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Ah, gerrymandering.

Karma. It's what's for dinner.

It’s going to hurt the Democrats quite a bit this election cycle:

The one exception to this bad Democratic news is blacks. They continue to approve of the president at near-unanimous levels. But blacks midterm turnout is also traditionally low compared to white and older voters.

Blacks were 13 percent of the vote in 2008. But blacks were only about 10 percent of the vote in recent midterm election years — like 1994, 1998 and 2006. And if the races since 2008 are any indication, the black vote is unlikely to break historic-midterm trends. This is where Obama’s absence from the ballot matters most.

But what if Obama is actually able to increase black turnout this year? The Democratic majority is most-vulnerable in the House. But Obama’s base, particularly with blacks, is concentrated in secure Democratic districts. In other words, blacks are not sizable factors in the districts in which Democrats need them most.

This was part of an article by David Paul Kuhn on the problems with using Obama’s base voters to shore up the current Democratic House majority. The short answer is, the Democrats can’t, really: the first group (young voters) are both less enthused about voting in general, and less enthused about voting for Democrats; and the second group (African-American voters) are traditionally also less likely to vote in midterms – and, unlike youth voters, African-American voters are ‘clumped’ into already-Democratic districts that were unlikely to flip anyway. The White House is supposedly going to counter this with a 50 million dollar project to convince voters to turn out for Democrats in 2010 with the same intensity that they did for Obama in 2008; I say ‘supposedly’ because people might consider me cynical for thinking that the real reason for this project is to use Democratic party money to set up a program primarily designed to get the President reelected in 2012…

But I get ahead of myself.  For now, just savor this: in their quest to guarantee themselves a minimum presence in Congress, the Democrats have made keeping a majority in Congress nigh-impossible.

Moe Lane

Crossposted to Moe Lane.

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  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The segregation of voters into ghettoes is required by one of the Democrats’ favorite laws: the Voting Rights Act.

    They well and truly hosed themselves here.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    so a Lincoln or a Specter (or their successors) might benefit from a GOTV scam much the same way a high black voter turnout can tip the scales in a winner-take-all electoral college state contest in a Presidential election.

    But Kendrick Meek isn’t exactly recreating the Obama magic (with 18% of the vote in the latest poll…Rubio back on top…..kaching), and it’s hard to believe Lincoln or Specter are not clean or articulate enough to make up for not being black enough.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    “are” clean or articulate enough…

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    Are the New Black Panthers down for the struggle enough for Arlen Specter to bring their night sticks?

  • Adjoran

    Republicans have been just as guilty, as in the SC-06, the Clyburn district which follows I-95 from almost to NC to GA, and is at several points less than a mile wide. It was a deal between black Dems and the GOP for the 1991 redistricting – creating a safe “minority” seat in exchange for ensuring Republicans in the other five. At the time, it was thought the odious John Spratt would be stepping down, but the rat fink has stuck around.

    The real problem for Democrats nationally isn’t the gerrymanders, it is the fact they don’t have any appeal to the middle class on issues any more, so they must rely upon the special interest blocks to keep them in office.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    I love it so much when they propel live rounds directly into their own feet.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    So true, so true. Although I would guess they do sleep snugly in their beds, secure in the knowledge that when they DO decide to do that again, Eric Holder has their backs.

    It’s just not likely to help Specter.

  • jomo2009

    to make every effort across the country to a) support conservatives in primaries for state legislative seats and b) then turnout to elect them in the fall to maximize our position when it comes to redistricting in 2011.

  • patriot601

    Great article! Is his approval among blacks that high because the president is half black (according to his census form he is all black) or is it because he believes in the nanny state and will always have programs giving prizes out to the less fortunate by taking it away from the privileged? I seem to think it’s both but all demonrats give prizes out to the less fortunate but not of them in that position have been black. It’s almost impossible to get 98% of anything but the president managed to get that % from his claimed race and he is still holding strong with mid-90% approval rating even as a proved Socialist and the Great Divider. The only hope I see is God and black conservatives.

  • Dan McLaughlin

    …voter turnout is easier to do when you have contested races at the House District level. Districts racially gerrymandered to the point where Obama got 80-90% of the vote are not going to have such races.

  • lineholder

    I’ve tried to ask questions about this before. We have some African-Americans in our area that are “closet conservatives”. If you were to ask them who they support, they will say Obama because they think this is what they are expected to say and because they are afraid of what other African Americans might do and say if they don’t say they are for Obama.

    But if you start talking to them about issues, a lot of them have conservative values and prefer a conservative approach to the issues our country is facing.

    So, how do you get a “closet conservative” to come out of the closet?

  • IJB

    Instead, you attempt to create a secret black conservative “resistance” that you attempt to quietly grow over time.

    At this point, all getting black conservatives to “come out of the closet” is going to accomplish is getting them heaps of invective from their friends and neighbors, which will likely cause them to abandon any GOP-leanings.

    At this point, I think it makes more sense to build that movement slowly, carefully, and quietly…

  • lineholder

    I’ve been facing some inner conflict on this particular issue, because if they have conservative values, then this is a time when we could actually be in agreement and work together this fall.

    At the same time, if white people get blasted as “racc-iii-ss-tt-ss” for our stand on being conservative, I’ve wondered how dangerous it could actually be for some of the black people I know to step forward.

    I do appreciate your response.

  • ZootSuit

    But first know that no one Black conservative (or White conservative who may have volunteered for Jesse Jackson in their distant past) can speak for all Black conservatives. Just as no one White conservative can speak for all White conservatives.

    But still … to attempt to answer your question as to why Obama gets over 90% approval from Blacks in general it is both a belief in the “nanny state” (by no means universal among African-Americans, and probably not even a majority belief, but still a belief that is present) and a since of ethic solidarity. And in many ways, I think the two are related.

    Quite frankly, I think many of the criticisms against Obama are “racially-tinged.” Not necessarily racist per se but they often contain code phrases that occasionally have a “racist” history. And while I do think this is mostly — indeed, overwhelmingly — unintentional by Obama’s critics, I do think there are a few who know what they are doing. In essence, yes, I do thik there are some few White conservatives that are playing “the race car” against Obama.

    To give you just one example, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard “states’ rights” proclaimed as a rationale against Obama’s policies. But to everyone who heralds the term “states’ rights,” do you know the history of that term?

