From the diaries by Jeff. No “Mute” button here – this is very important.
Now comes news that House Republican Leader Eric Cantor (R.-Va.) is refusing to commit that the Pence amendment to defund Planned Parenthood will be in the final version of the bill which will fund the government for the rest of the year -– the “long-term continuing resolution.”
This, despite the fact that Planned Parenthood, which performs 324,000 abortions a year, could, according to some insiders, collapse if denied the $350 million it annually receives in taxpayer dollars.
So, given a Schindler’s list with 324,000 names, why would anyone who believes the unborn are human beings not move heaven and earth to protect them?
Said Cantor: “…we’re trying to demonstrate right now that we don’t want to see a [government] shutdown…”
Really!
In fact, the House had, weeks earlier, passed its version of a resolution to fund the government through the remainder of the fiscal year –- until September 30, 2011. If government funding is not yet guaranteed -– if a shutdown has not been rendered impossible — it is because Harry Reid and Barack Obama refuse to consider the House’s resolution because it contains provisions unacceptable to them, such as defunding ObamaCare.
But hold on a minute: Cantor and his colleagues campaigned on the promise that they would repeal ObamaCare –- or at least defund it.
And, if the criterion of Cantor, House Speaker John Boehner, and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell is the avoidance of any issue that will trigger an Obama veto, then they have raised the white flag before the battle has even begun:
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill (or resolution) that defunds ObamaCare. That Republican promise will be a lie if the criterion is acceptability to Barack Obama.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill reducing American abortions by 324,000 a year.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill containing the Boren-Rehberg amendment to prohibit the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms from creating a new illegal gun registry of multiple gun sales.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill blocking the EPA’s efforts to tax and regulate carbon dioxide by regulatory fiat.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill blocking the Federal Communication Commission’s efforts to regulate the Internet with no statutory authority.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill creating a regulatory “fairness doctrine.”
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill blocking the National Labor Relations Board from implementing CardCheck without Congress’s permission.
- Obama won’t easily sign a bill cutting spending by the $100 billion (or $61 billion) Republicans promised in the campaign.
But guess what?
If there is NO bill -– IF CONGRESS DOES NOTHING — all of these good things will happen AUTOMATICALLY.
So why would anyone other than a fool and a coward not want to shut the government down?
Well, they will say, Gingrich shut down the government during the 104th Congress –- and paid a political price.
Not really.
In the first place, Republicans lost fewer than 10 seats in the 1996 elections and retained control of the House and Senate. In exchange, the GOP got a welfare reform bill and a budget which ultimately produced a surplus. And the Gingrich shutdown was not animated by a resounding popular goal, such a defunding ObamaCare.
But more important, the polls didn’t show that the public opposed the shutdown. Rather, Gingrich’s numbers dropped when he chickened out. The American people don’t dislike heroes who stand for principle; they dislike cowards.
But, okay.
Lets assume that the iconography that Republicans can’t provoke a government shutdown is unassailable. Here’s an idea: Pass a separate bill to continue the popular functions of the federal government, even if there is no appropriations (or no debt limit).
Worried that new Social Security applicants can’t receive checks? Include it in that bill.
VA benefits? Include them.
Entrance to national parks and the Smithsonian? Yep, them too.
Passports? You betcha.
All of this would be a temporary statutory supplement to the Antideficiency Act and the agency protocols. And it would contain every unassailable sacred cow in the budget.
It would be passed, not because there are not preexisting rules on what stays open, but because Republicans want to make it clear that Congress makes those determinations when it wants to.
Let Harry Reid block that –- or Barack Obama veto it.
For months now, we’ve been getting a song-and-dance that ObamaCare can’t be repealed because Obama has a veto.
But both House and Senate Republicans have a veto too. They have a veto over everything Barack Obama wants to do for the remainder of his term.
If Obama is willing to exercise his veto -– but House Republicans are not –- what does that tell you?
We are now in a situation where the only way Republicans can lose -– the only way ObamaCare can NOT be defunded –- is if House and Senate Republicans choose to lose.
What sort of cowards would choose to lose a transformational battle such as this? And what sort of idiot would reelect them?
by Michael E. Hammond, former General Counsel Senate Steering Committee 1978-89.
