I’ll be on NRA News tonight regarding Operation Fast & Furious.


You should be able to listen in via here: the program is Cam & Co., which starts at 9 PM EST and goes on until midnight. I should be on some time after 10 PM.

Meanwhile: Attorney General Eric Holder is very upset:

In his most forceful criticism of Republicans during his time as attorney general, Holder said that he had said little so far about the gun-smuggling probe because the Justice Department inspector general is investigating it but that he could not sit idly by while a Republican congressman suggested that law enforcement and government employees be considered accessories to murder.

Actually, ‘sitting idly by’ would be a bit of an improvement there, Mister Attorney General. For that matter, ‘sitting idly by’ is more or less the basic defense that Holder is trying to make in the first place: to wit, that the Attorney General had not lied when he falsely claimed that he was unaware of Operation Fast & Furious* before April of 2011 or so. Apparently, Holder had somehow missed the import of multiple memos from July 2010 that spelled out that the operation involved straw purchasers who were “responsible for the purchase of 1500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels;” it’s an interesting thing to see a Cabinet official attempt to make the argument that he’s too intellectually incurious to be guilty of perjury, but I guess that you have to play the hand that you’re dealt.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Short version: we allowed guns to be sold to Mexican narco-terrorist groups. We lost track of the guns. The guns ended up being used to shoot a lot of Mexican nationals – much to the fury of the Mexican government, who was as much out of the loop as anybody else.


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So......

baracksolyndraobama Friday, October 7th at 7:21PM EDT (link)

…maybe you can ask them if they will lean on their buddy, Sen. Harry Reid, to get him to support a F&F idependent counsel? Strange bedfellows, indeed!

 

Don't forget 2009

crawfishsclaw Friday, October 7th at 7:46PM EDT (link)

Holder gave a speech IN MEXICO in 2009 in which he talked about Gunrunner.
http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090402.html

Not quite the same thing.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 9:26PM EDT (link)

Project Gunrunner, as I understand it, was a general operation that did not let guns walk and did keep foreign law enforcement agencies in the loop – two of F&F’s most egregious violations of policy.

 
 

Holder and his cohort Obama need to be indicted.

Tbone (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 8:08PM EDT (link)

Of course the Republicans will never take it that far because, well, you tell me.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

More than that, they need to be imprisioned.

snowshooze (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 8:33PM EDT (link)

But as Minister of War pointed out, if this was done, Biden would step in and hand out pardons around the house.

 
 

I suppose it would be kinda out of line to criticise NRA

snowshooze (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 8:29PM EDT (link)

At this particular juncture for suporting Harry Reid, their continuous emergency donation drive, their big shiny building, their deaf ear to members in need of professional services..
( Life member here )
As it is by their generosity that you will be on the air.
Consider those remarks constructive criticism.
I know they do a lot for us, but they fall entirely short on some things, go the wrong way at times… what was that sweetheart deal that was going to except the NRA but gut everyone else a while back? They were all for their positioning at the expense of others..
Is short, they have become a private bureaucracy with a healthy self interest. Might check the parking lot for BMW/Mercedes/Lexxus content…
Yes, it would not do well to accept their graciousness and proceed to denigrate them. I suppose I wouldn’t do it myself.
By the way…
Congratulations!
Keep up the good work!
Mark Richardson

While NRA does a lot of great work,...

baracksolyndraobama Friday, October 7th at 9:36PM EDT (link)

…LaPierre and his young gun have an Abramoff quality to them.

 

Well, I'm talking on their news program...

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 9:39PM EDT (link)

…not giving an analysis of fallout from their recent political activity to their executive board. :) Honestly, I may not have enough time to do more than give an overview of the F & F situation.

 

You're right.

Tbone (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 9:42PM EDT (link)

You’re out of line.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Right on cue...nt.

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 10:00PM EDT (link)

no – - – text

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

 

Ya, I knew it.

snowshooze (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 10:46PM EDT (link)

Can’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

 
 
 

I read the letter Holder sent to the Congressmen

westcoastpatriette (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 9:59PM EDT (link)

conducting the investigation and it had Obama’s sniveling fingerprints all over it.

His defense of himself included everything from blaming Congress for failing to provide him with the resources he needs to combat illegal gun trafficking to whining that the previous administration conducted similar operations to not having the ability to read all of his internal memos and reports–none of which alerted him to the egregious conduct taking place in the Fast and Furious operation.

He seems to be emulating Obama’s inability to tell the truth or accept responsibility as the head of the department. I hope they go after him until all of his lies and denials are exposed and he is prosecuted for the murders that occurred on his watch.

Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3

kowalski

westcoastpatriette (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 10:42PM EDT (link)

I just listened to your interview on Cam & Co.–good job, Moe.

Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3

 

I agree, and what happened under Bush doesn't compare

kestrel (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 11:06PM EDT (link)

See “Gunwalker: Gunning Down the ‘Bush Did It, Too’ Lie”

In short, Bush’s operation “Wide Receiver” used electronic devices and aircraft to track the guns. Because the tracking ended up not working, the operation was “shut down within a year after 450 weapons went missing.” By contrast, “Fast and Furious purposefully ran at least 2,020 weapons to the Sinaloa cartel without any intention of arresting the straw purchasers and smugglers.” And it probably would it have continued indefinitely if Brian Terry hadn’t been killed.

