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The Left: still quite unhinged about Dick Cheney.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  August 30th, 2011 at 04:00 PM  | 

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Former Vice President Dick Cheney…

You probably remember him.

…anyway, Darth Cheney has a book out today (“In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir“): and the Left is acting – about as you’d expect, honestly (note that I’m including in that list a bunch of people who are still trying to pretend that they’re not on the Left, these days).  The shrieking is highly amusing, not least for the reason that most of the poor schmucks doing it are fairly transparently trying to avoid thinking about the fact that the current administration is more or less doing a Cargo Cult imitation of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice’s foreign policy.  Which is to say, if you look at it from a distance and squint then it kind of looks like the previous administration’s foreign policy… but get up close and you realize that it’s all bamboo and palm fronds where steel should be.  Not to mention all the people standing around and scratching their heads over why the magic spells weren’t working.

Then again, that’s an improvement over our 2008 expectations with regard to this administration.

At any rate, the book’s out today, and it promises to cause just as many hysteria-based aneurysms as Donald Rumsfeld‘s Known and Unknown: A Memoir did.  So, you may want to check it out for that alone.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

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  • altexas

    The most qualified man to ever serve as vice President was Thomas Jefferson under John Adams. At that time, the runner up became the second even though they were of different parties. As a result of their differences, Thomas went back to Monticello and grew plants animals and apparently, babies.

    The next most qualified man did not occur until George Bush the First served under Ronaldus Maximimus. Even at that, his service was pretty standard for the position.

    Not until Dick Cheney did we have a vice-President that actually exercised administrative function. A function so meaningful (for a vice President) that it warranted and still warrants criticism from the popular media. Rather then being the brunt of jokes like an Algore or a Lyndon Johnson, Dick Cheney is actually hated for doing stuff, meaningful stuff. Stuff that changed the world for the better.

    It is said that a vice President has two jobs; 1, he is to attend State funerals and 2. he is to check on the health of the President daily.

    Dick Cheney did more than that. Dick Cheney gave up his Texas citizenship so he could serve under George Bush the Second. Now that is sacrifice. The man is a patriot.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    nt

  • ntrepid

    First of all, great comment altexas. I won?t even touch the ?most qualified? opinion but about that ?went back to Monticello and grew plants animals and apparently, babies? I may quibble slightly. I have and will continue to argue that Mr. Jefferson was ?The Most Dangerous #2? (1) we have had?from a 2008 RedState comment that seems to have also been related to a diary about the good Mr. Cheney:

    ?These attacks on Mr. Cheney are always quite amusing to me. In him (actually, his mythical MSM persona) the Democrats and the media have created the perfect bogeyman for all occasions. It will be interesting to see their reactions when history finally records him as probably the most relevant VP to-date for our republic. Or, maybe his legacy will just seem extra shiny against the irrelevant-arrogant backdrop of the Mr. Gore-Mrs. Clinton (respectively) duet that served as Mr. Clinton?s number two. But, I digress.?

    ?I?d really like to address this topic of most dangerous VP. U.S. history is littered with irrelevant, even unfilled VP offices so the pool is smaller than many may imagine. Certainly, it is hard to argue that the infamous Mr. Burr was bad before, during, and after his term. His actions were definitely dangerous at times?I just thank God that he was the one to step forward to fill that slot in history and not someone of greater character who may have succeeded in those misguided endeavors.?

    ?With that all said, the grand prize winner on my list of ?Most Dangerous #2 in US History? goes to none other than Mr. Thomas Jefferson. Although the written history of his later career significantly shadows and blurs his performance as our countries second VP, it should be remembered how active he was in undercutting and orchestrating opposition to the first US President not to enjoy the honor and respect carried with the name ?George Washington?. The country and our government were very young and very fragile in those days?Mr. Jefferson?s games were extremely dangerous.?

    ?Not to mention, he was a Democrat so this fits nicely into my overriding agenda.?

    By the way, I?m also on record here as supporting a Cheney/Cheney ticket?pick any two of the top three and I will be happy in 2012.

    Ntrepid
    Proud Redstate Member since April 2006??

    (1) The RedState link doesn?t seem to work but here is the old path anyway: http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/04/the-new-york-post-is-offended-by-bidens-deba/

  • rightwingmom52

    …

  • edintexas

    While all the “historians” (Leftists almost to a [wo[man) jumped on the DNA testing to say it “proved” Jefferson fathered a child with Sally Hemings. However, since Thomas Jefferson had no acknowledged children, the DNA passed from members of his extended family against which the Hemings family DNA was tested.

    IIRC Jefferson’s nephew, and perhaps one other member of his extended family (my recollection is fuzzy on exactly who was living with Jefferson at the time), lived with Jefferson and had equal opportunity to have relations with Ms. Hemings. It is not possible to definitively state that Thomas Jefferson fathered a child with Sally Hemings. It is equally possible that it may have been Thomas Jefferson, or another member of the Jefferson family. The Left was most happy to claim it was definitive, but that is not possible and we should not simply accept their version of history as truth.