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"What sort of cowards would choose to lose a transformational battle such as this? . . . ."
ColdWarrior (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 4:27PM EDT (link)“What sort of cowards would choose to lose a transformational battle such as this? And what sort of idiot would reelect them?”
To answer your first question, its the kind of cowards who don’t feel any pressure from their congressional district in terms of any uptick in the number of conservative Republicans who have come into the Party in the precinct committeeman ranks who might coalesce with the other conservative PCs already in the Party so as to help Get Out The Vote in the primary elections for a more conservative, more principled, “non-professional politician” challenger.
In answer to your second question, “What sort of idiot would reelect them?”, as you know Republicans turn out in pathetic numbers in the primary elections. In Delaware in 2006, for example, 8 per cent turned out in the Republican primary. Here in Arizona, we typically get around 20 per cent in the Republican primary. But, those “idiotic” percentages are a huge opportunity for us conservatives. Assuming we all come into the Party as precinct committeemen and then vote to endorse primary challengers. And the help Get Out The Vote for those primary challengers.
Alas, most conservative Republicans, it seems, prefer to do other things with their time.
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:04PM EDT (link)Please cut your sig in half. It’s grown rather large and gets in the way of threads.
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This sums up the GOP the past ten years...
writeblock Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:16PM EDT (link)It has no idea whatsoever of how to fight and fight hard. Republicans have been brought up primarily in nice neighborhoods with nice incomes and nice manners. They don’t comprehend how to deal with the level of threat that comes their way from the streetfighters on the left. They don’t seem to realize we’re in a war, that the left has been aggressive for fitty years and if we want to win this war we need to be just as aggressive. We need the desire to destroy, not compromise.
The first thing Boehner did as Speaker was declare how Republicans would respect the rights of the opposition, unlike Pelosi. Of course Pelosi knew how to knee the opposition in the groin. Ryan made a wimpish speech recently that our side was all too quick to praise–though it more or less was a plea for Republicans and Democrats to all get along. Now Cantor is telegraphing a willingness to back off.
Why was it an amendment?
writeblock Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:11PM EDT (link)Why wasn’t it in the bill to begin with. Why isn’t every scrap of discretionary spending being analyzed and eliminated? It’s unnecessary and it’s politically offensive. How hard is that for the GOP leadership to understand? Before they start talking about third rail entitlements, they’d better be damn sure they’ve cut out every unnecessary dime in the budget.
Calling Mr. Boehner...
IronDioPriest (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:03PM EDT (link)“I have something for you to read, sir….”
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annas Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:16PM EDT (link)…does one reach Cantor, Noem and McCarthy? I was certainly able to reach Noem when she needed money, but now you can’t email them with out being one of their “constituency!” Can anyone tell me how to send an email?
You can find most contact info by google...
bcb1 (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:30PM EDT (link)Google is your friend.
Call the slugs on the telephone
Dr. Botkin Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:53PM EDT (link)Tell them they accepted your money, and now they can accept your call.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
Just play their game.
bigd3141592653 (Diary) Friday, March 4th at 9:36PM EDT (link)In order to “be a constituent” all you have to do is enter a ZIP+4 that falls in their district. Just go to their website, find the address of one of their local offices, go to the USPS “Zip code finder”, and find its zip+4 code. Then put that in as yours (I’ve found in most cases that you can put in the rest of your actual address, and they don’t care!)
Speaker Boehner will accept email from anyone…
Calling Mr. Pence .... -nt
littlehouse18 (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:20PM EDT (link)Oh, let them die.
Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:23PM EDT (link)What’s a few hundred thousand babies when it comes to the possibility that the government — the United States Government — might not run for a while? And with that possibility comes the chance that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell might get blamed for it.
There are larger issues at stake than mere human life. There are partisan political points to be made, a proper defense to be raised.
Why, we can’t expect the Democrats to let us stop the government from funding abortion and let us stop funding anything else, can we? They might try to block coal mining in Kentucky or Ohio.
We are assured by Planned Parenthood that they keep their abortion money completely separate from their non-abortion money. And if the government cut off funds, PP would have to raise money itself. You don’t want a bunch of Planned Parenthood ads all over the place, do you?
And by continuing to fund abortions with federal money, we can keep this issue alive (so to speak) for 2012.
