarily focus more on the Taxing Power.

    Luckily, the Act violates the Taxing Power limitations. Excises have never applied to inactivity. The authority for this exceeds the authority regarding inactivity and the Commerce Clause.

    Overall, the opinion is excellent; however, the Court will likely be criticized for referring to $4Billion of potential revenue as “incidental.” While I agree, the taxing power issues arose late in the Legislative Process, I fear the Court was too dismissive of this issue.

    Much work to do for the appeal.

    • JSobieski

      The administration characterized this not as a penalty, but as a tax and a potential tax credit. If you don’t get insurance, you miss out on the credit, but everyone is essentially taxed a fixed amount and everyone has the option of getting a credit.

      I think that ultimately 5 Supreme Court Justices (i.e. Kennedy) will sign on to that reasoning..

      Is a non home owner “penalized” for not having a mortgage?
      Is a childress couple “penalized” for not having children?

      It seems to me that Obamacare is a tax with an off setting credit for those who purchase insurance. When characterized this way, the administration appears to have a strong argument. This is an unfortunate result of the income tax, and a Congress all to willing to engage in social engineering.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
        • http://www.ufcle.com/willis/willis.htm Steven Willis

          JSobieski is incorrect (although agreeing with me generally) in referring to the income tax. This is not an income tax.

          Most of those involved in the litigation believe the tax issue is the strongest for upholding. I disagree.

          Judge Hudson’s opinion was wonderful, albeit no flawless. I’ll leave the negative analysis for a less open forum, or at least for later.

          The statute characterizes the penalty as an excise – no getting around that. However weak the commerce argument is regarding compelled inactivity (and the government is weak on that), the argument for an excise on inactivity is weaker.

          The penalty is also not a duty or impost, and not an income tax. These first two are obvious points, while the third takes some analysis; however, the analysis for why it is not an income tax is unassailed.

          Thus, the penalty is a direct “”being used through the Necessary and Proper clause to enforce an unconstitutional Mandate under the Commerce Clause. Because the “tax” is not apportioned, it is unconstitutional as well.

          Thus both the Mandate and the penalty fall.

          I wish Judge Hudson had focused more on the tax issue.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            is that he and the libs would re-characterize the mandate as a tax based on the enforcement mechanism so as to try and find a way to uphold the law and would claim they are giving deference to Congress.

            But I agree with you on what is obviously the law. I have long referred to the moderate justice as Commander in Chief Kennedy since he re-wrote the constitution on Presidential war powers, and then there was Kelo etc ad infinitum.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • JSobieski

            But another way of saying that you will be charged a penalty of $X if you don’t purchase a product is to say that everyone’s taxes are increased by $X, and those who purchase the product get a credit of $X.

            So why isn’t the differential of +$X an income tax or some other form of tax? Do you have a link that explains this issue in a manner that you believe to be correct?

            I have always avoided tax law as a “bridge to far” in the past.

    • Scope

      in a radio interview on Friday morning was asked about the tax vs fee issue, and, he said that Judge Hudson previously ruled that it is a fee and not a tax. He said that 2 other Judges that ruled that the mandate is constitutional, had also agreed that it is a fee and not a tax.

      From what I’ve read, Cuccinelli said that he had to win on the tax issue and the mandate issue. He said that the Government only had to win on one of those two issues to prevail. They lost on both with Hudson, and won only on the mandate with the other two referenced.

      • Scope

        http://www.cuccinelli.com/index.php/healthcaredecision

        Ken Cuccinelli discusses the tax vs penalty issue.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    I’m certain the Leftists anticipated this ruling. Their primary imminent concern was not implementing a new health care system, but setting in place the mechanisms whereby the old one can be destroyed. First things first, in other words. After all, the citizenry cannot be expected to embrace a government run health care system when the best system in the world is up and fully functional for a vast majority of citizens.

    The rest of ObamaCare

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      will provide an answer as to whether you are right. They have quite a funding hole. Oh, and also, the unfunded parts of Obama_Don’t_Care should now fall under Pay-GO in the House.

      • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

        until all vestiges of ObamaCare

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          for the republicans to simply grant everyone a waiver. Since there are already so many groups who have waivers. They can point to the principle of equal treatment under the law and just waiver it all away.

          • bclare

            If every entity was granted a waiver. We just might add some capitalism back into this mess. Freakin’ Brilliant

  • victrola

    I do think there is merit in the theory that because a true public option couldn’t pass, the next best thing for the Left was to try and destroy the existing private health insurance industry.

