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NYT: Tucson bias was in our very genes.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  January 17th, 2011 at 04:30 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Ah, the New York Times.  Not only did their recent attempt to declare the Tucson shootings an episode of political violence spawned by right-wing rhetoric fail; it actually encouraged a minor episode of political violence spawned by left-wing rhetoric*.  This has made the paper look even worse than usual, so they need a good excuse to explain away the problem.  Said excuse?  It’s all the fault of the media’s genetic condition.

Seriously.

Jerry Ceppos, dean of the journalism school at the University of Nevada, Reno, said journalists’ impulse to quickly impose a frame on a story is “genetic.”

“Journalists developed automatic framing protocols generations ago because of the need to report quickly,” he said. “Today’s hyper-deadlines, requiring journalists to report all day long and all night long, made that genetic disposition even more dominant.”

Two things from this:

  • I was unaware that the media was currently run by a secret elite of clans that are apparently so inbred that by now the latest generation universally shares the same genetic predisposition towards jumping the gun and blaming a Republican whenever anything goes wrong in the world.
  • Alternatively, please remember this the next time that the New York Times presumes to lecture you on science: the [expletive deleted] writing for it don’t even know the difference between the Lamarckian and the Darwinian theories of evolution.

More scorn here and here; the best thing that you can say for the “We have genetic damage!” defense is that, hey, it still beats the truth.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Which is usually how it happens; the activist Left likes to declare how awful the Right is, just before they send out some goons to bite off fingers or whatnot.

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  • E Pluribus Unum

    Inadvertently, I am sure. It should have read:

    …journalists’ impulse to quickly impose a LIBERAL frame on a story…

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I have long believed that people who read the NYTimes are congenital idiots.

    But, on a more serious note, wasn’t there some researcher not long ago that claimed that there was a genetic predisposition for conservative and liberal thinking? My Memory is not the best.

  • lineholder

    If there is, I might just be persuaded in this single case to support genetic alteration.

    (Sigh!)

  • fgoodwin

    I agree that the rush to “frame” an article and do it quickly is automatic.

    But when I think back to the Fort Hood shootings a little over a year ago, the media cautioned against a rush to judgment after it learned that the alleged shooter, Nidal Hassan, was a Muslim.

    So my question to the NYT is, where was that “automatic” framing then? Why was the Tucson shooting automatically framed around Right-wing rhetoric but the Fort Hood shooting was not framed around Muslim extremism?

    I don’t know if the two examples, taken together, provide evidence of media bias, but it’s hard for me to think of a another reason for the difference in treatment.

  • edwyrd

    because back when nidal hasan jumped on a table in fort hood crying, “ali aklbar”, and then shooting and killing as many infidels as he could, the press was oh so careful NOT to leap to any gross misjudgememts or erroneous assumptions, cautioning ALL of us not to JUMP to any conclusions about the murdering muslim dog hasan!

  • throwback59

    Isn’t that belief prima facie evidence of racist attitudes, according to liberal “thinking”?

  • http://www.laborunionreport.com LaborUnionReport

    Of course it’s buried in the story, but Loughner, like so many on the Left, is a Bush-hater.

    <blockquote}He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country?s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.

    Sounds more like Loughner fit right in with some of the Lef…well…never mind.

    http://nyti.ms/eUPCjd

  • freethinkersengage

    So I’ve been reading the rhetoric and it seems to me that most people who comment are wishing and hoping for a past that is long gone. Abortion is not illegal (I don’t agree with it personally), nor is homosexuality. This WILL NOT CHANGE. I think there are more substantive issues here people. I don’t mind paying higher taxes and providing money to assist the mentally ill via government proven programs. Limited government, limits growth. I’m not a socialist, however without Government I shudder to think what this nation would be like. There is a happy common ground, we just need to find it. When Bush was President, there were quite a few Republicans who were unhappy with him as well, so stop the naming and blaming and offer solutions.

  • JSobieski

    Nobody wants homoesexuality to be illegal.

