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DCCC retreating on November results.

Again.

It’s not quite counting coup on my part – I had suggested that by about June the DCCC would be bragging about how they’ll keep us from getting enough votes for veto overrides – but I am pleased to see that the slow march by the Democrats towards objective reality is continuing.

SlowlySlowly is good.

…the last thing Dems need is a group of major donors convinced that another check will just be throwing good money after bad.

But the goal posts keep moving. At other times over the last 2 years, Dems have said their goal was to limit losses to fewer than 10 seats. Dems later said they would gladly take a 15-seat hit, assuming the environment might worsen further. By Feb., Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), who leads the DCCC’s incumbent retention program, said they party would lose fewer than 25 seats.

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On Tuesday, DNC chair Tim Kaine acknowledged the possibility of losing the House. But, he said, that’s not anything new, citing an average loss of 28 seats in midterm elections for an incumbent party — though he hinted that party losses might be much greater.

Regular readers will remember my own skepticism (and mockery) of this tentative, haphazard retreat from the 2008 electoral madness that gripped the Democratic party.  And, believe it or not, but this is still tentative and haphazard.  The Democrats are on the thin side of a 9:1 ratio of in-play House seats (at this point in 2008 it was 3:2 the other way).  As Hotline notes, their cash advantage for the House has gone from $40 million in 2008 to about $16 million now; but that’s not even the whole story.  In 2008 the Democrats had roughly eight times the cash to spend on House races than the Republicans did; now they have a bit above twice the amount, despite a 70 seat majority.

This might not matter, if there was a genuine sentiment among Democrats about fighting in November.  But there isn’t.  All the emotion and anticipation is on the Republican side; poll after poll shows the Republican candidate picking up independent voters, which is usually a good indication of enthusiasm levels.  Meanwhile, a bunker mentality grows more prominent among the Other Side.  Even the Democrats’ vaunted Red-to-Blue program has been reduced to spend as many resources defending what the Democrats already hold as they are on their largely-mythical ‘offense.’

I’m not claiming a rout.  Yet.  But it’s three and a half months to the election, and the Democrats are acting more and more like people who know that they’ve already lost, but are trying to either deny or hide it.  Which is perfectly reasonable enough, because that’s what’s happening.

Moe Lane

Crossposted to Moe Lane.

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  • http://www.wolvesofliberty.com GJ Merits

    It’s all good news with one very scary side effect. The potential for a lame duck session to pass very damaging legislation. The question nobody seems to have an answer for, but there are plenty of opinions on is: will loosing Democrats be ticked off at the electorate or ticked off at Obama, Pelosi, and Reid? If the later, then we have nothing to worry about. If the former, then we have plenty to worry about.

    Then there is the promise of lucrative lobbyist positions or other goodies should they vote with the triumvirate of SOBs even if their anger is directed at them.

    Your opinion?

  • earlgrey

    Also, we can’t be complacent. Look at Reid/Angle race. it is getting close.

  • rdelbov

    so no election is over until the polls close and in a few places until the votes are counted. So take nothing for granted-be generous with time and money this year as it matters so much.

    Let me also suggest that we will see among the senate races in NH-PA-FL-KY-OH-IL-WI-MO-CO-NV-CA-WA(12 races in all) 8 races decided by 6% or less. Think Chris Christie tight in NJ. When the polls close we will be sweating results all night long. Folks looking for 20% wins for the GOP in OH-MO-PA are going to be disappointed. A 6% win in CA for Carly F will be a landslide ditto for MO-PA-OH.

    In the house races we may win +50 (or more) seat but you will see 20+ races being decided by 100 votes to 4%. You going to see a lot of very close races. +9 or so on the generic ballot does not mean every race will be a landslide.

    So the big momentum is in our favor but don’t take anything for granted

  • mtt_from_nc

    You have two good points here, and we have to watch these developments even closer than we have watched the carnage over the last two years.

