Oh the fun we shall have.
There is a trail to Obama here already identified…
I can’t hardly wait.

Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. This White House is full of corruption, but I put Mr. Holder right at the top of the list. Thank you Rep. Smith. Do not let Holder lie his way out of this one. I will be unable to contain my sadistic pleasure if this scumbag gets what’s coming to him.

Why did I just think of Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius?

If it were a Republican administration, well that would be one thing, but the Gotterdamercrats will have their full panoply of flack catchers from media, celebrities, academics, and the internet.

NT

I know I’m not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to understanding motives of evil people, but what are the chances, in your opinion, that something much more sinister than trying to create an environment to go after the second amendment (the only explanation I have heard for reasons to walk the guns into Mexico) is going on here? My imagination easily ties this in with Obama’s cozy relationships with sinister people who would gladly assist Obama in undermining America in any way he can.

In other words, was this an intentional way to arm the cartels to undermine any attempts to stop their incursions into northern Mexico and eventually the U.S.? Could something as rank as financial payoffs be part of the motives? Interested in hearing your take on all of this.

Only Democrats become furious when caught in scandal, not defensive, furious. Especially when guilty, kind of a barometer of guilt. It comes with being psychopaths.
Now the Times is really going to have get to work, lurid stories about unpaid parking tickets, shocking revelations about Issa or Smith being seen sipping a wine in a restaurant, overheard using the word “damn”. Hysteria will reign, the crowds of sub-humans in the demos at Wall St will double, interesting times .

thing exploded, it looks like it just did. Congratulations goes to Lamar Smith and Issa for being tenacious on this one.

Shall we take take bets on whether Holder will “suddenly” resign or will Obama stonewall the investigation and keep Holder on the payroll?

Either way it spells doom for this administration.

Here is how I see this playing out. There are two outcomes and they all depend on Obama’s poll numbers, and the economy. It has almost nothing to do with any investigation at this point.
Case #1: If the economy starts to improve (which it will not…but for point of argument) and Obama’s poll numbers improve, the MSM and Obama’s apologists will do everything in their power to make Fast and Furious go away. I believe that given the situation to date, and the history of events in the past that would have brought down a GOP president…they can still make F & F go away. We will all be racists for thinking that this administration could be so evil, and the mere fact of wanting a special prosecutor is racist…etc. We all know the drill.
Case #2: I believe this outcome is most likely. Obama’s polling and the economy continues on it’s death spiral. This only confirms what the DNC already knows; what happened in 2010 will be a two-year-old’s birthday party compared to 2012 (that would be like a party for a person who just got their PhD or MD….you know, BIG! In Vegas!).
They already know they will loose EVERYTHING in Washington. They know then the investigations will really begin in earnest (Like GE’s and Google’s relationship with the White House, George Soros’s activities, Obmaa’s Czars to name but a few…and yes, this is my wish list).
They know that given a GOP filibuster proof control both houses, a GOP president; that actual constitutional amendments will be coming to thwart them next time they do achieve power. They will not be able to just stop enforcing laws, or creating laws like they have in the past.
I am convinced that around December or January more information about F&F and Solyndra will start to be “leaked” to the press. Furthermore, the MSM will be told in no uncertain terms by the DNC that they are to push the leaks, in effect, to turn on, and torpedo Obama.
This will force force Obama to “reconsider” running for 2012. And it will be so convenient in so many ways. No-one will be labeled a racist, after all “he did this to himself.” Obama will have to look beyond his ego and step aside “of his own choice.” He does after all, get to keep the “billion dollar campaign” fund (though I think he will be far short of a billion dollars). Not a bad parting gift….
Lastly, all the prep work Bill Clinton has been doing on behalf of Hillary will be very timely indeed. In my calculus she is one of the few democrats that can possibly save 2012 for the DNC.
Let’s face it, even the DNC will eat their young when needed. It beats them eating the HUGE crap sandwich that awaits them in November 2012.
I am going to put my aluminum foil hat back on now….