    The legality of abortions or at least some types of abortions and certain justifications for abortions could very well change.

    Limited government doesn’t limit growth. This country grew like crazy in the 19th century because government stayed out of the way. In contrast to much of Europe, which was embracing non-market based economies.

    How do you think a bunch of former colonies caught up to the old country?

    What other former colonies are prosperous in the 21st century? Places that had limited government in the 19th or at least 20th century.

    Hong Kong? limited government
    Singapore? limited government
    New Zealand? limited government

    Bush was always attempting to find common ground, which is why many of his domestic policies ended up being center-left.

    You think Bush was conservative, but like on many things, you are wrong.

  • carolina

    is the demoralization of the libs. Add a ‘rally’ memorial service….. and more and more libs are EMBARASSED to admit they support the dems. I find it wonderful that we don’t have to do a thing……. the libs continue to shoot themselves in the foot quite nicely.
    My lib friends are depressed. Ever hear about “aversion theraphy” to break a bad habit? The dems are getting regular doses.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    but you seem to be blinded and shackled by left wing memes and non-thinking. In the first place, I don’t know anyone on this site who wants to out law “homosexuals”,

    As for abortion on demand, well at one time it would have been equally unlikely to many that it would ever become legal.

    I also know of no Republicans who want NO government. But your idea that limited government limits growth is just a silly slogan with no substance to it.

    As for a common happy ground, I am not too sure if it does exist. I will fight till the bitter end to hold on to my freedoms and to cut government excess down to size. If you get in the way, then you are not my friend, you are my foe.

    You say stop the blame game? Well, funny that, we had eight years of it from 2000 to 2008 and I never heard that from the mouth of any left winger.

    Now, all of a sudden it’s “lets play nice”

    uhmm, no.

  • Bill S
  • Goldwater_Conservative

    its not their fault, because unlike us average joes with regular jobs, they have a product to produce and deadlines to meet. We just cant understand the pressure they are under, so if they make mistakes who are we to call them out?

  • earlgrey

    Your user name says it all. I also find it to be somewhat elitist? Do you mean to imply the rest of us are slave thinkers?

  • powertothepeople

    and would not have been able to figure out the level anyways. He was too busy puffing in order to get to the free thinking state………….

  • WarEagle01

    Although a short lived one. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=138144 In their minds, an attack against a Democrat could only come from a conservative Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin-loving bitter clinger. Plus, it’s what all their friends were telling them. So, most MFM “journalists,” craving social acceptance, went with it (to their everlasting shame).

  • sharonmcp

    I just wandered over to Daily Kos to see what they were saying about this article (don’t worry, I put on my waders and took lots of disinfectant with me) .

    Those people are unbelievably unhinged while professing complete innocence.

    A sampling

    they knew it was coming (5+ / 0-)

    and they knew they’d be blamed, at least indirectly. So they engaged in pre-emptive whining. Until they start inciting again. Rinse, reload.

    by Karl Rover on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 03:15:59 PM PST

    “Out, out, damn spot.” (6+ / 0-)

    Usually when someone yells out “Why is everyone blaming me?” when no one is blaming them, it is because they know they deserve the blame.

    “Don’t bring that horse in here!” — Cassandra

    by tc59 on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 03:16:06 PM PST

    They doth protest too much (5+ / 0-)

    These folks are washing their hands in public like some latter day Lady Macbeth without realizing what they are showing.

    by ProduceMan on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 03:18:18 PM PST

    Um, MOST (1+ / 0-)

    online were smart enough to not say the right was directly responsible. What MOST of us “dumb” bloggers were saying was exactly what the sainted MSM was saying: “rhetoric has consequences”, wherein we would list any number of incidents involving RW activists acting out violently at the behest of right wing suggestion.

    But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have laid my dreams under your feet; tread softly, because you tread on my dreams. — Yeats

    by Bill O Rights on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 03:19:18 PM PST

    Of course there isn’t blame of the right (2+ / 0-)

    for the shooting.

