Annnnnnd Tim Pawlenty’s in, with ‘A Time for Truth.’ [UPDATE!]


[UPDATE]  Whoa, whoa, WHOA.  Tim Pawlenty’s going to start off his candidacy by ‘speaking truthfully about farm subsidies‘?

Speaking truthfully about farm subsidies?

In IOWA?

Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty released this video (“A Time For Truth”) last night:

…and he’s going to be formally announcing his candidacy at a town hall today in Iowa.  My basic take from both the video above, and the excerpts from his planned speech that I’ve seen: Pawlenty’s going to be focused primarily on going after the President, and not worry quite so much about his fellow-Republican candidates.  At least, that’s the impression that I get from him taking the opportunity in both to essentially call the President a liar…

“President Obama’s policies have failed.  But more than that, he won’t even tell us the truth about what it’s really going to take to get out of the mess we’re in. … I’m going to take a different approach.  I am going to tell you the truth.”

Not to mention, a coward.

“We need a President who understands that our problems are deep and who has the courage to face them.  President Obama doesn’t.”

All of which at least feels like it’s already more hard-hitting than Sen. John McCain ever managed in the last election cycle*.  But possibly I’m just allowing my natural optimism to show.  Or, possibly, I’m still remembering all the screaming that we did in 2008 behind the scenes, begging that campaign to come out swinging…

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Yes, I know that’s a kind of depressing statement, really.


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Love it!

paramedichess Monday, May 23rd at 9:49AM EDT (link)

This is a very well done campaign video, and if this proves to be the tone of his campaign, I think we can expect great things. This is a guy that conservatives can and should rally behind.

So we pick a candidate based on a good video?

rememberthealamo Monday, May 23rd at 10:47AM EDT (link)

Glad he has a nice video. But really, that isn’t impressive since you shoot videos over and over until they are “good.”

I don’t see TPaw going toe to toe with Obama on the campaign trail, in debates and interviews. He’s a “great governor” – of a liberal state. How about a great Governor of a solidly conservative state, who has also served as Ag Commish for 8 years and was a family rancher before politics. Perry.

Can TPaw talk corn and wheat with Iowa farmers – from first person experience? Rick Perry can.

Try this Electoral College math – Perry/Rubio 2012

No we don't. And it's not primary day either.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 10:57AM EDT (link)

This is his first shot. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s the beginning of TPaw laying a foundation for his candidacy so we can make a rational judgment about whether he should be our candidate or not.

Change

 

Rubio has no interest in becoming the next Sarah Palin.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:00AM EDT (link)

If he’s smart, he doesn’t.

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

 

Just so you know, rememberthealamo:

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:02AM EDT (link)

Going onto non-[Candidate X] threads and trying to pump up [Candidate X] as a potential/better/theoretical candidate has been, historically speaking, a counterproductive exercise. What generally happens is that people who get irritated by such behavior start to associate that irritation with [Candidate X].

 
 
 

I saw Pawlenty on "Today" this morning.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 9:53AM EDT (link)

He refused to say anything about Romney when asked. He’s already focused on the target, which is where the focus needs to be.

Maybe we’ll have a primary campaign on the issues, and who is best equipped and has the best ideas to lead us forward for a change? One can hope…

pun intended

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

T-Paw can't go after Romney

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 10:11AM EDT (link)

because he will need to use the same federalism argument, to defend some of his own actions as governor, as Mitt is using to defend RomneyCare.

Pawlenty created a commission to look into universal health care in MN. One of their recommendations was an individual mandate. He was smart,because he didn’t go down that road, but why open that door for Romney to eventually use against him.

Besides, every time Pawlenty takes a shot at ObamaCare, he is in effect taking a shot at RomneyCare, without having to sling mud at Romney.

Exactly

Goldwater_Conservative (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 10:18AM EDT (link)

no reason to snipe at Romney, there will be others in this race that will attack him mercilessly. Pawlenty can look like the good guy and keep his nose dry on Romeny

 

I'm in if he jumps in with the Federalism argument -and really believes it

dajeeps (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:02AM EDT (link)

However, I think a belief that Fedzilla can and will reform itself before we go over the cliff, things will magically turn to like they were in 1989 and we can all go back to sleep again is nothing more than wishful thinking. This election, I believe is likely our last chance for reform, if it is even possible, before we find ourselvess buried in the wreckage of the nanny state.

