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Gallup whispers DOOM in 2010.

With less than four months to go before the fall elections, the greatest growth industry in the country right now is the tea importation business: everybody who has any interest in the November results is trying his or her hand at precognition.  Gallup is no exception:

This year’s low approval ratings for Congress are a potentially ominous sign for President Obama and the Democratic majority in Congress. Gallup has found greater party seat change in Congress in midterm elections when Congress has had low approval ratings.

Specifically, in the five midterm elections in which Congress’ approval ratings at the time of the election were below 40%, there was an average net change in seats of 29 from the president’s party to the opposition. That includes the 1994 and 2006 elections, when the net change in seats was large enough to pass control of the U.S. House from one party to the other.

They currently track Congress’s approval rating at 20%.This chart from the article handily shows the problem with trying to come up with a good number, though:

As you can see, the numbers go all over the map – and even if you just look at situations where one party controls both Congress and the Presidency, you’re left with too many possibilities.  Is this going to be 2006, where the GOP lost 30 seats (and the House, although 30 won’t do it this time)?  Is this going to be 1994, where the Democrats lost 53 seats (and the House)? Or is it going to be 1978, where the Democrats only lost 11?  Looking at Presidential approval ratings doesn’t help much there, either: Clinton and Carter enjoyed relatively similar ratings at the equivalent points in their careers, and the range between their party’s respective losses in the midterm is almost as large as it can get.

Does this mean that the Democrats are saved?  Of course not: they’re widely hated, directly responsible for some appalling legislation, mistrusted on most of the topics of the day, completely outclassed when it comes to partisan enthusiasm, long since lost the independent vote, beholden to the smallest ideological faction in American politics, reliant on voting demographics that show no sign of coming out in 2010, and largely fighting in territory that rightfully belongs to the GOP.  The combined total of all of this should translate quite handily into a 2010 shellacking for the Democratic party, much to their displeasure, ire, and outrage.  But the above is a better answer than ‘Congress and the President are both below 50%.’

Mind you, the 20% thing is still really, really bad news.

Moe Lane

Crossposted to Moe Lane.

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  • penguin2

    But your posts downright cheer me up. :-)

  • http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/ reaganiterepublicanresistance

    Bet on it!

    By 2012, people will be lying about who they voted for “back in 08″… most will wince at the very mention of the name “Obama”

    And the GOP could take 40 states running Gilbert Gottfried, lol

    OUR side’s winning now… and the Dems will NEVER be trusted with the purse strings like this EVER again- at least not in our lifetimes

  • NeoKong

    With the bad economy, the job losses, the Gulf spill and their refusal to enforce the border I think people cannot wait to vote them out.

    The big question I have is what will be the agenda of a new Republican held House.
    Will they actually try to repeal Obamacare or is all that just rhetoric….?
    Will they propose tax cuts or try to seal the border ?
    What will they do first ?

  • america1st

    As long as it is something other than partisan posturing, it doesn’t matter. With the exception of the military, the whole damn government is broken.

    Economic reform and fencing are the first priorities IMPO:

    (A) Taxing employers into the ground and throwing money into the air like low grade pixie dust should be counter-intuitive to all but the most obtuse of jackasses.

    (B) Enabling illegal aliens to steal jobs from citizens while burdening those self-same citizens with supporting the illegals drain on our social infrastructure is equally brain-dead stupid.

    Attacking those two problems gives us a chance to rebuild our economy and create real jobs – not phantom Census employees. From there, we can proceed to other important tasks – repealing the 0baminable “health care” fraud then addressing the actual problems which have weakened the system. Another one would be the institution of impeachment barry soetoro for the high crime of treason.

  • abeldred

    and there are strong indications that the Repubs will see a strong resurgence from the electorate. However, it cannot be left solely up to a dislike of the Dems and O. The Repubs must come out with a clear plan for the economy, stand firm on repeal of HC and convince people that the will not be Democrat lite in the coming years. Tall order I’d say. And of course there is the real chance that the GOP will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with some boneheaded move. Michael Steele has already proven he’s much like Joe Biden the gaff machine.

    For now, an all out effort to get out the vote and work hard to displace Dem Congressional reps must be the order of the day. If a majority is achieved, it will mark the end of the beginning and we will spend a good long time trying to retrieve America.

  • indyjohn

    Barack Obama was elected by the middle-of-the-road, pocketbook voters who thought that he would somehow return the country to prosperity. After 25 years of unprecedented economic growth, the American middle class has become very intolerant of a stagnation or decline of its standard of living. Republicans received the blame for the onset of the current recession. Democrats are receiving and will continue to receive the blame for its continuation..
    Anyone who voted for Obama and is not blinded by ideology or racial pride has now seen the obvious truth: that Obama, his advisors, and the Democrat leadership are as incompetent as they are arrogant, and should not be trusted with the reins of power. The Dems and their enablers in the media will learn in November that Obama’s much-vaunted reservoir of good will has evaporated, now that it has be exposed to the harsh sun of reality.