    And well there shouldn’t be.

    The right is guilty of their own rhetoric and for that they should be blamed. It’s theirs. They own it.

    Free Speech isn’t free. It comes with the heaviest of prices… the price of responsibility for owning your own words.

    I believe completely in free speech. I also believe in personal responsibility. The right is free to talk hatred and violence all they want. It defines them. It is who they are. By their own words… it is who they are.

    What they cannot do… what they cannot be allowed to do… is to not take responsibility for the words they speak. They can say them all they want. They cannot disown them unless they truly do disown them and that can only be shown by new words, new actions, and new ideas on their part.

    Clearly… they are not disowning their words.

    Peace,

    Andrew

    “Do what you can with what you have where you are.” – Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 03:31:01 PM PST

    Completely ignored that Markos fired the first salvo with his Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin tweet.

  • renny

    An entire category of academics and “journalists” have forgotten Wilson (WW I) was a Dem., FDR (WW II) was a Dem., Truman (Korea) was a Dem., Vietnam (JFK and Johnson), both were Dems., but somehow Vietnam has turned into Nixon’s war (he wasn’t elected until1968, and Johnson sent 400,000 troops to Vietnam in 1964), and the world’s response to Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait (a UN sanctioned expedition, even endorse by China and Russia) was NOT Bush’ war, tho’ doubtless the US provided the heaviest number of troops.
    Only the excursions into Afghanistan and Iraq in 2003 could possibly be construed as Bush W’s wars, even though they were supported by 41 other nations to start.
    The NYTimes and other liberal shills (someone should sue them for being an undeclared arm of the Dem. Party that provides unreported campaign support) have become a Goebbels who said if a lie was told often enough, it became the truth.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    You know, the one in which America was financially sound. But maybe, just maybe I’m foolish enough to believe that we can get it back.

    BTW, how’s that high tax strategy working out for Europe, California, Illinois, New York, etc…? I’m sure those extra taxes didn’t just encourage the monster, did it?

  • bobmontgomery

    …Newspaper Editors’ list of “Key Initiatives” is topped for the th year in a row by …………………(if you said diversity, you looked it up).

  • kowalski

    Sadly enough it isn’t in their genes but they’ve convinced themselves of it: that’s right! They talked themselves into it!

    The most amazing thing I find about normally-responsible (and putatively intelligent) human beings is their enormous capacity to believe what they tell themselves. In a lot of ways, it’s the majority of how our world works; we kind of convince ourselves of one mistaken thing or another, hit the wall, bounce off, and then go on to the next mistake. No matter how hard we try or how well-educated we imagine ourselves to be, this is what happens.

    I myself am not immune, but at least I try to recognize it as a flaw in my otherwise perfect reasoning about the world. ;)

  • earlgrey

    I spent some time over the weekend on liberal websites. They claim the Markos map with the targets was a right wing hoax. They dismissed Fuller’s threat completely and jumped all over Palin for her map. The double standard was stunning, but they were very self-righteous about it. It is rather scary I belive. It was most troubling tha tthey were upset that Fuller was arrested, when it seemed clear to me that that was the best way to get Fuller into some kind of psychiatric evaluation.

    They see everything in a political light and politics in every statemnt. They start with the premise that a right winger has evil intentions and a liberal is either a victim or misunderstood or a valient hero. There is not empathy for conservatives whatsoever.

    They have completely let their identity slip away from them as they parrot the far-left. They do all of this while talking about how stuupid right wingers are. If they don’t have an agrument to make they either point out that they have a brain (which is something I would have already assumed) or accuse republicans or conservatives of being stupid or backwards.

    I hope the little world they created for themselves is cozy and warm, because I don’t see any of them finding their way out.

  • kowalski

    I really think Obama realized what he was looking at and called for a National Moment of Silence because he understood that inflaming tensions further at that moment wasn’t just unwarranted, it was really wrong and counterproductive. I think he did the right thing and he did his best to tone the situation down, and I appreciate his foresight on that. He’s an intelligent man and he read the situation very well.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    by Mark Levin before the speech. The alternative was for Obama to bring in the heavy machinery to accelerate the digging of the hole that was underway by the Left (Krugman, et. al.).

