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The Matter of Pelosi.

Bob Shrum, November 4, 2010: “Long after the midterm stories have faded, and the predictions of the President’s political demise prove as facile and false as they were with Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, history will accord Pelosi an unprecedented scale of achievement for a House Speaker.”

Bob Shrum, September 30, 2010: “Democrats will hold the House and Senate. ”

Shrum will no doubt mutter that he was right about Boxer, Murray, Reid, and Coons (while resolutely ignoring that he was wrong about Sestak and Conway, and avoided completely talking about Giannoulias, Ellsworth, Feingold, Meek, and Lincoln); but he completely miscalled the House results, mostly because Shrum is incapable of recognizing that the American people did come out en masse in response to the Democrats’ policies.  It’s just that they came out en masse against the Democrats*.

And that leads us back to the Matter of Pelosi.  I don’t really want to belabor the point, but trying to keep her as House Minority Leader is not consistent with the attitude that Pelosi’s accomplished something of lasting value by cramming Obamacare down the collective throats of the American people.  If she had, they wouldn’t be so desperately eager to keep the soon-to-be-former Speaker in the fray.  The reality of this is that Obamacare is unpopular, and it had been unpopular since it was forced into law, and it has been remarkably resistant to attempts to rehabilitate its public image.  This is what distinguishes it from, say, civil rights legislation, Medicare, and/or Social Security; and since America was founded on the principle that you don’t have to simply accept that other people can pass damfool laws without checking with you first**, well.

Make no mistake: a quarter of the new House majority was elected on the explicit promise to get rid of Obamacare, and the rest of the GOP House caucus will be expected by their constituents to follow suit. Defund it, poison-pill it, throw the entire thing in regulatory and administrative knots until 2013; I’m not an expert in Congressional procedural minutiae, but the folks on our side who are and who are in government are going to have a busy couple of months coming up with something suitable.  That the Democrats are even contemplating keeping on the thoroughly-rejected soon-to-be-ex Speaker to fight that says more about the weakness of their supposed contribution to the ages than anything that I ever could.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

PS: “Tea-b*ggers?” I was unaware that Bob Shrum was a homophobe.  Well, live and learn.

*And the Democrats in the Senate should be breathing a huge sigh of relief that we only elect 1/3rd of them at a time: extrapolate that ‘mere’ +6 GOP gain (with no Republican losses) over a hypothetical entire-Senate contest, and you get a shambles.  In fact, +6 GOP is a pretty good shambles all on its own.

**Yes, we were founded on other principles, too.  We’re a big country: we can accommodate multiple ideals at once.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.facebook.com/BigGator5 BigGator5
  • gazill

    unprecedented scale of achievement. I suspect it will go down in history as such as well. Unfortunately for her, I do not think it will be a positive historical event (barring the liberal educational interpretation/rewrites inevitable in our school system). I credit her with the stimulus and the health care atrocity, mainly because I do not think The One can write his own name without help from anyone. Those bills were written long before Obama was elected as a state senator. He just believes in the ideology so figured, what the heck, lets ram it through, and let Nancy and Harry manipulate the process.

  • Conservative_not_Republican

    to support Pelosi’s campaign to be minority leader? Keeping her, harry and Obama as the face of the opposition would be great.

  • jokemachine

    but this is shocking to me. Republicans have the House thanks in large part to Ms. Pelosi, and yet she wants to stick around to do more damage to her own party by scaring off independent voters. This seems too good to be true.

  • calgacus

    I bet she wins fairly easily. The Blue Dogs got wrecked this election there are hardly any left.

  • Scope

    I can’t believe that this witch is going to run for the minority spot. I’d be willing to bet that she doesn’t get it. When people like Bawney had to actually campaign, and run ads, and had some moments of real fright at losing, I doubt they will support Queen Botox for any leadership position. It also doesn’t help that she has the lowest approval rating of any politician. Stimpy will get it.

  • powertothepeople

    for us. She will continue to run her mouth, trying to force her liberal agenda on all of us, and doing her best to stop every initiative the republicans try to pass which in turn will keep many voters pissed off at her and the left. Same goes with Reid, while it would have been nice to see him fired, he was able to scrape by and if they keep him as leader which they will, he will be another polarizing force for us. Already Obama has suggested he will extend all the tax breaks for everyone where Reid stated no way it will happen. These two idiots are so entrenched in their liberal ideology that for the next two years they will continue with reckless abandon and keep people mad. Two years from now their continued presence in the face of the public will help us rid this country of even more dems. Should Shular win the position, he knows how to pander well and people will not be as mad. Lets hope Pelosi continues on her current path along with Reid as we have enough now to stop them all while keeping their behavior a focus for voters.

  • clintonformccain

    Pelosi would not be running for minority leader unless she already had the votes in her pocket.

