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#OWS just letting *anybody* talk these days. If they’re Commies.

This video (via the PJ Tatler, to pick somebody for the honor) from the Occupy LA… whatever it is… has been making the rounds:

For those without video access: it shows a Commie* haranguing the crowd about how socialism is great, and how nonviolent revolutions pale in comparison to the bloody ones. I am almost impressed, to be truthful; even among the American Left it takes skill to find a crowd that will enthusiastically applaud somebody trash-talking Gandhi, but this guy apparently managed the trick. Truly, we live in an age of marvels.

The netroots, of course, absolutely hate it when we point out these people (almost as much as they hate it when we point out the people defecating on police cars); but what they should hate more is the conditions that allow us to point out these people in the first place. Let me explain what I’m getting at, here: imagine, for a moment, that a suitable analogue to Mr. Communist from the video – say, a member of Stormfront – showed up at a Tea Party event. No, this is not going to be a rant about how the media would never let us forget it; this is a more subtle rant. Anyway… Mr. Stormfront would not be given a podium. If Mr. Stormfront was too public about his more undesirable opinions, Mr. Stormfront wouldn’t be at the event for very long, either: nothing violent, but self-policing is one of the hallmarks of a Tea Party event. Both physical and, well, spiritual**.

And that’s the structural problem that the Occupy Whatever people have right there: it’s not so much that they allow filthy Communist agitators to talk at their events as it is that they have no real way to keep the filthy Communist agitators away from the microphones. In fact, many of the Occupy Whatever will refuse to admit that it’s a problem that filthy Communist agitators can get at the mikes; either because they agree with the filthy Communist agitators, or because they’ve deluded themselves that ‘this is what democracy looks like’ (when, in fact, this is actually what the Mob looks like).

Reason’s Tim Cavanaugh expands this point a bit more, in regard to Occupy Atlanta’s seemingly-inexplicable decision to not let civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis talk at their huddling place, despite the fact that if you went to each individual at said huddling place and privately asked his or her opinion the vast majority would have been OK with it:

One important characteristic of mob rule is that it tends to get the outcomes the ruler wants, not the outcomes the mob wants. In this case, the group clearly voted to let Lewis talk, even if that meant risking a slight breach of the day’s agenda. But the point here was not to get a voting result but hive-mind unanimity. Of course unanimity can’t exist among human beings, so the real purpose of the exercise is to keep checking the crowd’s “temperature” until you get the result you want. And what apparatchiks want, always and everywhere, is to put process above product.

What it all boils down to is that while it’s still pretty much an open question whether the Occupy Whatever movement has been taken over by the Hard Left or the Establishment Left, one thing is pretty clear: it hasn’t been taken over by the American people. If it had been, it’d be a good deal more well-organized.

And hygienic, frankly.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*I feel that the combination of praising socialism and advocating violent revolution by the working class is, as they say, diagnostic.

**At this point the Left starts pounding the table and shouting about Larouche Democrats and their habit of putting a Hitler mustache on Obama. Mostly so that you won’t hear the part about “Larouche Democrats.”

COMMENTS

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    I saw and posted this elsewhere this morning.

    Can you imagine the media outrage if a TEA PARTY MEMBER SAID THIS?

    The media would be asking Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and every presidential candidate to distance themselves from the statement.

    Oh well, the double standard lives…no surprise.

  • tngal

    He knew there was an occupation on the horizon.

  • funwithknives

    but for myself, a GREAT BIG THANK YOU is in order.
    Since it’s obvious that M M will not do it’s historically stated duty, it’s up to people like yourself to ferret this crud out and bring some light to the fore. WHO SAYS America is not Exceptional?
    GOOD ON YA,MATE!

  • jaykali

    Liberals & socialists want to believe that wealth is a big pie and it’s their job to spread it around by playing Robin Hood.

    Is Microsoft of Apple stealing my money? I don’t think so. Government is the only entity that forcibly takes my money.

    OK maybe that’s not a good example, how about energy companies like Oil and Gas, after all they take our collective resources from the ground. Well they have to spend all the money/risk on permits and technology and all that – I guess if you want to complain ab more or less regulation of those industries fine. That is on ongoing debate, but I don’t think a gas company is inherently evil just bc it is a private industry.

    Let’s move on to another punching bag, insurance companies. They are evil bc they deny claims. So does the government. To me if the issue is insurance companies illegally denying claims then maybe we need to have some more regulation on that, I don’t know. If companies are ripping people off then they deserve to be criticized. But I don’t think just bc they exist they’re evil or that gov’t would be any better steward.

    Moving onto banks – are they out of control? Let’s bring back Glass-Stegall. Something we can all agree on! But that’s not good enough, they need to nationalized. The solution to EVERYTHING is of course, nationalization. If Banks, and health care and energy was all nationalized we’d all just be in great shape.

    That’s the issue I have with these idiots. At least when these entities are privatized they are accountable to customers and govt. If govt takes over everything, who exactly is accountable?

    Who was accountable for the banking crisis? Just Bush I guess. Health Care? Right now it’s Kathleen Sebelius. Who’s in charge of giving out bad energy loans? Right now, according to congressional testimony – nobody?

    I think people should be careful what they wish for, it all goes back to who do you trust. Do you trust big government to be accountable or private industry? That really determines which side you land on.

  • johnt

    The left is all for power and force, but I doubt if many would fight for it. Rather they would have someone or something else do their dirty work. Rabid as this guy is I doubt he holds the sentiment alone, and in quarters perhaps more numerous than we imagine.

  • http://wingright.org bnuckols

    One that speakers demanding violent revolution in the United States clean up their accents and work on their English as a second language and two, that they remember how Rousseau died.

    In a Tea Party vs. OccupyAnything fight, we won’t be using guillotines or pitchforks. Sir.

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    …welcome you to their little party.

    I just hope the maladies OWS’ers spread to one another don’t impact the rest of the population. Their ‘movement’ surely won’t.

  • http://ridersonthestorm101.blogspot.com/ SE-779

    In regards to the Occupy Wall Street Protesters. I don?t believe them to be generic misfits organizing for a cause, I believe these creeps are capable of great violence. I fear for anyone who has the courage to publicly mock or otherwise speak out against these people, as the OWS?ers may well mark targets on their backs and before you know it, bang, bang, boom, boom, mass murders and civil unrest here we go. These ain?t modern hippies, as the hippies of yesteryear actually believed in peace and love. No, no, these are some of the greatest threats to our republic today. I hope the National Guard is dispatched if things get too rowdy. Peace.

  • 1stRichard

    No surprise, it is the University of Massachusetts, ?systemic change to socialism.?

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/10/umass_students_rallied_on_step.html

    ?We need to change the system,? said assistant professor Deepankar Basu ?if we want to get rid of the problem.? He said capitalism ?creates inequalities? it leads to imperialism and war.?

    ?Capitalism has had its days and it?s failing to meet the needs of the majority,?

    Sad part is the ?echo chamber? of so called conservatives has no clue as to the war were are facing and likely will not change until it is too late, history has a nasty habit of repeating its self.