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Gov. Bob McDonnell (R, VA) on short list for VP?

That’s one potential conclusion that you can draw from today’s and yesterday’s Quinnipiac polls looking at Virginia political conditions. Admittedly, they’re just one firm’s polls; also admittedly, anyone likely to be reading this is a hardcore political junky anyway, so we might as well take a look.

Yesterday’s Q-poll looked at Governor McDonnell’s popularity rating*, which is – to be modest about it – practically off of the charts at 61/21. Those numbers represent a 67/17 favorable rating with independents, a barely underwater 39/40 among Democrats… and a 46/32 favorable rating with African-American voters, which presumably should have people perking up at this point – not that it would last long in a hypothetical 2012 Presidential election contest against Obama, of course. Still, ablative armor is still armor, and the unique nature of Virginia’s gubernatorial situation applies here. Bob McDonnell can’t run again for Governor in 2013 any which way anyway; and even an unsuccessful Vice Presidential run would not necessarily stop him from running for Senate in 2014, should Mark Warner (who is also very popular in Virginia) decide that he’d rather run for Governor again in 2013. Or even if Senator Warner decides to stay in the Senate, for that matter.

All of this is of interest largely because of today’s Q-Poll (via Jim Geraghty), which looks at the Virginia Republican primary lineup and the general election. Short version: Perry beats Romney, 25/19 (43/36 in a two-man race); Romney ‘beats’ Obama, 44/42; Obama ‘beats’ Perry, 44/42; and the President is severely underwater with 40/54 disapproval and 41/51 re-election numbers. This essentially means that right now the general Presidential election race is tied in Virginia (both candidates are within MoE in the general election); this is very bad news for the President, as it is absolutely critical for the Democrats that they retain Virginia. There are three in-play states that Obama must win in order to ensure that he eke sout a second term: Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. He doesn’t have to win all three, but there’s no high-probability path to re-election that doesn’t require at least one of them.  Two of those states are controlled by Republicans right now; the third (Virginia) has a split legislature; all three must be considered ‘hostile territory’ for the purposes of campaign scheduling and fundraising.

But from the Republicans’ point of view the situation is not all that rosy: Virginia has been a prime Democratic target for the last decade, and – Tim Kaine aside – the local Democratic party has a good infrastructure and a decent local talent pool (including the aforementioned Senator Warner) to draw from. The ‘native son’ gambit is a commonly-evoked one in American Presidential politics, despite the fact that it usually looks better on paper than it does in real life… but as the above shows, it does look good on paper in this case.  So… Gov. McDonnell may have options, here. Romney in particular may be interested, in fact; he could use the shoring up of his social conservative credentials more than Perry might need to shore up Virginia in general.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*It also shows that regulating abortion clinics like they were medical facilities is extremely popular in Virginia (55/22 for/against). One wonders how much Lila Rose‘s Live Action sting operations had to do with that…

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  • Scope

    Gov. McDonnell is on for VP. It isn’t necessarily Gov. Perry’s. In recent weeks there have been a few articles floating around that Gov. McDonnell had said in public that he would be honored and very interested to be considered for the VP candidate slot. He also said that he wasn’t looking to endorse any presidential candidate until Nov. or Dec.

    The luncheon I attended yesterday, which had Gov. Perry as a speaker wasn’t a fundraiser for Perry, but rather it was a fundraiser for the upcoming Nov. state legislative elections. In fact when Gov. McDonnell spoke, he said that when he asked Perry to speak at the luncheon, he wasn’t the presidential frontrunner at the time of the invite.

    McDonnell was very positive about Perry, talked alot about his great jobs record in Texas, and they obviously are friends, and teased one another during the speeches, about the states trading places every year or so on who has attracted more businesses to their states. McDonnell very pointedly stated that he was not endorsing Perry, and that he won’t make that decision until later in the year. That obviously leaves open the possibility to him endorsing Romney. If Romney is leading at that time, and then McDonnell endorses Romney, he surely may be on Romney’s short list, and there is no question McDonnell would accept that VP candidate invite. In short, McDonnell wants to be the VP, and it doesn’t mean that he will accept the offer by someone with his principles and views. As long as he is the VP it doesn’t matter who the number one on the ticket is.

