Are these the first #occupywallstreet -inspired death threats?


Maybe:

Several influential New York state lawmakers have received threatening mails saying it is “time to kill the wealthy” if they don’t renew the state’s tax surcharge on millionaires, according to reports.

[snip]

The email references terminology that has been used in the “Occupy Wall Street” movement — that the1 percent, the super rich, are exploiting the remaining 99 percent of Americans. The angry message demanded that Albany politicians “stop shoveling wealth from the lower 99 percent into the top 1 percent” and “set aside your ‘no new taxes on anybody’ pledge.”

By ‘maybe,’ of course, I mean ‘Of course they are, unless it’s a hoax.’ Which possibility you’re expected to always have to take into account, in these cases… at least, if you’re expected to if you’re a conservative or a Republican. If somebody sent a death threat that referenced Tea Party rhetoric the media and other Democrats would fall all over themselves in their haste to be the first one to call for scalps.

In a metaphorical and nonviolent way, of course.

(Via Hot Air Headlines)

Moe Lane (crosspost)


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"Hard to say"

Return to Revolution (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 7:57PM EDT (link)

a little off topic but this clip of CNN trying to decipher their objective is priceless. I guess it can also apply to the metaphorical value of said death threats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du3gN9adNwg

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 

not good with html

Return to Revolution (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 8:00PM EDT (link)

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

bring out the water cannons!

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 10:28PM EDT (link)

and I mean just to lessen the odor

Molon Labe!

I was thinking that also.

gekster (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 10:36PM EDT (link)

After I heard that alot of them have not bathed in the last couple of days.
Throw in some Dove dish soap.
Won’t irritate the eyes and is soft on the skin.
And won’t give you dish pan body.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

lol -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 10:50PM EDT (link)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 
 

Ok, time's up

DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 8:16PM EDT (link)

If these parasitic, moochers want NY to confiscate 100% of the income of NY’s rich I say let them. It’s way past time for the states to reassertion their Constitutional supremacy. We need a critical mass of GOP governors to start ignoring the federal government…NOW! If enough would tell the Feds to go pound and there isn’t anything Obama and his hippie sycophants in OWS could do about it. We should be able to look to our state governments to protect us from DC as was the case pre-Civil War.

No, I’m not advocating violence. I’m advocating restoring state authority and autonomy so all citizens can live as they best see fit. If the socialists want to live in high tax, welfare dependent states I say let them. Just prohibit those of us in Red states from having to support them or abide by their state’s laws.

Everyday I grow more and more fearful of being dragged kicking and screaming into full blown socialism. No one in power seems to be fighting, I mean really fighting, against this insanity.

Over on Drudge is a story about how Sebelius and HHS are busy defining our insurance coverage for us. Where the He!! is my freedom to choose? Where in the Constitution is the authority to do this? I’ve had it, I want my state to declare its independence from federal tyranny.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

That's a good idea, but....

gekster (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 8:35PM EDT (link)

they all will think the sky is falling when they don’t
get thier share of federal money.
Remember when the feds said you had to have a .08 alcohol limit or you won’t get federal highway funds.
Folded quicker than a cheap suit.
It is the tie that binds.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

Yes, but there's a way out

DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 8:54PM EDT (link)

Yes, I remember the 55 MPH speed limit and how federal funds were withheld from states that didn’t comply. It’s unconscionable that the Feds bribe and threaten states with the money of the states’ own citizens.

The way out: The Federal Funds Act

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/01/18/resistdc-the-federal-tax-funds-act/

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

Thanks for the link. Thats very good.

gekster (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:02PM EDT (link)

Now if one of the candidates for President would back that,
I would openly support them, even Mittens.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

Hahaha

DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:08PM EDT (link)

How many in the GOP would support revolving power back to the states? No, the states will have to take it back.
I don’t see an easy way out of this situation. We are a nation irreconcilably divided with socialists on one side and us on the other. There is no common ground. None. I believe federalism is our only salvation. The alternative is a literal break up.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

Dang it

DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:10PM EDT (link)

I meant “devolving” and even supposed conservatives get drunk with federal power and will find excuses to keep as much of it as possible. Turn to the states.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

I can understand what you say.

gekster (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:17PM EDT (link)

But I think Perry saying that “I want to make the federal goverment as inconsequential as possible” is as close as we can come in a candidate.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

I forgot to correct you

DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:21PM EDT (link)

The legislation is state level, not federal so Mittens doesn’t have to support it.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

noted. nt

gekster (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 9:25PM EDT (link)

…..

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 

Newt!

dajeeps (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 7:18AM EDT (link)

He keeps talking about implementing the 10th amendment. It might just be lip service, but worth looking into the details.

…”I would quarrel with both parties and with every individual of each, before I would subjugate my understanding, or prostitute my tongue or pen to either.”
–John Adams

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

The problem

hunter (Diary) Thursday, October 6th at 8:57PM EDT (link)

is these guys and our President are on the same side of the issues.
This is a first in our history.
We have a President so immature and out of the mainstream that he seems to identify with lawless mobs, and frankly his policies only enable them.

hunter

 

Should we be smelling the char

blooch Thursday, October 6th at 9:09PM EDT (link)

from the Microwave Death Camps by now? Or the putrid steam, or whatever emanates from those places? What a colossal waste of stimulus money if they’re not online yet.