  • Aaron Gardner

    How about, “It’s the tyranny, stupid”. It just seems more correct.

  • gwalt

    I still believe these polls are over-sampling the Dems. They justify that by using old data of self-identified D’s and R’s.

    That and people that do participate probably try to sound middle of the road. The last poll call I took was for stationary (?) and they then treaded into politics. How they went from thank you cards to what is my party affiliation and voting R or D was very sketchy and I was vague in my answers.

    Couple that with the elusive Evangelicals who fly under the radar and stayed home en masse in 2008 and this fall will be an interesting case study for honest pollsters.

    These reasons are why when I see a poll, I take 10% off the results (of the positive side).

    I don’t believe for a second Odoogie has anywhere near a 45-50% approval. He’s in the 30′s and staying there.

  • icesweeper

    As much as I would like to celbrate this news, I urge all to remain “humble”. Remember, this is the party of Steele and McCain. They can still screw it up. We must continue to support and assist true conservatives. We need to be the party of bold colors as Reagan said. We will also need to have more than majority votes to counteract the voter fraud, union thug tactics and Franken type legal battles that will ensue.

    Then, once we regain control. We need to LEAD! The recession was brought on primarily by a housing boom, then bust. A true leader in the WH would have taken steps back in ~05 to rein in housing expansion, to a substainable level. Nobody wanted to because all that building created jobs, for everyone from basement diggers to carpet makers.

    As many coaches know, remaining focused until the clock counts down is imperative.

  • throwback59

    the polling stations this November.

  • Tbone

    is that there is 20% of the electorate that thinks Congress is doing OK. These people should all be neutered.

  • partyof1

    In the days leading up to 3/23, plenty of people were congregating in posts just like this one, high-fiving each other over the predicted death of Obamacare.

    I admit that I love reading Dems-are-doomed-in-November posts too. They make me feel better. but I don’t want to feel better. I want to stay hungry and angry. And I would rather read analyses here at RS that keep hammering away at the underlying issues. Victory will come as a consequence of that, and I’ll be glad to high-five you back on 11/3.

  • rdelbov

    I personally question the 20% number–Maybe I need new friends or need to run in a different circle. I am not found anyone to have a good thing to say about Congress

  • Coop

    If the Dems do get slaughtered this November (politically speaking), as I think they will, that will only provide the Obama White House and its lap-dog media the opportunity to incessantly blame the GOP for all the nation’s problems. They do it now, but it falls on deaf ears with the Dems controlling all three branches. However, if the GOP wins the House (and even has a long shot at the Senate), do not be surprised if Obama’s approval rating rebounds significantly and he cruises to re-election. Recent history demonstrates this, as the Impeached Rapist was in serious trouble after Nov 94, yet he recovered in time to win a comfortable re-election two years later.

  • Coop

    Didn’t know I even had a tagline. A very outdated tagline. Shows how long it’s been since I posted on this forum. :-p

  • cwilson

    “decimated” means 1-in-10. With the 111th Congress at 255-178, if they were decimated they’d loose 26 members, giving 229-204.

    No, I’m looking for a little more…payback…than simple decimation.

  • earlgrey

    He gives his harness bells a shake
    To ask if there’s some mistake.
    The only other sound’s the sweep
    Of easy wind and downy flake.

    The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep.

  • earlgrey
  • grinlap

    your tag line. Jack Murtha died Feb 8, 2010.

  • bk

    Union thugs
    New Black Panthers goons
    ACORN/MoveOn cheaters

    RNC
    NRSC
    NRCC

    It ain’t over ’til it’s over.

  • Finrod

    That is, if my memory doesn’t fail me. IIRC it originally referred to when a Roman fighting force was down to 1/10th or less of its full strength.

    So if the Democrats in the House were truly decimated, there’d only be 25 of them left. A cheery, though extremely improbable, thought.

  • earlgrey
  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx
  • Achance

    that mutinied or deserted. The men were assembled and every tenth man was killed.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • Achance

    but even they couldn’t afford to kill off nine tenths of a trained fighting unit. Decimation was a fomal military punishment for a unit that mutinied or deserted in which one man in ten was executed.

    The meaning is routinely butchered in popular speech.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    Butchery confessed. I have frequently heard it used in the errant sense of “survivors”, but that’s no reason to keep using it that way.

  • drothgery

    … unless things actually do get better. Clinton stayed popular because the economy was doing well, there were no major international crisis (or at least nothing that seemed big at the time), and he was willing to work with Newt (and throw congressional Dems under the bus) to ensure that that happy state of affairs continued. Obama doesn’t seem likely to do anything like that.