    “States’ rights” was the clarion call of White racists and segregationists as they Black men, women and children as they were marching for the right to vote. Indeed, “states’ rights” was the justification that White lawmakers and the citizens that continually elected them used for enacting poll taxes or other blatantly racially discriminatory methods to prevent them from voting. “States’ rights” was the reason there had — yes HAD — to be a Voting Rights Act; a law that, while it may have it’s flaws (what law of human origin doesn’t?), is a law that protected the constitutional franchise of literally millions of Americans citizens.

    “States’ rights” was the reason my grandparents were legally prevented from purchasing property they could afford because of the color of their skin. Indeed, “states’ rights” was the reason my wife’s grandfather was legally prevented from making as much money as his White co-workers for doing the exact same job.

    And please note that I am not talking about slavery or the 1800′s or whatnot: That is another example of how “states’ rights” has been used to the explicit detriment of Black people that I will leave for another conversation. I am talking about things that my grandparents, especially my maternal grandparents, and even my parents directly experienced. Indeed, I myself have not been totally immune: de jure abolition did not mean the immediate de facto end.

    So when Black Americans hear conservatives and tea-partiers talk about “states’ rights” as an argument against the President, is it any wonder that they would support him more? That they would connect with him more strongly?

    I am personally probably more of a federalist than most people here on RedState but even I must wonder about the increasing fascination with “states’ rights.”

    Now unless you start thinking I am some “Left-wing socialist welfare recipient” myself, please check my posting history. I was one of the first if not the first person here on RedState to call Barack Obama a Marxist. And I stand behind that description of the President. But just because I agree that he is a socialist does not mean that I agree that he is the “Great Divider.”

    Because quite frankly, although he has many faults, Barack Obama is not the Great Divider. Any non-White President — including a President BlackRepub, or President Martin Knight, or President Zootsuit — would cause such consternation and “division.”

    Trust me, when President Zootsuit ends all farm subsidies, good old boys like Dale Peterson will be up in arms; saying I don’t understand the values of the “family farm” and how they are the backbone of America.

    Indeed, as a relevant sidebar, to every conservative who questions why Blacks continually vote for “big government” and the “nanny state” by electing Democrats, please answer the question why conservatives, who supposedly believe in small government, have continually vote for “big government” and the “nanny state” by electing and supporting Republicans like George W. Bush, Dennis Hastert, Bill Frist, Mitt Romney, and yes, even Sarah Palin?

    Because, quite frankly, the reasoning and rationale given by both are remarkably similar.

    But back on my main point, for the overwhelmingly vast majority, it is not racist. What it is is simple ignorance: I honestly don’t think that the vast majority of opponents of Barack Obama’s policies are aware of the connotations of many of the words they use. And human nature — being human nature — I don’t think many of them want to be aware: very few people — White, Black, conservative, liberal, whatever — want to take the time or make the effort to know and let alone understand much beyond their own personal history or comfort zone.

    Barack Obama is not the “Great Divider”: human nature is. And my trust in the American people is that we will eventually overcome even that.

  • ZootSuit

    Why would you expect Black “closet” conservatives to vote conservatives when White “openly” conservatives don’t vote conservatively themselves?

    And please see my comments above.

  • ZootSuit

    realize that to them, whoever we may want to define “them” at the moment, you are a special interest yourself.

    When you’ve got “good” Republicans like Dale Peterson in Alabama talking about “defending” the family farm and not wasting the “billions of dollars collected to support” them (instead of not taking the money from the taxpayers in the first place and letting the family farm operate in a free market), what’s so “special interest” about anyone else?

  • bk

    And what I also find funny is when you see things like city elections where there are say 40% white, 30% black, and 30% Hispanic. Some “rights” group will say it needs to switch from citywide council elections to districts because it’s the only way to get minorities in office. Hello?

  • ZootSuit

    First of all, it is greatly overstated that African-Americans are ostracized. Yes, it does happen but I personally find it is much less of an issue than it is made out to be.

    But I will say that the real reason that Black conservatives do not vote conservatively is because there really aren’t that many conservatives. Can you honestly say that the last time so-called “conservatives” were in power they did much of anything conservatively?

    Speaking only for myself and the small set of Black conservatives I know, the only thing we hear is how bad Obama is (often in terms that are “racially ;oaded,” see above) when the so-called conservatives don’t have a history of doing much better.

    As a Black conservative friend of mine said when I first told them about the 9/12 rally in Washington last year, “So where were all these concerned White conservatives when George Bush was destroying the country?”

  • drfredc

    The solution is simple, there is nothing in the Constitution that requires Congresscritters to come from ‘districts’. Each state is allocated Congresscritters according to population.

    IMHO, gerrymandered districts put way too many bozos in ‘safe districts’. Modern technology makes communication around even the largest states relatively easy, so why have the districts at all?

    No more Safe Seats.

    Everyone would need to run a full out campaign of the issues — when there are safe seats with silly politics, the silliness doesn’t have run hard to get reelected and it carries over to politics in general. That would be gone with at-large districts. Very few of these bozos could survive for long if the state choose to elect their CongressCritters at large, perhaps alternating with districts. Show some creativity. Haven’t we had enough Shiela Jackson Lees in Congress?

  • JoeG

    I live in Oregon CD5. When CD 5 was created in 1980, it was drawn on fairly natural boundaries, mostly following county lines. It was a R majority district and was held until 2000.

    In the 2000 redistricting, it was horribly gerrymandered so that it could be flipped to a D seat. It includes a stretch that is a freeway wide and another that only includes an unpopulated research forest for almost 15 miles.

    I look forward to re-drawing this district into a more sane one.

  • NotSoBlueStater

    … Action case was being argued before the Supreme Court. I was truly disheartened to hear middle-class, educated African Americans on the radio simply assuming that civil rights and racial preference are fruit of the same tree — as though it were obvious.

    The level of indoctrination of African Americans to the Democrat thought process is stunning, and a little sad. It all drives true equality — the color blind world we all strive to see — much farther away.

  • loupgarou1317

    can we just divide up the states evenly so there is no more of this? But I doubt it will EVER happen……too many want to keep their “power” …….

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Republicans have done it, but only because it is LEGALLY REQUIRED DUE TO THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

    So your bipartisan criticism is shallow and misleading.

  • ZootSuit

    Just as many middle-class, educated African-Americans simply assume that civil rights and racial preferences are the same; many middle-class, educated Whites simply assume that anti-Black racism was never pervasive in America.

    Just recently I was talking with a friend of mine — a middle-class, educated White conservative — about why Black legislators in South Carolina were opposed to a particular voter photo ID bill. When I told him because historically such laws requiring photo IDs were used to deny Blacks the right to vote, he actually asked, “Well why didn’t they [Blacks] vote for Attorney Generals to enforce the laws equitably?”