    But, yes, Obama fielded this situation much better than he did the Skip Gates situation.

  • Read Chesterton

    I’m really impressed… I never saw that one coming.

    This should qualify them for some kind of special government subsidies or treatmen…. uhhh…. never mind.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    I’m the Contributor who supports extending marriage benefits to same-sex couples.

    You will now apologize for attempting to be disruptive and will promise to be better in the future. Next post.

  • sharonmcp

    Funny you should mention double standards earlgrey. I’m listening to Palin’ interview on Hannity and she just said that if it wasn’t for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

    I think the American public is beginning to realize just how right she is.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Availability Cascade.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    nt

  • Tbone

    In your case you may have overpaid a tad at free.

  • Tbone

    The all got it when their journalism professors screwed their minds.

  • lineholder
  • rickbull

    on which the New York Times was acquired by the National Enquirer…just wondering.

  • SoFiMil

    However, you never said whether you “personally” agree with homosexuality.

    So you don’t “personally” agree with abortion. Neither does Hillary. She still supports laws allowing for the killing of the unborn, as does Our Dear Leader, who supports infanticide.

    You’re use of the word “personally” gave yourself away as a koskid troll.

  • http://www.optionmeister.com rightturn

    The “study”…”found” that those who are Conservative, are led by their emotional side of the brain, and those who are “Liberal” use the side of the brain that uses, empathy and decision making.

    When I saw this on the TV news, it reminded me of the kind of propaganda that Hitler used to justify his actions.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    while I’m sure the NYT had most of its reporters in Alaska


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  • 6eorge Jetson

    in the National Review

    But the Left?s modus operandi was never as apparent as it was this past week when it took a tragic mass killing of innocents by a violent, mentally ill individual and transformed it ? within hours ? into an attack on the decency of the Right ? specifically Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, FoxNews, and talk radio.

    The same Left, led by the New York Times, that warned against making any quick assumptions that Islam had played any role in Maj. Nidal Hassan?s murder of 13 people and wounding of 30 others at Fort Hood, immediately declared that the Arizona murders were largely a result of a ?climate of hate? induced by Sarah Palin and other conservatives.

    It wasn?t true. They knew it wasn?t true. And, yes, it was a libel.

    But when you control all the major news media, Hollywood, much of rest of the culture, and most of the high schools and colleges, how are most people supposed to realize that?

    What makes last week different is this: The Left, for the first time, does not have the same monopoly over mass information and the Republican Party is no longer emasculated. There is talk radio, there is the internet, there is FoxNews, and there is a vigorous, conservative Republican Party. So, when the Left unleashed its libel against the Right, claiming that it was responsible for a ?climate of hate? that produced Jared Loughner, to its shock, America did not lie down and believe it. Many millions did, as usual. But for those with eyes to see, it was a false accusation, and for many, for the first time, it provided a clear view into how the Left operates.

  • Superheater

    You see freakthinker, most of us here understand, there are no “solutions”, there are only tradeoffs.

    I think you need a heavy dose of Dr. Sowell.

    BTW since you don’t mind paying higher taxes, why wait until you are forced to do so. I can understand why you favor additional expenditures for mental illness, so don’t wait, ante up now.

    Here’s the address:

    Gifts to the United States
    U.S. Department of the Treasury
    Credit Accounting Branch
    3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
    Hyattsville, MD 20782

    Just so you know its real :

    http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

    But of course I’m guessing you were in Germany 1941: I don’t personally agree with the “final solution”, but its legal and its not going to change.

    Pragmatism is so often the wall behind which the liar cowers…

  • Superheater

    And we’re always right, even if I know you posed the question with a heavy dose of richly deserved sarcasm..

  • antisocial

    On this very sensible site?

