Did Dupnik dismiss Loughner threat?


I have a rule of thumb: if I write a post on a topic, and I get either hate mail or hate posts about it, then I’m onto something. Well, yesterday I wrote a post on Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik’s rather strange tactical decision to imply that the Chinese were behind Jared Loughner’s attempted assassination of Giffords*, and I got both.  Apparently, the Left was not too happy at my suggestion that Sheriff Dupnik’s re-election chances have taken a fatal hit; which was perhaps a bit surprising, because I’ve had Arizona political mavens tell me that Dupnik’s typically seen as being fairly safe.

Well, about that.  Reportedly, Loughner had a history of making public death threats that been ignored by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

Let us be clear: it is not a matter of controversy whether or not Loughner made death threats, or at least it should not be.  As was reported by both local sources (via here) and Reuters, Sheriff Dupnik himself revealed that Loughner had made death threats against at least one person who was not Congresswoman Giffords.  This happened.  What the The Cholla Jumps site is alleging – and which has not yet been confirmed- is the following:

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County.

The question is, is this true?  We don’t know – yet – but it’s certainly plausible.  Again, we know that there were death threats made, because Dupnik himself admitted that they had happened (that’s the NPR link).  And we also know that Loughner was sufficiently unstable to have been thrown out of college as being, frankly, a menace to the local community.  And when I say ‘thrown out’ I want it to be understood that the police were involved, because they were.  But it could be that this is not actually a true report: a violent paranoid schizophrenic with a history of erratic behavior might have managed to restrain himself to making death threats to one specific person outside of the jurisdiction of the Pima County Sheriff’s Office – thus making him not specifically the problem of one Clarence Dupnik.

But if it comes out that the Sheriff’s office was aware of the threats, and did not act on them, then Clarence Dupnik needs to stop blaming the Right for the murder of six people and start blaming himself.  Because Sheriff Dupnik is not in office to, say, fight partisan battles over state immigration policy: he’s in office to keep the peace.  If he’s forgotten that, the voters will be happy to remind him.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

PS: Heh. Great minds think alike.

*Executive summary: Dupnik revisited the ‘foreign countries (read: Chinese) were funneling money to the Chamber of Commerce’ conspiracy theory nonsense that the Democrats tried to throw up in the last months of the 2010 election cycle (and that progressives revisited after the election was safely over, in stunningly typical fashion).  Megyn Kelly gutted him for it, but in a gentle fashion.


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Here's another way to tell if Dupnik has some culpability:

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 3:56PM EDT (link)

if NBC and other left-leaning national media outlets start to airbrush him from the screen and news pages. I thought he was just a shameless demagogue with fascist tendencies, but this blog report rings true even if it hasn’t been confirmed yet.

 

Dupnik is Culpable

jimbo51 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 3:58PM EDT (link)

When is the media going to pick up this thread. I coulda swore that I heard Dupnik mention in a CNN (?) interview this weekend that “Loughner was on their radar”. I was amazed that this never elicited a follow up question. I have been trying to find that comment in video clips and can’t so far, but I bet that if Joe Arpaio was the Sherriff, the media would be all over it!

I heard that too.

uselogic Tuesday, January 11th at 1:12PM EDT (link)

But I’m not longer amazed by the lack of follow-up. CNN and the rest of the lemmings no longer have any journalistic integrity.

Oxymoron

rubicon01 Tuesday, January 11th at 5:29PM EDT (link)

Journalistic integrity. Two words that can never again be used in the same sentence w/o qualification or explanation.

 
 
 

Dupnik is Culpable

jimbo51 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 3:58PM EDT (link)

When is the media going to pick up this thread. I coulda swore that I heard Dupnik mention in a CNN (?) interview this weekend that “Loughner was on their radar”. I was amazed that this never elicited a follow up question. I have been trying to find that comment in video clips and can’t so far, but I bet that if Joe Arpaio was the Sherriff, the media would be all over it!

 

Ahhh. The Lefty-Dog Distraction Tactic...

Patricia_C (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 4:02PM EDT (link)

When other dogs come in your backyard and start sniffin’ where you burried your bones, point across the street and bark, “SQUIRREL!”

“Even when you fall on your face, you’re still moving forward.”

 

Loughner's mother is a member of the local city council

Scope (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 4:06PM EDT (link)

according to what I’ve heard. He was arrested once for a drug charge, but the penalty was lessened, supposedly because of his mother. There was another arrest, for unknown charges, but again, no penalty, because of the mother. I’ll try and track down an article to back up what I’m saying.