    The obvious answer is: Because Blacks were being denied the right to vote precisely because they were likely to vote for Attorney Generals who would enforce the laws more equitably!

    He, an educated and intelligent White conservative, just couldn’t seem to comprehend that there was racist, de jure discrimination that directly affected many of the Black legislators and was a legitimate reason for them to hold the position they held. He had been “indoctrinated” that Jim Crow never really existed or at least that it really wasn’t that bad or widespread

    And unless I give you the wrong impression, I (like my conservative friend) also supported the photo voter ID bill. But I recognize the legitimate complaints and fears that such a bill would engender.

    Look, I am adamantly opposed to affirmative action. However, I recognize that there is a very legitimate reason that many affirmative action laws were enacted.

    Do I think affirmative action laws and programs were the correct solution?

    Unlike many of my fellow African-Americans, I would say, “No!”

    But do I think there were very real problems that affirmative action was meant to address; indeed, real problems that had to be addressed?

    Unlike many of my fellow conservatives, I would say, “Yes!”

    That is precisely the thing I’ve been trying to state: conservatives (White and Black) have been indoctrinated just as much as liberals (Black and White). With few exceptions, both sides are ignorant and like to remain that way: instead of engaging in intelligent debate, they simply think of the other as “indoctrinated.”

    Even here on RedState there was an argument going around that when Strom Thurmond was arguing for “states’ rights” he was not in support of segregation. That is lunacy. Thankfully, there were those here who had lived in the South during that time who could address that fallacy.

    As a Black conservative, I probably see and hear from both sides more than most on either side. And the thing that I find most striking — and the thing that neither my White conservative friends not my Black liberal friends want to hear, believe or accept — is that both sides sound an awfully lot alike.

  • ZootSuit

    I particularly remember Bill Bennett in the late 1980′s arguing against the tactics Republicans were using: gerrymandering super-majority Black districts that would elect Democratic representation in order to gerrymander super-majority White districts that would elect Republican representation. I also remember that he was a lone voice against the practice and was catching grief for his stand.

    Interestingly enough, Bill Bennett’s principled stand was one of the things that made me realize that I was a conservative and switch my political allegiance.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    That sounds strikingly different to me and a majority of Americans according to Obama and congressional approval and party ID.

  • ZootSuit

    For the record, I agree that very few Republicans have joined Democrats (and I would even agree with the corollary that more Democrats have joined the Republicans) — interestingly enough, the reverse happened during the latter part of the Bush years — but what does either statement have to do with my post?

    My point is that conservatives use the same time of meme and, dare I say, identity politics, that liberals do.

    My point is that conservatives have the same type of misguided fantasies about liberals that liberals have about them.

    My point is that conservatives are just as ignorant of history and arrogant of their view of history as liberals are ignorant and arrogant of their’s.

    Indeed, I have remarked many times before how the blind adulation and outright self-deception of Sarah Palin’s supporters mirrors the blind adulation and outright self-deception of Barack Obama’s. Moreover, when the votaries of either are confronted by the similarities to the other, the denials are virtually identical.

    That is what I mean when I say that the both sides sound an awful lot like the other.

  • bk

    The way I look at it is that EO and AA are basically in conflict: EO says everyone is equal and AA says they’re not (at least in practice). Things like recruiting at primarily black colleges that were ignored a few decades ago makes perfect sense – if it takes EO as the excuse to do so, then fine, but it seems like a matter of common sense that companies should try to find the best people. But instead of AA meaning things like making that sort of effort, AA ends up being a *wink wink nod nod* quota system, and I don’t see where that does anyone any good.

    Maybe it’s hard to say being white, but it seems like AA cheapens the accomplishments of hard-working black people in some cases. I’ve often wondered when there were quotas whether people got hired who should never have been taken on, and on the other hand whether other blacks who would have been great employees didn’t get a chance because the black quota had been met and maybe they didn’t get as fair a look as they should have.

    The more color-blind we can get the better, but the pendulum is definitely swinging the opposite direction with the Dems pushing “disparate impact” as a determining factor. The ONLY way to defend yourself from that – if you do everything right but the numbers don’t happen to come out a certain way – is to implement a quota system. And I don’t think that helps anyone except lawyers who like making money off racial discrimination lawsuits and Democrats who use to to try to drive a wedge through society.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I think the main difference between the memes, fantasies, etc of the parties are in the silences of the GOP when they should be talking, but mostly not in what they say and how. Do they too often refuse to challenge the templates of the press, yes. I haven’t done psychological profiles of Palin supporters, but hope that this reply is as coherent as my last one, as it produced the information I was seeking to better understand your position. We seem to disagree on the facts, but are glad you are in our corner on Election Day, much as I am most concerned with how elected officials vote on laws, most of all, rather than focus on their rhetoric. God bless.

  • lineholder

    My comment wasn’t meant to be judgmental. I can see how it might have come across that way. And what you have said about white conservatives is nothing less than the truth. White conservatives have been complacent about the issue of voting conservative, and the consequences of that complacency are something that we can’t deny these days.

    But just to give you a better idea of where I was coming from in the comment that I posted, I will tell you this….

    I see people as human beings who all possess the same scope of potential, some of it for good and some of it for evil. The color of a person’s skin doesn’t alter that reality at all.

    I believe in the potential for what is of good that human beings possess. And when I say that I believe in this, I mean that I believe in it down to the very core of my soul. I believe in honesty, integrity, courage, determination, and a lot of other character traits, moral and ethical values that are just part of the value system by which I try to live my life. When I make reference to “conservative values” these are the kinds of things I am referring to.

    I’m meeting African-Americans who express an appreciation for some of the same kinds of things that I appreciate and value, yet they seem to be hesitant to say that they believe in these values. What’s more, they seem to be hesitant to genuinely believe that they are just as capable of what is of good in life itself as any other human being walking the face of this earth.

    That kind of mindset troubles me, sir. I want to see people succeed. I want to see people be able to look at themselves and know beyond any doubt that they do have that depth of potential. And any obstacle that stands in their way of being able to accept that reality about themselves, even if it comes in the form of the ethnic loyalty that you mentioned, could be serving as an obstacle in that human being’s life.

    But whether I like it or not, I’ve had to come to grips with the reality that there are cultural and societal differences between races in our country. I might find myself facing a certain scope of consequences from the society that we live in by choosing of my own accord to try to live a life based on conservative values. It is possible that someone whose skin color could be different from my own would find themselves facing a totally different scope of consequences.