    There are also reasons why McDonnell has favorables among all the demographics in the state, and it isn’t because of his strict conservative policies and positions. McDonnell has raised some conservative eyebrows in the states conservative population, most recently with signing an EO mandating that all state vehicles be changed over to alternative fuel sources. Another issue that raised some eyebrows was the fact that McDonnell managed a surplus with his first budget year close by not making the required payment into the state employee’s pension funding, but, turned around and gave a 3% bonus to the state employee’s in time for Christmas.

    I agree that VA is sooo much better off with a Republican Gov, Lt. Gov., and Atty Gen. The R’s hold the house, and we hope to gain state Senate majorities this Nov. If that is the case there will be no reason for any reaching across the aisle, as the Republicans will then have complete control of VA.

  • steve010

    marco the best choice.

  • freemanja1991

    will we win the senate and maintain the house?
    Will we be able to maintain the Gov mansion and all state wide offices in 2013?
    Can McDonnell actually beat someone with poll #s like Warner?

  • psyop_hic

    After redistricting, we have nine senate seats up for grabs, and there are nine great candidates for those seats in Fairfax County (senatorial lines do cross county lines). If we pick up two or three of those seats, and fellow Virginians down state send two or three to Richmond, the entire VA legislator will be in Republican hands.

    I think the next governor of Virginia will be Ken Cuchinelli. He is doing a great job as AG, and is young enough to be in politics a long time. He would be a great successor to Gov McDonnell.

    Warner is well-liked, but I think that some of the stank on Kaine rubbed off on him.

  • mboyle1988

    Rubio is a senator. America likes executive experience. Marco is too new. Marco also has much more legitimate presidential aspirations than McDonnell. He can’t afford to lose an election.

    I think the identity politics experiment has failed in the eyes of most Americans. Nominate the most competent people. Pawlenty is off Perry’s list of VP picks because he endorsed Romney. That leaves McDonnell as the best choice.

  • RichmondG30

    Last time I checked, Rubio was equally “male”. Does that make him unfit?

  • littlehouse18

    ..

  • lansing

    I actually think McDonnell would make a great President, but as far as the purpose of a VP, I don’t see how he gets more votes for the Republican ticket.

    If Virginia is truly in contention and only having the Governor on the ticket puts the GOP over the top, I’d argue Obama has already won.

    Rubio is obviously at the top of the list, he’s as perfect as they come, bringing in a pivotal swing state and a Latino. He’s also a movement conservative. I also think the Governor of New Mexico, Martinez, should be near the top.

    I hate playing the race game, but it’s human nature, and if you have a Latino on the ticket, I think the “white guilt” part of the equation goes down significantly, and let’s be honest, that was a BIG part of Obama’s victory in 2008.

    Also, the GOP has to start wooing Hispanics (and it’s not through amnesty). If Hispanics start voting like African-Americans, it’s essentially game over for Republicans. A name like “Martinez” or “Rubio” on GOP the ticket would create a gnashing of teeth like we’ve never seen on the part of Democrats.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    He’s young. We can get at least two Senate terms and a Governorship out of him before we put him in the Oval Office. Look at what they did with Obama, fer cry out loud: the Democrats are kicking themselves that they didn’t keep him in the Senate, ease him into the Governorship last year, and set him up for a 2016 run…

  • rightwingmom52

    Obama with more experience and more money would have been infinitely worse.

  • toothpick

    Seems pretty contrary to any notion of conservative principles, to consider someone’s gender or skin tone to be an important factor in whether they are the best candidate for any job, let alone one as prominent as VPOTUS. Are you sure you aren’t a troll?