    I would add to this one additional concern, in the case that the Republicans do actually take back the Congress, and it’s this:

    Will the Republicans fulfill their promises and undo the damage that Obama & Co. have done, or will they pull a “Pelosi,” getting elected on promises to fulfill the hopes of the people, then, once their seats are secure, they simply play that same old game of politics and money? I don’t have much faith in either of the major parties anymore, and while my hopes for the Republicans is there, it isn’t high. All the same, Obama’s agenda is not fulfilled, and won’t – can’t – be within the year. Therefore, I’m glad that the chances are high that we might at least get a Congress that could put the brakes on his insanity until 2012.

  • mtt_from_nc

    If you’re right, then I expect a LOT of contested races and recounting of ballots. And what do we make of the ever-present election fraud and voter intimidation that seems to be condoned – even encouraged – by our loving, vigilant US DoJ?

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …is largely a problem faced by supporters of the national party that’s losing. People don’t really like to think about how bad things are until they have no choice; that can last all the way to Election Night…

  • indylawyer

    On that note, will the senate candidates elected to fill vacancies take office immediately after the election, or wait until January? If its immediate then our ability to filibuster should be enhanced by the addition of a few new GOP senators.

  • IJB

    You can go back and look at this historically, but Senate contest generally fall all one way (or the other) in the same elections.

    So even if you see a bunch of “close” races, if you see NH, PA, OH and FL, for example, fall to the GOP, you can be relatively sure that pretty much all the “close” Senate races throughout the rest of the country will go the same way.

    In terms of the House, you’ll know early (by 8pm-ish EDT) how it’s going to shake out:

    0) Scenario #0 – the GOP picks up *no* seats in IN & KY: DISASTER; get your guns, and head for the hills, because something really bad is coming.

    1) Scenario #1 – the GOP picks up IN-08 and IN-09: the GOP will pick up seats but it’ll be close as to whether they take back the House.

    2) Scenario #2 – the GOP picks up IN 02, 08 and 09: the GOP will likely take back the House.

    3) Scenario #3 – the GOP picks up IN 02, 08 & 09, and KY-06: starting to be a bloodbath, and the GOP will pick up 60+ seats.

    4) Scenario #4 – the GOP picks up IN 02, 08 & 09, *and* KY-03 (all the seats they lost in ’06 and ’08) & KY-06: BLOODBATH! The GOP will pick up 80 (or more seats). If they pick up IN-01 or IN-07 as well, it could be +100 seats.

    So you’ll know pretty early on how things will go in the House…

  • swami7774

    ..we take 55 seats and the House.
    We’ll take about 6 in the Senate, which is good. We don’t want to give Obama an entirely GOP Congress to triangulate against in ’12.

  • Composer_Man

    Well, if the newly elected Senator and the retiring Senator are friendly (i.e., from the same party), they could do what our Senator Phil Gramm did when John Cornyn won his seat. He resigned in late November or early December so Cornyn could be sworn in early.

    He was doing it to try to give Cornyn some extra seniority, but it didn’t actually work. However, it would certainly allow the new senator to vote on things in the lame duck session.

    Although, now that I re-read your question, this probably won’t help. If you’re talking about new GOP senators in seats that are currently filled by Democratic senators, there’s no way they would leave early.

    (Can’t you just imagine Pat Toomey asking Snarlin’ Arlen if he would step aside early for the benefit of the people of Pennsylvania?!)

  • rdelbov

    WV-if there is an election-as soon as the votes are certified

    NY-if Gillibrand loses as soon as the votes are certified

    These seats are also up in 2012

    CO-IL-DE have appointed senators that under more state laws would last until Jan 2, 2011 as that is will their terms end. In IL there may be a second election for the Nov 2 to Jan 2 time period. Two senate elections–one for two months and one for six years. That is still not settled.

    Great question to ask–I don’t know for sure what CO & DE laws are.

  • rdelbov

    as in say 1980-1986-1994-2000–2006 nearly all or alll the close races went one way. Leahy & Hart won close races in 1980 and Kit Bond won a competitive race in 1986 but that is what makes for a wave. Nearly all or all of the races go your way.

    What is so bad if when you lose one of those nailbitters. Whatever happened to Pat Leahy after you won 50-49 in 1980–3000 votes.