    So I’ve had a lot of questions in my own heart and mind about where the lines are on this issue and to what extent I should try to consider encouraging another person whose consequences could vary from mine to take a leap of faith on this particular issue.

    I posted the comment that I did hoping for some insight into this issue. That was all.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    “Majority-minority” districts are a federal requirement in a lot of states.

  • audax

    Here is a map of the SC House districts. Are you sure your not talking about SC-01?

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/campaigns/2008/house/sc.htm

    SC-06 looks pretty fat to me.

  • Richard Mullins

    unlike the Fetal handgrasp district of TX-18. The good side of that lawsuit that changed a few districts here is that it made them more competitive although it gave the Human Dung of a Congressman, Ciro D Rodriguez a second chance. Before the lawsuit, the districts were very Gerrymandered and after the lawsuit, on TX-18 is Gerrymandered.

  • aesthete

    In talking to some conservatives, it can be difficult to make them understand that some phrases and statements, which are innocuous to their ears, are seen differently by others. Moreover, the echo chamber is a prevailing feature of political life, and it can be difficult for some to see that. (As an example, SB 1070′s mandate for citizens to have their IDs to verify their identities is a de facto REAL ID, whether one agrees with the REAL ID program or not.) Likewise, as you imply, Sarah Palin and George Bush’s hallmarks were government initiatives and (in Sarah’s case) higher taxes. That is true of HCR as well; as awful as it is (and it is awful) calling a plan that is similar to Romney’s Heritage Institute-sponsored plan elides socialism’s definition. That said, I don’t think that it’s quite accurate to say that both conservatives and liberals are equally blinded to truth.

    My experience leads me to believe that, with the exception of a few niches, conservatives are more open to amending and correcting their views when presented with contradictory information. This is partly reflected in the Republican Party’s changing platform (mostly for the better) since the 80s, one example being the move towards free trade. Progressives have many, frankly, unavoidable institutions that confirm their biases (academia, media, popular culture, etc.). such that a day in the life of an urban liberal is more likely to be without contradictory information than a conservative’s day would be. The only comparable institution is the military, and even in that case, CNN (which appears to be the standard on military bases), popular culture, enhanced experiences abroad, and others make it more likely that a leftist academic would be more unexposed to other viewpoints and arguments than any given conservative demographic. Moreover, it makes sense that a party with no real ideological core (Democrats) comprised of competing special interests would require more loyalty from its members than a party with at least some philosophical (if not applied) neoclassical roots.

    Such factors explain the academic who is still surprised that Communism hasn’t fallen, or that it caused such human rights abuses: in his mind, it was a strong, if different, power that we could borrow solutions from, and this idea was only corroborated by his colleagues and his sources of information. As maligned as “dittoheads” are, conservative echo chambers are much more ghettoized than those of liberals: one has to actively look to find conservative echo chambers of equivalent intensity to those naturally found in the lives of progressives. More, when one’s party ranges from free-market social democrats to full-on socialists and communists, those on the left are forced to put their personal place in that spectrum aside for the sake of unity. As a result, members tend to excuse or support leadership even when they engage in actions contrary to their personal beliefs. Because Democrat leadership has trended left and hails from areas that promote extreme leftism, it is easy for social democrats to get used to endorsing San Franciscan, socialist-approved policies. As bad as Sarahmania has been in the past, it doesn’t come close to the level of uninformed cult worship and excuse-making that leftists reserve for their politicians.

  • aesthete

    and missing words. I think one can see the point behind my inadequate prose, though.

  • ZootSuit

    But +90% minority districts that are specifically designed to produce corresponding +70% White districts are not. In that sense, many Republicans were gaming the law themselves.

    And I say maybe because Miller v. Johnson, 515 U.S. 900 (1995) and Shawv. Reno, 509 U.S. 630 (1993) directly addressed the issue of racial gerrymandering.

  • ZootSuit

    Yes, in “absolute terms” I think liberals are worse. Hey, remember, I’m still on the conservative side.

    But what I think makes conservatives worse — or at least, just as bad — is that we have the facts!

    It’s bad enough when you resort to myths and shibboleths when you don’t have the facts but it’s even worse when you resort to myths and shibboleths when you do.

  • ZootSuit

    And the interesting thing is, I know many even liberal African-Americans who agree with you.

    Despite the myths that many Whites and/or conservatives may have, support for affirmative action programs is far from universal within the Black community. Most polls I know say that about a third outright oppose it and another third thinks it must be greatly modified and changed. Interestingly enough, these figures are not much different from the White population.

    The problem is, many White conservatives have jumped on the “disparate impact” bandwagon.

    True story. I have another White conservative friend who was telling me about a lawsuit against the HCR because it has a tax on tanning salons, which are mostly used by Whites. When he first told me about the lawsuit, I laughed. But he was serious; he thought the lawsuit had merit.

    Now just about every tax has some sort of disparate impact (e.g. taxes on cigarettes affect smokers more than non-smokers) and to my knowledge no one is forced to go to a tanning salon (although, being Black I confess that I am only guessing that White people are not forced to go to a tanning salon). If White conservatives like my friend are going to seriously argue that taxing tanning salons is unconstitutional because of a “disparate impact,” then quite frankly they have lost all moral grounds to oppose Black liberals (or any liberals) from opposing “whatever” because it may have a “disparate impact” against them.

    And please make no mistake, I think HCR is an abomination. I just think the argument that it is unconstitutional because of a disparate impact affecting tanning salons is utterly silly.

  • ZootSuit

    Indeed, for many years I have been telling people the exact same things you just wrote. Please check my posting history, I have argued many times that African-Americans are a naturally conservative constituency. Although as a group are just as varied as any other group — yes, there are Black socialists but so are there White socialists in America — African-Americans actually poll more conservatively than the general population on many issues, such as on gay marriage, etc.

    What I am (also) saying is that the problem of these conservative Blacks not voting conservatively is the exact same problem of Whites not voting conservatively. Both sides do delude themselves and demonize the other side. It is just silly for White conservatives to talk about the failings of Blacks when they themselves fall into the very same traps.

    Indeed, please look at some examples I give elsewhere on this page. Indeed, please check my posting history here on RedState throughout the years.

    But again, absolutely no offense taken, Please keep writing; I think you actually get it.

  • bk

    We always hear about how the markets hate uncertainty. I imagine the same is true for business to some extent. If they know the game is that they need quotas to keep Uncle Sam off their backs, then that one is easy to implement. It’s not the best thing for the business perhaps, but if it means keeping Holder away then so be it.