P.S: One Constitutional Amendment in addition to a balanced budget amendment is this; “Any party that does not submit a annual budget, per the Constitution will automatically be considered derelict in it’s duties, and a special election for all of the controlling party’s seats will be enacted within 90 days.” In essence, not preforming constitutional duties by those be elect to preform those duties is a vote of “no-confidence” by the American People.
A guy can dream….can’t he?

Now I am putting my aluminum foil hat back on…

Of course, “F&F” could just be raging incompetence…in which some person(s) should be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

But if F&F was designed to manufacture a pretext for new US gun control legislation and/or regulation, and it just went off the rails, then we have a full-fledged conspiracy on our hands.

If you plan a crime — a bank robbery, say — in which people are killed “unintentionally,” then you’re in just as much trouble as premeditated murder. And you should be. It doesn’t matter that you didn’t plan the deaths in advance — they wouldn’t have occurred had you not commited the crime that you did intend to commit.

It’s essential that every lead in this case be pursued to the end of the trail of evidence.

If this was 1993, this would have never seen the light of day. Even in 1996 when Fox news was created, it would have been hard for a fledgeling news network to have the gravitas, or viewership to make a difference.
When I get down about matters such as this, I reflect on how the “interweb” (according to Al Gore) has really changed things. It has leveled the playing field.
Remember the hit piece Dan Rather did about G.W’s military record? It was shot down in a matter of hours….AND Dan Rather was replaced!
The fact that all but one or two news outlet of the MSM are now covering F&F…it is not going away. It may not be as huge a story as if a GOP president did such a bone-headed stunt, but it will not go away, and it will become eventually Obama’s Watergate.
When the GOP takes over in 2012 and the MSM poops all over themselves, drops to the floor in spastic convulsions over the action of the next administration to solve the problem of this country…only then will they realize the cost to their credibility in supporting Obama for so long. No longer will the majority of people accept the MSM word.
Like Obama, the MSM will be made impotent because of their ideology…and the interweb!

the question isn’t “did he commit perjury?” it is “what did he know, and when did he know it?”

Following that line of questioning eventually leads to perjury being the lesser charge, and “obstruction of congress” becoming the offense for which he, and possibly his boss, is removed.

…and suddenly we aren’t just looking at a GOP White House, but also 60 GOP Senators possibly comes into play.

As I now understand it, if we get a special prosecutor Fast and Furious goes dark. No more titillating headlines, or you-tube clips. I don’t think we want Fast and Furious to go to a special prosecutor. What we want is images on the news everyday of Issa forcing testimony from the DOJ/FBI/ATF/DHS, etc. We want ti in the news everyday.
There is a wonderful piece called “Let it Bleed” from American Thinker, and I think it is worth reading.

(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/10/fast_and_furious_let_it_bleed.html)

Be careful what you wish for, House Republicans, over the metastasizing Operation “Fast and Furious” scandal at the U.S. Department of Justice. You just might get it.

A Special Prosecutor, I mean. That’s exactly what, as we move into the 2012 election year, the GOP shouldn’t want.

From a GOP political perspective, Operation “Fast and Furious” is the kind of thing you pray to Jesus for. A year before a national election, the story breaks that some numb nuts at Main DOJ — the agency formerly known as ATF, to be specific — conceived a novel idea for catching Mexican cartels (and their U.S. firearms suppliers) in illegal gun smuggling. Here’s how: let’s have the U.S. Government give the gun dealers guns so they can be smuggled.

Lots of guns — at least count, at least 2,000 of them.

It worked too. Oh, my, how it worked.

The US government-supplied weapons were duly purchased by the bad guys. They were then duly “walked” into Mexico. You’ll never guess what happened next.

The Mexican gun cartels used the U.S.-provided guns to kill Mexicans. Lots of Mexicans. The complete death toll is still being tallied.

The Mexican government is beside itself. And ATF has a new acting head.

That’s only the beginning. The paper trail for this too-stupid-to-live idea, it’s emerging, leads directly into the top level of DOJ – to Attorney General Eric Holder and the head of the Criminal Division, to be precise.

