This weekend in #OWS.


Let’s see who got arrested and/or committed a variety of illegal activities, shall we?

Now, at this point some people are thinking: …And, Moe? This is not exactly unexpected, yes? People get arrested at protests all the time. And most of this is picayune stuff: it’s not like we’re talking about Sydney and/or Melbourne, where the cops went in and broke up the protests. Which is true: none of this is particularly unexpected… for left-wing protests. Which is not even remotely the same – and is increasingly more widely perceived as not being the same – as successful protests.

Contemplate this passage from Rich Lowries 2010 article “The Revolt of the Bourgeois:”

The much-analyzed speeches at the Glenn Beck Lincoln Memorial rally weren’t as notable as what the estimated 300,000 attendees did: follow instructions, listen quietly to hours of speeches, and throw out their trash.

Just as stunning as the tableaux of the massive throngs lining the reflecting pool were the images of the spotless grounds afterward. If someone had told attendees they were expected to mow the grass before they left, surely some of them would have hitched flatbed trailers to their vehicles for the trip to Washington and gladly brought mowers along with them.

This was the revolt of the bourgeois, of the responsible, of the orderly, of people profoundly at peace with the traditional mores of American society.

It was also the revolt of the people who in 2009-2010 netted 63 seats in the House of Representatives, 7 in the Senate, 8 governorships, and 19 state legislatures. And they did it in part by taking a good, long look at left-wing protests, isolated out all the things that they hated about left-wing protests, and then proceeded to generally not do them. That meant no drum circles, no ignoring of basic hygiene, no annoying and usually illegal overnight camping on public property, no confrontations with the cops, no deliberate violations of the laws, no throwing things at authority figures, no excreting on police cars, and a general avoidance of what we in the medieval re-creationist scene used to (impolitely) called ‘freaking out the mundanes.’

That left the Tea Party with… showing up, stating grievances in a loud but peaceful fashion, taking a look around to reinforce the realization that there were other people who agreed with them, giving a polite but firm reminder that the Tea Party would be also able to find the polling stations at the next election, policing the site for garbage, and leaving*. All of which works – it’s just not always all that much fun. And the Activist Left finds all of the behaviors listed above as fun, at least in the short run. So they’re going to persist in doing them: and then they’re going to wonder why this movement – like every other left-wing street movement in American history – never goes anywhere.

Actually, that last part’s unlikely: they Left will probably just blame it all on the Jews. Excuse me: “international bankers.”

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*OK, OK: and Revolutionary War-era costumes, for those who had them. Hey, every movement is allowed a little whimsey.


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As previously reported by Gamecock: Rule of law suspended by mayor in Occupied Atlanta

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 2:18PM EDT (link)

http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2011/10/21/2282/

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

This is the Democrats own "Tea Party"?

johnt Sunday, October 23rd at 2:43PM EDT (link)

So even when it comes to dirt and disorder the Democrats/Media have no standards, this movement is their adopted baby. They hate an orderly, true grass roots movement, look at thousands of people quitely demonstarting and see only racism and hate,[ in every one of them!], and then support mobs taking over public places for weeks, between or during public defecations. Birds of a feather.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

Never mind the global sentiment

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 2:55PM EDT (link)

lets myopically concentrate on the “illegal camping” headlines.

Anyone that protests to raise attention to the financial institutions “Capitalism on the way up, Socialism on the way down” mentality is o.;k. in my book.

Sure its easy to dismiss these folks.

But thinking this cant happen again, or how to prevent such a thing happening again should be the topic…..

EE and crew misses the Forrest for the trees again………..

It's easy to dimiss "these folks" because they are filthy scumbags, Marxists, perverts,

Tbone (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 3:13PM EDT (link)

lazy bums, fools, racists, spoiled brats, limousine liberals, thieves, liars, idiots, union thugs and lackies and college professors.

In short, a rainbow collection of core Democrat Party constituents.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

And then, so what?

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 3:21PM EDT (link)

O.K., so what if they are.

The Tea Party crowd were no Rocket Scientist, slim and trim, full toothed group either….

But thats not the point.

And ignoring the message only ensures you suffer the same fate again.

