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Chris Christie’s… NAZI JERSEY!

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  June 16th, 2011 at 04:30 PM  | 

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Today’s let’s-urinate-on-the-memory-of-Nazi-victims comes to us courtesy of  Communications Workers of America International Vice President Christopher Shelton, who seems to be having difficulty telling the difference between murdering millions of people in literal carload lots, and ending public sector employees’ ability to collectively bargain over how much of said people’s work-offered health insurance policies has to come out of their pocket.  And by ‘be having difficulty telling’ I mean ‘is too cognitively impared to recognize.’  Watch the video yourself before you tell me I’m wrong:

Yeah.  When the first words out of your mouth include “Welcome to Nazi Germany,” (and you end by threatening to start World War III in your home state) you have a problem with your rhetoric.  Because, generally speaking, the ability to claim that one is in a fascist dictatorship and police state that ruthlessly suppresses dissent and persecutes minorities and get away with it is usually an unsubtle hint that one is in fact not in a fascist dictatorship, etc, etc, etc.  People who are actually in fascist dictatorships, etc, etc, etc, generally don’t bring up the subject in public.  And they certainly don’t do it over a loudspeaker.

If you’re wondering why Big Labor shills are freaking out more than usual, it’s because they’re feeling extra-betrayed:  Democratic leadership in the state legislature (Senate President Stephen Sweeney and Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver) made a deal with Governor Christie, largely because the alternative is eventual financial ruin for New Jersey (besides, they’ve got Christie to take the heat for this).  And what is the appalling, Nazi-tainted deal?

  • Ending of collective bargaining over health care benefit contribution levels for public sector employees; new levels will be determined by the legislature.
  • Said contribution levels to go from 1.5% – that is not a typo – to 5 to 6%.  Over four years.
  • Pension contributions by public sector employees to be raised by between 1% and 3.5% (judges go from 3% to 12%), with some of that increase to be phased in over several years.
  • No more automatic cost-of-living increases until there’s money to spare for it again.

Yup.  A blueprint for Nazi rule, this bill is.  It’s also supposed to save the New Jersey taxpayer one hundred and twenty two billion dollars over thirty years, but apparently that’s less important than making sure that Chris Shelton and his ilk keep getting more than their fair share.  Which is really what this is about; greed by jumped-up thugs in suits who think nothing of cynically manipulating the worries and fears of their group’s membership via vicious, violence-tinged agitprop.

I’d note which political group liked to do that, but I suspect that the irony would be too much for some.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

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  • gekster

    When union members actually see how much money the union takes every year, the medical and pension might not look so bad.

    as a note: automatic collection was a really big factor in the Wisconson protests, even though they didn’t say it out loud.

  • krutnewm

    It makes them look awful publicly and is a clear sign that they are losing the debate.

    Though I would watch out if I was Moe – LaborUnionReport is not going to like him stealing his thunder by posting about union shenanigans! LOL

  • acat

    Not union dues, were I part of a union.
    Not health coverage.
    Not income tax, nor social security nor medicare.
    Certainly not United Way.

    Let the government and the insurance company send me a bill.

    (guess which one gets paid last)

    Mew

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Small government, limited taxes and regulation, and paying your bills.

  • rightwingmom52

    When I worked for the in-house legal team for an upscale, major retailer for 5 years, each year, United Way had their big push to get 100% of the employees to pledge their deductions. Every department that had 100% participation got some kind of reward. I think one year it was even an extra day off. There was a lot of pressure from the top down to donate. Believe it or not, most of our legal team, including our general counsel, looked upon this as extortion and refused to cave. After the first couple of years, they stopped asking us.

  • acat

    The United Way guys who get brought in to do presentations hate that.

    Mew

  • aesthete

    that the “Hitler destroyed unions” meme is flawed. In point of fact, the Nazi party dismantled trade unions (*not* public unions) to replace them with state-sponsored unions in those industries as an attempt to curtail Communist influence and sympathy with industrial workers. These state unions (in theory, anyways) were supposed to be stronger than their private counterparts, with state sanction — but these stronger unions were also advertised to manufacturers as an inoculation against Communism. In a very real sense, this change was made both to satisfy the workers who voted for Nazis but still had Communist sympathies (or who could be swayed to the Communists), not as a way to combat unions and their membership.