Laughner’s parent’s knew, knew, knew that their son had some very serious mental issues, yet, apparently they did nothing about them.

 

Look out

redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 4:34PM EDT (link)

AoSHQ banner proves the right wing is in on it.


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If one overlooks

proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 4:57PM EDT (link)

the poor spelling and lack of citations on the blog linked, it is an intriguing story. This Sheriff has some explaining to do.

Try to remember any other federal case in which when a law enforcement officer shared his opinion as to motive so openly — I doubt you can think of any. Demonstrating motive is the prosecuting attorneys’ job. The Sheriff’s public speculation about motive is extremely unwise and taints the potential jury pool. Regardless of how we feel about the suspect, he is entitled to due process, so why on earth would a law enforcement officer hand the defense the tools they need to ask for a change of venue, or even a mistrial?

It is possible that this Sheriff is simply poorly trained and a few crayons short of a box, but this is LENF 101.

Really troubling.

I think Dupnik's aiming for his own TV show.

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:05PM EDT (link)

He sure isn’t taking his role as sheriff very seriously. It’s all about the cameras.


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He'd be right at home on Mess-NBC. nt

TNJim (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:11PM EDT (link)

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LOL

speciallist (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:16PM EDT (link)

‘He’s everywhere!’…..awesome

 

But who will play Aunt Bea and Thelma Lou? nt

proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:27PM EDT (link)

Well, we know who would play Barney Fife

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 9:03PM EDT (link)

:)


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overlooking some things...

kpbenware Tuesday, January 11th at 7:13AM EDT (link)

This just might, if looking from one direction, be a leftist sheriff purposely polluting the jury pool in an effort to help a fellow leftist, in spite of the fact that the fellow is a maniac and a murderer.

 

Trial

rubicon01 Tuesday, January 11th at 5:35PM EDT (link)

It is patently obvious already this man will not be tried in Arizona, if only because he killed a sitting Arizona Federal judge. The supposition already is, the trial cannot be fair. Presumably killing a judge prejudices the jury pool, but killing a nine year old does not? Not sure where that logic comes from! When I heard the Sheriff speak, I knew this issue was going down the toilet. I agree I have never heard a Sheriff speak like this & especially just after an incident. I think he may have wanted the change of venue to reduce the exposure of his office & its involvement (or lack thereof), in past issues!

 
 

Sheriff?

steve010 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 5:16PM EDT (link)

Ok, this stuff happens in seconds, but take a few of scenarios. A sheriff’s deputy is standing near the Congresswoman. The suspect approaches and points the pistol at the Reps head. He fires hitting the Congresswoman, but the deputy is tackling as the shot is fired and the shooter is knocked off his feet dislodging the weapon. A nine year girl survives, a Federal Judge survives and others are not dead or wounded.

Another scenario, a sheriff’s deputy is standing near the Congresswoman. He notices a young man moving quickly forward. He moves in the way and blocks the movement of the young man. The young man says he wants to talk to the Congresswoman. The deputy says that the young man needs to back up a little and wait his turn. The young man turns around and leaves the scene.

Number three, a sheriff’s deputy is standing next to the Congresswoman, he sees the young man moving quickly and spots the pistol. The deputy lunges with arms raised to take the bullet. The bullet hits the deputy in the upper arm, as he knocks the weapon to the ground and tackles the shooter. The deputy cuffs the suspect and is treated for his wound by a doctor in the crowd. No one else is hurt.

The only problem here we can’t speculate on these scenarios because the Sheriff chose not to send any deputies to protect his supposed friends.

No deputies? Doesn't make sense.

chbroussard (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 1:25PM EDT (link)

I was required to pay for two police officers at the location of my daughter’s wedding reception. Standard procedure for the club. Can’t imagine that any political gathering where several hundred are expected to attend wouldn’t require a police presence. Incompetence, maybe?

 
 

Even if none of it was true,

Return to Revolution (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 5:26PM EDT (link)

and knowing that every congressperson can’t have a secret service detail, is it unreasonable to expect someone, say the SHERIFF, to dispatch a cruiser to public events? I mean, since he KNOWS how dangerous talk radio is and all….

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 

Hey...I don't want to be accused of "over heated rhetoric" here...