    Conservatives though need to focus on more than just destroying ObamaCare, they need solutions beyond this to make private health insurance affordable for the middle-class.

    • skorrent1

      “Make” anything “affordable”? They did such a marvelous job “making housing affordable” that we got the housing bubble, and bust!

      The key to “affordable” healthcare is to make the moral decision that some people get Yugo care and some get Mercedes care. If we continue to insist that everyone deserves Mercedes, or even Mazzarotti, care, then health insurance will always be too expensive for many. The Hippocratic Oath says that doctors don’t like to limit treatment if it’s available. (Obamacare has defined Mazzarotti care as pregnancy care for males, mental care for addicts, and coverage of pre-existing conditions.)

      • izoneguy

        ObamaCare is to healthcare what the CRA was to housing.

        http://www.ffiec.gov/cra/default.htm

        The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), enacted by Congress in 1977 (12 U.S.C. 2901) and implemented by Regulations 12 CFR parts 25, 228, 345, and 563e, is intended to encourage depository institutions to help meet the credit needs of the communities in which they operate. In this section of the web site, you can find out more about the regulation and its interpretation and information on CRA examinations.

        1977 CRA passed into law – 2008 Housing crisis – 31 years later

        2009 ObamaCare passed into law – 2040 ?????

        Why wait to see what happens???
        We have imaginations – Need to push all the politicians to kill it….

        • skorrent1

          Medicare was like CRA, and Part D was like the Clinton/Dodd/Frank emphasis added. We won’t have to wait til 2040, IMO.

    • victrola

      When I say “make affordable” I didn’t mean “subsidize”.

      Tort reform would bring down costs, as would allowing insurance companies to sell health insurance plans across state lines. I would also like to see more done with Health care saving accounts and tax credits.

      The point I’m trying to make is, if ObamaCare was ruled completely unconstitutional tomorrow by the Supreme Court, the problem of affordable private health care would not be solved (although it would be a giant first step)

      If the trajectory of health care costs isn’t curtailed, the middle class will begin to demand a one-payer system because they simply can’t afford it. I’m already seeing it where people’s health insurance is more than their mortgage. These aren’t people looking for handouts from the government, but if they can’t afford basic healthcare for their family, they’re going to demand a MediCare/MediCaid type solution.

      I want to fix this before it’s too late and we have socialized medicine.

      • d_lamar

        This country has been exposed to decades of propaganda from the mainstream media, and the democrats, that the hospitals and doctors are the cause of skyrocketing health care costs. Meanwhile, during this time, the Republicans never have had the fortitude to place the blame where it really belongs – the federal government.

        Every conservative knows that anytime the federal government regulates an industry, it becomes unreasonably expensive and the level of service deteriorates. I believe that this result is deliberate. The marxists desire that regulations destroy an industry, because then they can eventually make the case that since the system doesn’t work, the government needs to provide the service.

        This has worked with medical care perfectly. Hospitals and doctors have been overwhelmed with regulations that have caused the system to be outragesously expensive. Compare that to the days prior to the adoption of medicare. Ordinary individuals could afford doctor office calls and hospital stays without insurance.

        The problem is also the result of the “pay for everything” insurance policies provided by employers. The governments tax policy encouraged employers to provide this kind of coverage, which is not really insurance at all, but more akin to pre-paid medical coverage.

        The real solution to the high cost of medical treatment is for the government to get out of the business of medical care. Quit giving tax breaks to employers that provide pre-paid medical treatment. Let the market determine the costs of medical care. Quit providing free treatment, at taxpayer expense, to the indigent. No free treatment of illegals.

        But until Republicans start making the argument that government is not the solution to health care problems, the problem will only get worse, until the marxists eventually get what they want, i.e. the government in complete control of the whole industry.

  • rickbull

    is that the SCOTUS decision with the most bearing on this, is the one that liberals worship at the altar of: Roe v. Wade. This decision, which was about medical privacy, finds that an individual’s medical treatment is a confidence between the individual and his/her doctor. How many health insurers (including Medicare) are going to pay a claim without knowing any information on the procedure? So the Fed is going to mandate that you give up your privacy rights or pay for something you don’t use (should you choose to pay for your own medical care and preserve your privacy)???

  • jb13

    upholds this decision ultimately, and declares severability, what does that do to the projected impact of ObamaCare on the federal budget?

    Does it increase the cost to the government?