    The Nazis and the Communists mostly competed for the same voters: the Nazis were able to get ahold of some German Junker support due to their being seen as more reasonable than commies by allowing them to keep their acquisitions in regulated and nationalized fashion, and they were better at getting rural votes as well, but the base of support for both parties overlapped significantly and there was significant crossover.

  • renny

    I had c. a little less than $1000 a year deducted for dues. People who have to contribute more to their health ins. might find they would like to have that $1000 back in their paychecks.

    The truth is that unions have had their day. They gave us the 5-day 40-hour work week as the norm, raised the industrial factory worker into the middle class, and established the idea of benefits as part of employment.

    But today, they are obsolete, and I doubt Ford or any large business is going to try to revert to 18th C. laissez faire capitalism where workers might be maimed or killed with no owner consequence or even interest. Those days are also gone.

    Just as we have moved from land lines to cell phones and typewriters to iPads and paper books to digital, unions have to move on too, and their loss will be workers’ gains as the corruption, waste, and political sevitude (mine have taken my money to pay themselves 1/2 a mill a year and endlessly endorse and throw money at cookie-cutter Stepford Dem. candidates decade after decade while supporting those candidates’ whacko socialist schemes and disasters like o’care and the Ponzis of the entitlements, of which now my pension is a major problem) will also be alleviated and maybe disappear.

    Time is not on their side.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    The truth is that the work force was moving towards all of those things even without the labor movement due to increased competition for ever more skilled positions.

    I suppose they deserve a little credit for alleviating the worst of conditions int he early days, but by the time WW2 was over there was no longer a need for them at all.

    Remember that they kept Blacks out of good jobs for decades, they have employed thug tactics, featherbedding and mafia ties.

    And they have in some cases actually bankrupted their industries or drove them offshore.

    Just like all of the other parts of the Democratic coalition, when you inspect them closer you see nothing but greed, lust for power, and raw self interest.

  • standingonthewall

    Perhaps there truly are times when “Ignorance is bliss.” But, in times like these it is clear that ignorance is usually quite painful. It is painful to watch for sure. It is even more painful at the ballot box.

  • leftylurker

    But then, if you get hurt, and you don’t have insurance, then what happens? Or if your retirement fails and your too old and weak to work?

    I’m happy to have money deducted out my my checks in case this happens to me, but if you don’t want to, will you promise that you won’t ask the government for help?

    I’m all for people making their own decisions and being self reliant, I just don’t want to bail them out if they screw it up.

  • johnt

    Could anyone tell these savages that they’re the ones who crave State power, that reducing government is the opposite. The choice of words is however telling, and very revealing. And not just of their beast like stupidity, which Normal People take as a given.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …Medicare and/or Social Security to actually *be* there when you hit retirement age. I’m not, and I’m barely forty.

    Besides, I think acat is actually taking the ‘If we stop making deductions painless, we’ll stop having quite so many’ line of reasoning with regard to payroll deductions. I’m not sure that doing that sort of thing would work, but I can see the argument there.

  • aesthete

    that government would bail them out, then that would be perfectly doable. Not to put too fine a point on it because you seem like a nice guy, but it’s you and yours who are to blame for the expectation that government is Plan B for when you get in a bind, even one caused by lack of foresight or personal responsibility.

  • JSobieski

    Are you willing to support an opt out option for people? Say in exchange for a fixed low tax rate?

    You say that you don’t want to bail people out who screw up, but you are more than willing to force other people to do just that.

    The problem with a legal entitlement to a safety net is the entitlement part.

  • aesthete

    just rode a trend that was already well underway. Every metric for quality of life was going up quickly far before unions showed up; the trend merely continued and unions got the credit.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …at least as I understand it. Which is that people say/believe one thing about their future when they’re healthy and feeling self-reliant, and say/believe another down the pike when they’re older and more vulnerable and the “bills” come due on their earlier decisions.

    That is, too many folks (and I’m not pointing fingers at any of my fellow RedStaters) rail against a safety net until their for it for themselves. Sort of the Al Gore” being for it before you’re against it”(or vice versa here).

    But others mean what they say and will follow through. And distinguishing between the two is impossible from the outside.

    And as noted, people’s perspectives do change over time apart from any self-serving considerations that may underlie such changes. That’s just human nature. And the hook is compassion for our fellow humans, especially when happenstance seems to be a major theme in their suffering.

    The conundrum is how do we provide this aid as a society. I don’t have any easy answers, but over time I become more convinced – looking at history and observable human behavior – that government is a bad agent to administer this that overall does more harm than good – especially due to their coercive power and increasing lack of accountability as their control over our lives expands.