I’d like to suggest caution that whomever we nominate to replace Obama needs to have a solid commitment to return the police power taken from the states over the last several decades, rather than use it in order to try to manipulate us in another way – because that can always be undone or bastardized into something horrific such as the supposed “Free-market solution” to housing. or many other things done with the best of intentions that turn malign, like turning Medicare and Medicaid into rationing and death panels. We owe it to posterity to put a stop to the madness of the nanny state, return to genuine free market capitalism and ensure that if we cannot do that, that no Republican will be anywhere near the wreckage when we finally hit the bottom.

I lost count regarding how many times I have wished that GW had not been president when the financial system hit the wall and that John McCain, not a good crisis guy, had not been our nominee. It really doesn’t matter since there is very little use in crying over spilled milk, but it does provide useful information for the future.

…”I would quarrel with both parties and with every individual of each, before I would subjugate my understanding, or prostitute my tongue or pen to either.”
–John Adams

Fedzilla - nice!

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 12:49PM EDT (link)

It’s foolish to think that the federal government will ever solve the problem of federal over reach. To put the power of the feds back in the box, it’s going to take strong government at the state level, to stand up and challenge the power of the feds. I would argue that the state elections are as important, if not more important than the national elections.

Like I said before, the feds aren’t going to solve the problem, but we can at least get people elected at the fed level, who won’t put up a fight when the states try to take their Constitutional power back.

Concur

ss396 Monday, May 23rd at 6:52PM EDT (link)

That’s why we need to stop pushing, pushing, pushing our sitting Governors into runs at the Presidency. We will need strong State governments if they are going to take their powers back. Let’s get the momentum and policies committed to and going in the right direction first.

Sola scriptura, Sola fide, Sola gratia

 
 
 

One of these things is not like the other.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:07AM EDT (link)

Comparing someone that implemented universal healthcare to someone that created a commission to look into it and then rejected it…

I don’t see how Romney could ever use that against him.

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

If T-Paw goes after RomneyCare

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 1:12PM EDT (link)

too aggressively, than Mitt can tear into Pawlenty’s renewable energy mandates, and make the case that they both passed aggressive legislation, that later became very unpopular liberal policy goals.

That conversation doesn’t help Pawlenty, and in the act of defending his record, he inadvertently helps lift some of the burden off Romney.

As it stands now, no one is really talking about any Pawlenty legilative albatrosses. Why should Pawlenty risk exposing a potential weakness of his own, to attack Romney’s weakness, when their are plenty of others already doing a good enough job at attacking RomneyCare?

 
 

Why can't Pawlenty just state that he looked at

Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 12:17PM EDT (link)

Universal Health Care and the individual mandate and decided against it saying it wasn’t for the citizens of MN nor America?

Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”

Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !

Arguing the issue doesn't hurt Pawlenty

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 12:58PM EDT (link)

but if he argues too effectively, he could unintentionally take the burden of RomneyCare off of Mitt’s shoulders.

In the years leading up to RomneyCare, a number of GOP Governor’s, and other elected officials, were looking at the idea of an individual mandate. As I said before, the issue doesn’t hurt Pawlenty, but while explaining why he at least considered it, Mitt can make his point that he simply implemented the same policy that a majority of the party was considering, it was a mistake, and for the same reason’s Pawlenty decided it was bad Policy, now Mitt believes the same.

That’s why it’s just best for T-Paw to let the issue lie, and let others make the case against RomneyCare.

The Difference is That Pawlenty can say he said No

Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 2:15PM EDT (link)

While Mitt wasn’t able to discern that it was a bad idea and he actually implemented a bad idea and failed program at huge expense to Mass. and its citizens.

Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”

Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !

 
 
 
 
 

I think the Pawlenty nay-sayers

Goldwater_Conservative (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 9:58AM EDT (link)

need to get a second (or actually their first direct look) at him. Dont go by the mantra you have heard.