  • Brian Hibbert

    way too much influence. For example, in Illinois, we would be overwhelmed by the Chicago area voters. Instead of Jan Schakowski from upstate and Aaron Schock from downstate, we’d get nothing but Jan Schakowski’s.

  • Richard Mullins

    and they’re not badly drawn since the lawsuits in 2005. SJL’s district is completely urban and it should be re-drawn as to take part of TX-29 in to it. It’s the most gerrymandered district in the state. Things are slightly different in certain states,so an across the board get rid of Gerrymandering isn’t a good thing. It’s something that needs to be worked out gradually.

  • Achance

    the courts usually won’t buy it. If a rule has business utility even if it may impact one protected class more than an other or a protected class more than an unprotected class, the rule will almost always be upheld. Where businesses get in trouble is by making rules for which they cannot demonstrate a business utility, e.g., Commerical Drivers’ License for a job that doesn’t require one, a degree for work for which a prolonged course of study is not required. Degree requirements once had a disparate impact on both women and blacks/other minorities. Now i suspect they have an adverse impact on young white males moreso than women, though older women remain less likely to have a degree than a similarly situated male.

    Unfortunately, it is the threat of lawsuits rather than the reality that causes a lot of the quota and token hiring. You know that when a minority candidate shows up for an interview, you are as likely as not to be looking at a lawsuit and in some instances you are looking at a person sent to that interview for the specific purpose of generating a lawsuit or a HRC/EEO finding. The EEOC and its state and local analogs are highly politicized When under Democrat control, unless the company has political chits to call in, there WiLL BE a probable cause finding and a push to consent to a judgement. Employers see these for the shakedown that they indeed are. Some organization or law firm sends a poorly qualified individual to apply for a job and when they don’t get the job, they allege discrimination. The Democrat EO board says pay $X and hire him/her or we publicly issue a finding or give him/her a release to sue. The employer looks at what an trial and in most cases an appeal would cost and they fork over the judgement money. The Race Hustlers and Poverty Pimps of America have their nice houses and fancy cars by doing this. The Democrats know that the law firms and non-profits that do this stuff know that some of that money best find its way to the Party. It’s a filthy game and it is played in every place in America that Democats control.

    You have the same problem with employee discipline and dismissal. When a supervisor calls HR/LR about a disciplinary matter, the first question any HR/LR person is going to have is whether the employee is a minority. The second is what documented prior discipline or critical evaluations the employee has, and the third is what record is there of other employees having been disciplined for the same conduct. It is almost a certainty that any employee who can claim membership in some protected class will allege that their discipline or dismissal was motivated by their membership in that protected class. Again, where you have Democrat control, the employee will likely prevail. First, Democrats are definitionally good people who are definitionaly tolerant and non-discriminatory, so they don’t want to be accused of discrimination. Consequently, they often won’t let supervisors discipline a poorly performing employee who can claim some protected status. If the employee does get disciplined and the union grieves, a Democrat government won’t usually allow the grievance to run its course to arbitration, they’ll just make a settlement deal with the union. And if the emplyee is non-union, you have the same problem with Democrat controlled hearing boards and EO offices.

    I harp on Democrats because this stuff is an industry for them and they have a whole array of law firms and non-profits that do nothing but hustle discrimination complaints and shake down employers. Republicans on the other hand are almost as bad about letting poorly performing minority emplyees get away with it because Republicans can’t stand the bad press. If you’re a Republican or a private employer with no chit to call in, the accusation of discrimination will be on the front page and the lead story on every channel, but there won’t even be a news story when you win the arbitration, board hearing, or court case. In over twenty years of representing the employer in discipline and dismissal cases in which there was a discrimination allegation, I got told to settle more than a few, settle a few on my own, but of the ones we contested, I never lost but one – and that was because we were blatantly guilty but I couldn’t convince the commissioner of the employing department that he needed to give the woman what she was asking for. And, another thing about Democrat administrations; the only way my commissioner could exercise any authority over another commissioner, even though s/he had the statutory authority, was to go to the Governor/COS and convince him to tell the other commissioner to do it. That was something they were never willing to do because it would require admitting to the Governor’s Office that there was something amiss in the realm. They’d let you just go lose and they’d blame it on your incompetent representation. On that one I lost, the only public statement from the employer was the commissioner of the employing department’s statement that he didn’t think his department was well represented because the State’s representative had had no faith in the departments positions and actions. Damn right I didn’t; bunch of troglodye highway engineers weren’t about to promote that Asian woman, though I think it was actually more about her not going to the right church than about her being Asian and a woman. ‘Course, it is almost impossible to get stuff like that in the record because nobody will testify to it.

  • finaljeopardy

    Where I agree with your argument that subsidies are subsidies and nobody, conservative or liberal, likes to give theirs up, I can still see why states rights are becoming an issue again. In Massachusetts, where Romneycare is a huge failure, the only reason it has lasted is because of federal bailouts. Bay State voters know they are going to have to start paying for this Obamacare failure, as if their own taxes haven’t been raised enough. Some states have been given preferential treatment, Gator Aid, The Cornhusker Kickback, The Louisiana Purchase… what has been made clear to independent voters and Tea Partiers is that state budgets will be affected by this new, costly federal entitlement. States are going bankrupt.

    Even if blacks hear echos of the CRM when they see whites protesting and bringing up states rights, Obama’s opponents are being driven by his fiscal policy, not his race. Furthermore, there is more diversity among the Tea Party than the MFM would like us to believe, but I know blacks are a solid voting block for the Democratic party and I understand why. I can see why many blacks support Obama because of identity politics. It is the best and most honest reason to support him. As a Sarah Palin supporter, I admire her a great deal for having the courage to get in the ring and fight and fend off the arrows that any public official must endure.

    Women are held to a different standard in politics. Even blacks are treated better, for a group that immediately comes to mind when discrimination is brought up. Sarah Palin has disgusting remarks made about her gender, her children, her religion, her economic class, as well as countless lies and an unbelievable amount of projection on the part of her enemies, every day. You and I might disagree on her actual record… I think she is a rock solid conservative… but I can definitely see the value of having a woman in the White House, even if she were as phony as Barack Obama. I disagree with the way the left politicizes femininity, so I think it’s imperative the first woman President should be a conservative. Because the greatest gift of womanhood is life, and this country needs a role model in that respect.