  • antisocial

    The very few remaining insane subscribers. They need to survive.

  • tobytucker

    when it’s so much easier to deny it ever happened?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/business/media/17media.html?ref=politics

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/17/936949/-NYT:-No-widespread-blame-of-the-right-for-Arizona-shooting

  • spinoneone

    Eugene Robinson over at the WaPo certainly doesn’t. He is still frothing at the mouth over Sarah Palin’s video presentation re Tucson. See here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/17/AR2011011702851.html?hpid=opinionsbox1.

  • The_Gadfly

    He only made that speech because he realized in the current environment, he might finally be able to start the riots, but his side would lose big time, perhaps for the last time.

  • The_Gadfly

    exact date on which the aliens used the Star Trek transference machine on The National Enquirer and the NYT. These days if the NYT raised their standards to match the National Enquirer it would be an improvement.

  • atillathehun

    It is beyond bizarre that anyone would be allowed to write such nonsense in a nationally recognized “news” source.
    Unacceptable or abnormal behavior has been excused by leftist since the progressive movement began.It is a product of collectivist thought process and the absence of individual accountability. To the extent that individual accountability has been deleted from the journalistic elite the dilution of truth is the ultimate goal and the means to achive this the absence of ethical journalistic effort.
    It is much akin to normalizing the abnormal behavior of homosexuality and the distortion of language to equate gay with that abnormal behavior. Yellow journalism is neither gay or genetic.

  • sharonmcp

    Palin Holds High Ground Over Harsh and Unfair Critics

    Why do I defend Palin in this case? I don’t agree with her political philosophy: She is an arch conservative. I am a liberal with sanity. I know that I am setting myself up for attack when I ask, why did Emile Zola defend Dreyfus? Palin is no Dreyfus and I am certainly no Zola. But all of us have an obligation, particularly those in politics and public office, to denounce, when we can, the perpetrators of horrendous libels and stand up for those falsely charged. We should denounce unfair, false and wicked charges not only when they are made against ourselves, our friends or our political party but against those with whom we disagree. If we are to truly change the poisonous political atmosphere that we all complain of, including those who create it, we should speak up for fairness when we can.

    …She will not be silenced nor will she leave the heavy lifts to the men in her Party. She will not be falsely charged, remain silent, and look for others – men – to defend her. She is plucky and unafraid.

    While I disagree with her and I am prepared to oppose her politically, in the spirit of longed-for civility I say, Ms. Palin you are in a certain sense an example of the American dream: You have the courage to stand up and present your vision of America to its people. Your strength and lack of fear make America stronger and are examples to be emulated by girls and boys, men and women who are themselves afraid to speak up. You provide the example that they need for self-assurance.

  • edintexas

    All these replies to a thread jack by a true believer Democrat newbie. I’m surprised.

  • edintexas

    The start of the troop deployment (as opposed to the advisors present since Kennedy sent 100) was 1965, not 1964. The first Marine combat unit arrived in March, and the first Army combat unit arrived in May, 1965.

    This does not detract from your point, just a minor correction.

  • counselor

    but not all newspapers and all journalists.

  • counselor

    you bring up………
    good example of a contradiction in the way two tragedies were reported.

  • edintexas

    How can this be when their incessant cable/satellite TV advertising (even on FNC) makes clear that their readers are possessed of great intellect and are superior in every way.

    I was going to write “Oh, wait, therein lies the answer. There are so few Progressives who possess those characteristics.”, but in the spirit of “toning down” the rhetoric, I’ll pass.*

    * Some years back I learned how the Left deftly makes accusatory statements and grafts on deniability. I guess I’ve now sunk as low as they by using the tactic – even if just this once.

  • counselor

    I thought it would be a good place to debate and enlighten , but I am finding a lot of anger in the replies here.
    Or am I being too much of a candy ass??