Wait, I’m not done. It gets better.

The trail of e-mails also leads into the White House. and it appears that testimony by Attorney General Holder before the House Judiciary Committee about when he first knew about Operation “Fast and Furious” can reasonably be viewed as being false. In response to a question, Holder said he first heard of it only recently, when the scandal broke. Documents produced this week in response to Congressional subpoenas suggest otherwise.

Oops.

The Obama White House knows it has a real problem on its hands (another one, I mean, besides all the others). The whole thing’s going viral as we speak.

In Washington-speak: this baby’s got legs.

Yesterday, CBS reporter Sharyl Atkisson told Laura Ingraham on her talk radio program that both the White House and DOJ are yelling (or screaming) at her to sit down and shut up. Apparently, in the Obama White House’s view, Attkisson is being “very unreasonable.”

The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times are all being reasonable, Attkisson said the White House spokesman screamed at her. Why can’t you?

Or, as President Obama recently said to the Congressional Black Caucus: “stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.”

As I say, fun. Couldn’t happen at a better time.

Comes now House Judiciary Committee Lamar Smith (R. Texas) to spoil our fun.

Chairman Smith yesterday called for the appointment of a Special Prosecutor to look into whether General Holder committed perjury before the Judiciary Committee when he denied knowing anything about Operation “Fast and Furious” until quite recently. The AG, Chairman Smith’s press release says solemnly, has an inherent conflict of interest. He cannot, you see, investigate himself.

Well, duh, now.

God bless you, Chairman Smith. Are you still, 37 years on, seeking revenge for Watergate? Are you like what Talleyrand said about the Bourbons: you’ve learned nothing and forgotten nothing?

Losing in a landslide is the ultimate sanction for screwing up in office or fudging facts to Congress. That’s politics — and next year is an election year. We don’t want a Special Prosecutor, operating in secret. We want a media firestorm.

Let it bleed, I say.

You think they lied to your Committee, Mr. Chairman? Fine. Help us throw the bums out. Raise holy hell about this: call it a conspiracy at the highest levels, a culture of corruption, perjury, obstruction of justice.

Talk about a cover-up. The arrogance of power. Say it’s “another Watergate.”

You know what to do – pour it on! Every day, in front on the TV cameras, on the talk shows and on the floor of the House. Deplore, condemn, express shock. Demand answers. Hold more hearings. Subpoenas, depositions.

Leak like crazy.

Not your style? Okay, pretend you’re Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid: look sad and talk about how “concerned” you are.

But, please, sir, shut up about bringing in a Special Prosecutor.

An SP, Mr. Chairman, will give the Obama White House the perfect excuse to bury this thing until after the 2012 election.

Grand jury secrecy, don’t you know. Can’t talk, sorry. “We don’t want to prejudice the special prosecutor’s inquiry,” Presidential Secretary Jay Carney will piously intone from the White House Press Room podium. We want to, but we can’t.

Wink.

“People’s reputations are at risk here,” the President will say. “I can’t possibly comment.”

Wink.

And the story will die away, just when it got legs.

Who the hell wants that?

So, please, Chairman Smith: put a sock in it. I’m sure you’re a good guy. But we don’t need no stinkin’ Special Prosecutor. This is blood sport – and they’re bleeding. We need publicity, lots of publicity, about Operation “Fast and Furious.”

Let it bleed — all over the front pages, PC’s, Blackberries and plasma TV’s of America.

Update: John Hinderaker at Powerline has further thoughts on the role of CBS.

William La Jeunesse has been working this story hard for FoxNews for some time, it was Sharyl Attkisson at CBS who got the scoop. While the DOJ documents were leaked exclusively to CBS News ( which therefore gets credit for breaking the story), I should point out that William La Jeunesse of FoxNews has been dogged in his pursuit of the “Fast and Furious” story as well.

Here’s Michael Walsh’s take at NRO, which adds a few facts (and also credits La Jeunesse).