FDA victory in the War on Raw Milk!


The USA has solved all of our other problems, you see.

Marvel at our heroic government agents as they swoop in at 5 AM* to stop the pernicious practice of selling unpasteurized milk across state lines!

An Amish farm in Pennsylvania has been stopped from selling contraband milk after a year-long federal government sting operation.

The Rainbow Acres Farm was found to have been smuggling banned unpasteurised milk to customers in Maryland.

Cheer as this tawdry trade – dominated by cartels of Amish farmers and natural-food enthusiasts – is shut down!  Rejoice as the profit margins of Monsanto** and other agriculture companies are protected by their pet Democratic shills in Congress!

I’d like to highlight that last point: if you’re a raw milk enthusiast who is upset that the FDA has the ability to mess with your supply, guess what?  As Hot Air indirectly points out, this is all due to the fact that the Democrats passed into law the Food Safety Modernization Act.  For those who don’t remember: this particular piece of legislation essentially gave the FDA regulatory oversight over farmers down to the molecular level… and that’s not really a joke, either.  It was done pretty much with large agricultural conglomerates in mind, too – which is annoying, because while I don’t have issues with agricultural conglomerates per se I also don’t really like the idea of them having their own Congresswoman, either (hi, Rosa DeLauro!).  Then again, it wasn’t my party that passed this thing.  This one is the fault of the Democrats.

All of which probably means, given the demographics involved, that a bunch of liberal Democrats are wondering right now why the heck their own party is so intolerant of their particular alternate lifestyle.  Well, that’s because liberal Democrats do not actually approve of alternative lifestyles; they only approve of specific acceptable lifestyles, and if they happen to not like yours then they’ll be more than happy to use the power of the State to quash you.  And if you have the temerity to object to such highhandedness, well, that’s when they start calling you names.

Or, put another way: ‘Liberal libertarian’ is an oxymoron.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Or, in Amish terms, “mid-morning.”

**I actually don’t care about GE food, although if they start making string beans that glow in the dark I’ll probably try some.


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luvnthebigsites (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 5:16PM EDT (link)

From the: “farm-to-consumer legal defense fund:

Pete Kennedy, Esq. | December 29, 2010

On December 21, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 2751, the “FDA Food Safety Modernization Act” (formerly S.510). On Sunday night, December 19, the Senate passed FSMA by unanimous consent without a recorded vote after substituting its language in H.R. 2751 (originally titled, “Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act”–one of the “Cash for Clunkers” bills originating in the House in 2009). This maneuver, cynical and underhanded even by Washington standards, could have been stopped by a single Senate Republican but all were silent. FSMA is expected to be signed into law by President Obama sometime next week.

http://www.ftcldf.org/congress-passes-fsma-kennedy.htm

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The need of the foodie Left to absolve...

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:25PM EDT (link)

…its putative allies of wrongdoing by finding some way to drag in the Republican party somehow is not really my problem. The FSM Act wouldn’t have been passed in either the 109th Congress or the 112th; and it would have never been signed in the 110th. It was the 111th where we had the perfect storm of Democratic control of the government … and, no, the lack of a hold by the GOP in the last days of the 111th doesn’t let the Democrats off of the hook on this in the slightest.

Dude. Seriously, there are times when the need to justify screaming at the GOP has to take a back seat to the obligation to point out who the REAL screw-ups are. I know that it’s like a drug, but… go cold turkey, or something.

My cries are justified on this one Moe...

luvnthebigsites (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:45PM EDT (link)

This stupid S.510 was one of Bob Corkers babies, (my senator) Plus I work In the food industry, (Engineering).

I’ll keep my stupid party cries to a minimum, didn’t mean to scramble your thread. (dude) ;)

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Fair point: if you can't complain...

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:43PM EDT (link)

…about your own Senator then there’s no point to even having a blogosphere. Overt and implied criticism withdrawn, with apologies. :)

No apologies necessary,

luvnthebigsites (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:55PM EDT (link)

Ehhh, I should have have included more details in my original post. (This is why you are the “Kim Kardashian” of the blogosphere and I am not) :P No harm no foul… /Salute

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It's Coming

hendrig Monday, May 2nd at 8:51AM EDT (link)

Just a matter of time now before they ban breast feeding.

Beware of driving across state lines while breastfeeding!

vandalii Monday, May 2nd at 5:28PM EDT (link)

nt

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Hey Moe, You posted this about 40 some minutes after Mine went up on the same subject. 2

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 5:42PM EDT (link)

Link in your post is broken, Ace.

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:28PM EDT (link)

By the way, you’re right: the scene *is* absurd. :)

Thanks Moe

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:31PM EDT (link)

High praise considering the source.