Tea Party pushed for fiscal discipline.
These folks push to stop coddling business.

Who cares about the protesters, listen to the message for one moment.

And the message was one of Marxist orthodoxy, had you bothered to pay attention.

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 3:33PM EDT (link)

And, with respect to “problems” they cite, the vast majority were CAUSED by government over-regulation and overreach. Specifically, the housing and banking problems can be laid squarely at the feet of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and their tinkering with lending in the 80s and 90s.

Heed your own advice: “listen to the message for one moment.”

Change

 

The OWS gang of malcontents and lawbreakers has no message.

uncmike Sunday, October 23rd at 3:33PM EDT (link)

I see no reason to pay any attention to the smelly assemblages of grievance mongers who want everything from a free living (and a good one at that) to the end of the capitalist system. In truth, most are too stupid to even contemplate the consequences of what they think they want. They are nothing more than useful idiots whose stupidity allows them to be easily manipulated by labor union thugs and the Democrat party which are joined at the hip. As Moe indicates, laws only apply to conservatives. They left can do as they please, including breaking whatever laws suit them and trampling on the rights of others, and all without consequence.

Meanwhile......

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 3:42PM EDT (link)

The top Republican candidates openly support the bailouts and say they would do it again…..

I guess as long as the opposition is saying “stop the bailouts” you are now all for them…..

I understand the political hypocrisy in that, but it does nothing to save up from getting screwed again.

I for one refuse to compromise my principles just cause some smelly people now agree with me and my own party has turned their back on the issue.

But feel free to do whatever you want, its still a free country……..

Tea Parties have primaried pro-bailout Republicans

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:13PM EDT (link)

The Republican Presidential candidates who are perceived to be most in thrall to the pro-bailout wing of the party are doing very poorly in the polls.

Meanwhile, OWSers can barely summon the courage to offer a weak criticism of their pro-bailout, pro-cronyism President — or of their party, which voted in larger percentages for TARP, bailouts and the corporate giveaway that was ObamaCare than the Republican party.

The Republican party sucks. I don’t think anyone here would deny that. However, that’s no reason to cast our lot with the OWSers, who are by no means on our side.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

Concerning your comment

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 4:36PM EDT (link)

“However, that’s no reason to cast our lot with the OWSers, who are by no means on our side.”

There is if we agree on the issues…….

Cain, #1 and Romney, #2 are openly pro bailout last I looked.

Not sure about Perry but he got his head so far up business back side I’m sure he would side with them in the end (he already sold his state out to supply business with and endless illegal workforce).

You know the party is in trouble when (like last time) Ron Paul is the closest thing to Reagan in the bunch.

EE and staff are doing us no favors by wasting our time with this National Enquirer misdirection!

govreaganfan, are you a Ron Paul supporter?

lineholder (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:38PM EDT (link)

Just curious, because this comments make it sound like you are.

If I have to be I will...

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 5:08PM EDT (link)

Ron Paul is way off the mark on a lot of issues but he does take correct stances on those issues most critical to our actual future existence.

For example, while social issues are all well and fine, what good is the fight if America ceases to exist?

Protect your house from a fire before spending all your money on new drapes…..

 

If Ron Paul wasn't such a idiot on foreign policy,

Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 7:21PM EDT (link)

I’d consider him.

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

 
 

Sure.

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:46PM EDT (link)

I’m no fan of Romney, and I’ve cooled on Cain. So… what do you think we should be doing? Last I checked, there have been many front-page articles openly critical of both Romney and Cain.

Regarding OWS — it was not Erick Erickson or RedState which broke the story or continued to follow it with breathless anticipation — that is all on members of the media, who have provided uncritical and fawning coverage ever since the first of the dirty hippies showed up. Providing a comparison between the Tea Parties and the OWSers is in our interest, as it 1) serves to push back against media attempts to marginalize Tea Parties and hail OWS as being truly representative, and 2) allows for us to recruit marginal OWSers who are confused and would fit into the Tea Parties better.

Given that Tea Parties have concentrated more on successfully primarying Republicans than on simply running against democrats, wouldn’t you agree that boosting the Tea Parties is a worthy goal?