  • tragiconda

    A rout of EPIC proportion.
    I’m not even worried about “jinxing” it by thinking so.
    Elections turn primarily on the state of the economy and 9%+ unemployment would yield VERY high turnover if that were the sole factor in play.
    However when you throw in the disastrous healthcare debacle and the sheer arrogance in passing it by such underhanded means against the will of the people you add another HUGE debilitating factor to the dems.
    Then we have the image of the neverending oil spill in people’s minds and the drilling moratorium.
    Then we have the specter of immigration “reform” and the az. lawsuit.
    Then we have the prospect of carbon taxing which clear thinking people KNOW will result in nothing but huge profiteering in credit swaps by a select few and vast job loss and increased costs for the rest of us.
    Then consider the facts that Obama’s down to 38% among independents, the youth and minority vote WON’T be there, a demoralized base and incredibly energized republican voters and tea partiers.
    Even the most optimistic GOP polls are understating the scope and devastation of the dems by a good deal and it’s dawning on them.

  • WoodstockRedCat

    “People don’t know if Republicans would do a better job or not”.
    If the spin/lie becomes more and more “they are all bad”, it will be evident that the MSM is trying to get as many R’s caught up in their faux “anti-incumbant” vs. “anti-DEMOCRAT incumbant” tide.

  • ralatredstate

    As I read the latest news I could find, the Court has ruled that there must be a special election and the remaining question is whether it can be held concurrent with the Nov. 2 election.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-election-20100706,0,2890623.story

    This might take a little of the poison out of the lame duck session.

  • bobojake

    Most every person that works at a business responds very postively and a lot of times they will talk to me about how obama and the obama crats is destroying business, jobs and the economy. I just ask each and every one in your daily converstions on the phone remind the other party in your good bye to vote in NOV and Thank them for voting against the democrats.

  • indylawyer

    But the Delaware seat is for a term that goes until 2014 – Biden won re-election as he was being elected Veep. I assume that would work the same as NY & WV.

  • IJB

    Especially come-from-behind wins.

    Heh.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • Menlo

    I’m still holding to my prediction that the Republicans will gain 2 senate seats and 2 dozen house seats.

    Admittedly, I was quite shocked by today’s SUSA poll (and first I’ve seen to date) showing Ma’am Boxer behind. I’m thinking it’s an anomaly, but we’ll see.

  • JSobieski

    but a two senate seat pickup is nuts. Care to put money behind that prediction?

  • Richard Mullins

    It’s all Here and it seems that McCann came up big. I’m happy Micheal Bourn made to the All Star this year(only Astro in it this year). Maybe, it will get better for the ‘Stros when Bourn comes home on a natural high.

  • Richard Mullins

    and further more thinks that Dems have momentum to halt the tide. It doesn’t seem that way with all the polling data to the contrary. A solid 5 pick up coming(a few nail bitters like CA,WA and maybe WI might fall either way).

  • IJB
  • Menlo

    However, I forgot about DE, so I’ll change that to a 3. My thinking is that Republicans lose FL and gain IN, ND, AR, and DE. The changes in CO, NH, MO, OH, PA, KY, and NV will be a wash. As of now, I don’t think there will be any change in any other state.

    I’m not certain enough to bet money. It’s just my informed guess.

  • Adjoran

    While it is true that the Democrats who have been defeated in November (and also most of those elected) will have no incentive not to pass odious legislation in the lame duck session, others will be more hesitant, especially if the expected Republican wave materializes.

    And Republicans will have every incentive to use every possible parliamentary device to derail such outrageous attempts to thwart the will of the people – especially in the Senate, where there are many ways to slow or block legislation short of a filibuster (which we should be able to sustain anyway).

    It’s just another Obama fantasy outcome.

  • Oz

    It’s good to be aware of it, but hopefully we’ve got enough of a coalition to prevent this.

    Card check for example is something that the NE-Three seem very likely to oppose.

    What I would like to see is a bill introduced through discharge petition to extend the Bush tax cuts before the election.

    I’m not sure they have time to write one, let it age, and get it voted on, but it would be another tool in the election.

  • JSobieski

    because I would very much like to take that bet.