Wisconsin’s voter ID bill passed, 60-35; it now goes to the Senate, to be worked on next week. The bill will require that voters show picture ID before voting: what really has Democrats in a tizzy about this is that to be valid a student ID will need “current address, birth date, signature and expiration date.” This effectively removes all Wisconsin student IDs from consideration… and if they start adding that information it will become abundantly clear, very quickly, that a lot of students are not going through the hassle of changing their legal address every year to reflect their attending college. Which is another way of saying that a lot of students are voting in districts that they’re not actually supposed to be voting in.
This is the real issue for Democratic party bigwigs, methinks – and for all that they pretend that it’s a minority voter issue. The reality is, people will bend over backward to make sure that the urban poor get ID to keep from being disenfranchised: this country takes voting seriously; it’s the right thing to do; and – if the first two reasons aren’t enough – the federal government will come down like a hammer from orbit on anybody trying anything different. But students being told that they can’t vote in Madison because they actually live in Sheboygan? Yeah, that’s going to get less sympathy. – even if the Democratic party would rather have that vote count in Madison.
Which leads me to the next thought: do you think that there are any Wisconsin Democrats out there who wish that they hadn’t wasted their get-out-of-Wisconsin-free card on opposing labor union reform? I kind of think that there are some Wisconsin Democrats out there who wish that they hadn’t wasted their get-out-of-Wisconsin-free card on opposing labor union reform.
Via @kevinbinversie, who is detecting a certain amount of protester fatigue from WisPolitics.com right now. If so, they’re not the only ones…
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BACFA (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 6:57PM EDT (link)I love it. Michael Moore is going to be fired up with Project Gaslight again…filming all those dummies and putting them on the screen Borat style. What a bunch of schmucks.
A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving… –Einstein
Not to be an eeyore
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 7:06PM EDT (link)But while this sounds like a great bill, I’ll be very unsurprised if the Democrats don’t find sympathetic federal judges (and probably the DOJ too) to snarl this up in the courts for years, certainly through the 2012 election.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
You gotta figure
Stan Thursday, May 12th at 8:28PM EDT (link)the Dems will take this one to Judge Sumi, too…
Your not being eeyore....
JimmyGee (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 9:25PM EDT (link)This bill, eventually law will be going to both the state and federal SC’s. I fully expect Obama to voice is concern about it. I am sure that the legal briefs are already written up and waiting. I would not be surprised that WI. SC chief justice (and I use the term very loosely when I say chief justice) is in collusion with the demorat legal team.
Fact is, the demorats will fight just as hard for this as they did against Gov. Walker’s budget repair bill. Voter fraud is the ONLY way demorats can win elections.
I’m going to throw up now. No, really….
Now even more reason for them to try
Brian_Roastbeef (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 10:37AM EDT (link)Herb Kohl is retiring, and I’d consider the very possible Feingold/Neumann matchup as Tossup at worst. Possibly Lean R. Just add to the reasons for the left to want to keep their margin of fraud intact through 2012.
I don't understand the last paragraph
JimmyGee (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 9:15PM EDT (link)Demorats don’t really care that they left, or stayed. What they “felt” about their actions is irrelevant. Emails between national union leadership and the demorats proved one thing, they did what they were told to do by their union puppet masters. Period.
The election dates should also be changed
chieftain (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 9:27PM EDT (link)The primary should be the 2nd Tuesday in May.
The general election for ALL state offices should be the 2nd Tuesday in July. This will address the lazy & led student problem. Elections in fair weather should help the poor and elderly get to the polls more easily. Students who are actually citizens of the college towns can easily vote there and those back home working for the summer may easily vote in their home district without the suffering the horrible pain of obtaining an absentee ballot. Of course the college profs who run for city councils might miss some of the votes of their students.
The primary for the fall federal elections could be held at the same time as the State general election in July; this would provide ample time for military ballot provisioning for the November federal election, as would the May primary for the State July election.
Better weather; poor can walk to polls; no elderly slip and falls; students in home districts; people who can afford a vacation out of town can handle voting absentee before they leave.
WIN; WIN; WIN; WIN!
Wasn't a quorum only needed for budget bills.
gekster (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 9:32PM EDT (link)If money is not involved, then no quorum needed.