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 5:40PM EDT (link)

but could it be that the whole reason Sheriff Dupnick started lobbing bombs at Beck, Limbaugh, Fox News etc is to distract attention from his failure to deal with Mr.Loughner because he knew he’d dropped the ball leading up to this

Maybe now he’s pointing fingers in such a loud and public way to cover his own inadequate performance leading up to this tragedy?

Again, I wouldn’t want to be accused of overheated rhetoric here but…inquiring minds want to know.

MarkTwain 3

Ya think?

renny (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:58PM EDT (link)

I would be shocked, shocked.

 

This does not pass the smell test.

antisocial (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 12:00AM EDT (link)

What motive does this genius have of accusing everything and everyone else but his own department? This fellow needs to go.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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Reuters: Arizona suspect had made death threats-sheriff

carolina Monday, January 10th at 5:43PM EDT (link)

Some info about this sherriff are leaking into more of the main stream media.
Good.

 

Reuters: Arizona suspect had made death threats-sheriff

carolina Monday, January 10th at 5:43PM EDT (link)

Some info about this sherriff are leaking into more of the main stream media.
Good.

 

I think people are starting to

steve010 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:22PM EDT (link)

figure this Sheriff out. In my Congressional District, I’ve never been to a townhall type meeting without a couple of officers there.

This Sheriff didn’t send any deputies to this public gathering. Plus, his office was well aware of this wacko and had dealt with him in the past. The media is not asking this Sheriff the right questions.

Probably, if he had just had one deputy there, this whole thing could have been averted or at least lives would have been saved. One of the eyewitnesses said that the shooter was running through the parking lot and the crowd. I’m not a law enforcement expert, but I think a deputy might find that a bit odd?

Um, yup.

kowalski (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:31PM EDT (link)

There wasn’t a single security or police officer on hand for Giffords’ event. Then the Sheriff got on TV and blamed … guess what? Anything but himself.

 

I've been to dozens

phxg (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:45PM EDT (link)

of political gatherings and only once, the Jeff Flake town hall in Chandler in Summer 2009 were there police present. And the only reason there were cops there, City cops BTW, was for traffic control.

By no means am I supporting the Sheriff, I want all AZ sheriff’s to no longer be elected. However, this event took place in Tucson, so it would have been the city cops who would have provided security. Unless of course the Congreswoman hired off duty OT, then it could have been anyone.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

oh, they were probably there

robobbob Tuesday, January 11th at 7:43AM EDT (link)

at least they always are in my district
next time, look around. If you happen to see a guy or two hanging off to the side or back of the room in “overlook” position. young to middle age, short hair. constantly scanning the crowd instead of watching the speakers.
not all officers wear uniforms, especially for informal meet the folks gatherings were spontaneous rioting isn’t expected.

 
 
 

If I thought I had to rely on a guy named Clarence Dupnik to protect me,

Tbone (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:25PM EDT (link)

I would just shoot myself and get it over with.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Ha, Ha, Ha

Warrior (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:18PM EDT (link)

you made my day…

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OK, here's how mental health works in AZ

phxg (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:36PM EDT (link)

Under AZ law, the state must provide, at taxpayer coat mental health treatment. This can be as simple as counseling services to court required involuntary in-treatment. Magellan Health Services is the specified provider and they do a fairly decent job of managing those who need help. It takes some pretty Herculean efforts to get into “the system” but someone who has presented by making threats will get the proverbial 72-Hour mental health hold.

At this point we do not yet know if Laughner was in the system. If he was it would be HIS responsibility to take his medications. I can’t tell you how many times I have been dispatched to triage a “crazy person” who is off their meds. Unless the police (Pima County Sheriff) take the effort to contact TERROS (the quick response mental health folks) to hand off care to acual mental health professionals, then he would likely just be let go.

Mental Health in AZ, while offered to those who need it is largely voluntary, often the patients are non-compliant and almost always reactionary to those that purportrate heinous crimes.

I had to deliver to the mother of this case the official death notification that her 14 year old son was murdered by her brother and stuffed in a trash can.
It was me, sitting on the living room floor with all the family around, who had to explain to Loggan’s 8 year old sister that her beloved brother was not coming home.

The only difference is that Loughner used a gun. Mental health, specifically Schizophrenia is a scary and often volatile problem. People with this problem are most always fine, don;t cause any undue problems and while suffering, do not lash out. But when they do it’s often very violent.

So answer me this: If mental health patients are required to take their meds, how do we as a society ensure compliance?