  • minncon

    In blaming today’s deadline-driven journalism for journalists’ tendencies to grab for “templates,” Dean Ceppos (of the world-renowned school of Journalism at the U of Nevada-Reno… huh?) exposes a problem that he doesn’t even see as a problem: the move away from just reporting FACTS, rather than interpreting them through some opinion-prism.

    The line between reporting and editorializing has been demolished. It needs to be rebuilt.

  • kpbenware

    “The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.”–Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister
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    “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them.”–Adolph Hitler
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    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.–Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

  • kpbenware

    Was, based on his history, something he came up with, or decided to do on his own, His ‘handlers’ must have decided that he needed to at least appear to make an effort at civility.
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    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.–Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

  • kpbenware

    I meant to say it was NOT something he came up with on his own…..

    I really believe their should be an ‘edit’ button so a typo like that can be corrected.

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    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.–Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • carolina
  • Jack_Savage

    Welcome. Most of us have been here for a while, so there are certain battles we have been through time and time again, and are sick of. Generally, these subjects elicit sharp responses. Here is a list, by no means comprehensive.

    Ron Paul for President
    Sarah Palin for anything
    John McCain
    We need moderate Republicans
    Let’s back off social issues
    I’m concerned that we (need a big tent, are too mean, etc, etc, etc)
    Was Barack Obama really born here? (or any tinfoil hat, black helicopter stuff)
    I’d pay higher taxes for (fill in the blank)
    Anyone who is believed to not be arguing in good faith
    Anything racist, sexist or homophobic, although I despise the term “homophobic” and someone will likely ream me for using it, but I am a big boy and it is OK

    Hang around a while, and you will get a better taste of what goes on. Let us know if you have any special expertise that lends help in understanding something (doctor, lawyer, construction supervisor, whatever).

    And when you make a point, be prepared to flat bring it, within the bounds of the site guidelines. It may make you lose some sleep, but it will make you razor sharp.

  • cam1

    that it is genetic is the progressive way to say that when you are up on their pedestal that they are blameless when they fabricate blame. George Soros has deep pockets that have throughly corrupted the MSM.

  • Bill S
  • Bill S

    When he comes out in the open, we’ll open fire.

    (Oh, darn, am I being too toxic in my rhetorical metaphors?)

  • uselogic

    Love the Thrive Changey logo!

  • The_Gadfly

    And given his natural tendency to mechanically follow all things Marxist, something had to penetrate that behavioral characteristic.

    As to the edit button, it’s been discussed in the past and we’ve always come down on the side of recording our mistakes so that comment authors can’t edit anything bad/offensive out of the record if they get called on it. I suppose theoretically the blog could keep a history of the edits to the comments and moderators could have access to those histories for mediating disputes, but it’s easier to just let them out there and take your lumps when you make a mistake. Think of it as the conservative character building part of the website: improving your sense of being responsible for what you write.

  • The_Gadfly

    it seems only appropriate to note that if you think of something to add right after you posted, you can title it ‘Kowalski’ and we’ll all know what happen. If you manage to post three in a row, you’ve managed to score a Perfect Kowalski.

  • uselogic

    It’s simple, you call the NYT what it is… Propaganda.

    (I was gonna go with “Evil” but I went squish.)

  • billybaa

    Liberals only have One standard,
    Theirs

  • billybaa

    you have awaken the American people from a deep sleep

  • rightwingmom52

    on the outside of the prepaid reply envelope I’m returning to the NYT. How I got on their please subscribe list I’ll never know unless they managed to get their grimy hands on Big Sister’s right-wing watch list.

  • Superheater

    If that’s your occupation, you know asking a question like that
    betrays a suspicion that the answer is yes.

    Then again, we don’t really abide by the insincere calls of “civility” being tossed by the snarling dogs of the left..

  • johnhandel

    convince him of anything. The guy has gotten a little better at public speaking without a teleprompter. He still would have failed my high school speech class. I am still reminded of the movie ‘Anchorman’. He will read anything that is put on the teleprompter. All his handlers would have to do is substitute this message for his speech in the prompter, and he’d never notice the difference until well after it was too late.