Maybe that’s why Barry’s so agitated about his jobulus.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

 

Need to get rid of the ultra-progressive tax code already

dajeeps (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 7:25AM EDT (link)

Every one needs to pay something so they have a vested interest in what goes on, even if it’s only a few dollars. I would go for the flat tax over the fair tax for the simple reason that the 16th amendment exists, and I don’t want any new taxes.

But this thing we have now is highly divisive, counterproductive, and possibly deadly with hard times upon us. In some ways, it feels like our societal cohesion is being ripped apart, and that is just a terrible omen for the future of our once great nation.

…”I would quarrel with both parties and with every individual of each, before I would subjugate my understanding, or prostitute my tongue or pen to either.”
–John Adams

Forgot to mention the fallacy of taxing the 'rich'

dajeeps (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 7:51AM EDT (link)

The rich are smart enough to NOT hold a cash balance, except to meet their immediate needs and they buy assets with whatever they get in excess. By levying a higher tax burden on them, it shrinks the pie of possible economic activity generated by that need to convert cash to something that can’t be inflated away.

In addition to that, and the real fallacy of the argument, is that most of these people are not wage earners and the additional tax burden is highly transferable. It ends up like any other increase in overhead and is reflected in all sorts of ways from increased prices for the things we buy, lower wages, less opportunities available in the economy as whole, &c. All that occurs, in large part, when government tries to redistribute the wealth through the income tax is redistribution of the tax burden. Everyone pays for it in one way or another, even the poor. There is just no way to target any single group, besides wage earners, with specific taxes and have it not end up being extracted from everyone else.

…”I would quarrel with both parties and with every individual of each, before I would subjugate my understanding, or prostitute my tongue or pen to either.”
–John Adams

 
 

The takers want to take more

mine Friday, October 7th at 7:34AM EDT (link)

What could Wall St possibly have taken from these.protestors? Nothing. They have nothing. These radicals are takers. They are just greedy people who want to take more of what isn’t theirs.

For people who have lost money and want to see those responsible in jail; I could support that. But then I’m not thinking Wall St, I’m thinking Pres Obama and his cronies losing taxpayer money on bailing out their buddies in crazy schemes.

Obama, if losing other peoples money is a crime, you should be first on the bus to the jailhouse. What you have done with other peoples money is malfeasance and you must be held responsible.

 

The reality of Generation Y?

damnchucker Friday, October 7th at 9:17AM EDT (link)

As a child and young man I did not always make great decisions. Over time, however, I learned the value of participating in the “common” reality. I am paying my dues and working hard, very hard and I anticipate this is how it will be for the remainder of my life – at least if I wish to maintain an acceptable standard of living.

I am a chef, pastry chef specifically and I worked for years to get to where I am at now. My current job and position pay above the national average, but I am no where near being rich or well off. My wife and I scrimp and save and do without to provide for our family. We recently relocated to a rural suburb, because of the continual degradation of in-town suburbs.

What I find is shocking is that most of the junior members of my professional are not just out of touch with reality, but are participating in a completely separate reality. Their belief is that since everything has been given to them without effort, that everything will continue to come without effort. This has created an unstable realization of the world around them. They graduate from a culinary institution to a $40,000 or $80,000 debt and have no idea of how long it will take to repay that when you are making $12 an hour to start. The pain of the realization that they have to struggle to just pay rent and put gas in a car and cover the school note is overwhelming for most. In 20 years in this business I have known but a few who do not default on paying that debt.

So they enter this profession with little or no ability. Most do not work or apprentice while they are in school and receive only a cursory 16 week externship. They enter the work force shocked and surprised to learn that they will not have a TV show or line of cutlery and that most of the people they will begin their career with are felons, outsiders or just plain lost. Further they realize that their institution has manufactured an idea of elevated culinary excellence only to realize that this is withheld for only a select few. Quickly they become disgruntled, defeated and incapable of accepting the true reality around them. It becomes easier and easier to blame others than to blame themselves for their own lack of judgement, awareness or participation in the “common” reality. It is always painful to watch and to attempt to guide these individuals.

This is a job that in order to succeed you must be willing to commit to not just 60 hour work weeks, but at times 80 and 100 hour weeks. This is not to say it’s all bad. I have the best job in the world. It comprises everything that delivers value to a profession. In order to be successful you must be thoughtful, conscientious, creative and diligent. There is always another level to strive for and there is always the opportunity to pour just a little more passion into your work. The harsh “common” reality is, however, that most of the children entering this profession have little compulsion or desire to participate.

I find it troubling that we have a bunch of spoiled, truly spoiled, angry, selfish children lashing out in a tantrum at anyone and everyone that they perceive as holding them back from their own “reality.” They want their modern loft apartment stocked with alcohol, video games, high speed internet and “medicinals” so that they can get back to “elevating” the American Standard and creating a new American Dream.. If they wanted to work there are plenty of chef jobs available in NYC right now – pull up Craigslist, there were 400+ listings for Thursday alone.

These children need to grow up. Their parents need to cut the cord and push them out the door before they destroy us all. A 4 year old breaks things just to make a point. A 24 year old can break more than things. The anger and petulance towards the “common” reality is disturbing.