    Sideshow: Steney Hoyer tries to give the black guy the ol’ okie doke by stealing Jim Clyburn’s minority whip job.

    I’ll be right back. Gotta run to the store to stock up on popcorn.

  • http://www.facebook.com/BigGator5 BigGator5

    I’m happy I kept my “Fire Pelosi” stuff.

  • mikefrey

    and so avoids the whole “let’s give the new gang some the benefit of the doubt” brain fart. The new gang = the old gang.

  • Common_Cents

    They refuse the will of America. I hope they remain DEM leadership until 2012. There are plenty on the left who may want leadership change/afraid of re-election but there are many more left goons who will go on business as usual trying to run this country into the ground.

  • Common_Cents

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Maobama cut deals w/ Reid and Pelosi to try and ram everything through in a scorched earth campaign, promising them some plumb spot in his “2nd” term. haha.

    Somehow I doubt this admin is gonna play nice. I say they throw a tantrum, take their balls(well they dont have any) and go home.

  • Tbone

    the “Republican MVP Award” for the 2010 Election.

    We couldn’t have done it withoutcha.

  • gwalt

    What better person to represent the Dems than an out of touch ( and out of a jet I might add) non-Happy Meal elitist from the BrokeBay area of California. Or should I say Hellifornia after a few months of What Can Brown Do For You?
    Absolutely nothing.

  • student

    Shrum miscalled the election arguing that the tide had turned. Shrum’s paen to Pelosi is more of his typical sucking up. What a loser. Meanwhile I sooooo hope the Democrats keep Pelosi. She is absolutely the Perfect representative for the Congressional Democrats. Think about it. Old outmoded discredited ideas represented by an old discredited politician. Completely out of touch with reality, just like her constituents and per his comments that this was a communications problem, Obama as well. Completely self absorbed and narcissistic, just like Obama and her constituents. Absolutely aggressive in insisting on driving the bus over the cliff – just like Obama. She is the Perfect Democrat. They should definitely keep her. Could not happen to a more deserving group of guys and gals.

  • IJB

    I cannot see how Heath Shuler especially, and to a lesser extent Mike Ross and Jim Matheson, can walk this development back.

    If Shuler runs against Pelosi, and loses badly, it is an absolute *rejection* of so-called “Blue Dog” politics by House Democrats, and I don’t see how Shuler (and the others) will have any other choice at that point but to announce they are switching to the Republican Party. (Most of them will lose subsequent 2012 Primary challenges, a la Parker Griffith, but they won’t have much choice but to take the risk…)

    But if these guys stay on board after literally *running* and voting against Pelosi, they will have destroyed their last tiny shred of credibility with the voters in their districts, and will be surely booted out in 2012 (if they don’t lose in a Dem Primary to a Kos/OFA-inspired “Progressive” first…).

    This development is amazing, because it nearly guarantees that the last vestiges of moderation will be expunged from the Democrat caucus.

    And that will be Pelosi’s *real* historical legacy.

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  • hardwired

    If Pelosi is re-elected to a leadership post, can you imagine how difficult it will be for the Democrats to recruit candidates for House races? And while they’re at it, it’s not too late for Jimmy Carter to run for a second term.

  • swami7774

    …oh-for-(what: 8? 10? 11?) Shrum.
    Keep talking, Bob.

  • kowalski

    Bear with me here, because I’m being deliberately contrarian:

    What reason does Nancy Pelosi have to quit? Certainly nothing in her own mind or the minds of the people who reelected her, who consider this election to be a horrendous aberration. Among her own caucus she is both respected and feared, and in her own mind at least the Democrats have *not* lost the majority in the House.

    If anyone had asked me to put money on the bet that Nancy Pelosi would quit even if the Democrats lost every other seat but hers, I wouldn’t have done it. You’re dealing here with a person of unique determination. She ain’t going out precisely because she and her constituents believe she should have retained the Majority and more than anything else, they want to see her redeemed.

    She’ll never leave until she passes away due to old age or decides to retire. She’s a permanent fixture of the House and has no intention of letting one crummy little shellacking get under her skin.

  • Adjoran

    Pelosi definitely has the votes, her people can count the votes and she would have stepped down if she wasn’t sure she’d win. The losses of the Blue Dogs make the Democratic House Caucus even more liberal, and Pelosi-friendly.

    It’s going to be very interesting to see Hoyer scrambling for a position. The CBC will not take very well to Clyburn being shunted aside.

  • Rusty_S

    NC-11 is a conservative district that went for McCain in ’08. Shuler would actually be better off personally as a Republican. He hasn’t done anything but irritate the Asheville liberals with the few conservative votes he had to make to stay viable in the district, and distancing himself from Pelosi was a big part of his campaign. He was already primaried this year by the left, and had 40% opposition.

    By already being on record against Pelosi, he has a built in excuse to switch when Pelosi wins.