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

Why wasn't a deputy at

steve010 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:44PM EDT (link)

this meet and greet?

See above

phxg (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:47PM EDT (link)

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

phxg- I absolutely see your problem

Scope (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 8:04PM EDT (link)

and sympathize with you. There was a report out, not long ago that claimed that some high number of Americans suffer from some form of mental illness. I think that report, wherever it came from, was meant to dilute the real problem of mental illness. If you call everyone crazy, the most crazy amongst us escape detection.

In the case of this domestic terrorist, Loughner, he slipped through crack after crack in local law enforcement. I do believe that at some point in the future, we will see how the Sheriff, and his mother, thwarted any recognition of his severe problems. The Sheriff is the one with blood on his hands, not the mental health professionals that seem to not even have been called. You can lead a horse to water, but—-

There is the problem.

phxg (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 8:35PM EDT (link)

It’s no different then the “Sex Offender Forever” issue. Mental illness, specifically Schizophrenia is one that is a lifetime affliction. Medications do pretty good at controlling the problem, but only if the meds are taken. How can we control these people without incarcerating them without they having violated the law? In the past mental asylums kept these people separated from society, but that model is no longer acceptable.

I once had a case where the PHX cops were stumped. Neighbors called about a man smashing pumpkins in his yard. Seemingly harmless, if a little odd. The cops found that he indeed was in the Magellan system. Having broken no laws this Pumpkin Man could not be arrested, even though he admitted to being non-compliant with his meds. I spoke with him for quite a while and it turns out he has Auditory Schizophrenia, hearing voices. Those voices were telling him to take the axe and chop peoples heads open. He was still in command of enough sense to realize that would be a bad thing, and was chopping pumpkins instead. THIS IS NOT THE NORM.

Paranoid Schizophrenia is usually the one that motivates the person to do amazingly destructive acts of evil. What is most unnerving is to us, we can differentiate between reality and fantasy. To the Schizophrenic, the voices/images are as real as this conversation.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

"...that model is no longer acceptable."

Warrior (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:43PM EDT (link)

No, but it could be if it were reviewed and reworked to ensure patient rights.

I recently wrote a diary relevant to the issue here:

http://www.redstate.com/warrior/2011/01/09/mental-health-care-is-not-a-budget-priority/

I too am a mental health professional and I see the tragedy of untreated mental illness every day. We need a serious and workable solution that ensures patients’ their rights as long as they take the responsibilities of their own treatment seriously.

It is possible, it only takes concentrated motivation, organization and effort. However, we would all be safer if an accountable system were in place…

“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma

Treatment

rubicon01 Tuesday, January 11th at 5:50PM EDT (link)

OK, so the old way is no longer politically acceptable. Some say there could be a system if we worked at a revised approach.
So, what do we do? When do we do it? How do we start this & get the ball rolling? To whom do we go to?
The very real fact is, there are far too many folks on the streets who are in the welfare, benefits, or other systems who are mentally unstable.Yet none of those systems are capable of handling them. So they go untreated.
It is unreasonable to say we can let this go on. None wants to pay for this, but none wants to deal with the aftermath of such tragedies either.
In this case, the Sheriff apparently knew this guy was not altogether together! If we find a family member intervened to keep him out of the hospital or out of reach of mental health professionals, then perhaps some will want to prosecute the family too.
But the REAL failure, i the Sheriff knew beforehand, will be the failure of, the Sheriff. The same guy who did his level best to invoke all sorts of responsibility & vitriol against anyone on the right. Don’t look at me, look at them. Perhaps he really was deflecting so as to avoid investigation into his departments failures?
I agree we need an up to date model the ACLU & others will let us operate for the sake of society and the mentally ill!

 
 

That model is very acceptable to me

Tbone (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:46PM EDT (link)

and most rational people. Lock. Them. Up.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 
 

If this report is true,

littlehouse18 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:50PM EDT (link)

then the sheriff could even be deliberately tainting the case for the mother (plus covering himself and smearing the Right ).

 
 
 
 

In response to Phxg....

sigcooper Tuesday, January 11th at 9:06AM EDT (link)

I know there are schizophrenia medications for aggression that are injectable and last for about 2 weeks (Respidol?). They are highly effective and relieve the patient of having to remember to take that particular (but important) medication. If a person has committed a crime can a court order these injections as part of probation?