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

If you do not like the message of the site,

PowerToThePeople (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:47PM EDT (link)

feel free to leave anytime.

And to respond to your claims about OWS, you so called claims they are for ending bailouts for business, hogwash. While that may have been a single claim they started out with, it was never their primary goal or message.

There is nothing to side with them about. They are the perfect example of losers if there has ever been one. The only thing we need to do with them is load planes full of gas, dump said gas over designated areas, and have people throwing lit matches into said area. Doing so would benefit this country in so many ways.

 

It is about more than just TARP

Kyle-MI (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 6:28PM EDT (link)

Which party opposed the Kelo decision?
Which party has pushed again earmarks?
Which party opposed the auto bailouts?
Which party opposed the bloated, ineffective stimulus?

There is some disagreement between people of good faith about the bank bailouts. They certainly weren’t pretty. It was an ugly solution at the time of a potential emergency.

However, if you look at the whole, the GOP is the party of fiscal responsibility. Certainly, conservatives and their Tea party allies are more fiscally responsible than the GOP as a whole, greatly more responsible than the Democrats, and even more responsible than the occupy movement.

 

Governor Perry asked for...something

renl57 Sunday, October 23rd at 7:02PM EDT (link)

In 2008 as the economic crisis hit the fan, Perry co-authored a letter with Joe Manchin (now Dem senator from WV), asking Congress to pass what they called an “economic recovery package”. They said that was needed to prevent an economic collapse.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62442856/Rick-Perry-s-TARP-Letter

They didn’t think ahead enough to recommend specifics though.

renl, you're nitpicking

retire05 Sunday, October 23rd at 7:28PM EDT (link)

Since when did it become the responsibility of governors to recommend actions by the U.S. House and Senate? Isn’t that why we elect Congressmen and Senators to make those federal decisions?

retire05

renl is hoping

Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 7:41PM EDT (link)

that he can throw anything out with the hopes that jello really can stick to the wall. It’s the same tactic that the Romney camp has been using. renl is a Romney guy.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

No, no, no:

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:10PM EDT (link)

Tea Parties pushed for both fiscal discipline *and* for government to stop coddling business. Do recall that the protests were largely spurred by TARP and bailouts, after all.

The OWSers are motivated to ask for their own bailouts financed by “the rich”, regardless of complicity with our current woes.

The OWSers’ message is crap, and has been heard a thousand times over from pretty much the same group of people every election cycle. It’s neither newsworthy nor novel.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

and furthermore

kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:00PM EDT (link)

Who does not doubt for one second that if Obama was a Republican, the OWS’ers would be shouting and chanting about killing Al Queda, killing American citizens, and invading Libya and other African countries?

They are nothing but spoiled rotten, narcissistic, air-headed, left wing hypocrites. They scream about corporations in their Nike’s and Aeropostal shirts.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

"full toothed group," huh?

Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:54PM EDT (link)

Yeah, thanks for stopping by.

 

I've listened to their message.

renl57 Sunday, October 23rd at 6:49PM EDT (link)

Their message–painted on the signs they carry–is “Down With Capitalism, Up With Socialism”. Even though I doubt that most of these young people have a clue how either system is supposed to work.

They’re angry about the sad state of the U.S. economy. So are most folks here on RedState. So is the Tea Party. I get that.

But anger by itself doesn’t get you to solutions.

So they’ve publicized the trouble that young people are having starting out in the U.S. economy at this time. Good. Now they should go home and learn some economics so next time they’ll know what they’re talking about–while wiser men try to come up with real solutions.

 
 
 
 

And yet....

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 4:18PM EDT (link)

Our top candidates are for past bailouts and would do it again.

And we take out our anger on these “hippies”…..

Last I looked, the hippies were not on the ticket!

When we get a pro choice, pro lobbyist, pro bailout, pro sanctuary country, anti border candidate I hope you dont scratch your head wondering why.

The why will be because the smoke and mirrors EE and crew have bought into takes all our collective Republican minds off the trick that is being played on us from within.

So excuse me if I dont want to waste my time and effort talking about dirty hippies……

Ok, then what would you have us do?

earlgrey (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:33PM EDT (link)

Many on this site are very active in pushing conservative values within their local R parties. I have read your posts I understand you are not happy with what is being discussed here. What do you want us to do or talk about?