The link seems to work when I click it

MarkTwain 3

No, I mean the link inside the post. NT

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:36PM EDT (link)

Oh...Thanks...I'll edit nt

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:50PM EDT (link)
 
 
 
 

Well, if running white lightening led to NASCAR,

Tbone (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:11PM EDT (link)

I can’t wait to see an Amish guy changing black hats with different logos during the TV interview after winning the Mennonite 500 Buggy Race.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

LOL That's too funny nt

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:33PM EDT (link)

Amish Racing

papat Monday, May 2nd at 11:00AM EDT (link)

If you want to see the Amish racing, go to the New Holland PA horse auction on Mondays. The Amish buy trotters and pacers for their buggies, and the yournger Amish men race with sulkies in the alley behind the auction.

 

What goes

Lammo (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 12:12PM EDT (link)

“Clip clop, clip clop, clip clop, bang bang, bang bang, bang, clip clop, clip clop clip clop”?

An Amish drive-by shooting.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Stupid prosecutor jokes are my specialty and I’ll be here all week. Two shows on Sunday. Try the veal and don’t forget to tip your waitress.

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We've got e.coli-tainted produce coming up from south of the border, and the FDA are wasting their time busting Amish milk rings? ... Winning! [nt]

acat (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:31PM EDT (link)

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I don't think the Amish make up any of the

INC (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:40PM EDT (link)

Democrat demographic. I think I’ve read they do vote–and they vote conservatively. The Dems obviously feel no need to pull punches here.

Bitter, Bible-clinging, raw milk drinking... [nt]

acat (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 6:44PM EDT (link)

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This type of thing is in the Constitution

dcgator Sunday, May 1st at 6:59PM EDT (link)

There have been milk safety laws since 1924 that basically all states have adopted, so changes aren’t really a ‘new’ thin.g

The Food Modernization Act prohibited unpasteurized milk from being sold intrastate. Some states still allow for unpasteurized milk to be sold and thats STILL LEGAL. If you read the actual story, this creamery was bottling it in such a way to cover up that it wasn’t pasteurized milk so they could ship it across state lines…thats ILLEGAL.

As well, what is allowed in one state is one thing, but when there is the potential for food borne illnesses to pass to consumers through intrastate commerce, thats where Congress should be regulating.

Pretty sure this is in the constitution…
“To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;”

just because the constitution allows regulation of interstate commerce ...

catt (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:15PM EDT (link)

doesn’t justify _stupid_ regulations. If there’s a rationale by which outlawing the sale of raw milk isn’t stupid I’d like to hear it.

Is it because parents shouldn’t be allowed to endanger the lives of their own children? That’s the answer I hear most often. Okay … fine. Raw milk might carry a slightly higher risk of an e-coli infection … but how do you weigh that against the parents deciding that the health benefits outweigh that risk? If you want government to outlaw parents giving their kids any food that might endanger their health then is that going to include serving them too much fried food or too much Pepsi?

For Heaven's sake, don't give them ideas!

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:48PM EDT (link)

Also note that this fellow is pretending that giving regulatory power to an unelected bureaucratic institution is equivalent to giving Congress any sort of effective oversight; the standard dodge, in other words.

As you yourself said

dcgator Sunday, May 1st at 8:31PM EDT (link)

CONGRESS gave them this power in the Food Modernization Act…Act…like a bill of Congress…

If you disagree that Congress should have done this, thats another issue, but blaming it on a bureaucratic institution that was given this power…in the name of safety is another

Further research shows that Congress clarified in the FMA that FDA should take into account Small and Very Small Businesses based on established guidelines by the National Conference on Interstate Milk Shipments…which with limited research shows is a non-profit designed to represent milk producers across state lines.

 
 
 

Thank you for explaining the socialist perspective

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:33PM EDT (link)

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It is pretty nice of him, isn't it?

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:38PM EDT (link)

Also nice is the similarity of his argument to that of drug warriors. *ducks*

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Modern liberalism = oppression

BA Cyclone (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 9:39AM EDT (link)

We just as well start making the direct comparison.

Liberals cannot get what they want without direct oppression. Every one of their ideals requires directly oppressing others so they can’t harm themselves, or indirectly harming others. It is the only play they have to run.

The correllary as Moe points out, is if they can run crony capitalist rings to “assist” big-donor types while quashing “Small and Very Small Businesses”.

Because “we” can’t trust you with deciding what milk to purchase for your family…

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Modern liberalism = oppression

BA Cyclone (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 9:39AM EDT (link)

We just as well start making the direct comparison.