Besides, It’s not like the taxpayers are paying for all of this stuff. 40% of this money is borrowed from our kids. Well, our kids and China, and the Chinese kind of like abortion. So I don’t know what you people are worried about.
Oh, and one last thing. Aren’t a lot of those kids just black anyway? And poor? Not really all that human, when you get right down to it.
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Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:25PM EDT (link)but since I use my name now, I must:
/snark.
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wait...who were you again Loren....
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:45PM EDT (link)you need to put “Formerly XXXXXXX” so we can remember who we’re talking to.
I read your peice the other day when you announced you were walking away from your screen name…but I’ve forgotten already…
They can't keep the two separate
ohiohistorian (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:31PM EDT (link)Their fertility and abortion counseling are supposedly 1/10 of the total funding, with abortion being the other 9/10. They would get so little money it would make no difference (they’d go broke on Wednesday instead of Monday).
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Let them counsel on their own dime.
writeblock Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:13PM EDT (link)Why is government in the counseling business?
I love you..........
bigmaude Thursday, March 3rd at 6:50AM EDT (link)And babies…….
Truce!
Incredible (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:23PM EDT (link)Is Cantor French for anything?
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claude5 Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:27PM EDT (link)Any time anybody can be called “French” it’s hilarious. Cantor deserves it. Erique Canteur? HAHA LOL
ROFL....I LOVE IT....Erique Canteur
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:46PM EDT (link).
How about Can'tor
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Same thing on NPR.
writeblock Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:28PM EDT (link)Last I heard they were talking about “cutting” it, not defunding it. The stupidity and weakness on our part is amazing.
Can anyone tell me why Cantor should get the time of day from conservatives?
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 5:35PM EDT (link)Every time I read about him it is like he is channeling John McCain.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
That's always been the case with Cantor, Tbone.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:51PM EDT (link)I forget why any actual conservative thought he was all that and a bag of chips .. he’s certainly proven unreliable at best.
And to answer your hypothetical, the only way is if we attach a watch to the end of the clue-by-four*….
Mew
* note – a clue-by-four is a logical rather than physical construct.. the only damage a congresscritter would take from being whacked with one is to its’ perception….
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sowa1 Thursday, March 3rd at 6:15AM EDT (link)Why do Conservatives always cut down the ones that are trying to cut spending and do what is right? The Democrats went on a spending spree and still want to spend more. Republicans have the House but not the Senate or White House. You want things fixed, vote the Democrats out in 2012. Especially the ones that have been there for more than two terms. They are the ones that don’t want the problems in the U.S. fixed and do not care if we are no longer the Best of the Best.
We voted out the Democrats in 2010, now we need to vote out some Republicans.
Tbone (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 10:08AM EDT (link)You want things fixed, you need fixers not politicians who have been fixed.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Tbone - politicians have expiration dates...
acat (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 10:13AM EDT (link)They’re not stamped on the forehead like I’d prefer, but .. even the bestest conservatives stink after marinating in D.C. for a while.
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Cantor Must Go
goodforall Thursday, March 3rd at 7:18AM EDT (link)I have never been a fan of his and have noticed how he swings back and forth on legislation. He is certainly no friend of conservatives. I was afraid of this when he was made majority leader. Guess we have some more work to do.
Regardless of the life issue...
vortigernpendragon (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:00PM EDT (link)There’s no excuse for not cutting this out of the budget. If they want to continue to operate their “clinics”, they should raise their money from the donations of people who support their cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkTQErQWko
http://spendenforcer.com/
Remember "YouCut"?
trpeacocke Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:09PM EDT (link)That’s the site, set up by Cantor, where all of “You” were supposed to be able to propose cuts in government expenditures. Well, I tried, on several occasions to propose cuts to PP funding. For some reason, it never showed up in the YouCut site. I checked back later a few times, and PP cuts were never included among the proposals. I found it very hard to believe that not one of “You” proposed cuts to PP. I knew I had. Very fishy. Haven’t been back since. Cantor never did seem like his heart was into the whole not-killing-babies-in-the-womb thing.
Oh please (nt)
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"Oh please"?
trpeacocke Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:58PM EDT (link)I don’t understand. I’m just relating my experience at YouCut and my impression about Cantor. This PP funding move seems to confirm my impression. Have I gotten something wrong?