    Sarah Palin’s social conservatism is indisputable. She walks the walk each day, wears her faith proudly without inserting it into her politics, and she is optimistic and unabashedly proud to be an American. That right there puts her on solid footing for national security — she’s as hawkish as Liz Cheney — and fiscal conservatism. Jim De Mint made a fine case for her record as Governor of Alaska in a WSJ op ed.

    Now I have responded in detail to your persnickety comment about “blind adulation and outright self-deception.” Please go through my comment and tell me where I’m being hypocritical.

  • bk

    like you say it doesn’t mean they can’t tie you up in knots over trying to defend yourself against it.

  • ZootSuit

    Please note (at the risk of avoiding legal subtleties) I am against “disparate impact” jurisprudence! I think they are silly and, well, unconservative (if I could coin a phrase). And in fact, I think you both agree with me.

    My point was, why was my White conservative friend (as well as the White conservatives who were bringing the lawsuit in the first place) suddenly finding merit in them?

    That’s the thing. Many of the “foibles” (and I’m being polite here) that the Right justly and accurately ascribes to the Left are the same foibles that the Right themselves exhibit.

  • ZootSuit

    For the record, I did not say that most of the opposition against Obama is racial. Indeed, I thought I wrote just the opposite.

    But what I am saying is that much of the opposition against Obama uses racially-tinged rhetoric against him. Indeed, just like much of the opposition against Sarah Palin uses gender-biased and chauvinistic language against her.

    Quite frankly, there are very legitimate reasons to oppose Sarah Palin. Unfortunately, oftentimes that legitimate opposition is expressed in “sexist” ways. Just as the legitimately reasons to oppose Barack Obama is occasionally expressed in “racist” ways.

    And the interesting thing is, neither side will acknowledge the claims of the others. At best, both the Right and the Left do little more than scream: But what the other side does is much worse!

    As for Sarah Palin, please tell me what she has actually accomplished that is so conservative. Not what she said but what she has actually accomplished?

    Was it her windfall profits taxes on oil companies?

    Was it her lying about being always being against the “bridge to nowhere” and giving the Federal monies back when in truth support for the bridge was one of the cornerstones of her gubernatorial campaign and she kept the Federal monies when the program became an embarrassment?

    Or maybe it was her rearranging monies in a supplemental budget and calling them spending cuts?

    Please tell me her accomplishments and not her rhetoric.

    The funny thing is that despite all of the above, I don’t think Sarah Palin is significantly worse than most. She a politician and an opportunistic one at that; I bluntly don’t expect much from the breed. Indeed, until recently I would argue that I had a better opinion of her than Achance. My problem is with her blind supporters and sycophants who think she is this second coming of Ronald Reagan.

    And yes, finaljeopardy, you do seem t be whining that “her ‘identity group’ is less favored than Obama’s ‘identity group’ and thus it’s important that ‘her group’ gets their chance.” I’m sorry but I have fought against that type of thinking on the Left and I am not going to put up with it on the Right.

  • Achance

    under the just cause provisions of a labor agreement in the eyes of most arbitrators. If Suzy comes to work late one time too many and gets fired for it, the first thing the union – and the LR people – is going to look for is the time and attendance records of other employees in the work unit. If others have been coming to work late and not getting disciplined or getting only minor discipline, Suzy ain’t staying fired.

    If you’re a cynical old L/R hand, when you see somebody just out of the blue getting fired when other people have done the same thing and didn’t get fired, you start looking for who’s getting laid or paid, one of those will usually explain it.

  • ZootSuit

    at the risk of avoiding legal subtleties

    I actually believe that “disparate impact” has a place in jurisprudence, primarily in the “discovery phase” of an investigation. You example with “Suzy” is on point.

    The problem is — and this is a problem with both the “liberal” interpretation as well as that of this particular White friend of mine — is that it has become the ipso facto proof of unconstitutional discrimination.

  • Achance

    Since “Suzy” is presumably female and thus a member of protected class, Suzy getting fired when others didn’t creates the rebutable presumption that Suzy was fired because she was she. The burder of production then shifts to the employer to prove that it had a reason to fire her not related to her gender, then it has to distinguish others who’ve been late but were not fired from Suzy. Trouble is, you can’t really get inside the witnesses’ heads, so a hearing or trial is just a game of liar’s poker unless somebody gets confused or provoked into saying something stupid.

    But you’re right, to the layman the fact that there aren’t many, or maybe no, blacks or women in a particular job is taken to mean that blacks or women are being discriminated against.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • finaljeopardy

    You’re the one whining that most of the criticism of Obama is racially tinged. Since when? Just because an argument for states rights is — to you — a dog whistle that goes back to Jim Crow doesn’t mean that Tea Partiers don’t have a legitimate argument about the impact the healthcare bill, for example, will have on state budgets. Or that the stimulus bill pushed tens of billions of dollars of aid for health care, welfare and education that will disappear in two years and leave states with no way to finance the expanded programs. Or the fact that even in ultraliberal California, a majority of voters opposed same sex marriage laws at the ballot box. There are legitimate 10th amendment issues being raised by the extreme left policies being pushed by this administration.

    Jim DeMint also wrote another op ed in the WSJ, “Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge To Nowhere.” In that piece, he writes, “Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation’s budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.”

    FFY07- Murkowski’s federal requests total: 63 projects @ $349,497,000

    FFY10- Governor Palin’s federal requests total: 8 projects @ $69,100,000

    Governor Palin dropped the federal requests for federal money by 80%, and she had been slowly chipping away at these numbers since the beginning of her administration. She got a lot done in such a short term.

    FFY2007- Gov. Murkowski 63 projects at $349,497,000

    FFY08- Gov. Palin 52 projects at $256,037,000

    FFY09- Gov. Palin 31 projects at $195,094,900

    FFY10- Gov. Palin: 8 projects @ $69,100,000

    Conservatives4Palin have done an excellent job defending here record, and here is their explanation of ACES. “BUMPED: Conor Clarke Doubles Down on Ignorance.”

    What the article you linked to is discussing is a severance tax. State severance taxes charged on production of oil and gas and minerals are common throughout the United States. Also sometimes called “production taxes,” they’re charged by the state from beneath whose land valuable resources are extracted, and they’re designed not to punish the energy companies, but to recompense the state for its loss of a non-replaceable resource?one that must be quantified and taxed upon removal, if it is ever to be taxed at all. Severance taxes are therefore based on production from within the state, not on profits earned by the company extracting that production?even though the production may be measured in, and the tax assessed upon, the market value or gross revenues (as measured in dollars) received for that production, rather than an “in kind” delivery to the state in barrels or cubic feet as such. See, e.g., Tex. Tax Code ?? 201.051 & 202.051 (Texas production taxes on gas and oil respectively).

