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Reid Bill voted down in House, 173-246.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  July 30th, 2011 at 03:09 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

It needed a 2/3rd majority to pass: it didn’t get a simple majority. Final total coming up.

UPDATE: Yeas 173, Nays 246. No Republicans voted Yea ([UPDATE]: Although two originally voted yea, apparently).

FURTHER UPDATE: For those trying to keep track, this was the Reid bill that played some extremely fast-and-loose scoring games in order to try to make it look like a fiscally responsible piece of legislation.  It not only sparked Paul Ryan’s soon-to-be-infamous ‘moon covered in yoghurt‘ comparison; it also attempted to re-institute (translation: ‘sneak in’) some draconian tax hikes.  It’s going to be an open question now whether Harry Reid should even bother trying to pass it in the Senate tonight, seeing as the House has made it clear that it won’t pass and forty-three Republican Senators have made it equally clear that he won’t make sixty on a cloture vote.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

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  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Moody’s echoes Tea Partier’s re limited magnitude of Boehner and Reid Plans and Obama’s non-plan
    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/174447-moodys-neither-plan-protects-the-nations-aaa-rating

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    but I’m not ready to accuse him of having a Harry Reid tainted Trojan Horse debt ceiling bill in his back pocket which he’ll whip out at the 11th hour.

  • proudgop

    any Dems vote against the bill
    Politico is reporting 43 senators will vote against Reid bill in Senate ( they send a letter to Reid today)

    The 2 Maine Senators, Brown MA, Murkoski AK ddn’t sign the letter

  • lineholder

    China came out and blasted leadership (Obama in particular) saying America needs to “live within its means”. I’m guessing that since China is on the move to invest heavily in Europe, this is a message that if our leaders can’t get their act together, don’t expect China to act as a creditor in bailing us out.

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    n/t

  • macbookben

    keeps “reminding” us that there are only 3 days left until the country defaults on its payments. Why do the media continue to report this demonstrable falsehood (US can and will make good on its debt payments), and why aren’t the Republicans getting some leverage out the truth behind the default business?

  • clintonformccain

    A Moody’s Aaa rating with a “negative outlook” is not the same as a downgrade to a Aa rating. The quote from Moody’s suggested that the scope of the current budget cutting may not be enough to avoid a “negative outlook”.

  • lineholder

    But there’s more than evidence at this point to indicate that this isn’t just a head fake on China’s part.

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    the markets would not buy.

  • lineholder

    .

  • Carner_York

    “Despite our differences, we’re dealing with reasonable, responsible people who want this crisis to end as quickly as possible,” the speaker said.

    http://nationaljournal.com/congress/obama-enters-debt-ceiling-talks-20110730

    Reasonable people???? Give……..me…………a…………..BREAK!

  • sarg01

    According to National Journal, the Senate hasn’t officially killed the Boehner bill that passed the House. They note that Reid is keeping the bill alive as a fallback in case the Senate can’t pass anything else:

    Reid, a canny legislative infighter, appears to be leaving himself a safety valve, however: The Democratic leader has set an evening Senate vote that essentially would leave Boehner’s bill on parliamentary life support — leaving Senate leaders the option of revive it at the last minute if no other deal to raise the debt ceiling is reached.

    National Journal Story

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    The problem was not caused by tea partier/GOP refusal to do a “clean” debt ceiling bill or any of the iterations Obama and Reid allude to behind the scenes or in their one bill that even they filibuster. The problem is the amount of the debt and lack of a plan to solve the problem going forward. Most of the 22 promise keeper tea partiers that voted no on Boehner’s bill cited the same problem as Moody’s, ie that none of the plans solves the problem. They are all too puny.

    I think the tea partiers have overcome the Boehner leadership and have now laid the foundation that reduces the risk of the no vote on the debt ceiling, ie they have made it quite possible that any crisis that occurs on or around Aug 2 will be seen as the fault of Obama and the Dems.

    My only reason for being for the compromise at this late hour was a fear that a crisis would affirm Obama’s lie given the incompetence of our leadership. I no longer think so.

    But I still say that conservatives should not split over differences on this matter. After all, we are having o protect America from its own President who seems intent on sabotaging his own country. Both sides of this debate have justifiable positions.

    Let us reason together and not split up over this.

  • septembergurl

    Boehner is kind of in a living dead or zombie like state, to be brought back to life if necessary.

    And it will be necessary. What will happen now, the BBA stripped out of Boehner,it passes the Senate, goes back to the House, passes the House w/some Democrap votes, Barky signs it,, all over. For now.

    Means debt ceiling will come back to haunt Barky in 2012. Big win for us.

  • sarg01

    … at least not unless they do so tonight.

    A move to amend would be subject to filibuster. Even if both Reid and McConnell agree it needs amending and can deliver 60 votes, they have to have unanimous consent to toss the rules regarding cloture. Will Jim DeMint or Rand Paul go along with unanimous consent?

    The rules require one day after filing for cloture before the cloture vote, plus after a successful cloture vote, there’s 30 hours of debate before the vote to amend. Then they still have to actually pass the bill, which is another 30 hours.

    So basically, if they’re going to use the Boehner bill as a fallback, they have to use the exact Boehner bill as passed by the House.

  • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

    … Reid and the squishy republicans (both Georgia’s senators fall into this category) were now only dealing with the bipartisan CCB bill.

  • carolina

    by another 12 hrs. BO better be careful, or Reid will ‘eat up’ as much time as Boehner did.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I have been mostly out of pocket last two weeks, but paying attention.

    Aug 2 is coming up, Boehner bill is shot down, Reid bill is shot down and the Messiah still has not provided one little atom of leadership.

    So what the hell happens now? Default? forced austerity? Because I am up for anything, been hording food, gold, and ammo.

  • http://aposematic.wordpress.com aposematic

    The House should immediately, upon receipt of the Reid Senate Bill, vote it down and send the CCB back to the Senate Monday night, August 1, putting the hot potato of the “fictional default” back in the Dems hands.