Liberals cannot get what they want without direct oppression. Every one of their ideals requires directly oppressing others so they can’t harm themselves, or indirectly harming others. It is the only play they have to run.

The correllary as Moe points out, is if they can run crony capitalist rings to “assist” big-donor types while quashing “Small and Very Small Businesses”.

Because “we” can’t trust you with deciding what milk to purchase for your family…

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The Cheese Police!!

nilram (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:07PM EDT (link)

Whenever I hear of the govt. cracking down on unpasteurized dairy, I’m instantly reminded of an episode of Chef! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR2JM3YW21U&feature=related

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Love the "mid-morning" reference

hungarianfalcon (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:21PM EDT (link)

Most people don’t know that the Amish have a normal workday in by noon.

HF

 

This is pretty awful

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 7:40PM EDT (link)

The federal government truly run amok. One would think that lovers of “natural” foods would at least have some scorn for this practice.

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Mooooocher, obama and holder must really be PROUD of what they have done.

bobojake (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 8:33PM EDT (link)

Nov 2012 can not come one day to soon. Lets can them all and not kick it down the road.

 

Why stop at milk?

SKully (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 9:09PM EDT (link)

This week, we will be bottling some home-made wine. Not made from our own grapes (we’re small here – grapes are not ripe this time of year), but made from unpasteurized juice we bought from a wholesaler.

Making wine from pasteurized juice=not possible.

I wonder how long before our esteemed leader will see fit to remove our right to make this wine against the apparent danger that someone might drink the juice we bought for this purpose.

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Give them time...

anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 11:38PM EDT (link)

The “we can regulate anything because of a flawed court ruling in the early 20th century” attitude will lead to everything being regulated by the feds if the beast of a billion fed workers isn’t trimmed down some.

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Control

papat Monday, May 2nd at 11:04AM EDT (link)

The real reason for the oppressive regulation of our food supply isn’t our health – it’s given in Revelation 13:17 (King James Version)

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

"17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

myron_j_poltroonian Monday, May 2nd at 4:37PM EDT (link)

Are you old enough to remember when Social Security cards had “Not Valid for Identification” printed across the top?

 
 
 
 

First they came for the Bake Sales......

Michael Dugas (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 9:46PM EDT (link)

Then they came for the Lemon Aid stands……
Now it’s the Amish Milkmen!
I know, I know…..inflation, skyrocketing energy prices, unemployment and the devaluation of the dollar should be taking a back seat to The Amish Milk Mob.
If it weren’t for the fact that Obama is actively damaging our country this might be amusing considering its stupidity.

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In FL they sell it @ the health food store with a label that it is for animals

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 10:04PM EDT (link)

All the raw milk sellers have this disclaimer that it’s for pets/animals.. :-)
It’s not legal to sell it for human consumption.

 

PPssst...Don't tell anyone but I'm growing vegetables in the back yard

Michael Dugas (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 10:35PM EDT (link)

and sometimes…..sometimes I even give some too my neighbors.
Ssssshhhhhhhh.

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A little early here... but I've got tomatoes started.

acat (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 11:24PM EDT (link)

From seed.

We’ll see how soon they can be moved out of the kitchen.

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You have FB acat?

Michael Dugas (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 11:29PM EDT (link)

If so check out this album.
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Threadjack, so sorry Moe, Osama Bin Laden Dead!!!

PowerToThePeople (Diary) Sunday, May 1st at 10:51PM EDT (link)

It is confirmed and his body is in American Custody.

Thanks to all the men and women in uniform!

 

The government likes to oppress those who don't fight back.

mosander Monday, May 2nd at 7:31AM EDT (link)

Over the years, I have drunk raw milk, both cow and goat. It is delicious. I majored in animal science and once had a small herd of goats I milked. Owners of milk animals must have their herds tested – Bangs and TB testing. This allows certification which makes the milk safe to drink. It is certainly safer than flouride laced public water. (The goats drank well water, too.)
Of all the people who are honest and pride themselves following God’s laws, they are the least likely to produce tainted products. If the muslims owned goats and drank raw milk, no one would bother them. Can you say dhimmitude? I stand behind the Amish efforts to sell raw milk. I lobbied against the stupid food bill S.510.

I grew up during the real depression

wesok101 Monday, May 2nd at 9:31AM EDT (link)

We had two cows and I learned to milk them before I learned to walk.My mother churned milk and made butter. I drank raw milk, buttermilk and ate butter – all without any pasturization. I went to college and majored in Agricultural Economics and minored in Dairy Science. I worked part time as a Dairy Herd Milk Tester and I regularly drank raw milk that was only minutes out of the cow. I still drink milk every day which sadly has been skimmed and pasturized. I am now 81 years old. I have never had any broken bones. I still love to hike, hunt, camp and walk every day. I have had a good life and I do not like the government trying to tell me how to do anything.