Oh please
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Love the pic Neil
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 8:24PM EDT (link)and the scratch out job, although this may have been one time that word would have added the needed emphasis.
I can't claim credit for either
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 8:40PM EDT (link)I actually got it from another forum with rules on language, which is why the originator had to scratch it out
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So are you saying...
trpeacocke Wednesday, March 2nd at 8:48PM EDT (link)…that there is some explanation for PP not appearing on YouCut that reflects well on those responsible for the site? I guess I’m not really expecting more than poo-flinging at this point but I thought I’d give it a try anyway.
Reply to this is your friend
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 8:53PM EDT (link)as I did not state anything about your pity party, I simply expressed my liking for the picture. And since I save my harsh replies for non conservative statements, I am choosing to avoid the silliness you posted.
But by all means, please feel free to retype your reply and direct it to our senior mod, Neil who is face palming what you wrote.
Oh please
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Your cutting and pasting skills are...
trpeacocke Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:40PM EDT (link)…very impressive. No, really, they are. But I’m still wondering why PP funding is absent from Eric Cantor’s YouCut site, even though the probability that no one proposed it is zero.
I would assume
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 11:05PM EDT (link)that if you wrote your idea there like you wrote your nonsense here, it was deleted immediately.
And who freaking cares? I have seen the site, it is not intended to list every idea, it targets large spending items publicly, and no where does it suggest that your input will cause the site editor to list what you have suggested. And to top it off, the site has always been and always will be a joke of a site intended to get people like you to visit thinking everything you say is all important. In other words, it is a ploy and you fell for it. Now you want to take your ball home and on the way stop on in here and make a stupid post.
You know an intelligent person would see their boat has sunk and would attempt to move on to another boat. Guess you just like the feeling of sinking.
By the way, he is not using paste and cut, so add one more fail to your repertoire.
Actually...
trpeacocke Wednesday, March 2nd at 11:31PM EDT (link)…it does purport to list all ideas for spending cuts proposed by the public. The most popular ones, allegedly, have priority. Yet there is no mention of cuts to PP. It’s quite remarkable. Almost as remarkable as your friend’s picture pasting skills.
Look your speaking again
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 12:36AM EDT (link)and the same nonsensical Bulls*** is coming out. I see you have as much of a concept of how to make valid posts as you do about the silly site.
I have no idea
silkywiley Thursday, March 3rd at 12:49PM EDT (link)why Neil and the others are piling on to you over your post. Far as I can see you posted an incident you had, they snark “oh please”, I don’t get it either.
I agree.
artist4freedom Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:12PM EDT (link)Why should the American taxpayer be forced to pay for abortions?
It is time to tell Price at the RSC
ohiohistorian (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:27PM EDT (link)that unless he gets in the face of these Clintonesque liars, his organization is toast. Nobody will contribute to a conservative Republican ever again.
It is time that these nimrods are held accountable. Boehner skated on his appointments to committee heads; it is time to hold him either accountable or retired. HE can make the choice.
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Now I hope posters here understand...
writeblock Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:49PM EDT (link)why Ryan’s speech on WI Democrats made me sick the other day. It reflected the same kind of conciliatory, wimpish weak-kneed rhetoric Cantor uses routinely. These “leaders” are not tough enough for the war we’re fighting, They don’t understand the implications of their weakness, that they actually invite aggression.
What do you do
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:57PM EDT (link)other than whining in here and taunting every leader we have, YOURSELF to change the course of this country, make a difference in the way things are going, or help stop the union? I wonder since it seems the only thing you do is practice up on your keyboard heman skills, whine constantly, and belittle those who are actually on the front lines. But please, by all means, correct me if I am wrong about the fact that all you do is type.
Maybe...if those on the front lines would send some lead down range instead of throwing pansies and pink carnations
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 8:28PM EDT (link)at the enemy’s feet…there wouldn’t be so much to whine about….
What I don’t get are the apologists here who make excuses for the way the leaders of the party constantly skulk up to the Dems in these battles with their bellies dragging on the floor dribbling pee with every step in hopes that their media masters will pat them on the head and the Dems won’t haul off and kick them across the room
By all means…if you want to praise this craven behavior by our leadership…it’s a free country….but don’t jump on those of us trying to see something…ANYTHING change in Washington after gaining 65 seats in the House this year!