  • nessa

    Saint Maurice is the patron Saint of Infantrymen. He commanded the Thebian Legion when they fought for Emperor Maximian against the Bagudae circa 360 AD. From the copticchurch.net:

    After the revolt was quelled, the Emperor Maximian issued an order that the whole army should join offering sacrifices for the Roman gods for the success of their mission. The order included killing Christians (probably as a sacrifice to the Roman gods). Only the Thebian Legion dared to refuse to comply with the orders. The legion withdrew itself, encamped near Aguanum and refused to take part in these rites.

    Maximian was then resting in a near-by place called Octudurum. When these news came to him , he repeatedly commanded them to obey his rules and orders, and upon their constant and unanimous refusal, he ordered that the legion should be “decimated”. Accordingly, every tenth man was put to death. A second “decimation” was ordered unless the men obeyed the order given but their was a great shout through the legion camp: they all declared that they would never allow themselves to carry out such a sacrilegious order. They had always the horror of idolatry, they had been brought up as christians and were instructed in the One Eternal God and were ready to suffer extreme penalties rather than do any thing contrary to their religion.

    When Maximian heard these news, he got angrier than ever. Like a savage beast, he ordered the second decimation to be carried out, intending that the remainder should be compelled to do what they hitherto refused. Yet they still maintained their resolve. After the second decimation, Maximian warned the remainder of the Theban legion that it was of no use for them to trust in their number, for if they persisted in their disobedience, not a man among them would be able to escape death.

    The greatest mainstay of their faith in this crisis was undoubtedly their captain Maurice, with his lieutenants Candid, the first commanding officer, and “Exuperius” the “Compidoctor”. He fired the hearts of the soldiers with the fervor by his encouragement. Maurice, calling attention to the example of their faithful fellow soldiers, already martyrs, persuaded them all be be ready to die in their turn for the sake of their baptismal vow (The promise one makes at his baptismal to renounce satan and his abominable service and to worship only God). He reminded them of their comrades who had gone to heaven before them. At his words, a glorious eagerness for martyrdom burned in the hearts of those most blessed men.

    Fired thus by the lead of their officers, the Theban legion sent to Maximian (who was still enraged) a reply as loyal as it is brave:
    “Emperor, we are your soldiers but also the soldiers of the true God. We owe you military service and obedience, but we cannot renounce Him who is our Creator and Master, and also yours even though you reject Him. In all things which are not against His law, we most willingly obey you, as we have done hitherto. We readily oppose your enemies whoever they are, but we cannot stain our hands with the blood of innocent people (Christians). We have taken an oath to God before we took one to you, you cannot place any confidence in our second oath if we violate the other (the first). You commanded us to execute Christians, behold we are such. We confess God the Father the creator of all things and His Son Jesus Christ, God. We have seen our comrades slain with the sword, we do not weep for them but rather rejoice at their honour. Neither this, nor any other provocation have tempted us to revolt. Behold, we have arms in our hands, but we do not resist, because we would rather die innocent than live by any sin.”

    When Maximian heard this, he realized that these men were obstinately determined to remain in their Christian faith, and he despaired of being able to turn them from their constancy. He therefore decreed, in a final sentence, that they should be rounded up, and the slaughter completed. The troops sent to execute this order came to the blessed legion and drew their swords upon those holy men who, for love of life, did not refuse to die. They were all slain with the sword. They never resisted in any way. Putting aside their weapons, they offered their necks to the executioners. Neither their numbers nor the strength of arms tempted them to uphold the justice of their cause by force.

    They kept just one thing in their minds, that they were bearing witness to him who was lead to death without protest, and who, like a lamb, opened not his mouth; but that now,they them selves, sheep in the Lord’s flock, were to be massacred as it by ravaging wolves. Thus, by the savage cruelty of this tyrant, that fellowship of the saints was perfected. For they despised things present in hope of things to come. So was slain that truly angelic legion of men who, we trust, now praise the Lord God of Hosts, together with the legions of Angels, in heaven forever.

    Maurice is a stud of a patron, no doubt. But an archangel trumps a mere Saint…

  • gekster

    He, Ted Kennedy, and most recently Mr Byrd, may thier souls rest in Heaven, have all been called up yonder.
    Three of the biggest liberal Dems in congress.
    Maybe God Is on our side.

  • barleycorn

    1978 was in many respects the last gasp of the FDR Era. The welfare state had not yet been throughly discredited and Jimmy Carter was not yet universally recognized to be clueless.

    Additionally our politics were still dominated by fallout from Vietnam and Watergate, while the Republicans were mainly a party of ?me too only less of it?.

    Two years later political reality started to change.