I ask this because I know a family whose son is schizophrenic. He commited several crimes, was making serious verbal threats, and was arrested. He was a ticking time bomb. After the arrest he was immediately hospitalized for several weeks, given these injections and his behavior stablized. While taking the injections he is “gentle as a lamb” (his old self). He believes the court ordered him to take the shots as part of his probation. If he doesn’t show up for his injection, his parents notify the police and they knock on his door THE NEXT DAY and ask why he didn’t show up for his shot. So far, this has worked and he immediately goes to get the shot. They have a system in place to deal with the problem immediately before he starts to become delusional again. Having a nurse give the injection gives them a way to monitor whether he is taking it or not.

I’ve seen what this family has done for their son and how the attitude of the police (extremely kind and sympathetic) has given them the courage and confidence to be open about their sons illness and trust them for help. I can’t help but think that Jared Loughner’s family and the police were neglectful in the way they treated him. Court, jail and accountability for ones actions can be a very motivating influence even when someone has mental health issues.

 
 

What bothers me is . . .

Michael M. Keohane (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 7:25PM EDT (link)

Arizona has the most gun owner friendly laws in the country. You don’t even need a permit for concealed carry. Yet, with all that, there was not a single “armed citizen” at that gathering. Never mind no police presence – where were the “armed citizens?”
I would have thought that, in Arizona, there would be one or two “armed citizens” in a group that big. Even one “armed citizen” would have been able to stop the killing. As it were, the unarmed citizens had to wait until the shooter was reloading before they could act.

Do not classify the words or deeds of your opponents as being hatefull, malicious or criminal in nature if they can also be easily characterized as simple ignorance or gross stupidity. Anon.

One of the heroes that restrained the shooter was carrying

oblio Monday, January 10th at 9:11PM EDT (link)

but he was already down before he had a chance to shoot (according to his testimony on FN). I believe he stated that he was in the store when the shooting started.

 

This was a gathering of Democrats, so that may explain why only one person was packing a firearm.

d_lamar Monday, January 10th at 9:44PM EDT (link)

oblio Monday, January 10th at 10:38PM EDT (link)
 

Were the crowd all Democrats?

southernpatriots (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 9:21AM EDT (link)

Could it possibly be, we are just surmising here, could it be that those in attendance were leftists or leftist sympathizers, socialist Democrats, who came to hear the Congresswoman and leftists oppose guns and gun rights (as did a local judge who advocated against gun ownership for years from bench until he was robbed and the robber came at his children and he shot the robber dead, then quit his diatribes from the bench against guns and gun ownership)? If that is the case, it would explain why none had a gun to stop this murderous spree as a similar spree was stopped in Dallas a few years ago by a patriot with a gun who sacrificed his life to save the lives of many.

 
 

Oh My, Moe.

romeg Monday, January 10th at 7:27PM EDT (link)

Gutted?

Careful now or this word will have to be deleted from the lexicon.

Along with phrases such as “Kill the Obamacare legislation” and “Target Markets” and the like.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

 

the sherrif is on parker/spitzer and doubles down on Rush

Common_Cents (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 8:11PM EDT (link)

Still accusing Rush specifically and those on the right are inflaming things. Dupnik offered no evidence when asked, but just says that is what he believes.

the media is using Dupnik as a sacrificial stooge to get out their agenda but when the facts prove him wrong he’ll be thrown under the bus.

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.”
-Ben Stein

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche

O'Reilly slammed Dupnik pretty hard in his opening

carolina Monday, January 10th at 8:29PM EDT (link)

The rest of his show is continuing the discussion of his DISGUST with the left and the media – especially Krugman and the NYT. I think the NYT is going to be sorry. Krugman too. We shall see…..

 

O'Reilly slammed Dupnik pretty hard in his opening

carolina Monday, January 10th at 8:29PM EDT (link)

The rest of his show is continuing the discussion of his DISGUST with the left and the media – especially Krugman and the NYT. I think the NYT is going to be sorry. Krugman too. We shall see…..

They could care less what O'Reilly says

Scope (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:38PM EDT (link)

just as I do. Neil Stevens has better things to say than O’Reilly ever does.

Unfortunately that git has a huge, huge audience

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:42PM EDT (link)

I sort of understand the appeal, in the sense that I understand why cows follow the lead cow.

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He's doing The One (termer's)

redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:44PM EDT (link)

superbowl interview. Check your mute button


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'Neck, say it isn't so.

lineholder (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:51PM EDT (link)

When O’Reilly gets around The One, he acts like some star-struck suck up.

