California caves on Amazon tax. For now.


The can has been kicked for another year.

Lawmakers on Friday sent Gov. Jerry Brown a compromise bill that delays California’s effort to force online retailers such as Amazon.com to collect the state’s sales taxes while retailers lobby Congress for national rules governing online sales taxes.

Essentially, California legislators passed a bill earlier this year that ‘exploited’ a loophole in federal case law that would have required Amazon.com (and others) to collect sales tax on purchases made by California residents.  Amazon.com (and others) promptly ended the affiliate program that provided the loophole.  California legislators blinked with surprise, because apparently they completely missed noticing that Amazon.com always does this (except in New York, where they’re fighting the law in court).  Shockingly, California legislators have now apparently gotten a rush of oxygen to the brain and delayed ‘implementation’ of the tax until September of 2012; this time is supposedly to allow Amazon.com and other online retailers to petition Congress to straighten out national sales tax guidelines (something that Amazon.com has been pushing for, actually). Assuming that Governor Brown signs off on this – and, given that the original bill has pretty conclusively been already shown to be wildly if not insanely optimistic in its estimated revenue*, he’d have to be extremely dumb not to** – Amazon.com will turn its affiliate program back on.

Background on the whole sorry mess that is the Amazon tax here***: suffice it to say that there are a lot of state governments – typically Democratic ones – that cannot seem to grasp the notion that online companies with no physical presence in their states AND a nigh-universal market saturation are harder to push around than brick-and-mortar ones. I’m actually moderately impressed that California legislators were able to even partially see reason on this; the economic situation in that state must be worse than I thought.

The real question, of course, is what happens next year…

Moe Lane (crosspost)

Full disclosure: I am an Amazon.com affiliate for Maryland.

*$200 million a year; what actually happened, of course, was that Amazon.com terminated its affiliates, which not only eliminated the state’s justification for trying to make Amazon.com collect the sales tax; it also eliminated a source of state income tax from the affiliates themselves.

**But, well, it’s Moonbeam, so your guess is as good as mine.

***For those who don’t feel like clicking the link:

Very short version of the Amazon tax controversy: online retailers don’t have to collect sales tax for a state unless they have a physical presence in the state (thanks to a Supreme Court decision). Various state governments (typically Democratic-controlled ones), usually at the instigation of big-box brick-and-mortar retailers who hate the idea that online retailers might do to them what the big-boxes did to small brick-and-mortar retailers*, have decided to get around this by defining an in-state affiliate of an online retailer as being that retailer’s physical presence in the state. When this becomes a state law, Amazon.com responds by immediately terminating its affiliate program in that state, thus neatly eliminating its obligation to collect sales tax**. The last iteration of this happened in California, where Amazon.com simply dropped roughly 25,000 affiliates without even breaking stride.


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How many affiliates will wait until next year?

Kyle-MI (Diary) Saturday, September 10th at 8:18PM EDT (link)

Instapundit has a blurb on this
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/127708/
The focus of the story is Amazon affiliate, Savings.com, who has threatened to move their 100 employees out of CA. So are they going to wait around a year with a sword hanging over their head? In my opinion, they may not move as soon as they planned, but why wouldn’t they move sometime during the next year? I doubt that they are alone with these plans.

You're right.

punditpawn Sunday, September 11th at 9:03AM EDT (link)

No one is going to wait around for Democrats to do the right thing, especially when they have no idea what that is.

 
 

Walmart

DerKrieger (Diary) Saturday, September 10th at 8:46PM EDT (link)

I work for WM and we are regularly encouraged to contribute to the company PAC, WalPAC. I did contribute for a while because I believed that what was good for the company was good for me. I stopped my contribution when our CEO, Mike Duke, co-signed a letter with Andy Stern supporting some of the Obamacare proposals. It angered me that the company would support unconstitutional legislation that was opposed by a majority of Americans and an even larger majority of WM employees because it would harm the competition more than it would harm WM. I place the fact that I am a free born American citizen above the selfish needs of the company. It disgusted me that Duke and the rest of the executive leadership would stab their customers, employees, and shareholders in the back as citizens because it benefitted the company. WM also came out in support of the Dodd-Frank regulation of debit card fees. I can guarantee you that the lower fees will just be added to the profit margin and not result in lower prices simply because the savings spread across all products sold is insignificant, <1 cent. Meanwhile the banks that are negatively impacted by this will simply charge me more money as an individual depositor to make up for the shortfall. So once again WM is putting itself above the citizenry.
Don't get me wrong, I love my job and am very well compensated. I am just sick of the executives placing the company's interests above those of the general public. I benefit more from legislation that is beneficial to ALL Americans than I o from legislation that benefits WM and it's biggest shareholders.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

I forgot

DerKrieger (Diary) Saturday, September 10th at 8:48PM EDT (link)

…to mention that WM also supports the Amazon tax. For these reasons I won’t contribute to WalPAC.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

 

Perfect example of crony capitalism

carolina Saturday, September 10th at 9:22PM EDT (link)

Big businesses negotiate deals with congress that don’t hurt them….. but do hurt new startups.

 

Perfect example of crony capitalism

carolina Saturday, September 10th at 9:22PM EDT (link)

Big businesses negotiate deals with congress that don’t hurt them….. but do hurt new startups.

Yep

DerKrieger (Diary) Saturday, September 10th at 10:43PM EDT (link)

…and it’s gotten worse since we hired Leslie Dach, ex-Ted Kenndey staffer, ex-Edelman partner, and Eco-radical.

And nail biter of a game today. Was worried the Dawgs would beat us.

USC, 1998

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

 
 
 

1 year won't get them the 7000 jobs amazon

carolina Saturday, September 10th at 10:06PM EDT (link)

said they would bring to CA
SC gave them 5 years of tax collection exemption to get a distribution center.