    But, realistically, neither the Democrats or the Republicans have the bench here to overcome Shuler’s name recognition and money. If he didn’t get taken out as a Dem this year, he probably never will, and he actually won pretty handily.

  • kowalski

    Nationally, in terms of favorability, Nancy Pelosi is probably one of the 5 most despised members of Congress — but that has absolutely nothing to do with why she is there in her own mind, why her constituents vote for her, and why she believes it will be better for her to stay than to leave.

    She’s a victim, first of all. She’s a victim of Fox News, of Rush Limbaugh, of Sean Hannity, of Ann Coulter, of the Wall Street Journal, of the Tea Party, and of anyone else who ever dared not to like her. Just the act of not liking her made her a victim.

    The national negative sentiments couldn’t matter less to her. She is a Messianic Narcissist and she’s been reelected by people who enjoy that about her. Moreover, the last person in the world they blame for her troubles is her, or any of the things she’s done as Speaker. To her, this is just going to be a slightly different set of processes to master for the next two years, until she can get back into the Majority.

  • AKSteveB

    Gene Taylor of Mississippi being the other one. Why in the world are they still in the Democratic Party? It can’t be helpful in their careers, and most of the party hates their guts.

  • Robert Allen Leeper

    It would have a further demoralizing effect on those remaining.

  • tngal

    Lifting the oh so heavy gavel and walking it through the small people took a toll on her vertabrae, I’m sure. But with a scooter and cane she can still wack the ankles of her underlings.

    She’s like that scary looking aunt on somebody’s side of the family that nobody will admit to, and she keeps showing up at Thanksgiving dinner with strained peas.

  • kowalski

    It isn’t even that so much as the belief that this election was a completely crazy outlier of an election and none of the Democrats who lost deserved to lose.

    I’m quite sure that Pelosi believes some version of that, and not only will she not quit because she doesn’t want to demoralize anyone any further, she just completely disagrees that she should even *consider* it. In her mind, in the minds of people at Vanity Fair, in the minds of a lot of pundits and other commentators, this election was an irrational and inexplicable brain fart of an event that should never have occurred.

    She’s not going to quit just because of some crazy thing that she thinks happened here in Jesusland.

  • kowalski

    Democrats like Pelosi really, truly do believe that people voted for Republicans in this election because they cannot accurately perceive their own self interests. Bill Clinton certainly believes it. Most of the politically-minded academic liberals I’ve known believe it. And I am 110% sure that Nancy Pelosi believes that the only reason she lost is that people in the rest of the country were duped and lost their way, and don’t understand what is truly in their best interest.

    It’s not a matter of pretending: they really do think this, and they have good reasons for thinking it, a long chain of arguments that are very convincing, at least to them.

    Nancy isn’t quitting because she truly believes the people misspoke in this election, that they didn’t know what they were doing, that they had been duped by people like Erick Erickson and everyone prominent here on this blog. She is your ideological enemy, and quite consciously so.

  • Robert Allen Leeper

    that she’s the best face for the minority now.

  • SoFiMil

    Well done. (The substance of your diary is fantastic, too.) : )

  • calgacus

    Now he got his just rewards. It is a shame. He did not have to go w/ the Pelosi crowd.

  • Michael Dugas

    You have to take into account a few things. One is that she’s a Dem in a leadership position and she’s from San Francisco. That automatically puts her on the outside looking in when it comes to relating to the average citizens of this country. She is a true believer in socialism that is surrounded by far left wing yes men…errr people.
    She truly believes that she knows better than everyone else and that the citizens of this country who don’t agree with her are idiots that don’t know what’s good for them.
    She’s a left wing elitist who would have no problem with the transition to a dictatorial despot.

  • SoFiMil

    Heck, the WH could even credibly claim this was SOP, as the West Wing has hired plenty of other lefty pundits, er,,,journalists.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Even the hard core leftists in the MSM would be having conniptions, Every press briefing would be a three ring circus.

  • SoFiMil

    nt

  • SoFiMil

    And re-use it in 2012. Glad you support recycling, BigGator5.

  • SoFiMil

    ..

  • romeg

    In for a penny, in for a pound.

    Trying to give Peolsi credit for all her accomplishments would be like trying to give Hitler credit for his accomplishments prior to his becoming Chancellor of Germany. No. I don’t think Pelosi is Hitler. Just that the tactics used by her bear striking similarities.

    He used thuggish tactics and exploited the rules and weaknesses of the Parliamentary system under which the leader of the majority party or the party with a plurality that can cobble together a coalition takes control of the government.

    Fortunately, under our Constitution a Hitler cannot rise to Head of State unless he assassinates those in line ahead of him/her, something not likely to occur even in the worst of situations. But abuse of one office and power is not limited to monomaniacal racists. Even doting grandmothers are susceptible to the corrupting influence of untrammeled power.