Don’t be too surprised if no one on this site is interested in coddling people who break the law and don’t respect private property, because that kind of lax, apologist strategy does more harm than good.

I would like...

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 4:44PM EDT (link)

EE to use his on-line voice and CNN appearances to hold our own houses feet to the fire.

My Gov down here in Mississippi is fighting AGAINST an initiative restricting eminent domain. Dont you think that is nuts? Since when do we Republicans support using eminent domain for private business?

I would like to see EE stop posting this gossip girl junk and start getting people educated and activated.

Who gives a crap about the protesters, are you scared of them, what is the fascination other than distraction from our own crappy leaders.

Lets have real conversations on real issues and show people we deserve REAL CANDIDATES with REAL solutions!

We need to concentrate on cleaning our own house before we can waste our time laughing at others!

Thanks for the reply. Why don't you start some conversations

earlgrey (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:08PM EDT (link)

Either in the diaries or on open thread. I am in Memphis not far from
MS. Educate us on what is going on and tell us on a local level what you are doing about it. Let’s teach each other how to be activists.

I dont know how to use those things...

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 5:17PM EDT (link)

And I am all for serious discussion / activism.

Im sure there is a topic in your state that would easily be solved with some backing of this site.

Imaging if EE would call HB to the carpet for supporting private party eminent domain. I love HB, but on this issue he is just selling out (imaging that from a politician).

HB would change his stance in a second if he knew there was national visibility at EE’s level.

That what I would ask EE to do with his time and site, not this “social habits of liberals” mating habits of liberals” E entertainment fluff.

How do I use a diary? What does it do?

Login to your account.

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 7:44PM EDT (link)

Below the RS banner, you should see a list of “hot topics”. Below that, you will see a list that goes like this (if you are logged in): “recent posts”, “my profile”, “my diary”, “create new diary entry”, and “log out”. Click on “create new diary entry”, and it will bring up a WordPress WYSIWYG text editor. You can preview your post, switch to html, and do a variety of things from there, and when your diary is ready, you can post it by clicking the “post diary” button. Sometimes it is buggy; if that’s the case then email RS tech support (basically the right honorable Neil :) ) at this email address: contact@redstate.com.

FWIW, I’m interested in reading your take on what’s going on in MI. If it’s well-written and informative, you can expect a recommend from me. Good luck!

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

I hope you take aesthete's advice and post a diary.

earlgrey (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 9:44AM EDT (link)

I looked for one on here from you this am. I would have replied earlier, but I was traveling back home from holiday.

I’d like to see anything that can show that conserviatve activists/tea partiers are fighting the republican establishment for personal freedoms and liberties. I think the tea party gets a bad rap in the media as being too conservative, but your issue would be one where people who might initially ignore grassroots activists might take an interest.

 
 
 
 
 

Well then, don't.

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:40PM EDT (link)

No one is forcing you to talk about them — you’re doing that all on your lonesome.

As far as I can tell, RS is dedicating most of its time (as are its commenters) to the Republican primary and candidate info, not to OWS. Most of the folks on this site are cynical and disillusioned when it comes to the Republican field, myself included. Our options are terrible because our party was terrible when it was in power, and the few bright lights have either declined to seek the Presidency, self-imploded, or are too young/inexperienced. What we can do about that in 2012 is limited, unfortunately. In the meantime, I don’t see how aligning ourselves with OWS is a stellar idea, and you haven’t made a good case for it.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

Very true...

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 4:55PM EDT (link)

but does talking about the bathing habits of liberal activists really get us anywhere?

If so, please enlighten me, I’m all ears.

Yes, it does.

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:15PM EDT (link)

A good part of the problem in this country is due to the Democrat party and its liberal constituencies. (You can take a guess as to which other major political party deserve the other part of the blame…) As far as I’m concerned, anything which makes them look foolish helps us — it’s a lot easier to primary a Republican than it is to vote in a Democrat who agrees with us. Hippies and pushback against them made the public reticent to vote for Democrats for decades. If OWSers do the same, then it’s a good thing as far as I’m concerned — especially if it means that the Tea Parties are acknowledged to have some legitimacy in the process. We need organizations that can check Republicans’ worst impulses, and the Tea Parties are among the most effective of these.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

on you comment

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 5:37PM EDT (link)

“A good part of the problem in this country is due to the Democrat party and its liberal constituencies”.