    This was from Bill Dyer, who blogs as Beldar, a Texas lawyer who has handled cases in this field. His comment was longer and worth reading. But Gov. Palin’s tax bill (“Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share,” or ACES), while it did produce a slight increase in the top tax rate (from 22.5% to 25%)?even as it also “hedges against low prices in the future by ensuring that oil companies exposed to commodity price swings don’t face a crushing tax burden when commodity prices fall”?wasn’t anything like a “windfall profits tax.” It was, rather, an effort to clean up Alaskan politics by writing the tax code on the oil companies out in the open, where everyone could see it, in order to replace the tax law that the oil companies had pretty much written to suit themselves in a back room away from public scrutiny. It was about replacing crony capitalism with a more ethical way of doing business.

    I am perfectly comfortable speaking about Sarah Palin’s record without bringing her gender into the discussion. Just as I believe there are myriad ways you can criticize Obama and his policies, even invoking states rights, without bringing up his race. But the fact that either of them hold such an important place in our culture, Obama as our first black President and Palin as her party’s first woman VP nominee and a contender in the 2012 election, is significant. Both are indisputably inspirational to countless Americans who relate to their biographies. That is a good thing. Palin has had it worse than Obama or Hillary Clinton, and women on the left are curiously silent on the issue, but it’s good that she gets out there and fights. It disarms a lot of stereotypes that many women fight against every day, and if she wins on her own merit, then it changes the way we view women throughout the world, which would be a wholly positive thing.

  • JoeG

    “many middle-class, educated Whites simply assume that anti-Black racism was never pervasive in America.”

    Please don’t take it that I’m calling you a liar; I believe you.

    I just don’t understand where someone could take that position.

    I wonder if this is a regional thing? Is it a whitewashing (no pun intended) of history that they’d rather forget?

    We thoroughly covered the civil rights movement in school. Is that not done elsewhere?

  • JoeG

    While I really hate much of what Tim Wise says, he does have merit in his efforts to attempt to help white people understand how many blacks will receive the words used in conversation.

  • drothgery

    Unless you want to break up high-population states. There’s no way I could make an even vaguely informed decision about fifty-odd congresscritters here in CA.

  • aesthete

    Palin’s budgets (not her federal requests) ballooned to an enormous amount as AK’s governor, and her three main accomplishments in her two and a half years in office were failures: we know that she had to flee the ethics laws of her own creation, her “severance taxes” (which, regardless of rhetorical flourishes, are taxes taking something for nothing, just like any other) and windfall profits tax (a Democrat invention) have hemorrhaged oil development, and her deal with TransCanada hasn’t gotten anywhere.

    Concerning her reversal on the “Bridge to Nowhere”, I suppose you’re free to believe the spin, but in that case, why not take McCain’s 11th-hour conversion to anti-illegalism, Romney’s turn towards pro-life principles, and Huckabee’s about-face towards small government as honest?

    It’s telling that her allies in AK were Democrats more often than Republicans, and that she had terrible relations with Republicans in her legislature. Going back to Zoot’s point, I don’t think Palin’s that bad — in my opinion, she’s your average craven politician who was in way over her head. I am disappointed (though not surprised) that so many conservatives could look at 2 years of failure, cooperation with progressives, and larger government, and proclaim it a model for conservatism. I’m particularly curious as to why conservatives are supporting for President someone whose stated reasons for leaving were attacks on her family and costly ethics probes (which AK would have paid for): two things that won’t decrease in intensity for our Chief Executive.

  • finaljeopardy

    Palin’s claim was that the she killed the Bridge To Nowhere. The facts are that Sarah Palin rejected the money for the Bridge To Nowhere.

    Factcheck.org says…

    The digested version of the time line:

    * Palin expressed support for the bridge while running for office.
    * Congress removed earmarks for both bridges long before Palin was elected.
    * While campaigning, Palin still made statements supporting the Gravina bridge, which had no earmarks at that time.
    * Palin chose not to use the money for the Gravina bridge but kept it for other projects, including the Knik Arm bridge.
    * Biden and Obama voted for the authorization bill, which included the earmarks, and the final appropriations bill, which didn’t. McCain voted against the authorization but was not present for the vote on the appropriations bill.
    * Biden and Obama voted against redirecting the money intended for Alaska to Louisiana. McCain did not vote.

    “(which, regardless of rhetorical flourishes, are taxes taking something for nothing, just like any other)” WRONG.

    According to Alaska’s constitution, the state owns all mineral rights. At the time of the constitutional convention Alaska had a slender economic base. Mining and fishing were the economic mainstays, and neither industry was robust. Proponents of statehood believed that the future of Alaska depended upon the successful development of all its natural resources.

    Alaska. Const. art VIII, ? 11 – 11 (January 1901)

    Discovery and appropriation shall be the basis for establishing a right in those minerals reserved to the State which, upon the date of ratification of this constitution by the people of Alaska, were subject to location under the federal mining laws. Prior discovery, location, and filing, as prescribed by law, shall establish a prior right to these minerals and also a prior right to permits, leases, and transferable licenses for their extraction. Continuation of these rights shall depend upon the performance of annual labor, or the payment of fees, rents, or royalties, or upon other requirements as may be prescribed by law. Surface uses of land by a mineral claimant shall be limited to those necessary for the extraction or basic processing of the mineral deposits, or for both. Discovery and appropriation shall initiate a right, subject to further requirements of law, to patent of mineral lands if authorized by the State and not prohibited by Congress. The provisions of this section shall apply to all other minerals reserved to the State which by law are declared subject to appropriation.

    Repeating… “Severance taxes are based on production from within the state, not on profits earned by the company extracting that production… ” Producers pay royalty payments wherever they extract oil, gas & minerals. The royalty payments actually go to the federal government, not the Alaska state government, under the terms of the deal reached when Alaska became a state.

    And NO the state of Alaska cannot and should not pick up the legal bills for frivolous ethics complaints. The governor cannot use the AG to defend herself against ethics complaints. The AG is responsible for prosecuting violations of the law. In the case of the governor and ethics complaints, the AG is removed from doing so by the law, and an independent counsel or investigator is contracted by the Personnel Board to act in place of the AG.

    Moving right along, TransCanada and ExxonMobil (Alaska Pipeline Project – APP) announced last month the beginning of the open season.

    That sounds like her deal with TransCanada is moving right along. Denali is going ahead with their open season for a competing pipeline to Canada.