This “blame Bush for gunwalker” meme originated from an anonymous source. Let’s see how many other MSM reporters will join the Associated Press’s Pete Yost in repeating it without checking it out. By mid-2013, I figure the MSM will all be defunct.

Right on, kestrel

westcoastpatriette (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 11:53PM EDT (link)

This administration is filled with the most conniving, lying crooks. It’s enough to make your skin crawl.

Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3

 
 
 

The question is, "Why?"

keysconservative Friday, October 7th at 10:07PM EDT (link)

Why would the Administration willingly and knowingly allow thousands of weapons fall into the hands of 3 notorious drug cartels in Mexico?
I believe I have an answer.
Immigration. Not as an end, but as a means to an end: Power. Or, more specifically, power for the Democrat Party.
I believe these guns were meant to further destabilize Mexico through increased violence and perhaps facilitate a civil war between the cartels and the Mexican government. If successful, thousands, if not tens of thousands of ‘refugees’ would flee to the United States for safety. In response to this ‘human crisis’ the Dems in Washington would grant residency status to the ‘displaced’ (much like Carter did for those in the Mariel boat lift). Since returning to Mexico would be impossible for the millions already here, they would be granted emergency residency status as well. From there, it’s only a short step to citizenship and the right to vote.

Remember, this insane program of letting guns ‘walk’ to Mexico would still be going on under the radar if not for the murder of a border patrol agent. How many more guns would have made their way into the hands of the drug cartels if this scandal had not come to light? How many more Mexicans would have died as a result?

Am I being paranoid? Am I thinking like a conspiracy nut? Perhaps. But the question remains, “Why?”
I still haven’t heard a better (or more believable) explanation.

Nah, it's simpler than that...

weyland Friday, October 7th at 11:21PM EDT (link)

…the guns are for fighting the vampires. I suggest you watch the documentary “From Dusk ‘Til Dawn” — that’ll give you an overview of the issues faced down in Mexico, and the need for more guns.

I have been banned from RedState as tarnover and aardpig and I’m not very bright.

 
 

IBD editorial: Indict Holder

kestrel (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 10:10PM EDT (link)

Investor’s Business Daily points out that numerous people have been indicted for far less than what Holder has said and done.

As for Holder’s incessant “I didn’t know” pleas, I’m sure one of the talk radio hosts will compile a montage that can be used to induce vomiting in a medical emergency. “It is perhaps the first time incompetence has been offered as a defense to possible charges of criminality.” – IBD
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=587002&p=2

Buck-passing and questionable professional conduct are habitual for Holder, going back at least ten years. (See McCarthy at NRO). Those Republican senators who are still in office and voted for Holder’s confirmation… well, at least they are now fighting against other bad nominations.

 

Good job, Moe...

rbdwiggins (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 10:48PM EDT (link)

Parsing words while still getting the point across is a difficult endeavor.

You handled it well.

Malfeasance was a good choice of words.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

Thanks.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 11:00PM EDT (link)

I always worry that I’m overcompensating for my stammer when I do one of these.

Appreciate everybody who listened in; I was going to try to get in something about how you should talk to your Senator about an investigation if I could, but I never got the chance to. Peril of a limited time window. :(

 
 

I meant to listen

kestrel (Diary) Friday, October 7th at 11:21PM EDT (link)

Thought I missed it, took off the headphones, and then really did miss it. :( “Malfeasance” sounds so right that I’m going to go look it up and enjoy the precision. :)

 

They didn't "lose track of the guns"

Adjoran (Diary) Saturday, October 8th at 3:07AM EDT (link)

They never tracked them in the first place.

Holder also pretty obviously lied his butt off to Congress about the Marc Rich pardon-for-cash on Clinton’s last days. This time I think he has suddenly realized he might not skate away, and is running scared.

If there were any justice he would die in prison in the cell next to Barney Frank.

 

Holder did not lie about F&F

talgus Saturday, October 8th at 12:11PM EDT (link)

being a troubled program. Because it was doing EXACTLY what he and Barry wanted it to do.

 

I'm actually willing to believe Holder "personally" didn't hear about them

The_Gadfly (Diary) Sunday, October 9th at 5:44AM EDT (link)

until the time he notified Congress. I work in a government office nowhere near an actual Secretary of ____, and even at that level there is a so much done in the name of the head of the department that a fair chunk of what is done under his authority is done by subordinates. So I image at Holders level there’s a whole lot that get authorized with the autopen.

But here’s the problem. Because I work in IT, I’m occasionally a fly on the wall in meetings where they are prepping someone for a press interview or testifying to Congress. And even when it is a low level flunky testifying about relatively minor details to a sub, sub, sub committee, there are at least six people briefing the person about questions which are likely to come up and what the detailed answers to the questions are. Given the timing of Holder’s hearing, there is no way he would not have been aware of those memos unless someone was trying to generate plausible deniability. In which case, it isn’t just perjury, it’s a full-fledged Watergate style cover up.