Shhhh!

edingerb Monday, May 2nd at 1:26PM EDT (link)

“I have never had any broken bones.”

You keep making admissions like these publicly and Barak, Eric* & Co. will be paying you a little visit.

(* That’s Eric Holder, to avoid any confusion.)

But seriously, I hope your lifestyle keeps you active well past the century mark.

 

At Your Age?

myron_j_poltroonian Monday, May 2nd at 4:45PM EDT (link)

You’d better give up the hiking and take up fly fishing instead. Wading a stream is much more beneficial for the heart, mind and body. Just as hunting is. I’ll be eleven years behind you in three weeks. Just another “Elder Flatulence”, indeed.

 
 
 

The important point here

jimmyneutron Monday, May 2nd at 8:20AM EDT (link)

is that once again a law gets passed, a very intrusive nanny-state type law, because some industry, group, person has a congress critter in their pocket and wants to tilt the playing field in their favor. We must remember that this law was not passed to truely protect anyone or because the main folks promoting it cared for anyone other than themselves. This law was passed most likely because one or several people got large amounts of campaign cash, favors, etc or perhaps funds were funneled through fake business deals, ‘cheap’ land deals, or any of the innumerable ways that people get paid without really getting paid.
We all know, if we arent’ terribly niave or if we don’t have skin in that game, how these things work. Scoundrals of both parties have shown us time and again. They just wrap these things in high sounding words and self righteousness, but when one looks these laws almost always turn out to be a used diaper wrapped in very expensive wrap.
This is just another reminder of how corrupt this system really is and that, at least to me, is what we really need to be fighting here. People are inherantly corrupt and if you give them power over you they will abuse it, for their own benefit, virtually every time.
This is why the founders, in their incredible wisdom, wanted most power to remain local.

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Tomorrow's post

charlie520 Monday, May 2nd at 8:48AM EDT (link)

FDA wins War on Unregulated Lemonade Distributors.

 

raw milk

lovesalldogs Monday, May 2nd at 10:42AM EDT (link)

This is sad. the amish shouldn’t have to be apart of this countries b.s.

I don’t do milk ever because I can’t tolerate it. BUT I use to buy raw milk from a local dairy farmer for many years until he could no longer sell it to me.
SAD I got it for myself and my son at that time a year old until he was 3 AND it worked for both of us.
It’s so sad and stupid that this country seems to think they have to control EVERYTHING.
Keeping this country safe from all things should mean keeping our MILITARY STRONG GIVING THEM WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THEM SAFE AND US SAFE. THAT’S WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD BE GOING that these blankety blank politicians are getting in their pockets.

I am so sick of politicians that ARE NOT in office to make life BETTER for those that are willing to work hard AND NOT LIVE OFF THE GOVERNMENTS TIT

Pamela J Solich

"One Size Fits All"

myron_j_poltroonian Monday, May 2nd at 4:54PM EDT (link)

does not apply to all situations. A dear friend of mine contracted an “Old Man’s Disease”, Haemochromatosis, which is too much iron in the blood. She was barely 30 at the time that the symptoms started showing up.
So much for the FDA’s “Fortified with Iron” for damn near everything posture.

Fortification is a bad practice

Menlo (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 6:10PM EDT (link)

They do it to everything from milk to flour to salt to municipal water. Everything now comes enriched or fortified with synthetic chemicals (mostly from China) whose risks likely outweigh the benefits.

While it is largely a market phenomenon now, it obviously did not start that way and to some extent still is not. That’s why it’s especially bad with water, where the toxic poison is forced on people by their own government. If the FDA were doing its job, the additive would have been banned long ago.

People who need or want more vitamins or minerals now have plenty of options. There is no longer a need to fortify, and it’s likely doing more harm than good in today’s society. That may not have been the case 40-50 years ago.

How long before the few natural, unenriched and unfortified varieties of basic foods and drinks are no longer allowed?

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

lately I have been moving toward

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 6:55PM EDT (link)

unrefined, unadulterated products. Raw honey, raw nuts, pure cane syrup, etc.

I have felt much better and my allergies have cleared up. Most of that stuff is also very low on the glycemic index.

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Have you tried brown rice syrup?

Menlo (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 7:38PM EDT (link)

It tastes like caramel syrup without all the ingredients. I think it has a low GI too.

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Good stuff, Menlo.

acat (Diary) Monday, May 2nd at 9:39PM EDT (link)

And it works pretty nicely to replace white sugar in reciples too .. just gotta allow for the extra moisture content.

Mew

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