  • Scope

    A friend had said that with Cheney on the ticket, he was the experienced adult in the room, so to speak, and provided the strength to the ticket. Agree Cheney should have been at the top of the ticket.

  • devereaux

    http://tinyurl.com/6rn35h

    Stormin Norman and Robert Gates

    http://tinyurl.com/3ub8ae7

  • Scope

    that you could post your links in a clickable fashion, or at least give someone a hint at what you are posting. I have no desire to chase a story that I have no idea what it is about. It’s like a good headline that can draw your attention to want to read further.

  • williamjameson

    Bunch of fake liberal cowards. Where is FOX news and its so called fair and balanced reporting of the facts on Obama’s renditions?. Obama tortures and its concealed, Bush and Cheney do the right thing and its an international crime. Cheney was wise to support doing the right thing just as Clinton and Gore tortured and where was the left then.

    Want to see the left really come unglued, its time for the conservative media to write and talk about Obama’s Renditions aka torture. That will awaken the sleeping anti war left and it it will also compel the media to give Obama the same treat. Nah, the left would never do that, not even MSNBC aka MSDNC but they would have to cover the issue as the momentum grew.

    Keith Olbermann spent about a minute talking about Obama’s renditions, very inspiring choad considering the hours of rants about Bush and Cheney. Turn up the heat and watch Obama drop in the polls.

    http://www.alternet.org/world/142686/obama_brings_gitmo_and_rendition_to_bagram_%28and_not_the_geneva_conventions%29/

    Obama Brings Gitmo And Rendition To Bagram (And Not The Geneva Conventions)

  • Tbone

    Gravitas.

  • macbookben

    …what a deliciously rich metaphor for summarizing Obama’s cut-and-paste anti-terrorism policy adapted specially for his politically correct sensibilities. I would like to find a copy of Richard Feynman’s graduation address and re-read it with a big smile on my face. You nailed it good, Moe.

  • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

    But Gravitas fits him better.

  • popdaddy

    Hannity had a good interview tonight with the best VP in my 60+ years. Dick Chaney deserves the respect of all Americans.

    God Bless Dick Chaney, we need more patriots like him to step forward to rescue America and it’s exceptionalism!

  • victrola

    and I also agree I would have greatly preferred Cheney in the White House to Bush. I never got that queasy feeling in my stomach when Cheney was at a debate, doing a speech, or answering questions from reporters. The biggest failure of the Bush Presidency was that Bush came off being completely in over his head. Whether you agreed or disagreed with him, no one could question Cheney’s competence.

    Call me delusional, but had Cheney had a better ticker, I think he would have at least made the 2008 election with Obama a race instead of McCain who only has a killer instinct when it came to his fellow Republicans.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    He was great in many ways, esp as President in the Louisiana Purchase, the Navy and the war against the Barbary pirates. He sucked on economics and left us in a great depression. more later

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    and Bush to a lesser degree, that the level of hatred from the Left is due to their hatred of strong men that dare to speak the raw truth about the evil and threats we face and what we must do? Mush like the child that is getting his linch money taken by bullies, wants it to stop but resents Dad for making them stand up to the bully?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    nt

  • DerKrieger

    …without any new posts? Is the RS crew on vacation?

  • jonnymadison

    what? you told me too :)

    but seriously, cheney had no chance. I personally, thought the GOP did the smart thing going with McCain. It was a desperate move, but the mood of the country at the time was running as far away from bush as they could, it would have been impossible to get a “3rd bush term”. I don’t like McCain, and it was a desperate move, kinda like a hail mary, but it was the best option at the time. the only better thing would have been to run ron paul and get that annoyance over with.

    Even today people still hate “darth” cheney. I guess some just can’t get over that whole ‘iraq not having wmd’s’ thing. losers.

  • Finrod

    Richard Feynman was the first IIRC to generalize the term cargo cult, with his description of cargo cult science (which is still a problem to this day).

    Personally, my favorite way of using Dick Cheney to make liberals’ heads explode is to tell them that he’s in favor of gay marriage. Works almost every time.

  • Adjoran

    frequently stayed at Monticello and had the run of the place, Jefferson having no sons of his own.

    You are correct that it can never be known for sure, the family agreed to accept the Hemings descendants to end the controversy, since they are related somehow, and even if by the nephews, that’s as close as ANY of the Jefferson family today is to Mr. Jefferson himself anyway.

  • davesinsanantonio

    should be one of our accepted axioms. Too often we let the Left get away with murdering history with their fables and lies. Too often we let them dictate the terms of the debate. I believe that one of Reagan’s strongest points is that he would not let them get away with either. “There he goes again” was one of his most effective lines.

  • davesinsanantonio

    This should be one of our basic operating principles. Too often we let the Left get away with murdering history with their fables and lies. Too often we allow them to dictate the terms of the debate, and accept their definitions of words. I believe that one of Reagan’s strengths was that he did not let them get away with these things. “There he goes again” was one of his most effective lines.