    I think we need to move towards voluntary community, but am not clear how we get from point A to point B beyond starting by putting an end to further centralizing of government functions and starting to unravel the tightening bands.

  • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

    feel free to send them a little extra, since you’re feeling so generous. I’m 52, and I am not counting on Social InSecurity or Medicare being there for me, either. The only difference between SS and what Bernie Madoff did to his victims is that we can’t put FDR or his legislature in prison.

  • 1stRichard

    With a whole chapter in Mein Kampf dedicated to Unions there is no doubt that Unions were an important part of Nazism. Former locksmith Anton Drexler and Karl Harrer founded the German Workers Party (DAF). Anton Drexler at a workers union meeting said, ?I am a socialist like yourselves, and want manual workers to gain equality?? and with this the Union members bought in to the populist rhetoric ignoring what direction this was going to take them. Adolf Hitler joined The German Workers Party making a note of his similar ideology to gain power and with Hitler being a distinguished speaker who drew large crowds. Anton Drexler and Adolf Hitler went on to write the 25 points of the Program of the NSDAP ? The National Socialist Workers’ Party from a Labour Union. They created the German Labor Front and on that day the Nazis seized the Free Trade Unions, they publicly announced that a “united front of German workers” with Hitler as honorary patron.

    The NSDAP also started a Union, given the historical parallels every Union member should be running away from these Unions. This leads to the question are they that stupid or is the same populist rhetoric making them ignorant fools, a useful idiot?

  • izoneguy

    Most people do not like history. The American schools have been taken over by the left. They revise history to suit their purposes. That is why it is important to not let the schools brainwash your kids. Sit them down and teach them the real history – the true history of America and the world. Make them challenge the teachers. I am not very popular with my kids teachers. I know they give my oldest son a hard time. My wife and I always talk about putting our sons in private schools. I would rather fight and find out what they are really teaching.
    For the most part our school system is moderate. I do get some of the teachers hyperventaling – I enjoy it…….

  • andytd

    After watching the video of C.Shelton’s rant, I couldn’t help but recall film I have seen of A. Hitler ranting before Berlin’s masses. C.Shelton claims that Chris Christie is Adolf, but he himself is acting like Hitler! Hitler’s method of gaining power was to create political unrest, and then sweep in as the savior…sound like any certain political party/movement we all know of?

  • Adjoran

    We both have the same chance of our wishes coming true, I suspect.

  • gpclaw

    But then, if you get hurt, and you don?t have insurance, then what happens? Or if your retirement fails and your too old and weak to work?

    Personal responsibility leads to better choices. This may mean going with less during your working years, so that you can save more. It also places greater importance on family. Your safety net would be investing in your children, and developing a strong family bond, so that if need be, they can help support you if you fall on your face.

  • leftylurker

    So, to answer a few things:

    Moe: yeah, I would be delusional to expect to get anything out of the system. I pay into it because I have to, and out of responsibility for the people who paid into it before me.

    JSobieski: 100% support an opt out, in the same way that I support no-helmet motorcycle laws so long as I don’t have to pay for someone’s medical care after they wreck themselves.

    Civil hit at the heart of what I was saying. I don’t like it when people only like the government when its giving them checks. I have paid taxes my whole life, and I’ve actually voted in ways that have led to my taxes being increased. I’m okay with that, because I like the services I get, and when I lost my job in 2002 and collected 6 months of unemployment, I didn’t feel guilty at all.

    I am all for privitizing social security, medicare, etc., because markets generally do a lot better than governments at creating wealth, but, and this is a big one, then if things go wrong, if you make bad investments, then what are you going to do? I would like to think I have invested in family and community, but not everyone does. I wonder what happens to them.

  • Next93

    I thought the United Way dropped support for the Boy Scouts because they wouldn’t give potential pedophiles unfettered access to young boys oops, what I meant was exercised thier constitutional right of association, umm, wouldn’t accept homosexuals as scoutmasters?

  • Next93

    Idiots who buy this sort of rhetoric seem to think that the Nazis came to power by promising to establish a murderous, authoritarian state that would eventually leave the country in ruins. Well, they didn’t. They came to power by promising government pensions, and government health care and “stimulus” packages through an unholy alliance of business, unions and government (eerily similar to the GM and Chrysler bailouts).