  • earlgrey

    I went to a tea party over the weekend that was sparsely attended. It was a little defeating, but I hope as we get closer to November there are more people becoming active.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I suspect people are heeding Erick’s call to put down the signs and get involved in electing candidates.

  • northernrockiesguy

    You left out the pantywaist Lindsey Graham

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    indoor activities rather than organizing the next outdoor rally.

    We are trying to convince the leaders of the grass roots conservative organizations, like the tea party organizations, that the time for protesting is long gone and that now the focus needs to be on:

    1. joining forces with the BEST conservative candidate in the primary races and helping Get Out The Vote for those conservative candidates,

    2. joining forces with the Republican Party and helping Get Out The Vote in the general election for the Republican candidates,

    3. while doing 1. and 2., recruiting as many conservatives as possible to become appointed precinct committeemen (too late to become an elected PC for this election cycle) and getting them to attend their respective monthly Republican legislative district committee meetings to “learn the ropes” to become full-fledged, elected precinct committeemen so they can vote for the Party leaders and “take back” the Republican Party from the RINOs in the leadership slots, as is the case in many of the legislative districts.

    For Liberty,
    ColdWarrior, PC (that?s ?precinct committeeman,? not ?political child!?)
    Conservatives, UNITE! CHANGE the Republican Party and save the world by UNITING INSIDE the Party as precinct committeemen. NOW! (119 days until Nov. 2 — what are YOU DOING to help get out the vote in your precinct?)

  • indyjohn

    Yes, Barack Obama is a Hugo Chavez wannabe. But is your average moderate/independent politically aware enough to recognize that fact? I believe that, for an unfortunately large percentage of voters, the ideological motives that drive political decisions are simply too abstract and uninteresting. The finacial consequences of political decisions are concrete and understandable, however. When the swing voters who put Obama and the Dems in power decide that the One and his minions are bad for their personal financial futures, the Dems will be hamstrung and Obama will be finished.

  • The_Gadfly

    admit even to myself. One in particular is as fed up with the Dems as he is with the Reps. Personally I think he’ll continue to pull the D lever, even with his level of disgust. He works in an EPA like agency, and has a kid with expensive medical bills.

    My dad on the other hand has been a life long Rep. He is as disgusted with both parties as the Dem I mentioned above. Not sure which lever he will pull this time around. Last time around I suspect he voted for The Big 0. As far as he could tell the difference between McCain and Obama was that Obama wanted to pull us out of Iraq, and he wanted us out of Iraq. My assessment differed from his only in that I think we need to stay in Iraq. He’s as stubborn as I am and I could not convince him of the necessity of staying in Iraq. If McCain had made more contrasts with Obama, I might have had something to work with in trying to argue him into voting for the Rep. That same thing will apply in the upcoming election. It isn’t enough for the Congressional approval ratings to be at the bottom of the outhouse: Republicans need to paint bold contrasts with the current administrative policy pronouncements.

  • Coop

    … seemed very unlikely to tack to the center back in late 1994. Political self preservation usually outranks ideology. Hey, if the lightweight Marxist continues on his leftward lunge, great. But I think a shellacking in November will significantly slow him down. And instead of trying to shove his agenda down America’s throats, he’ll whine (something he’s very good at) incessantly about how the GOP is the cause of all America’s problems.

    Don’t think it will work? The American electorate – with the help of a left-leaning media – put a man with NO leadership experience at all into the Oval Office with 53% of the vote.

    Old tagline officially scrubbed!

  • deano64

    at an outdoor rally around here right now anyway. :) But, on a serious note the tea party in my county seems to be most interested in getting the right people elected to office rather than running around protesting on a street corner on a Saturday morning. We’ve also got a fair number of tea party folks that are also PC.

  • teresakoch

    but I also don’t know what question was asked, and what answers the pollees were given to choose from….

  • teresakoch

    The protests were just a start. Unlike the folks with SEIU, ACORN, and the like, most people on our side of the aisle actually know that protesting will only go so far. You have to put your money where your mouth is.

    Tea Partiers are, I believe, working to bring the Republican party back to its fiscally conservative roots. We’re still out there, but now we are starting to do the constructive work that is necessary to bring about the results that we were trying to achieve. Washington has amply demonstrated that they aren’t willing to listen to us, so we are going to make sure that they don’t have a job in the future.

    We understand that government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and we are letting the government know that they no longer have our consent. Fortunately, there are plenty of young people coming along with us who will be driving the next generation’s decision-making. From what I have seen of them, our country is going to be in really good hands in the future.

  • earlgrey

    Just so you know, I had come to the rally with Republican party flyers and was prepared to give out the web address for The Precinct Project. I was hoping to bring in some new recruits.

    I agree that is what we need (people working on the inside). Further, what is there to protest against now that they have passed so much. It is really payback time.