Sorry ace
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:01PM EDT (link)But Ryan has not been an apologist, has worked towards our goal, has stood for what is right, and the premise of my statement stands. If a person is nothing more than a keyboard heman and does little to nothing to change the problem, their constant berating of those who are on the front lines goes past dumb. And going on past posting from write, all he ever does is belittle those out doing something, and whine about everything. He always has the “answers” but little to no action. Sort of like a person who has never played football, never coached football, and has never known anyone who has done either but yet they know better than all coaches how to coach football and know better than all pro players on how to play the game.
Ryan is not perfect, not even the best in the business, but he is heads and shoulders above most in Congress and is working on fixing the problem. Can not say the same for ole write.
I gotta admit...I missed the bit about Ryan the first time through...you have a point on him...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:22PM EDT (link)but Canot, Boehner and the rest of the clown club deserve our contempt if they can’t stand by what they promised in the campaign
cprrection...Cantor nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:23PM EDT (link)Yes you are correct
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:30PM EDT (link)and if we took the time to list all the republicans across this country deserving of our absolute contempt, we would be asked to stop using up so much bandwidth.
Guess my point is this, I do not have issue with anyone raising concerns about any politician even if they do nothing political in their life or financially support anyone ever as that is what we are supposed to do. But when you get someone like writeblock that does nothing to change his own world much less the rest of it and constantly spew dumbness, belittles every leader out there, constantly acts as if he has every answer yet never has a one, panders a loser called Rudy, whines and whines and whines, etc, it grow old. Neil or Moe gave a description of write perfectly, he is the school kid who sits at the back of the classroom doing nothing but spitting spitballs at everyone. Offers nothing, but always has something dumb to say or has to belittle everyone fighting for something.
I just did not express it that well and you are correct about the names you mentioned.
hah...I forgot about his Rudy Man Crush...heh nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 9:48PM EDT (link)Fiscal and Social conservative confluence
Kyle-MI (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:43PM EDT (link)Isn’t this one of those rare cases where both fiscal and social conservative agree? The social conservatives don’t like PP. The fiscal conservatives don’t like paying for PP.
And on top of this all, wouldn’t the Dems look very bad by shutting down the government to protect funding for abortion?
This is the moment of truth
paint_it_red (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 6:52PM EDT (link)I would rather see the government shutdown than have the PP funding continue. And, (as some have guessed), I’m a federal employee. Shutting down the abortuaries is more important.
Besides, its largely a false choice anyways. Take the funding out and force the Dems to be the ones to shut down or not. They will back down. McCaskill in the Senate has already capitulated. Others will surely follow. The Dems will not let the government shut down to show they are the party saving abortion funding. If they did, it would be the end of them.
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Cantor, Cantor, Cantor......
runner12 (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:22PM EDT (link)You just do not get it, do you? You have placed yourself in a political bubble, always trying to calculate how your next move will play out in the media.
When will you take a stand on principle? As many people in this thread have stated, this is an issue that unites both fiscal and social conservatives. Regardless of people’s opinion on abortion, we can all agree that the federal government should NOT fund Planned Parenthood or any similar organization!
Cantor, this is not hard!
You can't be serious...you actually expect Republicans in leadership to actually do what they said they'd do do you?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:29PM EDT (link)How naive!
How absolutely Pollyannish!!
They are now firmly in position thanks to your hard work…and they can’t be expected to stick by anything they said to the poor saps who voted for them!
There’s serious work to be done now and we don’t have the luxury of standing by silly concepts like Honor, or integrity…and principles are for pie in the sky dreamers…
Move along now kids…the adults are in charge…thatnks for the votes and all the hard work….but the adults will take it from here…
Than you very much!
Put another way...We're all Charlie Brown once again!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:37PM EDT (link)Hey Ace
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 7:35AM EDT (link)Ease up on the GOP bashing now?
If you want to criticize individuals, fine, but save the blanket party bashing for DKos.
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I'm not bashing the Party, I'm bashing the leadership...as is everyone else in this thread
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 4:41PM EDT (link)I’d be happy to praise them…in fact I have when they give me reason…sadly there is little reason to in this instance
To be more specific, I'm bashing Cantor and those in leadership with an appeasement mentality
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 5:03PM EDT (link)as is everyone else in this thread as is the author of the OP and I assume as is Jeff who saw fit to promote this Diary.