 

He has a great record as governor. I just don't see how he can motivate an electorate.

akafroman Monday, May 23rd at 10:21AM EDT (link)

If he were going up against John Kerry, Pawlenty would be a perfect candidate, but he is going up against one of the most telegenic presidents in modern history (even though Obama is completely prepackaged, we have to “know thy enemy” and not underestimate his one talent= running for office…also= a billion dollars).

I tried to be objective when I watched Pawlenty on “Huckabee”, but I just don’t know how he can compete against a telegenic incumbent president with a complicit media.

Judge for yourself:

Mr. Obama is Overrated as a Communicator

kipling (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 10:46AM EDT (link)

I have never found Mr. Obama particularly engaging as a communicator. He is just your typical demagog.

The power of his speeches evaporate at the gas pump and the unemployment line.

And If Pawlenty Calls BIG BRObama (Basically) A Liar?

Ausonius (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:02AM EDT (link)

Imagine the Thin-Skinned One in a debate, where his own words – lying, contradictory, hypocritical words – are quoted at him!

Any candidate will have almost 4 years of verbal ammunition against BIG BRObama, including the most recent duplicitous speech on Israel’s 1967 borders. Besides plans for ever-increasing taxation, the litany of taxes and fees already raised on everyone, the promise of higher energy costs, the odds are that unemployment will not budge much (unfortunately).

I have some very talented 8th Graders whom I would trust in the White House more than this doublethinking dictator wannabe. :)

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

Cato@rock.com

AND…Know Your Czars…Before They Hit BIG BRObama’s Unemployment Line in November: http://www.czarcards.us/

 
 

He can motivate by telling the truth.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 10:54AM EDT (link)

People are tired of having sunshine blown up their skirt with no substance.

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

Truth is absolutely the best strategy

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:18AM EDT (link)

And Pawlenty is showing some courage by promoting the unvarnished truth about agriculture subsidies, and avoiding the temptation to waffle on this conservative principle because Iowa has a disproportionate leverage on the primary schedule.

Courage on subsidy issues. Focus on the correct target (Obama) rather than fellow Republicans. Freely admitting past mistakes and firmly moving to correct (i.e. cap-and-trade). This is a strategy for success.

I think T-Paw is definitely off to a good start.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 

nightwister, Obama's smoke leaves me cold.

Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 2:34PM EDT (link)

But I get your drift. Pawlenty was more than adequate in the first debate, and has released 2 great videos. He definitely comes across as the adult in the room compared to Obama. I do like Cain, but having read your other posts about Pawlenty and the need for experience, I get that 2012 is not the year to break somebody in. Imagine how much worse things might be if Obama actually had some experience, so it’s imperative that we elect a president who knows how to undo the harm that’s been done and move the country in the right direction. If Pawlenty can show the side of himself from the video a little more in the debates, speeches, etc., I think he’s the nominee. I’m just not seeing any downside at this point.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)

 
 

When Pawlenty "tells it like it is"

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 1:19PM EDT (link)

I find him very inspiring. I have heard a few interviews from T-Paw, where he has incorporated his own spin on the Chris Christie’s “adult conversation” mode. He comes off blunt, and too the point. It’s only when he goes into “politician” mode, when he sounds dopey.

Less SC GOP debate Pawlenty, and more “I’m running for President” preview video T-Paw.

 
 

Keeping an open mind here but...

sundaycombo Monday, May 23rd at 10:46AM EDT (link)

It’s hard to see him hitting Obama on the economy when he left office with his State facing a 6.2 billion deficit. I just read that the legislature is most likely to be called back for a special session by Gov Drayton to deal with it.

For those of us who know the 2012 election will come down a referendum on Obama’s handling of the economy, that fact is not very inspiring, He also criticized the Obama stimulus (correct call!) and then took the money anyway and put it toward the budget deficit. How many times would Obama bring that up in a debate if the two went head to head? He also raised taxes on cigarettes statewide.