  • lansing

    It might be wasteful in that we don’t need him to put us over the top and we can keep a great Senator, maybe the election is 1980 and the bottom falls out for Obama , but I’d rather go in with overwhelming firepower than lose by a squeaker. If Obama wins it will be by the thinnest of margins.

    The optics of having a Latino as Vice-President really takes the wind out of the Democrat Party pushing the meme that Republicans are racist, and would be an important bridge builder into the Hispanic/Latino community. Whatever use Rubio would have in the Senate I think would be FAR outstripped by having a Latino in such a prominent Republican Administration. Honestly, Rubio’s voting record in the Senate would be nearly identical to another conservative Republican likely nominated by Florida’s Governor Rick Scott.

    I’ve always thought the attempts by Republicans to woo African-Americans (usually by promoting empty suits) has been silly, that voting block is going nowhere. Latinos/Hispanics, however, are very much up for grabs.

  • acat

    Please send my payment through the usual channels.

    Mew

  • ThePoliticalHat

    There is nothing the left hates more then a non-white or woman who dares not think as the left tells them to think. This is why the left will always attack these candidates with hate and fury. They will have a much tougher run at it then white-males by the so-called “diversity”-loving left.

    This is why Rubio, Martinez, &c. need a long list of solid accomplishments as well as plenty of experience dealing with the MSM and the other hate-mongers of the left.

    It is unfair, but it is the reality we have to deal with. I was an early advocate of Palin as Veep back in ’08 because of her accomplishments and her willingness to take on the party bosses. Unfortunately she was not experienced enough to deal with the MSM or have enough accomplishments she could use to sufficiently put truth to the lies of the left.

    There are non-white candidates that would be better suited as Veep choices. Two good examples would be Governor Jindal (LA) and Governor Sandoval (NV). Jindal will be in his second term and has already gone through the MSM ringer, while Sandoval has a long list of accomplishments (e.g. Federal judge, state AG, member of gaming commission — which is a very big deal in NV).

  • lansing

    even if Republicans nominated Herman Cain. I could still easily see it going 90-10 for Obama. The African-American community at large has a much different relationship with the idea of a government taking care of them than other groups, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

    Herman Cain is great, but he really should have run with some elected experience under his belt first. I just can’t take a person with zero elected experience seriously if they’re running for President. Had he been “Senator Cain” I honestly think he would be our likely nominee.

  • ThePoliticalHat

    I’ve always been a fan of Tom McClintock. Though he is only in his second congressional term, he has a long track record in California for fiscal sanity and a bastion of conservatism. He is eloquent and principles — as well as being one of the few constant sane voices in California.

    He would be acceptable to both traditional conservatives as well as the libertarian wing of the party. He’s also mop the floor with Biden (or Obama for that matter).

  • lansing

    Regardless of how much experience they have, the Left will try to destroy them. Had Palin had an additional term as Governor she would have still gotten that level of venom.

    Bobby Jindal is a great Governor, but if we’re looking through a purely crass “vote-getting lens” Indian Americans are a rounding error in terms of voters whereas Latinos are now a deciding factor in elections, and that influence will only increase. Jindal also comes from a state that’s not in contention. How many votes would Jindal really add to the ticket?

    Sandoval would also be an excellent choice, but he’s also only been Governor for only one year. (not a problem for me though) Nevada is a pivotal swing state.

    I don’t think a huge resume is necessary for a VP, a lot of it is symbolism and giving a few extra votes with important swing states. The big problem VP’s tend to get into is when they fashion themselves as attack dogs, and not everyone can be an effective pit bull.

  • ThePoliticalHat

    I completely agree that they will be targeted by the left regardless of the candidates experience, but a candidate with experience dealing with these schmuck and with solid achievements that can be used to truth to the left’s lies will make them better candidates and would be the difference between a candidate whose career will be over and a candidate whose career will have become stronger for it.

  • acat

    1) Against Obama/Biden, Cain’s outsider cred would go a long, long way.

    2) Cain could dismantle either Obama or Biden in the debates without breaking a sweat.