To be even more specific, I’m bashing those in leadership who insist on playing to lose…as Cantor is doing in this instance.
My apologies….I’ll try to remember to be more specific in my future posts about who I’m bashing so noone can read into what I said something I didn’t intend to convey.
Appreciate that
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 8:33PM EDT (link)I really do.
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Turn PP into NGO
drfredc Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:38PM EDT (link)The best way to divest the taxpayers of Federal program bloat, be that Planned Parenthood, Dept of Education, HeadStart, or HandoutsRUs not for Congress to directly defund them. This puts the fiscally responsible CongressCritters on the frontlines, where they’ll get chewed up by the PRESSSSident and others…
Rather, offer these programs a pathway for conversion into NGOs with the option for taxpayers to direct a portion of their tax dollars directly to these various NGOs. Not a tax deduction, but a full tax credit. Let those who want to support these programs have that opportunity. Let these programs (NGOs) take there case to the people to get support — PBS does it with success. Let the taxpayers make the tough choices… If the liberals want to support PP, then let them have their way. Ditto for the Department of Education, and Energy, Headstart and more…
My guess is liberals will quickly find out it’s not so easy to spend their own money to keep these dogs going… Just don’t tell them that to start with… Start with a few choice demonstration programs like PBS and PP that will easily meet their goals — then pile on more and more of the waste and duplicated programs…
Also, provide some simple rules that if the program fails to meet certain goals in terms of taxpayer support, they lose their tax credit status and are totally on their own… Which means they could still survive with tax deductible donations…
Do the same with earmarks… If someone happens to come up with a good one that people find useful and grows — what’s the problem? Let the social marketplace and taxpayers sort out the nation’s fiscal problems. Anyone doubt that taxpayers can get this done a lot quicker than politicians.
It’s our country, it’s our taxes, let the productive taxpayers have a bigger say in nation’s direction — and quickly it will get back to the dynamically prosperous and compassionate nation it should be…
Always, Fred C
Don't have time to find the statistics, but ...
acat (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:42PM EDT (link)Red States give, Blue States don’t.
Liberals would much rather spend other peoples’ money than their own….
Mew
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Little help for you Acat
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, March 2nd at 7:54PM EDT (link)This was written by a liberal
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Actual Study
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One curious item, some of the most giving states are also the lowest in income with Mississippi being the lowest in income yet was the highest in giving. The 3 highest income states, all blue, were in the bottom seven.Not too mention red states take the first 25 spots in generous giving.
Thank you, power. Owe you one. [nt]
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You would Never Owe me
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 2:23AM EDT (link)and since I have learned quite a bit from you, lets call it even shall we!
By the way, like your signature...
acat (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 8:50AM EDT (link)but as it isn’t famous (yet) I don’t recognize it.
Can you illuminate?
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It is just my own ramblings
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 10:20AM EDT (link)one I have used on a person before on another site. I saw it was copied over there a few times and decided to bring my “brilliance” over here.
Eric Cantor has got to go
takemccain2 (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 7:41AM EDT (link)He is a bold-faced liar who finds fiscal and social conservatism when it suits him politically but he won’t fight for either as a practical matter.
If the GOP stands for nothing else, it should always stand for the rights of the unborn. Planned Parenthood are butchers, short and simple.
This is yet another reason I hate the Republican Party now. They never, NEVER follow through on anything they promise.
$100 billion in budget cuts – NOPE
Defunding of Planned Parenthood – NOPE
NPR being defunded – Haven’t heard anything so likely NOPE
You are a bunch of unethical, unprincipled cowards, GOP. Keep enjoying not getting me to the polls ever again. As in the last election cycle, any $ I spend go to Tea Party candidates only. I hope you collapse as a major party because you deserve it you gutless wonders.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
Let's review the rules, shall we?
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, March 3rd at 7:48AM EDT (link)Please go here
Review Rule 6.
Do not, repeat, not shill for 3rd parties here.