    Could not the Republicans campaign to repeal the measure simply on the premise that it will now explode the budget deficit (something we already knew, but Obama and his allies in the press have been able to lie about since the bill was introduced) and/or that it will lead to the collapse of the health insurance system? Wouldn’t that leave the Democrats in an awkward place, having to argue to keep in place a system that cannot succeed, even in the short term?

  • cej

    to end the Drug War based on this exact same reasoning? If the Feds have gone too far here, then they have gone too far with the Controlled Substances Act.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      You could put up a diary expalining how harmless legalized Meth would be, then we could get all passionate about ending the war on drugs!!

      • cej

        Alcohol is very very safe and causes no harm.. Neither does tobacco.

        Just because alcoholics exist it does not mean we should ban alcohol. Just because chain-smokers exist it does not mean we should ban tobacco. Just because obese people exist it does not mean we should ban McDonalds. And just because meth addicts exist it does not mean we should ban meth.

        Violence to others: a crime; remains illegal. Violence to one’s self: not even possible.

        • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

          equally addictive and have equally virulent health effects when taken in identical doses. Oh, that’s right, they don’t! In fact, there’s quite the disparity. Oh well, another Internet Glibbertarian talking point bites the dust….

        • powertothepeople

          stupidity comes in all shapes and forms.

          But please tell us, did you make your argument because you are as stupid as they come or because you want to be an antagonist? Either way, your argument is as absurd as they come.

          Why do you not add these in to your line of thinking:

          Just because some men can not get sex through normal ways, why ban rape?

          Just because a few are killers why ban murder?

          Why ban stealing because a few desire what others have earned?

          Ignorance must be quite blissful for you to show it in public!

          • cej

            fundamental right to live. As such, they should be banned. How does some stranger ingesting a particular substance violate your right to live? It doesn’t. If he takes some other actually violent action while high, punish that.

            These issues really are very simple. One day you will come around to this position.

    • skorrent1

      About refraining from commerce vs engaging in commerce?

      When will I hear you libertarians (libertines?) b*tch about government control of prescription drugs, which affects 100% of the population, instead of just the CSA, which affects maybe 10%? Is it caveat emptor, or not?

      • cej

        The FDA is the body that administers the schedules of drugs, and harasses people like cancer patients for trying to relieve their pain. It is a truly sickening bureaucracy that lies in direct opposition to freedom and happiness. It is not a constitutional department and it should be abolished immediately.

        • powertothepeople

          that you are a dope head who wants all restrictions lifted?

          Now you are railing about the FDA. While the FDA may have some hand in the amount of drugs allowed, it is the DEA who sets the rules and enforces them.

          But either way. lets get real. People who are in need of pain relief other than aspirin are usually not the ones affected by the DEA and its rules. It is the junkies or dealers that do not like the rules. And on this one I know what I am talking about.

          My wife works in a doctors office and sees the junkies and their attempts to get around daily use, and I have been on heavy pain medications since a wreck devastated my body years ago. I take three medicines to control the pain, lortab , oxycotin, and Fentanyl Duragesic Transdermal Pain Patch. Due to my consistent adherence to the prescribed amount and the documented level of pain I deal with every day, if I need more, I am given more without any interference from any governmental organization. I have never had any issue with pain relief because I do not try to abuse the system, over take my medications, or sell them.

          But there is nothing in our bill of rights that guarantees a pain free life or unlimited access to drugs, legal or otherwise. And you are trying to play harp strings that are broken. The powers that be do not interfere in the care of patients when the doctor is doing what he/she feels is best. They only interfere when dope heads or dealers try to scam the system or abuse it and they should get even tougher. It is because of these dope heads and dealers that people Like I with real problems have to jump through hoops and prove our problems over and over again, Not too mention the stigmata we carry in the community when it comes to the heavy pain pills all because you and people like you want to get high without interference.

          • cej

            we just left people alone to ingest whatever they want until they actually do harm to others? Is that really such a radical concept, not meddling in peoples’ personal lives? We don’t punish the alcoholic simply for being drunk. We do punish him for the battery he commits in the alleyway.

    • lexington_concord

      To make one. Normally I’d tell you to just knock off the threadjack but as it happens I have a substantive response:

      1) I think I issued a pretty good tell that I thought Gonzales v. Raich was wrongly decided.
      2) That said, just because I believe that the Federal Govt can’t require me to purchase health insurance (which by law cannot be purcchased across state lines) it does not follow that I believe that the Federal Govt can’t prevent me from buying or selling drugs that have been transported across state lines. Put the roach down and walk away slowly.
      3) This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, no matter how high you are. End threadjack.

