We should be placing bets on how long it is going to take for the Dems to realize they are looking at a sitting Mondale, and not a Bill Clinton people (somehow) wanted to succeed.

Which offers “sitting duck” a new meaning.

. . .not a new suit. And given it is Biden we are actually discussing, maybe socks would be a more appropriate metaphor.

I agree with you completely about BHO not being the nominee; that was the thrust of my first post. And yes: anyone insane enough to not recognize the very opposite of momentum deserves what they get. Their internal polling may well be without precedent in its negativity towards this man, but we are dealing with Progressives, and Denial is a key part of their thought process. They will put this move off as long as possible, longer than a rational group would consider. But they know whatever they do, the Press will hail it as a watershed moment of political courage and savvy, so there is always a soft place beneath them to fall.

My starry-eyed nature fails me yet again. I didn’t catch how devious the implications actually are.

That said, even with the Media’s ever-present safety cushion, Obama doing what he has done to the country and then cutting and running would be a very tough sell. Especially if we end up with somebody willing to call a spade a spade like Perry (any and all other implications re Perry aside), who could with one sound bite define this idea in this cycle’s “There he goes again” moment. Even someone like Chris Matthews would have a hard time with this — it is one thing to suspend disbelief, quite another to watch a savior run away from his job. They would have to provide a believable reason, and I’m not sure that is possible.

The disaster this Presidency has turned out to be would seem a fatal millstone to whomever they offer up. They sold voters a near-diety who has accomplished precisely nothing — quite literally — while digging the holes we were already in far deeper. No one is better off after Obama. No one. If Cuomo chooses to act as a sacrificial lamb, so be it. But all the signs say whomever they run is going to lose, and probably badly. That’s not something anyone wants on their resume.

. . .that they have a bottomless capacity for rationalizing why their Ideals prove dysfunctional if not overtly malevolent. Their hearts, after all, are squarely in the right place, unlike the unfeeling hordes that comprise us Conservatives.

I suppose it boils down to whether or not the sacrifice is aware it is on an altar, or if the Party would willingly throw Cuomo to the wolves. This would seem highly doubtful, as he is the closest thing they have to a young star on the horizon or what have you. Internal polling absolutely must show this to be an at best dubious cycle for the Democrats, and quite possibly watershed disaster, 500 year flood territory.

Logically, if anyone would be willingly thrown to the wolves at this point in the scenario, Occam’s Razor would dictate it be the guy who happens to be next in line and who has proven himself an expendable joke: Biden. They could set Obama aside on a shelf for whatever ostensible reason to ripen in the UN or whatever, and acknowledge Reality by putting JB on the block with someone meaningless as a VP. But, acknowledging Reality is not what they are known for.

. . .need be acknowledged. One where the Dems play to win, and one where they throw in the towel. But if internal polling can be said to serve a purpose, and given the bankable unlikelihood of anything changing between now and next summer or so, it is hard to imagine them playing to win when they would only have all the more to lose as a result. Hence, Biden as a genuine and undeniable lamb to slaughter.

But assuming they do try to win, I’m not sure it is possible for a Democrat to be “miles away from [this] scene.” The world is too small, and they partied too hard and too loudly for too long. Safe to say Cuomo has supported Obama throughout these last years, at the very least in terms of Party loyalty from the moment it became apparent Obama had wrested the mantle away from HRC. And here again, we encounter the gravitational pull of the magnitude of the absurdity it took to get this man elected in the first place. Nobody ever questioned him. I imagine it will be easy for the Republican candidate to find plenty of footage of Obama and Cuomo essentially arm-in-arm, and that may well be sufficiently poisonous to Cuomo or anyone else.

And, someone over at Lucianne just made a quite astute observation. For Joe to go, Obama would need admit, tacitly or otherwise, Joe was a mistake. Has this ever happened? Biden would of course resign for health reasons and the good of the nation etc., but peoples’ eyes are open, and it would again be a tough, tough sell.

. . .when your goals are ever on the horizon, but never within reach. Mirages are like that.

And our “engagement” needs to be in the trenches, where they are currently at their strongest. They have our schools, and our Media. A concerted, dedicated overtly conscious effort will be required to retake both, like something we’ve possibly never seen before. It will require organization and effort on the part of hundreds of thousands. But once this has begun, we will find it surprisingly easy to prevail, as it is not a matter of winning the argument. That is a given. We need only start it, each and every time they drift away from Reality, and the rest will take care of itself.

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