Thank you.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Hey Bill S... with respect to a review of the rules
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 6th at 11:11PM EDT (link)this idiot has been spewing his third party crap for months. A quick search led me to this exchange in May of last year that, interestingly enough, you were involved in along with Neil with respect to schooling him on third party mantras.
I’m pretty sure it’s not the first or the last, but it’s late and I gotta get up at the crack of dawn.
The cowardly thing to do takemccain2...
conservativemusician Thursday, March 3rd at 8:03AM EDT (link)Is to just criticize the GOP and then run from reforming it. 2010 was just the first step in cleaning house and it will probably take several more election cycles before politicians get the message that we mean business. Besides, I’m sure by that time that the voters of VA will have taken care of the Cantor problem we are currently experiencing because people have simply had enough of the double-talk.
Maybe you’re not old enough to remember Perot back in the 90s, but third parties are losers every time they are tried. They always split the vote on our side and we end up being principled losers while the Dems just laugh at our stupidity. That’s why the discussion here is on reforming the GOP. It is our only hope. Learn it, live it, love it.
Bill S and conservativemusician
takemccain2 (Diary) Sunday, March 6th at 9:55PM EDT (link)To begin with, I worked my [redacted] off in 2002 and 2004 so Republicans could regain the Senate and our side could have control of both chambers of Congress. We all know what happened once the GOP got control – absolutely NOTHING.
Secondly, [redacted] both! I don’t owe the GOP anything for all the years of promises that were lies and neither do I have to put up with backroom politics which is just what Cantor and the leadership pulled by siding with Dems to derail the Blackburn-backed amendment. 61 billion in cuts is not acceptable while the country spirals around the drain of bankruptcy and it isn’t what was promised.
I’m not putting up with “give us time to rebuild the party” [redacted] anymore when all that is going to happen is douche bags like Cantor, Boenher, Upton and the rest get replaced by more lying douche bags.
[Redacted] this stupid, lying party.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
This is an inappropriate post takemccain2...
conservativemusician Sunday, March 6th at 10:30PM EDT (link)And probably your last one with your foul language. I’m surprised Bill S. or one of the other moderators hasn’t already banned you, so I say again, do us all a favor and take your third party nonsense somewhere else…like Kos where you can cuss to your heart’s content.
Ummm, I'm guessing "Bye"... nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 6th at 10:55PM EDT (link)I'll do the honors. G'bye, takemccain2. nt
Steve Maley (Diary) Sunday, March 6th at 11:26PM EDT (link)The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
Thanks, guys
Bill S (Diary) Sunday, March 6th at 11:32PM EDT (link)I’m operating at a handicap right now, as my laptop is in the shop. So I’ve been trying to keep up using my BB and iPad, so I’m slowed in my response time.
Looks like Steve edited his post, which sounds as if was a good idea…
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Eric "Bonapart" Cantor
cestmoi312 Thursday, March 3rd at 9:58AM EDT (link)I have long believed that politicians in general, and Republicans in particular, live by one of Napoleon’s primal beliefs wherein he quotes, “If you wish to be a success in the world, promise everything, deliver nothing”
My only hope is that one day, each of these recreants will be, “Hoisted by his own petard”.
Republicans are thinking about future elections
ScottRM Thursday, March 3rd at 2:03PM EDT (link)They know they were NOT put in office to shut down the government. Most voters just aren’t as political as the commenters on this blog. Most of the votes that republicans will need are going to have to come from people whose main interest is the economy, jobs and healthcare. Most voters are not as ideological as many of you want to think they are. People are afraid of the future, and talk of governnment shutdowns, massive cuts to education and you name it, will kill future republicans chances at the ballot box.
Don't blink, Republicans!
RME KRNL Friday, March 4th at 4:08AM EDT (link)With a majority in the House, if establishment Republicans can hold it together, and gains in the Senate, with more to come, Republicans can control the legislative agenda, even if they just keep sending things to Reid which he won’t pass or to Obama which he vetoes. Just explain to the American people how each piece of legislation is good for them or the country and let the failure to pass them keep piling up at the feet of Reid and Obama until 2012.
Also, what you can’t get passed outright, deconstruct and pass piece-meal.
Just don’t stop, don’t blink, don’t be timid and don’t waste the advantages the wave election of November 2010 gave you. If you do, if you find ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, you will also pay a price in 2012, along with the rest of us.
RME KRNL