  • bobmontgomery

    …..if the Individual Mandate is separated and pre-existing conditions are left in, and health care insurance collapses, and with it health care, dark days are ahead. So the question is, if the individual mandate was an abomination, why is mandatory coverage of pre-existing conditions not also an abomination? As Rickbull points out how can the payer pay without receiving a bill of particulars, and so how can an insurer insure against something happening when it has already happened? It seems like the individual mandate was an afterthought thrown in to show dollars, but the pre-existing conditions mandate was the real ball-breaker. How do you rate all pre-existing conditions? Stage 1 cancer vs. Stage 4 cancer? Immobility? Dementia?
    It seems like not only insurance but the whole concept of contract law is in jeopardy.

    • skorrent1

      Of Obama!

      • bobmontgomery

        The infuriating part is that during the ‘debates’, the Republicans went along, for the most part, with the pre-existing conditions part of it. Didn’t want to appear ‘mean spirited’. How is requiring pre-existing conditions to be covered any different than requiring that instead of Party A contracting with Party B to buy 1,000 tons of wheat, Party A must agree to buy as much wheat as Party B shows up with? Didn’t Congress and Bill Clinton come to an agreement in the 90′s that you couldn’t keep paying mothers for every child they produced?

        • dudette

          are totally afraid of making the case for smaller govt, personal responsibiity, etc. Not just in the healthcare argument but inany argument where they might be seen as “mean” It is truly galling to me…they are so fearful the little people will not understand the timeless principles that form the bedrock of our foundation.

    • acat

      botched contract law. The order of payouts to debtors in Chrysler’s collapse (and GM’s) were ignored…. there were mentions of the impact on contract law here at the time.

      Mew

  • redarashi

    who’ll rule for real Americans.

    • conservativemusician

      For nominating and then getting this judge confirmed. I didn’t agree with Bush on quite a few things – especially late in his 2nd term, but he got this one right, so I say three cheers for GWB. Hopefully the Supreme Court will uphold this very well written decision today and that this is the beginning of the end for ObamaCare.

  • powertothepeople

    we do not need to sit back quite yet and bask in the glory of this win. First this ruling needs to stand all the way up to the Supreme Court and then we need to get rid of the rest of it. Taking away the mandate is a start, but it is not the entire unconstitutional bill.

  • http://electionsanalysis.blog.com paint_it_red

    The ruling really just punted on severability. The likelihood of the bill passing without the compulsory purchase of insurance upon pain of fines obviously was key to passage. The bill passed by the slimmest of margins, and whatever financial credibility the bill had in friendly sectors depended upon it, otherwise they would not have included such an unpopular provision as they burned through political capital. If ever a bill could be said to have a provision so integral to the bill that it would not have passed without it and therefore it is not severable, this is that bill.

    Overall a good decision, but at the end it was like he ran out of intellectual steam.

  • timelyrenewed

    Judge Hudson’s decision is good news, and we all hope that it will prevail when Obamacare finally reaches the Supreme Court two years from now. However, that is not certain, and there remain substantial political powers who regard this vast extension of federal power as acceptable based upon the Supreme Court’s vast expansion of the interstate commerce clause since 1937. The only sure way to stop not only Obamacare, but the innumerable other ways in which the federal government has increased its power beyond the original scope of the Constitution is to reverse those Supreme Court cases and restore the interstate commerce clause to its original meaning. Given how entrenched these Supreme Court precedents are, this will require a constitutional amendment restating the original, very limited interstate commerce clause. See http://www.timelyrenewed.com

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    The Schechter Brothers case has been mentioned in connection with government controlling interstate commerce in the 1930′s. They were sued by FDR and won, in effect breaking a part of the New Deal. Second, not be directly related but should be, that is before ObamaCare was even passed, Obama put $1.1 billion in the Porkulus bill (signed Feb. 2009) for “research staff.” A bunch of high price bureaucrats were hired. This was discovered by Betsy McCaughey.

  • billinsuwanee

    This undoubtedly is going to the Supreme Court. Experts believe it will be a 5-4 decision to overturn Judge Hudson’s decision.

    Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Kennedy will vote YES to uphold the Obamacare mandate; Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Stevens will vote NO to the constitutionality of the Obamacare mandate. Of course if Kagan recuses herself because she was Solicitor General when the case was filed it will be a tie, which means Judge Hudson’s decision will be upheld.

  • renny

    reject this law. It has done so before and can do so, again. But we need a Rep. majority and Rep. pres. to sign the legislation.

  • doubledok

    Justice Kagan

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