    Finally, “and that she had terrible relations with Republicans in her legislature.” LOL Sarah Palin has a body count. Achance called her the “Alaskan black widow.” Sometimes, a little housecleaning is in order. It seems you and some of the posters around here disagree. “I don?t think Palin?s that bad ? in my opinion, she?s your average craven politician who was in way over her head.” Oh, just your average craven politician. No, it’s not like you hate the woman’s guts or anything. As for whether Sarah Palin is in over her head… we shall see :)

  • aesthete

    In between beating my girlfriend and commanding my mistress to make me a sandwich, I mosey on over to Redstate to get off on some Sarah-bashing. That’s the only reason one can have for oppsing her right? Besides being an elitist champagne-sipping RINO, that is (presumably, that one slipped your mind).

    So Sarah Palin supported the Bridge to Nowhere, but used the money apportioned to it for something else: that makes it all better. Mind you, I don’t really care that much about the bridge to nowhere, but I find the mental gymnastics used by the cultists (yes, you are one) to justify The Saint’s flip-flop amusing.

    Saying “It’s in AK’s constitution!” doesn’t make it any less of a tax, it just makes it a constitutional one. More importantly, AK’s constitution doesn’t specify the level of taxation. Palin’s preferred tax scheme (ACES) was a tax hike both sponsored and in part written by AK’s Democrats. It has a component which taxes oil at a progressively higher percentage as price/barrel goes over $52. That’s pretty much the definition of a profits tax, sparky. As a bonus, she used the money raised to “spread the wealth”, as she put it, of oil companies to people who had nothing to do with that wealth (otherwise known as redistribution).

    Much like flying cars and cold fusion, the TransCanada deal has been imminent for a while now. If this time, it turns out to come to fruition, then that’s one point for Palin (though I still dock points for style). More likely, it’s going to amount to nothing, as it has in the past (though I’d love to be proven wrong).

    As for the rest, I’ll leave it to others to explain your lack of understanding of AK’s ethics laws, why consistency in an executive is a trait to be desired, and why allying with Democrats over Republicans leads to unconservative results and governance. You can go back to pleasuring yourself to images of Sarah 2012 now.

  • finaljeopardy

    The former would be my guess. I care nothing about your personal life, and I didn’t call you a misogynist (though I wouldn’t be surprised, either.)

    “So Sarah Palin supported the Bridge to Nowhere, but used the money apportioned to it for something else: that makes it all better.”

    Was the bridge built? No. Did Palin kill it? Yes. Pretty easy.

    “Saying ‘It?s in AK?s constitution!’ doesn?t make it any less of a tax, it just makes it a constitutional one.”

    It’s a federally mandated tax that has nothing to do with Palin but has existed since the state’s charter was drawn up. How about that? And it is a fee that all oil companies agree to. A fee that is the actual production cost and has nothing to do with profits. ACES is based on a formula that increases the tax rate when oil prices rise AND decreases it when they fall. A windfall profits tax is exactly how it sounds; it is a higher tax rate on profits that ensue from a sudden windfall gain to a particular company.

    “More likely, it?s going to amount to nothing, as it has in the past (though I?d love to be proven wrong.)”

    Well, so far it’s going ahead, but that hasn’t stopped you from contradicting reality. An announcement from Transcanada says, “Only one of the two project options will advance and it is anticipated that the results of the open season will determine the preferred option.” That’s a far cry from getting nowhere.

    You seem pretty comfortable tossing off glib assertions without any kind of research whatsoever, actually straight up Democratic talking points, so excuse me if I roll my eyes when you say I need to understand ethics laws better or really get to know the Sarah Palin who allied with Democrats — the most preposterous comment I’ve ever heard. You can now go back to whatever it is that you do besides playing a know-it-all online. Cornhusker Lotion’s in the top drawer…

  • aesthete

    I read “Oh, just your average craven politician. No, it?s not like you hate the woman?s guts or anything” as, “Oh, just your average craven politician. No, it?s not like you hate women?s guts or anything.” I don’t hate Palin (in fact, I think she is superb from a rhetorical standpoint, if a little unsophisticated), but I was more than a little incensed by my reading an accusation that of misogyny, so I apologize for my rude post above; its tenor was unwarranted (though your later questioning of my being a misogynist makes my apology much less sincere than I would like it to be :) ).

    At any rate, I think you miss the point of the outrage over the Bridge to Nowhere: it was a useful example to show how government wastes taxpayer money to redistribute it to politicians looking to curry favor with constituents. Palin’s use of the apportioned funds for another pet project doesn’t make the use of those funds any less bad, it just makes her an astute politician.

    Palin had nothing to do with the AK constitution’s clause on minerals, this is true. She also had nothing to do with the longstanding policy of imposing severance taxes: She did have quite a bit to do with signing into law ACES, which was both a tax hike of a few %s on the flat tax (that part I don’t have a problem with), and which added a tax that gets progressively steeper after $52/barrel. While it isn’t a windfall profits tax (neither was Carter’s misnamed “Crude Oil Windfall Profit Tax Act”, btw), it is something of a rough profits tax in the form of a progressive excise tax based on higher price. At any rate, it was a tax imposed on a barrel based on market value of a barrel to “share the wealth”, and that makes it close enough to be accurately described as a profits tax.

    As for TransCanada, I’ve seen similar public announcements for some time now. Fact of the matter is, Palin gave TransCanada $500 million 3 years ago, and they haven’t done much of anything yet. I hope they do get something out of the deal, but so far, looks like it’s not going to happen. Take that statement as you will; others from AK have been saying the same thing for a while, and so far, they’ve been right.

    Palin working with Democrats may sound preposterous, but it’s true. Any detailed narrative will point her penchant for bipartisanship out, regardless of the ideological orientation of those writing the narrative. Look up Hollis French: among other Dems, she was a good friend of Palin’s, and one of her allies on ACES and other initiatives, much to the consternation of Republicans opposed to this scheme. Of course, 2 years doesn’t really tell one a lot, so I guess we’ll never have a comprehensive look at her governing style. What’s there, though, isn’t encouraging.

    I doubt that this will be an issue: Palin’s much too intelligent to run for President in 2012, and Republicans will put the guy who’s next in line to run for President, regardless of his qualifications. She’s doing a good job sticking it to the Dems and getting ready for November right now, and that’s all that matters. Have a nice day.

  • finaljeopardy

    So we shake hands and wish one another well. I agree with you that the GOP will likely go with “the next in line.” It’s just what they do.