It’s nauseating.

How do you think he

redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:57PM EDT (link)

gets those high ratings interviews on the Forbidden network?


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Yeah, but it still gives me a gag reflex [nt]

lineholder (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 9:58PM EDT (link)
 
 
 

I found it interesting that O'Reilly thought his comments would make them stop.

carolina Monday, January 10th at 10:31PM EDT (link)

I. personally, find that hard to believe.

 
 
 
 

he's not a sacrificial stooge...he's a willing participant...

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:12PM EDT (link)

this is making him famous…and will lead to celebrity appearances on Mathews, Olberdork and all the lefty news programs

he’s in the limelight and he’ll keep making these pronouncements and even ramp them up continuously to get attention.

The only thing that will stop him is something embarrassing…like our finding out he could have prevented this and didn’t

MarkTwain 3

No and yes.

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 11:47PM EDT (link)

He is a sacrificial stooge, and likely will be tossed under the bus in a couple of news cycles. Watch for the first question about his department’s response to Loughner to be asked tomorrow. His usefu tool days have to end before the president makes his way down to Tuscon. But, yes, he is milking his 15 minutes and will continue to do so until that first question becomes the only question anyone will ask…not that the media will be doing its job, mind you, but just to get him out of sight and out of mind.

Yes..that's an interesting take on it....I can see that as a distinct possibility

AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 12:44AM EDT (link)

even probable

very interesting

MarkTwain 3

 

He is being pimped by the media to say what they really want to say themselves

Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 11:09AM EDT (link)

The sheriff would NOT get so much exposure if the media didnt agree with his propaganda spewing out.

It is no wonder he is probably the MOST interviewed person on this tragedy, why? He wasn’t even there. He says what the left wing media wants to say so badly, so they keep putting him on.

Look at the gun control rhetoric being coordinated and building now.

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.”
-Ben Stein

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche

 
 
 

For Whom the Bell Tolls

rubicon01 Tuesday, January 11th at 5:58PM EDT (link)

If we find out the good Sheriff knew of this problem, acted to cover for a family member who worked for the government, or any other cover he may have provided. If he is covering for his lack of action or for his failure to offer up officers to provide protection at an event, or whatever, and we find out HE knew…
Well then it will be time to see him pay the price with his job and serious civil litigation. The truth is, if he has been deflecting attention away from his failures, then the right needs to seriously make a mockery of the media who defended him, supported him, encouraged him, & supplied him with the bully pulpit to push his agenda driven comments.
I suspect he knew. I suspect he is covering. I suspect he wants us to look elsewhere & not at his failures. I suspect the old establishment liberal media may also know, but they too will downplay this if not ignore it in hopes the public does not realize the vicious attacks launched by these people since the crime, are as bogus as their claims on health care or other do-gooder government programs to “take care of us.”
How shameful will it be if he/they really are covering?

 
 

I need to change my name to confused

steve010 (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 8:47PM EDT (link)

This Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer for Pima County. He intimated on one of the numerous tv shows that he has appeared on that he doesn’t get involved in the townhalls etc.

I guess he thinks he isn’t charged with protecting the elderly people who were gunned down or the 9 year old girl that was gunned down. Maybe he feels that he isn’t charged with protecting a Congresswoman or a Federal Judge, but just common sense tells me that the buck has to stop somewhere. He can play the jurisdiction game all he wants, but how come we haven’t heard from the Chief of Police of Tucson, if that is his jurisdiction? It must be the Sheriff’s responsibility since he is the one fighting to get in front of every microphone on the planet.

AZ Sheriffs are blowhards.

phxg (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 1:10AM EDT (link)

Every one of them. This guy is just taking a page from the Arpaio playbook.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

 
 

Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment, is subject to recall

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 10:41PM EDT (link)

Dupnik needs to go down…..

http://www.azsos.gov/election/IRR/Initiative_Referendum_and_Recall.pdf

ARTICLE VIII. REMOVAL FROM
OFFICE
PART 1. RECALL OF PUBLIC OFFICERS
§ 1. Officers subject to recall;
petitioners
Section 1. Every public officer in the state
of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by
election or appointment, is subject to recall from
such office by the qualified electors of the
electoral district from which candidates are
elected to such office. Such electoral district may
include the whole state. Such number of said
electors as shall equal twenty-five per centum of
the number of votes cast at the last preceding
general election for all of the candidates for the
office held by such officer, may by petition, which
shall be known as a recall petition, demand his
recall.