    3) Cain isn’t going to shatter the Black Bloc, but he will do a hell of a lot more to start the conversation on race that our country desperately needs just by being on the ticket than Obama has done in his whole “voting present” life.

    4) 2012 is going to be about the economy – that’s Cain’s wheelhouse.

    5) 2013 thru 2016 are going to be about rolling back entitlements .. and Cain will make a much better “Darth Cheney” analogue than Rubio.

    Think “Content of his character”, not “color of his skin”, eh?

    Mew

  • YnotNOW

    If they are especially prone to attack, why should we play the same game?
    Select on the qualities of the candidate ONLY.

  • tyman

    I, too, think it would be a waste of Rubio to be VP. We need him badly in the Senate, and I’d love for him to take over Sen. Minority / Majority leader from Phineas T. Bluster (aka Mitch McConnell).

    While I’d love to see Herman as VP, I hope he runs for the Senate again in GA.

    I don’t know a whole lot about Martinez, but it really could go a long way toward helping with the Hispanic vote.

    I had even thought about a Perry / Romney ticket a la Reagan / Bush in 1980, but we see where that got us. I still blame GHWB for Bill Clinton, just like I blame W for Obama (for the sake of space and time, I’ll withhold comments for now).

    I think the VP needs to be conservative in case they eventually run for President, but I think he / she needs policy experience, just as GHWB provided that to Reagan. And I think whoever needs to help with Perry’s outsider image by not being a career Washington insider.

    Given those criteria, anybody have a guess?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We finally get some conservatives in the Senate, and we want them to LEAVE?

    I think that’s nuts.

    We need more conservatives who stay there 30, 36, 42 years, making trouble for the left forever.

  • lansing

    The best judge of Herman Cain will be what he does after this primary. If he goes back to something like talk radio, I’ll chalk his whole run as nothing but a publicity stunt to try and make him a household name. If he makes a legitimate run at politics, Senator, Governor, Congressman, etc, afterwards he’ll have my respect and support.

    I absolutely think there are people that “run for President” to try and become a celebrity, not with the goal of actually winning the nomination. (like Newt Gingrich, that doesn’t even have a real campaign in place anymore)

    Cain is sometimes great on his feet, but the deer in the headlight look he gave when he was asked about Palestinian right of return (which is about as basic a question as you can get on the Middle East) tells me this is not a person that has really hit the books and ready for Prime Time.

  • lineholder

    I was THE hardest on Cain over the right to return issue. But I don’t doubt the man’s motives one bit. He genuinely cares about this country. He believes we’re in a lot of trouble, economically and socially. He believes that as an American citizen he has a responsibility to step up and contribute in what we ways he can. If that means that the people of this nation are willing to elect him as their next President, he’ll take that on in heartbeat, no questions asked.

    And in all honesty, he is far more informed about economic issues influencing the private sector of our economy that a lot of other candidates are because he’s spent of his life in that context. They are the ones who often display the “deer in the headlight look” on that subject, not Herman Cain. For most of them, the greater portion of their experience is drawn from the realm of either political science or law.

    Even if he doesn’t get elected as President, I still him as someone who could be extremely valuable to the next administration to bring about the kind of changes that would be of help to encourage growth and development in the private sector, and I hope he gets that chance.

  • lansing

    but again, if after all this he decides to just do talk radio or Cable TV and never run for office or public service, my opinion is that this was all a way to simply increase his exposure to a mass audience that he never would have had otherwise.

    I don’t think running for President is the right way to promote yourself, which is a big reason why I’m incredibly turned off by Palin “teasing” the public with whether she’s going to run or not. I’m fine with the Sean Hannitys and Rush Limbaughs of the world, but what I respect is they don’t pretend to run for office as a PR stunt to make themselves more famous.

  • acat

    Consider the sad case of Duke Cunningham.

    Mew

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It’s not even logically sound.

  • acat

    or do you just deny that Duke was a conservative?

    Mew