  • peg_c

    This is my current profile pic on FB and I’ve been telling my friends about this and the caption for 2 full years. Hands-down my favorite photo on RS ever. Love this man!

    He was great on Rush yesterday, looking forward to his “Hannity” appearances on my DVR. He’s not robust anymore and we need to appreciate this national treasure while we have him. What a man.

  • harshlightoftruth

    If that isn’t a sell out of small, fiscally-sound government, I’m not sure what is.

  • streiff

    Jefferson attempted to reduce the US Navy from Adams’ which thrashed the French during the Quasi War to gunboats for harbor defense.

  • streiff

    but that is a different debate

  • gunslingr45

    saying the name Karl Rove around a liberal. even if he is plugging for the wrong center way left candidate right now.

  • http://www.thepurpleheart.com/recipient/RecipientDetails.aspx?wid=7f39cbbe-5213-4983-9702-50132a1c73 rsmith7042

    Everything anyone on this blog has said that is positive about VP Cheney is correct and deserved. I would add that Cheney dodged the Vietnam draft citing he had other priorities. He had no problem sending others to war but ran when it was his turn. He is probably the only draft dodger I would vote for, for President.

  • gunslingr45

    I personally, thought the GOP did the smart thing going with McCain.

    He had about as much chance of winning as that crazy woodpecker, woody.

  • YnotNOW

    Small deficits are OK as long as the National Debt has not reached the size where interest payments on the debt are dragging down the economy. But the fact is that the Debt has reached (and exceeded) that size, and it is a major factor in the difficulty in emerging from the current recession.

    Therefore the Debt must be lowered.
    Therefore the Deficit must be lowered – or reversed to start paying down the absolute size of the Debt.

  • jonnymadison

    if deficits dont matter, why do we tax at all? why dont we just defecit finance everything? why do we have limits on the debt?

    our problems are solved! just borrow and spend! oh wait, why are we in this economic mess again?

  • jonnymadison

    however, the mcain/woddy ticket had twice the chance of anyone close to bush. the dems strategy was paint the candidate as bush (remember the mcsame label) and the gop strategy was to distance yourself from bush as much as possible.

  • JSobieski

    We could have a deficit equal to 3% of GDP forever and it wouldn’t really matter.

    Gravity is irrelevant to microbe or even an insect, but gravity is deadly when an elephant falls out of a plane.

  • acat

    streiff. A liberal.

    Just .. no.

    Mew

  • YnotNOW

    in that the Debt should not be allowed to grow faster than GDP growth – at least over a longer term. So a 3% growth in Debt (caused by a deficit equal to 3% of GDP) is only allowable if the economy is growing at a 3% rate (which it is not).

    But this is only long-term.
    We have been growing debt so much faster than GDP growth for the past 4 years (Bush later years and then accelerating wiht Obama), that we need a “correction” – requiring a balanced budget for several years just to get the debt level back on track.

  • jonnymadison

    Holy crap, that is still running up half a trillion dollars a year!

    you don’t get to pay interest on just the deficit, you have to pay it on the whole debt! what happens when interest payments on the accumulated debt become unsustainable? (which is a guaranteed under your suggestion).

  • jonnymadison

    and talks like a duck…

    I mean you gotta ask right?

  • acat

    that they don’t know the answers to.

    In this case, asking whether streiff is a liberal is .. silly. A few minutes with google, using the tag “streiff site:redstate.com” or – better “streiff site:archive.redstate.com” should show why.

    Mew

  • streiff

    deficits, per se, don’t matter. The size of deficits matter a lot.

  • streiff

    if not 1) don’t insult me and 2) don’t misrepresent a factual statement for the sake of some orthodoxy you adhere to.

  • streiff

    is sustainable infinitely via an expanding GDP. It’s a fact. Look it up.

  • jonnymadison

    if you add all the neccessary “if’s”, but that isn’t reality.

    It’s like saying a ponzi scheme will work if you keep adding investors. which is a good analogy based on the economic similarities.

    So basically what you are saying is, “deficits don’t matter if you live in fantasyland”.

  • jonnymadison

    there are lots of things you can say about lawyers :)

  • jonnymadison

    Just trying to have a little fun while discussing a matter of importance to me. Don’t take it personal.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    to great effect.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Only this time mean it, and don’t do it again.

  • jonnymadison

    Honestly Moe, I did mean it the first time.
    I don’t want to hurt feelings, but I do understand that sometimes you can’t tell intent of good natured fun in the written form, so maybe this will help mend fences:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLR25EJtfE

  • westcoastpatriette

    Not to impose myself in the middle of this brouhaha–but if I were angry with you, that link would have sufficed as a sincere, heartfelt apology.

  • ofby4thepeople

    disputing the claims that Jefferson had children with Hemings:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/30/new-book-disputes-claim-jefferson-fathered-childre/

  • williamjameson

    about genocide in Kosovo plus the failed Op Blackhawk to take a hostage . The left never cared that Clinton said 100K were killed in Kosovo according to intel sources. The body count was less than 8% of that.