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Not gonna happen.

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 7:22AM EDT (link)

And the key is…

…is subject to recall from
such office by the qualified electors of the
electoral district from which candidates are
elected to such office.

Insert comment about live boy or dead girl. And in Tucson make that live boy AND dead girl.

Change

Arpaio: Dupnik Should 'Shut Mouth' on Political Agenda in Tragedy

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 7:32PM EDT (link)

Arpaio: Dupnik Should ‘Shut Mouth’ on Political Agenda in Tragedy

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Giffords-Dupnik-Arpaio-Arizona/2011/01/11/id/382540?s=al&promo_code=B727-1

Pima County Sheriff Dupnik has sought to link vitriolic rhetoric in politics, and talk radio hosts such as Rush Limbaugh, with the actions of Jared Loughner, who is accused of killing six and injuring 14 in Tucson.

Asked about Dupnik’s efforts, Arpaio says: “I don’t like to criticize my colleagues, but he’s elected and I presume he says what he wants to say. I don’t agree with it.

“I’m a former top federal law enforcement official and understand you have to be very careful when you’re conducting an investigation to make sure there’s no pretrial publicity that may affect the case and give the perpetrator a chance to use comments made, especially by the chief investigator, which happens to be the sheriff.

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Of all the people on earth to criticize Dupnik

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 11:07PM EDT (link)

Arpaio is the DEAD LAST person to any credibility.

I agree that Dupnik is an idiot and apparently a crappy Sheriff. But it’s Tucson and he’s in the mainstream down there.

Oh, and Arpaio likes nothing better than criticizing his colleagues.

Change

 
 
 
 

How Does He Keep his Job?

jerseydevil Tuesday, January 11th at 6:25AM EDT (link)

How is it that this Sheriff…DUPNIK…keep his job when he has said he will not enforce the laws of the State of AZ? WHO elected him…HOW does HE get to pick and chose what HE will enforce…like AZ’s Illegal Immigration laws…and get away with it! I think Gov. Brewer should start looking into this man and his law enforcement record!

Chris
“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either – but right through the human heart.”
Alexandr Solzhenitzyn

He's a Democrat in a city that is slightly to the left

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 7:20AM EDT (link)

of Berkeley.

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How Does He Keep his Job?

jerseydevil Tuesday, January 11th at 6:25AM EDT (link)

How is it that this Sheriff…DUPNIK…keep his job when he has said he will not enforce the laws of the State of AZ? WHO elected him…HOW does HE get to pick and chose what HE will enforce…like AZ’s Illegal Immigration laws…and get away with it! I think Gov. Brewer should start looking into this man and his law enforcement record!

Chris
“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either – but right through the human heart.”
Alexandr Solzhenitzyn

 

Sherriff is not to blame

republicanconscience Tuesday, January 11th at 7:34AM EDT (link)

Let’s face it it is the Congress, PC Police, ACLU and the Liberals who are to blame for tying the Chief’s hands behind his back with anti-profiling. A woman can get death treats from an X report the threat and the police will not do a thing. NO Crime was committed yet. People are afraid to report stuff because if police intercede with that information the the person reporting the incident can be sued. So we get Tucon.

“Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.” – Thomas Jefferson

He is to blame...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 7:55AM EDT (link)

he neglected his duty to protect his citizens and instead of putting his nose to the grindstone to get to the facts of the case he is throwing everything at the media to get something to stick except HIS and HIS departments culpability!

 

Dupnik is absolutely to blame...and then some

fpete13527 (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 8:23AM EDT (link)

Dupnik was CLEARLY 100 percent negligent and that only touches the surface http://bit.ly/eQ5ehk.

THEN instead of SIMPLY prosecuting the case, Dupnik FABRICATES and fosters exactly what he fraudulently espouses as the problem in order to cowardly cover himself by slandering others
http://bit.ly/gsbEDT

 
 

Amy Lougher is referenced as a Pima Co Parks Dept

robobbob Tuesday, January 11th at 8:56AM EDT (link)

employee in a 2001 Pima County enivomental report, page 2, midway through paragraph, and wrote a report on page 19
http://www.pagnet.org/wq/reports/exotic_aquatics.pdf
unverified authenticity

 

Dubnik does need to blame himself and...

southernpatriots (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 9:14AM EDT (link)

Dubnik does need to blame himself and his office and not anyone else. The warning signs were there. He admits this murderer had made previous threats. He admits that this murderer was thrown out of college for other threats. What more do you need?