Even if they run, it wouldn’t do no god for them.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
How terrible: Disenfranchising illegal voters -nt
bk (Diary) Thursday, May 12th at 10:57PM EDT (link)Cathrin
cathrin Thursday, May 12th at 11:48PM EDT (link)Maybe they should start with the Obama Admin as well. Wonder what they’d discover?
Thank God...
saintgeorgegentile Thursday, May 12th at 11:59PM EDT (link)for the brave souls behind the cheddar curtain funneling this information back to us.
Freedom is the glue of capitalism, that amoral wisdom of the markets that most efficiently allots goods and services to a citizenry.
-Victor Davis Hanson
good to know WI R's *may* not be "hosing someone down or lynching someone"
techsan (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 12:44AM EDT (link)….as Milwaukee Democrat Tamara Grigsby helpfully points out. It’s good she cleared that up. I guess she thinks her constituents aren’t able to tell the difference between legislation and violent acts.
Here’s the whole quote…
…and I keep coming back to that word…may.
In any case…the quote was a freebie. These passages are what I was looking for.
There’s more to it than Voter ID.
In the end, all we have on our side of the debate are facts and history.
Residency requirements
spinoneone Friday, May 13th at 1:51AM EDT (link)are a purely state matter. There is no Federal rule on how long one must live in a particular precinct or other voting district to be eligible to vote in a non-Federal election. The 28 day rule is very interesting. I would bet a lot of money that most college kids do not arrive in town more than a couple of days before the start of a semester. Does that have an impact on whether or not they can vote? If the vote takes place between June and early September, I would guess it does.
Good luck, Wisconsin.
radicalrighty Friday, May 13th at 6:47AM EDT (link)Georgia enacted a voter ID law a few years ago, only to be struck down by one lefty federal judge.
So get ready for the inevitable legal action in defense by “the poor.”
I'm curious Moe
Darin_H (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 9:31AM EDT (link)Sheboygan?
I’m more concerned about Waukegan, Dubuque, Rockford, etc.
A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
Good Start
oneconservative Friday, May 13th at 9:44AM EDT (link)The bill is OK but does not go far enough. First, it does not end same day voter registration which is something that should be done. There should be at least a 30 day and I would argue a 60 day registration period.
Second, there should be something outlawing third party registration from groups like ACORN or whatever they call themselves these days.
If this is
caboose Friday, May 13th at 10:08AM EDT (link)challenged in the judicial system, the Governor and Legislature, and as soon as the lawsuit is filed, use their US Constitutional authority to pursue the case directly to the US Supreme Court. Don’t give the Dems the chance to shop for a liberal judge and drag it out.
Delaware requires photo ID
demathgal Friday, May 13th at 10:32AM EDT (link)Joe Biden’s state (and mine), Delaware, requires photo ID to vote and no one makes much noise about it. It is just part of going to vote.
So all states wanting photo ID (this bill in Wisconsin and the other in Minnesota right now) should name the bills something like “The Joe Biden equivalency Voting Rights bill” or some such nonsense. Point out that if the very blue state of Delaware does it, why can’t we? Then see what happens.
And since when can students vote in elections where they go to college (especially non-state residents)? My kids all went out of state for college and had to vote absentee at home. They weren’t allowed to be ‘residents’ of the state where they attended school until they finished college and established real residency with an address and job.
The best way to vote for anyone
steve010 (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 12:13PM EDT (link)is absentee. You don’t need a picture ID to vote absentee. A few clicks of the mouse on the elections web site. They mail you your ballot. You fill it out, sign the back and mail it in. What could be easier. I’ve been doing this for over 15 years.
Hopefully Iowa gets this done
freemanja1991 (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 11:16AM EDT (link)Next session, our senate dictator held it up to “help the poor as well”
Fl has picture ID voting law
steve010 (Diary) Friday, May 13th at 11:46AM EDT (link)Fl has had this requirement for quite some time due to the FUBAR election of 2000. It works quite well here and even if a person doesn’t have a picture ID, they can still vote even if they aren’t on the list. They cast a provisional ballot which is examined by the canvassing board after the election.
Even with the huge voter turnout in 2008 with over 8 million votes cast, only 35K provisional votes were turned in statewide. So people who say that picture ID at the precinct is holding down voter turnout are daffy.