Perfection does not exist in human candidates

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 11:20AM EDT (link)

so we should not expect. We should expect them to be good, on balance. Hopefully better than the competition. But not perfect.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 

I have always liked Pawlenty

urherex Monday, May 23rd at 12:04PM EDT (link)

and if he does get it I’d Love to see him (or anyone)
pick Liz Cheney for V.P.

 

Tough? I'll wait till he boxes a kangaroo or something.

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 12:22PM EDT (link)

And what’s with T-Paw? Is that supposed to sound tough- like T-Pain or TI?

More like J-Lo; lot’s of dancing and giggles.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it's his hip-hop name

gpclaw Monday, May 23rd at 1:20PM EDT (link)

The kids love it when he campaigns in his track suit, and Kango.

 
 

he would connect to voters in the debates.

averagevoterdotcom Monday, May 23rd at 12:33PM EDT (link)

he has a great shot.
he wants it.
his management of campaign is great so far.
he is on the attack.
I think if he stays consistently aggressive, he will likely be potus.
he must do this to overcome milktoast aura.

 

As a Minnesotan

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 1:33PM EDT (link)

I was disappointed at times in Governor Pawlenty. Mostly due to his energy – cap and trade – ideas. I have come around to him a lot in the last couple of years though.

Pawlenty’s Pros:

Prolife
Governed a fairly blue state with a mostly red agenda and was reelected in a tough year for Rs
Connects with voters
Can give a good rousing speech
***As Governor he made a point to attend ceremonies for MN military units leaving and returning from overseas tours***
Fought the democratic controlled legislature numerous times particularly on taxes and spending – he may have a laid back persona, but he CAN fight
MN Governors have a long history of being corrupt beyond understanding, the party they belong to having no real bearing on the subject, but as best as I can tell, Pawlenty was legitimately different in this

Pawlenty’s Cons:

Can seem boring
Went left on some issues while Governor – Cap and Trade again

That isn’t an exhaustive list and although he isn’t currently my guy, I would be very satisfied working and voting for him if he becomes the nominee. Of the “frontrunners” as they stand now, he is definitely my favorite.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

My "guy" is Bachmann

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Monday, May 23rd at 1:37PM EDT (link)

In case anyone was curious, my Congresswoman(MN-6) and a very awesome person is my first choice at this time. Her odds are pretty slim, but she is the biggest fighter of all the announced or rumored candidates I am aware of. We need a fighter more than anything right now.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

 

Good post Hooah_Mac

cordpt Monday, May 23rd at 2:07PM EDT (link)
 

I will get excited about Pawlenty...

Steve Summers Monday, May 23rd at 1:41PM EDT (link)

If he really does tell Iowans that as president, he will end all the subsidies – including ethanol – and renounces his support for the carbon scam. Otherwise, he’s just another lying, double-talking politician willing to say anything to get elected so he can do something completely different.

Well, I'm now officially excited about Pawlenty.

Steve Summers Monday, May 23rd at 7:53PM EDT (link)

Having been burned by our candidates many times, I’m not going to become a true believer yet – but America really, really needs a “Dad” president – someone who will tell us straight that we’ve screwed up, that fixing the damage from our mistakes is going to be painful, but that it has to be done, and we’re strong enough to get through it. Another “mom” president like Obama that tells us “everything will be alright” and “don’t worry, the government will always love you and take care of you” will just destroy us.

Pawlenty has just demonstrated that he’s willing to REALLY tell the painful truth, even to people who won’t want to hear it. That takes actual guts (unlike the kind of “guts” it takes to say “oh, you have bin Laden in your sights? OK, I guess you can go ahead and shoot him” after pondering the issue for hours and hours.) I deeply respect that. I sure hope he keeps it up. I’m going to have my checkbook ready.

 
 

Well Steve

urherex Monday, May 23rd at 2:56PM EDT (link)

I’m sure he’ll appariate your support. He did tell them he
will end subsidies for ethanol.

 

Pawlenty Supported Ethanol Mandates as Governor

eboone Wednesday, May 25th at 11:41PM EDT (link)

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/09/26_mccalluml_ethanol/

Just another hypocrite politician……. Real conservatives here in Minnesota nicknamed him Governor Green for selling us out to the ethanol and wind power activists.