Dubnik needs to be voted out of office by the voters of Pima County. Does Sheriff Arpaio have a chief deputy who lives in Pima County? Maybe this deputy would like to sheriff? We hope so. We are tired of hearing Sheriff Dubnik advance his philosophy on border and national security and fight the fight he is elected to fight, to depend the fine citizens of the United States who live in Pima County.

 

Pima county

steve010 (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 11:43AM EDT (link)

I live in Florida and we have almost 3 times the population of Arizona, so that means we have about 3 times the wackjobs. People used to say that God would pick up the USA from time to time and shake it and all the garbage would fall into FL. FL is the resting place of Ted Bundy, the residences of Henry Lee Lucas, Aliene Wuornos, and Otis Toole. My daughter who is now grown used to ask if she could go here or go there. I always had the same reply, “Hey, this is Florida.”

I guess my point is that if something like this had happened in my county, the sheriff, the chiefs of police would be just devastated that it could have happened on their watch. This “sheriff” in Pima County is an embarrassment to you.

 

Come On Guys!!!

miroco Tuesday, January 11th at 12:20PM EDT (link)

The commie sheriff has taken a page from Obama’s playbook,
Raising incompetence to an Artform is no easy task. Obama takes a trillion, unemployment goes up, his popularity stays the same—that is art. (As well, a testament to the stupidity of modern Americans.)
Sheriff Dipsh– is surrounded by real lawmen who recognize the rising flood of illegals and drugs– he say Napolitano is doing a wonderful job— and gets re elected –That is art, and a testament to the stupidity of modern Americans. Repeal the nineteenth Amendment. Make abortion mandatory for liberals.

 

Dupnik should be calling for obama/ayers connections investigations

Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, January 11th at 12:56PM EDT (link)

If he wants to pursue real ties between terrorists and highest levels of government.

Obama’s buddy Bill ayers dedicated a freakin book to none other than Sirhan, Sirhan. Assassin. The sirhan sirhan dedication is written in Ayer’s book, Prairie Fire.

Obama lied about ayers saying he’s just a guy in the neighborhood and the MSM let him off. We know that is not true, but America doesn’t.

Here’s an Obama endorsement of one of Ayer’s books

http://bokertov.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/30/obama_blurb_on_ayers_book.jpg

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.”
-Ben Stein

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche

 

Next of kin?

sheryl Tuesday, January 11th at 11:08PM EDT (link)

I am wondering if the sheriff of Pima Cty. is related to the Loughner Family?
As soon as i heard the sheriff blame the right i knew something smelled
rotten. He wants to deflect the blame from himself. The mother is also an
employee of the county and i’m sure they know each other from their job.
He is a disgrace to all lawmen.

 

Liar, liar pants on fire:

steve010 (Diary) Wednesday, January 12th at 7:05PM EDT (link)

On January 10, 2011, in an interview with George Stephanopolis, Sheriff Dupnik was asked twice whether his office ever had any contact with Jared Loughner before the shootings and both times the Sheriff answered no, that his county office never had any contact with Jared Loughner.

Quote: Sheriff’s deputies had been to the Loughner home at least once before the attack, spokesman Jason Ogan said. He didn’t know why or when the visit occurred, and said department lawyers were reviewing the paperwork and expected to release it Wednesday.

The reports detailed nine contacts officers had with Loughner or one of his parents, from May 1994 to March 2010. The first with Jared Loughner came in September 2004, when he reported that a fellow student pricked him with a needle.

 

Dupnik should not wakeup this morning and still be Sheriff.

ihateliberals Thursday, January 13th at 12:46AM EDT (link)

Once he made the statements that he will not enforce the laws of AZ then he is not qualified to be Sheriff any longer. His office does not allow him to pick and choose which laws he wants to enforce. what if he chose to not enforce speed limits through the town and people started driving through at 80 mph. He just can’t decide which laws to enforce. If he doesn’t like a law he needs to get out of law enforcement and work to get it changed. Gov. Brewer it is your duty and obligation to see that Dupnik is fired or possibility arrested for his refusal to enforce the laws of AZ.

 

What's the difference between Rosco P. Coltrane and

grandma Thursday, January 13th at 1:02AM EDT (link)

Sheriff Dupnik? Rosco was a funny buffoon.