That may be correct but how is this conversation (protesters, not the protesters issues) advancing that issue…?

Spending time talking about the messenger (these protesters) seems to me like sitting around complaining how bad we all stink after getting sprayed by skunks instead of cleaning ourselves up and talking about how we are going to get rid of the skunks.

It's just ONE diary

renl57 Sunday, October 23rd at 7:12PM EDT (link)

There are a lot more articles on a lot more subjects here.

And I don’t think that the “Tech at Night” diaries are critical to defeating Obama either.

I still read them though.

 
 
 
 
 

just a word on the bailouts

kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:54PM EDT (link)

It is easy to take a doctrinaire stance against any and all bailouts, and if you go by pure free market theory then that is what you should do.

However, in the real world, a lack of anti trust enforcement for decades lead to a small handful of financial agents who were so big that their failure might indeed have led to a complete meltdown.

Also, one must remember the panic that had set in at the time and the politicians being confronted with the specter of a full blown depression, and having to make a quick decision.

My own view is that the very first TARP was indeed necessary, although it was probably larger than it needed to be, but the second one was not.

You can argue the opposite, but it is very difficult to second guess such a thing.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

I will give you that

govreaganfan Sunday, October 23rd at 4:59PM EDT (link)

Maybe it was necessary, I honestly do not know.

But now that we averted total financial collapse, where is the accountability?

Why are our candidates talking about supporting another effort if one is needed instead of demanding these institutions be brought down to a size they cannot ever threaten our stability again?

No, our solution is to let them get even BIGGER? Really? Thats an acceptable solution?

Nobody wants to talk about these things, NOT EE, NOT FOX, nobody….. why is that?

well I agree with that

kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:03PM EDT (link)

the accountability might begin when Republicans finally get back in charge, in fact I will be very disjointed if Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are not forced to give testimony to congress.

And both parties still have an aversion to Anti-trust legislation. I have never seen any increased value to the citizen and consumer from allowing more concentration and less competition in an industry.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

TARP as originally envisioned, perhaps

renl57 Sunday, October 23rd at 7:26PM EDT (link)

As originally envisioned and proposed by Bush and Paulson, TARP involved the buying up of so-called toxic assets: Get them off the books of the financial institutions, and then auction them off to other investors later.

At the time, I felt I could accept that as an emergency measure.

But then the program changed. Brit PM Gordon Brown convinced Bush and Paulson to do it the British way: Buy the preferred stock of the banks directly. That method (which most congressional Republicans finally accepted) came close to nationalization, and made Obama’s outright nationalization of General Motors seem like the inevitable next step.

You gotta draw the line somewhere.
I prefer to draw that line at nationalization.

 
 

There is plenty of news to report here,

bs61 Monday, October 24th at 12:10AM EDT (link)

and Red State does and OWS is news.

 
 

I am new here.

romansdaughter Sunday, October 23rd at 4:39PM EDT (link)

I have been out of the country for a while but since getting good internet service down here I have been paying attention to the news. Now my friends and I have thought these OWS things that have sprung up and that Obama and his minions encourage is because they are trying to take our attention off of the scandals with Solyndra, Fast and Furious and many others. Don’t you all think that this is the case??? I don’t think they care what they do as long as the media will cover it and gloss over the big scandals.

“I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn’t,than live my life as if there isn’t and die to find out there is.” Albert Camus

“Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.” Alexander Hamilton

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill

” He is no fool, who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.” Jim Elliot

kinda sorta

kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 4:49PM EDT (link)

I really do think that the OWS was not thought up by the White House and at first those protestors were not saying anything good about Obama.

But they have now been thoroughly hijacked by the Democrat party.
As was easy to predict since they had no firm message of their own, only some inchoate set of feelings, So it was easy to see that they would be co-opted by people with an agenda.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

kyle8, which only goes to point out the differences

lineholder (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 5:06PM EDT (link)

between OWS and TEA Party participants.

 
 
 

Was there at the Beck Rally

retire05 Sunday, October 23rd at 5:27PM EDT (link)

Hung around the Mall for a couple of hours to let the thousands of people get through the Metro. Talked to a park ranger who was telling me that the people who were part of D.C. park service that had been called in, well, most of them were told they didn’t have to show up as there was no trash to pick up except for what was in the trash cantainers and that would be picked up later that night. He said if he didn’t know better, he would have denied anyone held a rally there and after 15 years on the park staff, had never seen the Mall left so clean.

But the funniest part of this report is the people in San Antonio. I counted heads the tatooed lady was giving a report to. Around 30. Guess Texans just aren’t into all that “socialism” stuff. That and the Hispanic cops on the SAPD will bust their chops quick for any violation of the law.

retire05

 

One left-wing movement that succeeded

renl57 Sunday, October 23rd at 6:37PM EDT (link)

“…they’re going to wonder why this movement – like every other left-wing street movement in American history – never goes anywhere.”

One left-wing movement succeeded: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s civil rights demonstrations.

But Dr. King always insisted that these demonstrations had to be peaceful and dignified. His demonstrators used to carry the American flag, while Dr. King demanded that America live up to its ideals in the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

In that sense, Dr. King’s protests resembled the Tea Party protests more than they did the OWS protests.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

keysconservative Sunday, October 23rd at 8:13PM EDT (link)

Dr. King was a Republican who supported the Republican led civil rights bill-you know the one; the one the Democrats fought tooth and nail to defeat. In the 1960′s, and earlier, the KKK was made up primarily of southern Democrats who fought equal rights for blacks on every level. That’s why conservatives have always referred to the KKK as “The Militant Wing of the Democrat Party.”
You are right, however, when you point out that Dr. King’s protests resembled the Tea Party protests more than OWS. That’s because BOTH movements were made up of conservatives. The OWS protests are more like Woodstock on acid. Without the great music.

 
 

Former Soviet Citizen in Dust Up with the Useful Idiots of OWS

publious Sunday, October 23rd at 11:40PM EDT (link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMV0TR3pGzg

What a great video!

bs61 Monday, October 24th at 12:28AM EDT (link)

It’s always still surprising to me to see the Che-deniers!

Che Deniers

publious Monday, October 24th at 12:48AM EDT (link)

It’s invincible ignorance.

 
 

the vid

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 1:01AM EDT (link)

Ya did it once, Whats up.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

the vid

publious Monday, October 24th at 1:07AM EDT (link)

Gekster,

I followed the instructions exactly as before and cannot get it to work. I don’t know what I’m missing.

You do know that when...

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 1:18AM EDT (link)

you paste the embed code, it shows as the code until you post it.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

That's it

publious Monday, October 24th at 1:23AM EDT (link)

I saw the code in the comment box and thought there was an error, and didn’t bother to post.

Thanks,

No problem.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 1:35AM EDT (link)

I did the same when I started posting vids.
So don’t feel like you’r the only one.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 
 
 
 
 

No Exit Strategy for OWS

Ed54 (Diary) Sunday, October 23rd at 11:52PM EDT (link)

Today, read a great point about OWS: they do not have an exit strategy. How do they end the “occupations”? They are not going to achieve their policy goals, and they are not going to continue occupying various parks foever. So …. either they make a big show of walking away, or they gradually peter out. Either way, they have set themselves up to lose.

“If all men were just, there would be no need of valor.”
- Agesilaus

Declare a moral victory...

haumea (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 2:00AM EDT (link)

This will certainly make sense to the Trophy Generation – they will walk away with their “participant” trophy and brag about how they stuck it to the greedy capitalist pigs.

 

Yes, they never set a point to declare "Victory!"

Adjoran (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 2:48AM EDT (link)

and walk away. They therefore must either die of attrition or burn down the cities. Neither seems likely to work as a recruiting device.

 
 

You left out Occupy Orange County.

Menlo (Diary) Monday, October 24th at 1:19AM EDT (link)

The city of Irvine apparently had some maintenance issues with its sprinkler system.

It’s probably the first shower they had since these things started.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter