I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe Mitt Romney should take seriously this shot across the bow by Fox News host Chris Wallace:
[Mitt Romney] has not appeared on this program or any Sunday talk show since March of 2010. We invited Gov. Romney again this week, but his campaign says he’s still not ready to sit down for an interview.
After all, for just how long has Mitt Romney been running for President by now? 2009? If he’s not ready now to be play you’re-on-the-griddle with Chris Wallace then when the heck will Romney be ready? When Romney’s trying for the nomination again in 2016?
I imagine that the temptation is strong for Romney – or his supporters – to shrug this one off, but I’d recommend against that, for a couple of reasons. First off, it’s a bad idea for a candidate to start acting as if he or she is above the petty considerations and/or obligations of campaigning; even if the media lets you get away with it in the primary they’re unlikely to let you get away with it in the general*. Second, specifically: Mitt Romney already has no reputation for bravery. Being perceived as hiding from the Sunday shows won’t help him erase that problem. Third, finally, and to draw off from the first reason: who the heck told Mitt Romney that he was entitled to act like the nomination was merely a formality, anyway? He’s a former governor and a mortal being, not some sort of mythological figure.
Moe Lane (crosspost)
*Unless you’re a Democrat – and the Awful Example of President Barack Obama should show you the perils of that particular poisoned fruit. If the media had smacked him around more, he might not have turned out to be such a… sub-optimal… President.
Jeff Emanuel
Romney has been running
profnickd67 Sunday, October 30th at 2:27PM EDT (link)for President since January 2007.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/us/politics/04romney.html
Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal (Developing)
thesaint Sunday, October 30th at 9:54PM EDT (link)Really disturbing story: h ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html
Nice threadjack.
barry915barry (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:58PM EDT (link)nt
:)
thesaint Sunday, October 30th at 10:02PM EDT (link)Ciao barry915barry: I have never ‘threaded’ before. Was it OK? I thought the story was significant.
Well, saint, not the time or place.
barry915barry (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:04PM EDT (link)Moe has already commented on this up thread. Barry.
kowalski
barry915barry (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:06PM EDT (link)Down thread. Sorry. Barry.
Hello, thesaint.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:18PM EDT (link)Goodbye, thesaint.
BLAM.
Have I got everybody’s attention on threadjacking, now?
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Romney prefers
texabama Sunday, October 30th at 2:37PM EDT (link)the 60 second sound-bite system of the “debates” as opposed to an interview where he will really have to articulate his policies. Easier to stay “above the fray” that way.
Wallace is unlikely to let him get away with
Paula (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:03PM EDT (link)Stomping his foot and whining, “My turn! My turn! My turn!!!”
Today George Will referred to Romney’s guiding principals as a “blurry profile in caution.”
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Romney owes Chris Wallace nothing. Chris always makes it about Chris. Mitt needs to
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:34PM EDT (link)run his campaign his way…and lose!
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Or run it his way... and win!
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 5:47PM EDT (link)Look, who watches Sunday morning political talk shows other than people who have already made up their minds about who they want to vote for?
David Gregory, Bob Schiefer, and Chris Wallace are just their to try to impress their viewers with intentionally divisive questions.
If someone wants to know Mitt’s views on a topic, they can go to his website, google it, or watch him in the debates.
Talk shows are nothing but sucker-bait. Just ask John McCain, Sarah Palin, or either President Bush. No potential gain. Huge potential loss.
The anti-Romney crowd is just waiting for a soundbyte they can use to ignite other minions with an ambush attack.
Romney’s got a great path to the nomination. Why ruin it just for the “opportunity” of sitting down with Chris Wallace?
I guess if he went on the talk shows, he.....
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:58PM EDT (link)would have to explain his fip-flops.
I guess he realises that most talk shows are only an hour long.
I’ll give him credit for that.
I did hear a Fox reporter (yes, on Fox) say that Mitts was like
“a perfectly lubed wether vane”.
Nailed it.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
if memory serves...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 7:36PM EDT (link)this weather-vane quote was from huntsman
jus’ sayin’
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
How about for the "opportunity" to explain his positions...
iidvbii Sunday, October 30th at 6:07PM EDT (link)Of course we all understand the disclaimer that comes with any Romney position (this statement is subject to change without warning or future acknowledgments that said statement was made). It would be nice to have him set down and set the record straight. If the record can be set straight that is. What are you afraid of? A couple dozen more videos of ” I do support that, I don’t support that… I never said that…. ”
He looks mighty small hiding in that bus refusing to speak.
In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?
We're onto you already.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:02PM EDT (link)Quit.
The same way we are onto Romney.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:06PM EDT (link)And he SHOULD quit.
The only problem with Romney is, WE KNOW who he is.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Onto what exactly Jack?
iidvbii Monday, October 31st at 10:43AM EDT (link)I have not attempted to hide the fact that i support Perry. I have not made any attempts to hide my contempt for romney. So know I will not “quit”. I will keep bringing up the point that romney has a record years in the making of saying what he feels will get him elected. Do you believe the media and their masters at the DNC arent going to clobber Romney and by extension the GOP with this record next year? Do you think Romney will do any better than john kerry did in the general when he is exposed as the fraud he is? Between being painted as a wall street insider and a blue blood elitist born with a silver spoon out of touch one percenter. the label of flip flopping plotical opportunist should do him in nicely. Not to mention the man has no attack path on Romney as their records and posituons are almost identical.Isnt it better ole switch hit do some interviews now, lose the nomination and spare the country four more years of obama?
In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?
jack', you make a great case for not talking to Chris Wallace
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 7:34PM EDT (link)can’t argue against it
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
"blurry profile in caution"
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:19AM EDT (link)thanks Paula I did not see the succinct elegance of that phrase.
He has a way with words, G. Will, does he not?
Romney's Cloak of Inevitability is wearing thin...
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 2:38PM EDT (link)when even the talking heads start noticing he’s using it to hide from them…
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
The George Will piece is devastating because Will is The Beltway Conservative
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 7:35PM EDT (link)He’s lost Will. The GOP Dukakis. Wow.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
"Beltway Conservative"
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:21AM EDT (link)succinctly accurate description of G. Will and so many others.
I am convinced that the negative reaction to Rick Perry is, in part, that he is not from, or of, the northeast and his style offends the refined tastes of the Washington-Wall Street elite.
Texas v. Washington-Wall Street….who wins?
Agreed, but I have heard Will speak well of Perry often
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 11:13AM EDT (link)based on his policies in Texas.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Thin but surprisingly sturdy.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:09PM EDT (link)Like a lightweight kevlar vest.
Whenever I think of Sarah Palin, I think of the mauling she got from Katie Couric. Sarah did not do herself or the McCain campaign any favors by agreeing to that interview. Whichever one of her advisers pushed her into it should have been fired.
Katie was completely hostile. And then you have that ABC guy that interviewed Sarah. The one that asked her what she thought of “the Bush Doctrine”. Sarah asked a perfectly legitimate request for clarification on that one and the interviewer rolled his eyes like he had better things to do than to interview this person. (His name was Charlie something. Not Charlie Rose.)
These interviewers are single-mindedly focused on ratings. They don’t get paid to find out what a candidate’s campaign is based on. They ask the kinds of questions that will get their interviews “buzz”. This means asking about personal issues which should be out of bounds. It means asking “gotcha” questions like “What do you think about the Bush Doctrine?” and then rolling their eyes if the interviewee asks, “Que?”
The televised interview has turned into a bad spectacle. All candidates should think very carefully before consenting to an interview: Is it really worth it?
If you are Romney and you have the ability to win the nomination without submitting to needling from the lilliputians who do televised interviews, why would you submit to such harranguing?
That's some 150 proof irony, Jack Daniels. Becker would approve.
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:10PM EDT (link)Using the mauling that Palin took to justify Romney ducking the press.
The irony shows up because one of the things Becker and others were hardest on Palin for was her ducking of serious media, and now Mitt’s doing the same thing and you’re using Palin to justify it.
This is theater of the absurd, Jack.
Look, what Mitt’s trying to do is simple – float above the fray and let the other candidates destroy each other, then re-enter after Iowa, with a good showing in New Hampshire, and be “the electable one” .. with no solid positions taken to walk back.
I .. do not want to vote for someone in 2012 because they’re the “least bad”.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
Obama-Lite
wennejunk (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 2:39PM EDT (link)“who the heck told Mitt Romney that he was entitled to act like the nomination was merely a formality, anyway? He’s a former governor and a mortal being, not some sort of mythological figure.”
Now if he were a full-blown Obama-redux…well, then the deity-factor would need to be taken into consideration.
As a mere demi-god, however, he still has to obey a few rules
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis
Good'un, wennejunk! :D
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 8:05PM EDT (link)LOL!
Surgical.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
ditto
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:23AM EDT (link)ditto to avagreen
Only if there is such thing as
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:11PM EDT (link)a pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-family values, anti-tax Obama.
Romney and Obama are like night and day. You can’t say that about Herman Cain.
To quote Regan, there you go again Jack....
iidvbii Monday, October 31st at 5:55PM EDT (link)Switch hit Mitt and Obama are like day and later that day.
Their views on healthcare, the second amendment, abortion and most of all the governments role in american society is like apples and well apples. Mittens is the juiliet to Obamas Romeo.
In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?
I don't need no stinkin' Wallace. I got Karl Rove.
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 2:40PM EDT (link)Really, once you get that Rove stamp of approval, everytrhing else matters little.
Rove reads tea leaves better than anyone.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:12PM EDT (link)If Rove didn’t believe that Bush was a winner, he wouldn’t have signed onto his campaign.
Rove knows which Republican Obama is afraid of and which Republicans Obama would like to face.
Rove has cast his lot with the most articulate Republican in the bunch (all apologies to Speaker Gingrich who runs a close second.)
And then the brave Sir Romney
paulplantowin Sunday, October 30th at 2:43PM EDT (link)Bravely ran away. (Sorry, couldn’t resist with the Monty Python refs. lately)
It seems Romney thinks he can pull this tactic off – maybe he LIKES being stalled at mid-20′s poll numbers.
I’m wondering just what the brave Sir Romney thinks will happen if he hits the talk shows – what is he afraid OF?
What if....
Michael_Handley Sunday, October 30th at 3:42PM EDT (link)I wonder what will happen when Cain wins Iowa?
that's a big if
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:15PM EDT (link)And if he does, I’m sure it will be with some cross-over help from Obama’s willing deputies.
Cain won’t win in any state that McCain didn’t carry in 2008. Cain puts states like Missouri and Montana into play when the GOP needs to focus on picking off swing states like Ohio and Florida.
Question is
txpat Sunday, October 30th at 2:44PM EDT (link)would he get a soft ball interview by Chris Wallace?
Fox in the tank for Romney wouldn’t want him to drop in the polls.
I doubt it.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:19PM EDT (link)Wallace would ask him questions with faulty premises like “Why don’t Republicans like you?”
The problem with that question is that it presumes that Republicans don’t like Romney.
There are Republicans who don’t like Rick Perry. There are Republicans who don’t like Herman Cain. And there are Republicans who don’t like Mitt Romney.
Somehow, the conventional wisdom (from the Obama camp and his mainstream media buddies) is that “Republicans don’t like Romney”.
Polls indicate that many Republicans DO like Romney. He has higher favorability numbers that Cain or Perry. I’ve been a Republican since 1996 and I like Romney. My wife and I are voting for him as are my parents, my brothers, their wives, etc.
We can’t afford another 4 years of BHO.
I agree that we cant afford four more of Obama...
iidvbii Monday, October 31st at 6:32PM EDT (link)What I can’t figure out for the life of me Jack is why you keep advocating the first four of Romney? The guy is a pathological flip flopper. To suggest he is untrustworthy is an insult to used car salesmen. What makes you think anything he says today is any more binding than what he said in 1994,2006,2008 or2010? The vast differences in core principles over these years is shocking enough to make obama blush. I have read many of your posts and most suggest that you are a reasonable, well informed and intelligent person. Of course the others like the one above make me question your mental faculties. To suggest that Rommey is some how going to share nearly 80% of obamas views and policies coupled with the record of flip flopps and a wall street insider past is going to sway the electorate is insane. The guy cant even sway republicans we are supposed to be on the same side. If Romney gets the nomination, Obama and the media will shred him. One percenter, wall street puppet, out of touch elitest will be nice things the headlines read. Just wait till they get around to his statements and record, that’s when the real fun begins.
In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?
If Perry or Cain refused
Ashbrook (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 2:46PM EDT (link)The press would be all over them.. Romney has not sat for an interview since March of 2010? Do you need more evidence that the fix is in?
After Perry's performance
lcnsac Sunday, October 30th at 2:46PM EDT (link)during the interview, Romney doesn’t need to appear. Perry handed it to him again.
And let the flame throwing begin ...
joayn (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:01PM EDT (link)nt
America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte
Its not worth the time
bzip Sunday, October 30th at 3:08PM EDT (link)It’s not even worth the time responding to this dribble.
This is why Perry is dodging debates.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:21PM EDT (link)Which is what Moe Lane’s diary should be on.
Who cares about the talk show chuckle-heads when people can hear Mitt Romney’s views during the debates.
And the candidate who has decided that debate-prep is too hard is Rick Perry.
How can he be taken seriously if he doesn’t want to debate the other candidates?
:contemplating: ...Nah.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:30PM EDT (link)But your attempt to change the subject is duly noted.
Moe Lane
PS: I’ll give you some slack because you’re outnumbered about ten to one – as opposed to your candidate, who’s only stuck with three-to-one against and the needle not moving for months – but if you’re going to use snark, please, don’t use stale snark. For Romney’s sake, if nobody else’s.
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jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:35PM EDT (link)I will retract my “dodging debates” comment. It appears that Rick Perry WILL actually participate in 5 more debates. Which is good.
Not as good as participation in all of the remaining debates. But whatever. If Perry can avoid getting tongue-tied and avoid allowing his surrogates to play the religion card, he has at least a fighting chance in Iowa. We’ll see where it goes from there.
And it was icnsac who changed the topic.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:36PM EDT (link)Not me.
I don’t see why you would post a diary on Wallace whining about Romney not coming onto his show. It doesn’t seem like it’s even worth discussing. It’s like discussing the news that didn’t happen today.
I didn't post a diary. I posted a front-pager.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:43PM EDT (link)And that’s actually not a non sequitur.
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"In my view" Gov Perry did a fine job up against Wallace
circlegranch Sunday, October 30th at 2:48PM EDT (link)Gov Perry as poised, confident, relaxed. His answers were geniune and he struck a very positive tone. Wallace wanted so badly to keep droning on about the prior debates but Perry stayed focus and eventually forced him to move on.
A front page article in the weekend WSJ says Romney has picked up several Bush supporters. Within the article, there’s a shocking phrase, “….Romney’s steady accumulation of support among party bigwigs, despite tepid enthusiasm for his candidancy…”
If Republicans are going to settle for a nominee inspite of having tepid enthusiam for that candidate, the party becomes more and more irrevelant.
I want to be very energized by our nominee. Reagan warned against pastels. We need bold color.
Wish Herman Cain would pick that up from Gov Perry
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:46PM EDT (link)Perry did do a good job getting the attention back on his issues rather than on lingering on the debate performances.
Poor Herman got stuck with Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation, and Bob really didn’t want to get into any nuts and bolts of policy per se. He just wanted to ream him over allowing a guy to openly smoke on camera, and how it sends a bad message to others. Again.
Cain’s always said he doesn’t smoke, but respects right Blocks to. But Scheiffer hung on talking about his cancer etc. Bob even wanted him to pull it.
At least Perry was able to quickly turn Chris’ planned bullet points back on to things that he wanted to focus on. Herman has to waste time spoonfeeding Bob on the success of the ad. He needs to pull a page from the Perry playbook in that regard I think.
Why are these talk show hosts wading into the weeds? Isn’t there a nuclear weapon or housing crisis to focus on somewhere?
Cain does as well on media interviews as Perry does in the debates.
Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:44PM EDT (link)I’m sorry to say.
Cain’s main problem as I see it (disclaimer: I prefer Perry, although Cain is better than Romney) is that he has never been held accountable for his words. Whether on his talk show, as an executive, or in the pulpit, Cain doesn’t have the experience of the audience talking back and asking pointed questions on stupid stuff.
As for the choice of media, I think Cain’s strategy (again,my opinion) is to bait the liberal media into using his skin color as a bashing point, and somehow win sympathy (and votes) from the GOPers (he has my sympathy, but not my vote). I admire his strategy (if it is as such), but like you say, he needs to turn it towards substantial matters.
Call me cynical, but that’s how I see it.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Poor Herman didn't get stuck with Schieffer
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 6:06PM EDT (link)Poor Herman agreed to go on with Schieffer. Poor Herman had to once again backtrack on a campaign message with the smoking ad. Poor Herman wound up having to defend his own personal message against smoking, which he said he has encouraged people to not smoke. Poor Herman had to once again backtrack, and explain another yet another campaign faux paus. His supporters thought the ad was brilliant, but, the left is not seeing it that way. If poor Herman agreed with the smoking ad, he shouldn’t have had to give excuses for it, but could have talked about the message it was trying to portray.
what backtracking??
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 7:40PM EDT (link)Herman has never backtracked on the Smoking man ad Scope.
Since the day it garenered serious attention and the very first time he has been asked about he has maintained:
1) Block smokes , I don’t.
2) I respect his right to smoke.
3) Block doesn’t smoke around me , he respects that i don’t smoke
4) We believe in letitng people be themselves
5) I dont encourage others to smoke
6) Its wildly successful, generated massive hits to website and brought in millions of dolalrs to campaign.
7) No I’m not going to pull it.
He never “backtracked,” as you put it. And who cares if “the left doesn’t see it” as brilliant. Herman’s not going for the left.
He’s and Block explained this to numerous reporters, pundits all week. All Bob had to do was read up on what Herman told every other bloody idiot whose asked about it.
Geez. Wait till they get watch of “He carried yellow flowers.” Bob would have a field day with that chicken. I love Herman but even I don’t get that one. I understand the part about “color” and “card carrying liberals”. but then Its seven minutes of funny bizaaro. But again it gets his name out there so whats the problem.
So glad your candidate has a lots of name recognition. Nobody knew who Herman was back in August. These were ads designed to get people to notice someone who unlike, Bachmann and Perry and Romney Paul and Newt were very well recognized. (I’m not sure average people coould have picked Tpaw and Santorum out of a linup.)
Block smoked into a camera lens. He didn’t get any of his cooties on the viewer. Its not Herman’s job to tell kids to not smoke. That’s a parent’s job. And its not herman’s job to tell an adult not to smoke.
Last I saw it was still legal for adults to smoke in some states.
the smoking ad was the dumbest one
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:25PM EDT (link)since Mike Gravel’s “rock-in-lake” ad in 2007.
Cain is obviously trying to say, “Hey, if you don’t want a Mormon to be your nominee, I’m your guy.” That is the only way that the smoking in the video makes sense.
It’s like a new spin on Huckabee’s “floating cross” ad from December of 2008.
Can’t Cain just talk about the issues? Oh, that’s right. He cain’t.
Floating cross was December of 2007.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:26PM EDT (link)Sorry.
ok, how does mormonism fit in there? And this better be good.
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:33PM EDT (link)I didn’t see religion. I saw a man smoking a cigarette. Outside. Which is where a lot of smokers are relegated to, BTW. I saw an average guy smoking a cigarette. There wasn’t a bible anywhere. You have got to be joking.
Ok…show me the map of the of the grassy knoll again. Cause I’m not convinced on that one either.
Most people know so little about Romney
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:42PM EDT (link)and his religion.
When people are asked to name the first word that comes to their mind when they hear the name “Mitt Romney”, they say “Mormon”.
No other candidate’s religion is as much at issue as Mitt Romney’s.
Cain still hasn’t given a coherent explanation for why his had features his campaign manager smoking. It just doesn’t make sense.
Until you connect the dots. Mitt Romney belongs to a religion whose tenets adhere to a strict behavioral code (as most people know). The behavioral code includes a prohibition on smoking, drinking, and a few other things.
Cain has finally gotten his campaign to the point where there is only one candidate between him and the nomination: Mitt Romney. What is the biggest diff btwn Romney and Cain? Well, there are several. The biggest, in my opinion, is that Romney has governed before and Cain hasn’t. But the other biggee is that Romney is a “Mormon” and Cain is some other type of Christian.
Cain can get the nomination if he can convince voters that a Mormon shouldn’t be their nominee. But he has to be very careful not to connect all of the dots. Perry’s attempt backfired already.
ok jackdaniels
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:17PM EDT (link)I’ll concede that mormons don’t smoke. If you will concede, that almost all other religions including christian, aren’t wild about it either. Your body is a temple and all that. I know some southern baptists that go absolutely loopy if you smoke anywhere near them. He wouldn’t have allowed a cig to get in if he thought it would have offended his southern base, just to try and get a dig at a mormon opponent. He’s not going to take the chance it might backfire.
Rick Perry's authenticity
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:27AM EDT (link)Rick Perry’s genuineness is one of his most attractive characteristics.
There are no saints in Washington and Rick Perry won’t be the first but in the real world of politics, he has accomplished more than any other candidates.
As we have learned the hard way, experience in governing counts.
Rick Perry beat the Bush Establishment. Some how I think Mitt Romney is not as formidable.
"In my view" Gov Perry did a fine job up against Wallace
circlegranch Sunday, October 30th at 2:48PM EDT (link)Gov Perry as poised, confident, relaxed. His answers were geniune and he struck a very positive tone. Wallace wanted so badly to keep droning on about the prior debates but Perry stayed focus and eventually forced him to move on.
A front page article in the weekend WSJ says Romney has picked up several Bush supporters. Within the article, there’s a shocking phrase, “….Romney’s steady accumulation of support among party bigwigs, despite tepid enthusiasm for his candidancy…”
If Republicans are going to settle for a nominee inspite of having tepid enthusiam for that candidate, the party becomes more and more irrevelant.
I want to be very energized by our nominee. Reagan warned against pastels. We need bold color.
Palin Did The Same Thing
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 2:53PM EDT (link)Let’s not forget that Palin was accused of the exact same thing. At the time many defended her claiming that she has no need to bow down to the driveby media.
I think we can all agree that Romney has been purposely laying low with media to avoid mistakes. However, surely the campaign knows that it can’t do that forever. Sooner or later it will have to happen, but the Romney campaign needs to make sure it happens on their own schedule. Such appearances pose a great risk, but they can also be a huge plus. This gives the Romney campaign the opportunity to use such appearances when they will have the greatest effect.
Personally I don’t think November is the best time for such a strategy. People forget about the campaign trail during the holidays. A media interview blitz would have mrore effect in January when things pickup into full swing.
Because Romney has been treated exactly the same as Palin in the media
Paula (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:18PM EDT (link)Romney has been treated with kid gloves in the media, in particular, by Fox News, in extra particular by the raised-pinky cocktail party set at Fox.
The man has spent every free minute since 2007 honing his debate and interview skills, practicing his answers and perfecting the presidential smile and head tilt. You’re saying he’s avoiding Chris Wallace because he’s afraid they’re going to ask him what he reads?
Moe is right. This is a question of courage.
Paula
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I disagree.
jackdaniels11 Sunday, October 30th at 8:29PM EDT (link)The media has been as rough on Romney as they have been on other GOP candidates.
Cain and Perry just provide juicier “cringe-moments”. So they create the kind of stories that have “legs”. Like the N-head story, the Robert Jeffries story, the smoking ad story, the “heartless” story, the abortion flip-flop story, etc.
I didn't see the Perry interview
retire05 Sunday, October 30th at 3:00PM EDT (link)perhaps because my distaste for Wallace is so strong. That apple did not fall far from the tree.
I don’t know if Romney is making a wise decision in recruiting Bush supporters. Part of the reason Obama was elected was Bush/war fatigue. As I have said before, it is rumored in Austin that Rove is already working for Romney, but under the table, so to speak. Since Rove is virulently opposed to Perry, I pretty much think the rumors are true.
retire05
Romney is getting all the Bush liberals on-board
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:23PM EDT (link)The one way train to the Obama re-election party…..
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
It's funny how all the people who said Bush was no conservative,
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:26PM EDT (link)are touting all the people who supported Bush and now supporting Romney as being benificial to Romney.
More who want it both ways.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Bush Liberals on Board
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:29AM EDT (link)exactly. this is more telling than all the rhetoric. We do not need another BushObama presidency. Time for smaller more affordable, freer government.
Gov subsidies for energy are no longer an option: we're broke
circlegranch Sunday, October 30th at 3:06PM EDT (link)Perry was pressed about a letter he’d sent to the fed’s to support a nuke plant. Wallace only put up a line from the letter so without reading its entirety he should not have indicated Perry was specifically asking for federal dollars. Even if he did at the time, he’s right to have changed his position now. He’s a state’s rights advocate so he was doing his job as the CEO of Texas. As president, and working to balance the budget by 2012, every bit of spending is going to get a haircut, frozen or even eliminated.
There was a time where govt. subsidies may have had a role but no longer. We have no money for it, and we don’t need it when we can re-ignite our private sector to do the job. We don’t need govt dollars and we don’t need their interference. Get out of the way, abolish the EPA and we’ll have plenty of energy development.
circlegranch- Perry was talking about
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:42PM EDT (link)Nuclear energy, and he even pronounced Nuclear correctly, LOL.
I don’t remember when Wallace said Perry wrote that letter, but the energy sector in the country has been begging for nuclear energy as an alternative to oil/gas, and green energy types. I do believe that Perry would not subsidize any energy producers, but, nuclear is an energy source such that has to have some federal gov. input. Perry brought up about the spent fuel rods. One must also consider some sort of regulations, as if we were ever bombed by Iran, or anyone, hitting a nuclear plant would be much more disasterous than if they hit a coal fired power plant, or an oil pipeline. Perry handled that try at a hit piece from Wallace very well, I thought.
Preemptive defense?
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 3:45PM EDT (link)I agree with you that what Wallace put up was not all that big of a deal all by its self. However, not much else from what I saw of the interview stood out to me. The way he went about answering the question was horrible. My take away from it was “yes I admit that I flip flopped on subsidies”.
Maybe it won’t be a big deal, but the thing I’d be worried about is what other doors it opens up? The big problem Perry would have in a national election in my view is accusations of crony capitalism.. Nobody has really hit on this point in the primary yet. This could be an open invitation for everyone to start digging.
It has been dug into, and burried. nt
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:10PM EDT (link)…nt..nt…
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Don't go lazy, gekster. Give him the link.
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:23PM EDT (link)Go here.
The TTC and Gardasil “cronyism” is all there. Discussed. Dug into. Digested. Buried.
Mew
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here, pesky truth.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:37PM EDT (link)http://www.redstate.com/izoneguy/2011/08/14/seventeen-17-things-that-critics-are-saying-about-rick-perry/
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
this posting has withstood the test-of-time...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:06PM EDT (link)…because of its candor and content
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Yeppers! I use it daily to confound the liberals.
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 8:09PM EDT (link)Also, pull from this one:
http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590#respond
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
two good links
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:34AM EDT (link)thanks gekster and avagreen these are two good links for future reference
Tip Of The Iceberg
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 5:26PM EDT (link)Please. You think that Gardasil and the TTC are the only things Perry will have to contend with? There’s the whole laundry list provided by that hack Tabbi at the rolling stone, and Wallace brought up a new one today. Its just the tip of the iceberg. They’ll bring out every company that has ever been associated with Perry, not matter how superficial the connection is.
Whether or not any of these cases have merit is besides the point though. I’ve already read the articles in the links you provided. I’m not here to argue the whether these attacks have merit or not. We all know that it doesn’t have to be true to stick. My point is simply that Perry’s comment on the issue was a mistake. If that door opens it will be difficult to close. If people are talking about it, that alone does damage to Perry.
A defense of Perry’s comment came up before anyone even started to attack him for it. My comment that it can do damage if it picks up was vehemently countered by multiple members. It says to me that you all know the damage it could do.
Uh, no it doesn't.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:44PM EDT (link)As they have been addressed.
If they were going to do damage, then the other candidates would be harping on them.
Case in point, Michelle Bachmann.
It did more to damage her then Perry.
Get over it.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Gardasil Didn't Ruin Bachmann
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 5:59PM EDT (link)Bachmann ruined Bachmann. It was picking up quite a bit of steam at the time, and it probably would have continued if it wasn’t for Bachmann’s usual stupid comments.
It’s silly to say everything has already been taken into consideration. If that’s true then why is everyone on this website always lamenting about how nobody has ever exposed Romney’s problems? The conversation about each candidate will continue to evolve. Some of the largest vulnerabilities don’t show up until the general election.
There is absolutely no way to know how big of a vulnerability the crony argument has. It might not even come up. Just don’t make the mistake of thinking that it’s already passed. That’s what Romney thought about illegal immigration, and we all see how that turned out for him.
*bzzzt*. Thank you for trying, though.
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 6:46PM EDT (link)There is a perfectly good proxy for the cronyism argument – and that is the election where Perry beat out KBH for Gov. of Texas.
It was late enough in his career for most, if not all of this to be on the table, and she had the Bushies backing her.
If they couldn’t make hay, then there’s no reason to believe Team Obama can.
Seriously. Please try again if you come up with something else.
We’ve been discussing Perry (and Romney and Ron Paul and Bachmann and even Barbour and Pawlenty and McCotter – before they either dropped out or dropped off radar …) for quite a while. It’s a little thing we like to call “Vetting”.
Mew
(somehow, though, we’ve never really vetted Buddy Roemer..)
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You aren't in texas anymore
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 8:05PM EDT (link)You’re making the same mistake that initially scuttled the Perry campaign by assuming that Texas is an effective model for the national stage. It’s a much bigger issue today than it was back then, and Democrats are already rallying around the issue.
I still don’t know how much the crony issue will affect the election, but I can assure you this won’t be the last time you hear about it.
crony-capitalism argument...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:11PM EDT (link)…is credible, but dwarfed by jobs/jobs/job…as illustrated by how Rick pivoted when confronted by his support for Nuke-energy [endorsing need for priorization...but preferred as manifest via the states]; remember how he handled Yukka Mountain? He advised states would compete/bid…and this buried The Newt’s dependence on “science [particularly when it was pointed-out that "science" had already endorsed Yukka].
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Words have meanings, Seth Ellis.
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:55PM EDT (link)A ship, once scuttled, is going to the bottom. Not negotiable.
The Dems aren’t going to manage to use it as an issue. All Perry has to do is say “Solyndra Fisker Citigroup” and they fold, don’t kid yourself.
I keep hearing that nuclear power is unsafe and that french fries are bad for me too, but .. not really convinced of those anymore either.
Mew
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Solyndra
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:37AM EDT (link)What Rick Perry did in Texas may not have been pure but there were no Solyndras.
Obama’s hands are not clean. Nor anyone else’s.
Solyndra may be survivable, Beacon Hill and Fisker prove there's a pattern.
acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 10:41AM EDT (link)Beacon Hill? These guys. (link to thehill.com) Another high-tech outfit backed by our tax dollars.
Want to bet there’s Dem donors involved?
Mew
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rolling-stone was hit-piece...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:08PM EDT (link)…as illustrated by the accompanying ad-hominem characterizations
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Mitt Romney is Little Barry Obama's white
veritaseequitas Sunday, October 30th at 3:38PM EDT (link)brother. He has a smooth delivery until he gets excited about something and then he starts jibber jabbering and laughing too much. Little Barry has a smooth delivery until you take his teleprompter away from him and then he can’t pull a thought out of that empty head of his.
Rick Perry does best in a one on one situation although in the Chris Wallace interview you could see a point when Perry seemed to momentarily lose his train of thought. He needs to work on not getting distracted.
And the American voters need to get over their obsession with the smooth talker with nothing to back it all up. Our country won’t survive another 4 years of that crap.
Perry is right about the fact that you have to look at what a candidate has accomplished, and put that together with what they have planned for the future.
Here is what Obama has planned
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 3:45PM EDT (link)OWS 2011
OYH 2013
OYH = Occupy Your Home
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I'll watch the Perry/Wallace interview again
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:11PM EDT (link)at 6. I watched it this morning, and I don’t remember seeing any times when he was distracted. At times Perry hesitates between his words, but it would seem that he is trying to formulate his words rather than to just run on with his mouth. I’ll watch again to see if I see your point.
Romney folded
Michael_Handley Sunday, October 30th at 3:54PM EDT (link)during the last campaign and I can see where this might happen again. The voters just don’t identify with him. Perry would make a good President but he just doesn’t express himself well during debates. Mr. Cain seems to be able to identify with the people and he is a good debater. He also has a business record that stands up well under the bright lights. I would like to see him debate Obama. His big test will be who he chooses for his Vice Presidential running mate. I would like to see him pick someone like Gringich, so shore up his Foreign Policy creds….
Handley nails Mitt the quitter. Yes, he did fold it in TOO EARLY
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:37PM EDT (link)He could have done better in SC and other states. Plus, he wore out his welcome in Iowa last time. But Mitt won’t quit until after Fla if ever this time.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
I think
txpat Sunday, October 30th at 4:48PM EDT (link)He would pick Romney as his VP.
He thinks highly of Romney, and made positive comments about Romney.
Romney would accept because it would be his chance to be President if Cain was unable to complete his duties as President.
I know this is Romneyhate.com, but...
bloodshy Sunday, October 30th at 3:56PM EDT (link)…don’t you think it just a little hypocritical to defend Perry’s decision to avoid debates completely (after getting decimated in them several times) and then attack Mitt a few days later for choosing a strategy that includes very few interviews (a strategy Perry’s been running since entry)?
Also, the blogosphere is going crazy today w/Perry’s NH speech on Friday, in which Perry is clearly intoxicated or bi-polar. Yet it’s not on Redstate yet… what a shocker.
In case you’d like to watch: h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4gz97Y9W8&feature=player_embedded
Look, bloodshy, if you're going to spam the video..
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:02PM EDT (link)at least figure out how to make it linkable. There’s instructions on how to embed it all over the place.
As for the debates, I’ve said before that there are too many and they are a lousy format. Further, while Perry has said he’s thinking about it, he hasn’t actually announced that he’s skipping *any* so far.
I hate to say this but .. it’s very Romney-like to try to twist facts like that.
Mew
p.s. okay, I lied .. I rather enjoyed saying that.
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Cancel Not Skip
sethellis Sunday, October 30th at 6:26PM EDT (link)I agree that there’s just too many debates. I enjoyed the ones we’ve had so far, but I was shocked to learn how many more are scheduled. Nobody should skip any of the debates, and it was dumb for Perry to suggest such a thing. However, maybe we should cancel a few of them.
Imagine you're a candidate. How do you go about...
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 6:56PM EDT (link)getting a debate cancelled?
That’s something that they really can’t control.
I don’t think Perry is wrong on this. I don’t see what else he really could do ..
Mew
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Apparently Perry has second thoughts.
Michael_Handley Sunday, October 30th at 4:02PM EDT (link)i just saw him say he will be in about 8 debates…
And there's about a dozen left, so .. 66%.
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:25PM EDT (link)Oh, and I’d like a cite for where he said it, please.
Mew
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There are too many, but given Perry's recent history and current place in the polls, it is risky for him to skip
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:40PM EDT (link)any debates. That doesn’t mean he can’t make a comeback either way and let’s be clear, GC wants Perry to do well. I want the race to come down to Cain v Perry ASAP.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Do not spambot, bloodshy.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:19PM EDT (link)The manual kind is as offensive as the automatic kind, and we’re under no obligation to tolerate it.
Do you understand me? Indicate in your next comment that you understand me.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
Comical Threats.
bloodshy Sunday, October 30th at 5:20PM EDT (link)I rarely come to Redstate — though I used to be a frequent visitor.
And I never spam. Anywhere. I posted 1 (count them… 1) web address to a youtube vid, which was secondary to a substantive critique about this site’s increasingly philosophy-less Romney bash.
And as a result I get a ban threat? Seriously… talk about thought police. You Redstate folks really don’t tolerate diversity of thought. However, since I’m now on ban alert for my pro-Romney commentary, I’ll make sure to avoid posting anything that resembles another website–especially if it’s not hatefully anti-Romney.
No need to worry. I’ve been silenced.
Have a problem counting to two?
Bill S (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:32PM EDT (link)because that was the SECOND time you posted the same link (two, get it?) in a six minute period. That was a pre-emptive promise (not a threat) that you would be whacked if you did it again.
We don’t owe anyone the right to display “diversity of thought”. This ain’t public property – we let you post here at our pleasure. Don’t like it? Don’t come back.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
No, *now* you've been silenced.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:40PM EDT (link)I’m ruling that understanding has not been achieved.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
GC.com does not hate Romney. He was my 1 or 2 choice in 2008 and is number
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:42PM EDT (link)5 now. I only “hate” those that are worse than number 5 billion. smile
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
We really need Mike Huckabee to get into this race
texasconserv (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:12PM EDT (link)Huckabee is not afraid to talk with any journalist. He consistently answers any question that is asked of him.
Seems like the moneymen of the GOP backed the wrong guy again.
Or maybe they feel that they can get Romney to do their bidding since he lacks both courage and convictions.
Why do we need Huckabee?
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:28PM EDT (link)Herman Cain and Rick Perry are both doing the tax-code boogie.
Santorum has the religious-right angle nailed down.
Do you think we need someone who can play guitar?
Mew
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Speaking of the tax code boggie
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:36PM EDT (link)I just saw Santorum on CNN saying that he would cut the corporate tax code to 0. He said he would allow the repatriation of manufacturing dollars earned out of country to come back in at 0 tax also. This, after I’m hearing all of the CNN people saying that all of the GOP tax plans are only politics, and nothing more. They are, as usual, against any tax cuts at all. The CNN money hose said that the flat tax plan has never worked in any country wherever it has been tried. I thought I read that there are many countries that have gone to the flat tax successfully.
I used to like Huck
center77 (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 4:55PM EDT (link)until he showed he is just like Romney in the sense its all about him. He does not like Perry because Perry did not endorse him, so what, Huck signed the same in-state law but he had the nerve to say something bad about Perry doing it. Huck has shown to be a slime ball this whole election season. He did not want to run because he wanted money, and now he wants Republicans to lose so he can talk about Obama for the next four years. After that, he may run, but by then I will already lost all respect for him,. Suddenly he is ok with Romney faith, what a garbage bag.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Me too
windwaker24 Sunday, October 30th at 6:58PM EDT (link)I voted for him in 2008 and was disappointed when he announced he wasn’t running. Based on his current behavior, I’m glad he is not in the race. I can barely stand the guy now. I see now he is just an opportunist.
Completely agree with both of you, here.
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 9:17PM EDT (link)I was sorely disappointed when he revealed his true self.
Now, I can’t watch him without comparing him to…………no, I won’t say it. Not kind.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
Perry's unexpected mention and other things
KBDay (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:16PM EDT (link)I watched the interview and took notes for a column about it.
Perry did very well–his ideas should resonate with anyone who wants government downsized and our energy sector retooled.
One thing I noticed. Perry mentioned Sen. Coburn’s excellent Back in Black plan. I’ve written about that plan. It’s the best idea I’ve seen for reducing debt. No other candidate appears to know the plan exists and of course Obama wouldn’t mention it if you kidnapped his golf clubs and demanded he acknowledge it as ransom.
Perry got his game back on in my opinion. He handled Wallace very well and he stuck to his policy points. He didn’t take bait on bashing other candidates and the postcard tax return is something I personally would love.
Wallace missed a couple things. He should’ve pointed out, in criticizing Perry’s plan, information from Brookings (it was misspelled on the screen as ‘Bookings.’)
Many of us consider Brookings as a left-leaner nowadays regardless of their past or their claims to nonpartisan ideology.
I’d also like to see Perry expand on something most Americans miss. Federal revenue must be reduced or the government will continue to grow and liberty and wealth will continue to be reduced.
I give Perry a gold star for his engagement with Wallace and I believe the governor will soon see some positive impact in the polls. Perry was himself during that interview and that is what we need to see in these often banal debates.
KB Day/The US Report
“Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.” (Eisenhower)
LOL, love the gold club comment
center77 (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:23PM EDT (link)I to have read a lot about that plan. I have a blog of my own, plus write for another blog that is well known, but not as big or as well put together as Red State. I’d like to write for Red State, and I see this diary thing. I am not really sure how someone writes one though. I like too if someone can let me in on the secret.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
There's supposed to some kind of button on the left(?) side of your logout (I think). But, I don't have one.......
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 9:20PM EDT (link)Glad it’s not just me in the dark. I was beginning to think that everyone else but me had some kind of talent I don’t have to know how to do this.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
I'm not sure ava,
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:28PM EDT (link)but I think you have to hit the contact link and request to write one.
It changed with the new upgrade.
To many spam diaries were being published, so they changed it.
Anyone remember ugg boots.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
avagreen and center77...
westcoastpatriette (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:33PM EDT (link)Unless it has changed, the way to request a diary is to click on your profile (your screen name) and you will see an “edit” icon to the right of your name. Click on edit and click on “request a diary” on the left side of the next page.
Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3
That I didn't know.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:41PM EDT (link)I guess that makes us even, thanks.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
thanks, westcoast and gekster, but apparenlty it's changed. I had alread tried the "edit" button on my profile.
avagreen Monday, October 31st at 2:30PM EDT (link)This is what I get:
“You attempted to access the “RedState” dashboard, but you do not currently have privileges on this site. If you believe you should be able to access the “RedState” dashboard, please contact your network administrator.”
gekster, I’ve also contacted the administrator or whoever in on the contact email…….two to three times now. No response. At all. It’s been weeks since my first email, the second one last week. :/
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
Another suggestion ava.
gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 2:40PM EDT (link)Write your diary, and send that into the contact page along with your rquest to publish it.
If that doesn’t work, then the only thing I can think of is a direct appeal to a moderator on an open thread.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Back in Black
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:41AM EDT (link)What is back in Black? I never heard of it.
Fed Up resonates with dr. bob and me.
uh, Guzzardi...
rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:20AM EDT (link)Google it!
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/?p=deficit-reduction
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
The Back in Black Plan
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 7:33AM EDT (link)thanks dr. bob
Mitt Romney is something else
center77 (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 5:20PM EDT (link)I cannot for the life of me see why even the moderates in the party feel this guy should take on Obama or be president for that matter. If I was the establishment, I’d push for Huntsman, at least he is a consistent moderate with many conservative traits. Now I have watched Fox News push Romney for awhile, and I feel they pushed Cain to help Romney. Maybe they are seeing the folly in that position. Cain has been doing one giant self promotional trek across America, and has turned into a diva much in the mold of Palin and Bachmann. He is making money of his book sales, even to the point of using campaign contributions to buy books from his own company. I do not care so much, but his actions are helping the establishment get Romney nominated. There is a reason Cain has not even really tried to build a true organization in early states, because he seems to care more about being known that beating Romney. Since Romney and Obama are not much different, I’d say it important to beat both of them, and I do not think Cain gets us there. Its sad, sad indeed.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Romney
Lucas Black Sunday, October 30th at 5:53PM EDT (link)I don’t know why Romney is not going on the Sunday shows. He’s not bad at them – does he think that people don’t know that he flip-flops? At least going on those shows will give him the chance to explain his reasons for changing positions.
As for Perry, I did watch him. Wasn’t impressed in either a good or bad way, he was just…meh. I don’t think it will change anybody’s mind either way. Not sure why he had to hold it in a setting that screamed ‘Texas’ – he needs to get over that; he’s running for President of the US, not of the Republic of Texas.
But I very much agree – Romney needs to get on the morning shows. In fact, he should do several of them.
It is where he is from
center77 (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 6:56PM EDT (link)and since much of his appeal comes from the fact he accomplished a bunch of conservative things in Texas, he would want people to understand that what he wants to do is not just more political theater, you know how Obama had not really accomplished anything, you know how Romney is running from his time as governor of a blue state, and how Cain is absolutely out of his league. I find it funny after listening to Republicans say Obama was not ready for four year including the 2008 campaign, that they would not put as much more emphasis on record. Do we really want to take a chance on saving this country from the socialist agenda of the Democrats by nominating a socialist lite or a zero experienced candidate like Cain. I have not seen Cain or Romney stick up for anything they have said or done, except Romney when he talk about Romney Care. Perry is not running from his record, he is proud of it, and he should be.
I find it funny the things Romneybot and Candibots get upset at Perry over, but I think Perry said it best when he said that there are people on that stage that would do or say anything to not have to talk about their record. The shallowness of this primary process is striking, because I know as a conservative, I put much more value on plans and record than I do some American idol type debate. I’ve never like the way the moderators try and make people fight, and the gang up on Perry was very lame, but when he fights back, the Romney people call him a bully. Talk about being weak. Being able to debate is not what will help Obama win, having a candidate that is thin skinned and weak will, and Perry has shown he is neither of those.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
I'm
Lucas Black Sunday, October 30th at 8:33PM EDT (link)I’m a Newtbot, but I know I haven’t been the only one who think that Perry is over-emphasizing Texas. I’ve heard Perry supporters say it as well. I’m not suggesting he run from his record, but that he might want to stop wrapping himself in the Lone Star flag.
his FNC-interview was far-reaching...
rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:42AM EDT (link)…although he properly documented his assertions by citing his [Texas] record.
He was strident, and comfortable when confronted with his prior support of Nuke-energy [which, as it developed, couldn't emerge as a gotcha-query].
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
I've got an easy reason to shrug this off
Thomas_Alan Sunday, October 30th at 6:57PM EDT (link)Romney’s gonna appear on 2 or 3 of these Sunday shows in the next couple of months. It will happen whether the hosts are whining or not (and frankly I’m sick of talk show hosts thinking they’re entitled to it).
Now, whether he’ll show up with Wallace might have taken a hit today when they gave some misleading videos between whether Romney personally thought man made global warming was real and his position on cap and trade and called it a flip flop.
Romney’s always been unambiguously against cap and trade. Fox News should be ashamed on that one.
But Romney was for Global Warming before he was against it.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:14PM EDT (link)No more than last June he was for it.
It is a perfecly legit story.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Not Really
Thomas_Alan Sunday, October 30th at 10:43PM EDT (link)For it to be legit, the person needs to be talking about the same thing. Not similar things that can be made to look different. In the 2nd clip Fox Sunday showed this morning, Romney was clearly talking about cap and trade and other draconian measures. If Fox were being fair and balanced, they would have pointed out that Romney has always been against Cap and Trade and other such measures. Nothing there has changed and his opinion on why such measures aren’t prudent don’t conflict with his belief on global warming.
If you look at Romney’s position on global warming itself, it’s also been consistent, if somewhat agnostic. He’s said several times that he believes that warming is occurring. He’s open to the idea that humans cause it. He doesn’t know if humans’ contribution to it is large or small (which dovetails into the “we don’t know” clip Fox showed). As a matter of policy, he rejects draconian measures, but is happy to look into reducing emissions other ways (technologies and such).
I think the reason he’s getting hit on this isn’t because he’s on both sides, it’s because people have set up a false dichotomy. You can believe that humans are contributing to global warming but think that wrecking the economy while not making an actual dent in CO2 levels is pretty damned stupid. It’s actually my position on the subject.
so which of these positions is Romney holding to.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:15PM EDT (link)I know where it’s from, but these are Romnys’ words, 5 months apart.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
I Repeat
Thomas_Alan Sunday, October 30th at 11:33PM EDT (link)There’s not as much difference between those two statements as you want to believe. I can basically copy and paste my above comment, and it still holds.
Romney’s always been against cap and trade. He’s always been a nominal believer in global warming. It wouldn’t surprise me if the first part of the video got cut off just before Romney put in his customary “don’t know if humans contribute a little or a lot” modifier in.
It certainly can’t be said that he was giving a full-voiced backing to the Church of Climate Change at any point.
Spin it anyway you want.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:43PM EDT (link)Those are Romneys’ words, and regardless of any stance on cap and trade,
it still comes down to:
I was for it before I was against it.
Period.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Sorry, you're spinning
Thomas_Alan Monday, October 31st at 12:03AM EDT (link)Romney’s been consistent here. Next week he’ll say the same thing he’s always said and you’ll accuse him of flipping again, but it’s only in your head because you want to believe it.
Romney’s position is and always remains the same. Romney’s not a scientist, but believes warming is happening, maybe/believes caused by humans at an unknown level. Not worth doing cap and trade over.
The second part of the video does not contradict that. As much as you WANT it to, there is no contradiction.
So let me get this straight.
gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:21AM EDT (link)First he say, in his words,
“I believe the world is getting warmer, I can’t prove that, based on what I read the world is getting warmer.
And number two, I believe humans contribute to that”.
Then he says,
“My view is, we don’t know, what’s causing climate change, on this planet”.
Well, first he says humans contribute to climate change, then he says we don’t know.
That is Romney spinning, not me.
You have to love a guy with a backbone like that.
You are so blinded, you won’t see what’s right in front of your face.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
You're still mixing two separate issues
Thomas_Alan Monday, October 31st at 12:53AM EDT (link)Just look at the first quote you’ve got there. There is absolutely no conviction behind it. It’s a lightly held belief. Not in a flip-flop sort of way, but in a “I don’t know for sure, but you asked for my opinion and here it is” sort of way. It’s a standard consistent answer from him, and like I said usually chased with a line saying that he flat out doesn’t know if humans contribute a little or a lot.
Nothing in the video, from his body language, to his parsed words (“I’m not a scientist”), to his tone indicate a person who is confident which side of the argument is correct.
In the second quote Romney’s basically saying that what we know isn’t enough to build a multi-trillion dollar policy around. Also a standard and consistent message.
In that, he’s strong and unambiguous.
Do you believe it’s automatically a contradiction that someone could lightly believe something, but not believe it enough to toss his country’s future into the crapper over?
Keep spinning and you'll get dizzy.
gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:57AM EDT (link)Your Romneymania has a death grip on you.
Get over it.
But I know you wont.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Once again, the only one spinning is you
Thomas_Alan Monday, October 31st at 1:09AM EDT (link)Been debunking false accusations of flip flops for years. It’s actually pretty easy since most of them are, like this, built on such flimsy foundations.
TA, you resolutely create a unique rhetorical quandry...
rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:49AM EDT (link)…for those who wish to listen critically to the candidates.
What, pray tell, is the difference between “a lightly-held belief” and a statement that serves as the foundation for his basic policy?
Should we expect Mitt to provide a disclaimer each time he speaks, disclosing whether his viewpoint is “a lightly held belief” vs. “a heavily held belief”?
Indeed, would he create gradations that range in-between, such as “a medium held belief”?
Get th point?
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Romney Lightly Held Belief?
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 7:55AM EDT (link)Mitt Romney could say that the existing evidence is insufficient for a public policy of trillions and massive tax give aways.
What would be untrue about that. He says “global warming” because that is the fashion of the Washington-Wall Street Tandem Elites.
You want a candidate whose opinion on every topic is 100% firm?
Thomas_Alan Monday, October 31st at 6:07PM EDT (link)No person’s opinion can be like that. All the candidates have opinions on topics that aren’t particularly strong on one side or the other.
In terms of the policy, Romney’s been firm. Cap and trade has always been a “no” for him.
Frankly, whether global warming is made by humans or not isn’t even all that important except to those who wish to use it as a club.
You got to be dizzy by now.
gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:16PM EDT (link)phillarson, is that you?
What does it tell you about your candidate, .
when you have to constantly make lame excuses for him.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
So...
Thomas_Alan Monday, October 31st at 9:15PM EDT (link)…You’d want a psycho who is 100% sure of every opinion he has, no matter how unimportant to be president?
I’m not making any lame excuses. Romney’s position has been consistent. You’re just looking for an excuse to pull out the Kerry line.
The Blaze Koch funded study
bobguzzardi Monday, October 31st at 6:46AM EDT (link)http://www.theblaze.com/stories/koch-funded-study-changes-prominent-global-warming-skeptic-to-a-believer/
The measures of the warming of the earth seem to have been proven reliable. Ocean temperatures not measured nor the effect of Co2
Climate Change is complicated. I think it is used to bash capitalistic investment in energy exploration rather than as good faith exploration of important issue.
Another thing I picked up from watching the Wallace/Perry interview
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 7:29PM EDT (link)Wallace made a point of bringing up Perry’s new campaign staff members, and pointedly stated that they were very negative with the Scott Walker campaign. Hint hint Wallace, Walker won, get over it. He asked if Perry was going to go negative on Romney (he really really wants Romney no matter how much he is trying to build up Cain as the anti-Perry vote) and Perry said that when you bring out the candidates records, that is the truth, and is not negative campaigning. Good one Perry.
Mitt Romney should fight up, not down
ombd Sunday, October 30th at 8:08PM EDT (link)Why should Mitt care what Chris Wallace says?? His focus, rightly, should be on Obama. Those that don’t like Mitt already are not going to be swayed by a Chris Wallace interview. Although it seems that some of the Obama true believers may have been exposed a bit by this weekend’s snowy October surprise … http://www.ombudizen.com/2011/10/30/heads-i-win-tails-you-lose/
NEWS FLASH!
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:24PM EDT (link)http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html
Exclusive: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cJXxRiu5
This can help Rick immeasurably, just @ the best moment for his rediscovery by the GOP-electorate!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Unseemly
Lucas Black Sunday, October 30th at 8:35PM EDT (link)A bit unseemly to be celebrating this, don’t you think?
I agree, lucasblack nt
westcoastpatriette (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:58PM EDT (link)nt
Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3
truth hurts!
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:33PM EDT (link)Cain denied, but didn’t discuss details, according to scroll.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Extremely. nt
aesthete (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:36PM EDT (link)no text
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Rick who?
Samsara (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:46PM EDT (link)ooooh, sorry.
Rick who?
Samsara (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:46PM EDT (link)ooooh, sorry.
Ha Dr. S- Welcome to the rock story campaign
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:25PM EDT (link)Where eveyrone wants to bring the most sensational accusations against every candidate. The more sensational the stories are against every GOP candidate, the more it makes the stories more non-credible, and that helps Perry with all the sensationalism. I guess that now since Herman is included in the smear campaigns, the more he will understand how wrong he was to participate in those smear campaigns against Perry to begin with. He has been getting more negative as the time goes on. He recently complained because those on that debate stage all ganged up on him, and he had no chance to get his 999 story out there. When has Perry not been ganged up on on the debate stage? I guess Herman really prefers deep dish, and really does have a problem with “thin crust.”
Herman should look at this as as opportunity
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:30PM EDT (link)To be the new spokesman for Viagra…..
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Yeah who cares if it's true
captkirc Sunday, October 30th at 9:46PM EDT (link)If it can help Rick Immeasurably.
To me it's a non issue.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:55PM EDT (link)It could just be someone trying to make a story out of a non story.
Just like the fake story about the bc.
I’ll hold judgement till the facts are out.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Reminds of Clarence Thomas
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:11PM EDT (link)during his nomination hearing. All of a sudden out comes an Anita Hill. There just can not be any black conservative. They will be trashed, bashed and vilified. Sad. And I am not a Cain supporter, but I am for the truth.
CNN is already all over the Cain story
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:40PM EDT (link)Welcome to the front runner status Cain. Just maybe he shouldn’t have run with the Perry rock accusations, huh. Now he is getting a taste of left wing “stories.” Take a lesson Cain.
Two women accused Herman Cain of ....
Samsara (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:32PM EDT (link)FYI
Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html
this one may hurt him
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:43PM EDT (link)It was a back awhile, but who knows. Politico has obviously been sniffin this one several days. He may drop down a few notches if it has legs.
Course if he says yeah, 30 years ago I grabbed a couple girls. It was wrong…I’m sorry. who knows.
Cain The Legend Continues
bzip Sunday, October 30th at 9:01PM EDT (link)Na, he will say he was only joking or he didn’t understand what he was doing
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By the way Cain supporters I am still waiting for some honest answers….
For a guy who has never held elected office, has no governing experience could someone please explain to me why I should vote for Cain over someone that has 10 years of consistent conservative governing experience like Rick Perry?
Could someone explain to me why I should (and all voters) stick their necks out for a guy like Cain?
Why should we possible endanger our country electing a guy that has no experience, no record to look back and see how he would govern?
I am not getting answers and surely no substance either.
If words matter (they are the only way to judge Cain since he has no record) I truly wonder how I am supposed to judge Cain based on what I have heard so far.
Cain was pro-choice or is pro-life
Cain supported TARP
Cain was for an electric fence or not
Cain is for exchanging GITMO prisoners or not
Cain is not for auditing the fed or not
Cain and racial baiting
Cain fellow blacks are brainwashed
Cain’s 999 plan that starts a new national sales tax and VAT.
Cain’s 999 plans that adds empowerment zones (affirmative action).
Not very conservative proposal and surely leads to bigger gov’t.
Help me to understand why you want voters to elect Cain?
The many gaffes and now the many women of Cain
bzip Sunday, October 30th at 8:49PM EDT (link)Well, lets see if the MSM actually dives into this story and vets it the way it should be.
Exclusive: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cJXxRiu5
OK, stop the threadjack, people.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:53PM EDT (link)Diaries are on the side.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
sorry moe, was writing
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:57PM EDT (link)didn’t see your sign till after i posted.
Sorry, me neither. :/
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 9:02PM EDT (link)^^
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
the left can't go there, but who would go there on the right?
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 8:56PM EDT (link)The left doesn’t have a leg to stand on .
Two Words –Monica Lewinsky
Now the right, Newt?? um no. Bachmann?? can’t see it. Santorum possibly. Glad its out now. Lets see where the damage goes.
His response WAS NOT good.
avagreen Sunday, October 30th at 9:01PM EDT (link)Taking a deep breath and throwing the same question back at the reporter.
He breathed audibly, glared at the reporter and stayed silent for several seconds. After the question was repeated three times,/strong> he responded by asking the reporter, “Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment?”
I quit a job after just two instances of sexual harrassment by my boss, that I found later had a history of harrassment to the point of being kicked out of AA program in another city. When I told him that i was quitting, he became so angry I thought he was going to hit me…..which I found out later he had a history of doing to women who turned him down (Iranian).
I find this to be a disturbing report about, and most especially his reaction to it……the glaring and silence. Not good.
The boss was later fired because of his continued harrassment and firing of a female employee who also twarted his advances. Ended up in a court case.
So, this IS NOT a simple little matter at all, IMHO. I’m tired of victims being blamed when a famous person is involved.
At the least this needs to be thoroughly investigated. But, I’m still disturbed by Cain’s reaction. As a licensed professional working in the field of human behavior, that response screams “guilt”.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
He's in the Mittness Protection Program.
SoFiMil (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:30PM EDT (link)Romney’s strategy the entire campaign is to be an empty suit, stay out of sight, create a sense of inevitability, and be the last candidate standing,
Refuses to ask hypotheticals posed to him in debates. Criticizes others, but never takes a stand on anything himself. Wimpers and cries when ever someone says something negative about him. Don’t bother him when he’s eating a waffle. Likes to vote present. Whenever he’s called on his flips he says, “Let me be perfectly clear. I’ve always been strongly for/against (fill in the blank). Writes a book that’s published as a hardback and a paperback. It’s different. No it’s the same.
Definitely reminds me of someone else that I want to forget beginning January 21, 2013.
For or against a flat test, Mitt? Guess you’re still waiting for the polling and how to wordsmith that one.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
He's not for the phone bankers (even though he's there), wait, he's for the phone bankers.
SoFiMil (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 9:34PM EDT (link)Obama mirror:
I promise to put on my walkin’ shoes and march with you….
…Wisconsin has no sightings of Obama.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
FLASH: Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal
thesaint Sunday, October 30th at 9:58PM EDT (link)Real disturbing story:
h ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html.
I feel terrible for his family.
Oh my, such EMPATHY.
barry915barry (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:03PM EDT (link)Exit, stage left.
Blow to Cain candidacy. Big plus for Romney
nepanyrush Sunday, October 30th at 10:06PM EDT (link)I really like Cain, but his attempt to stonewall this charge and the fact that there were settlements would be a major blow to his campaign. When Schwarzenegger was hit by charges, it was too little too late ()and it was California), but this is the Republican primary and would cost Cain dearly.
The one person who I do not think they will ever find anything of a personal nature is Romney. I have never heard anything about he or his family. I have heard that some magazine is offering money for stories about Perry when he was a college student, so I hope there is nothing embarrassing going to come out there. The last minute, ridiculous story about Bush’s DUI from two or three decades, and released days before the 200 election, almost cost him the election. You just know that Obama, despite his past, will use anything he can get to run his negative campaign.
Oh great just what I want to vote for
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:13PM EDT (link)A squeaky clean flip-flopping liar
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
What a sickoo comment
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:16PM EDT (link)just to promote your asshat Romney. You are not for truth, you are for Romney no matter what. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if Romney wasn’t behind this horrible smear. He’s been known to do the dirty in the past. I am not a Cain supporter, but I would never promote another candidate over these obvious smears. Sick. Sick. Sick.
This is why we have to
center77 (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:22PM EDT (link)wait before we try to run Cain in the gen election, because these types of things get hashed out over time, but when they service while the candidate is doing well, they hurt big time. Romney has destroyed his chances by his recent flip flops, Hume of all people said he reached his limit.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
hume said he had EXCEEDED his limit
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:32PM EDT (link)on FNC, today
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
They don't have to find anything on Romney.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:21PM EDT (link)They’ve got……
Romney.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
thesaint- No you don't
Scope (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:19PM EDT (link)and anyone who glories in unproven stories is unacceptable to most conservatives. It is being waged on all GOP candidates.
0-2 on your posts. Thanks for Driving by.
barry915barry (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:00PM EDT (link)nt.
I CONFESS!
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:47PM EDT (link)Yes, it is true that my initial “commentary” was to link Cain’s loss to Rick’s potential gain…
“This can help Rick immeasurably, just @ the best moment for his rediscovery by the GOP-electorate!”
…but, frankly, I remain unapologetic!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
@ the risk of committing a "Kowalski"...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 10:57PM EDT (link)…I would candidly express emotional response to the unfairness of Cain’s rise [absent substance, coupled with multiple-errors] as the potential anti-Romney.
Furthermore, having just learned of the concept of “threadjacking”…
I would just share a comparable emotion while watching the Eagles now having attained a 34-0 lead over the ["hated"] Cowboys: JUSTICE shall PREVAIL.
Look, Rick has been victimized by tangential/refuted attacks for TWO MONTHS and it is understandable that his adherents would react in this fashion when the guy who REFLEXLY refused to accept him as a running-mate [after the "N"-rock story broke, prior to its assessment] is being hoisted by his own petard.
I have expended considerable energy analyzing/extolling Rick [documenting everything] and becoming dismayed by the Teflon-finish that Cain has enjoyed throughout [after multiple/huge gaffes]. So, as the new week starts, let’s see if Rick’s hard work [manifest on FNC today, corroborated by multiple viewings] will become manifest in the polls….
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
follow-up
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:05PM EDT (link)It appears that Politico [and byron York] has become – initially – a repository for the dissemination of data regarding the Cain Campaign [non-]Reaction.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67200.html
Thus far, even when reviewing the comments added thereafter, it seems the story both has legs and has not been substantially denied.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Why would any Republican candidate agree to these shows?
omegamale Sunday, October 30th at 11:06PM EDT (link)We saw Herman Cain just get reamed for a political ad because someone was smoking a cigarette. How many times has CBS brought up Obama being a smoker?
These shows are simply a bloodsport where the contest is to try and catch the Republican candidate with a bad soundbite about obscure points that no real voter cares about. That is considered a successful interview, like when Katie Couric caught Palin in a bad moment when she asked her what magazines she read. Did any voter really care what magazines or newspapers she read? Of course not, but the goal was to make Palin look slow by peppering her with enough nonsense questions that eventually they would get a deer in the headlight moment.
They don’t question Democrats this way, you would never see them take this sort of tone with Obama, but now we have Republicans denigrating other Republicans for not agreeing to play this ridiculous farce.
Most of the questions asked are more about the horse race of the campaign or some obscure question like their thoughts on the morality of homosexuality or the belief in evolution. The goal is to make the candidate look bad, not get real answers on policy questions.
I REALLY hate this video; mostly because it makes me feel kind of inadequate.
In Fairness
Thomas_Alan Sunday, October 30th at 11:08PM EDT (link)They had the guy smoke in order to create buzz, so Cain shouldn’t be surprised if people start asking about it.
Also, let’s be honest, that video was just horrid.
The dollars-to-eyeballs ratio is very, very high...
acat (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:14PM EDT (link)It’s a little like sitting through the high pressure timeshare sales pitch to get the free steak dinner… the candidate just has to stay on message (and hope their skeletons all stay buried) for an hour or two, and they get a ton of free publicity among both likely voters and the people who, among their peer groups, tend to influence political thought.
Romney can’t afford to do these shows. He’d have to actually decide what his message, and his positions are… and he’s hoping to avoid that as long as possible.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
as an anti-tobacco activist since the 1970's...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:21PM EDT (link)…I can provide a bit of clarity regarding the alleged discrepancy between tobacco-[ab]use as manifest by Cain vs. BHO.
This is easily recognized as from nicotine-addiction, and it is said that BHO has [finally] quit. Thus, the lack of MSM/LSM coverage of his conduct is understandable, for his conduct was not necessarily under his conscious control.
The Cain ad, in comparison, represents a conscious promotion of how smoking can be equated with a positive trait, independence and/or unorthodox/quirky conduct. Either way, Cain is promoting Public Health Enemy #1. Particularly when one would expect an ad to promote a policy-position, such an aberration would be subject to [my] condemnation were Rick to exhibit it.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
précis of initial blogging...
rsklaroff (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:35PM EDT (link)…is basically non-substantive.
During the past 2 1/2 hours , the site hosting Byron York has provided two substantive take-home messages; one was the reflex attack on the MSM/LSM ["shoot the messenger" a la Anita Hill] and the other was the potentially-realistic reaction to pay-off an accuser to make-the-case-go-away [particularly when the $-total is only within 5-digits].
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/cain-responds-sex-harassment-allegation
During the past 2 hours, the politico site has only partisan-themed reactions.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67200.html
THEREFORE, realistically, more data will undoubtedly emerge @ the National Press Club tomorrow [@ a speech sponsored by the AEI]…but I don’t think a non-denial “denial” will assuage the social conservatives who have undoubted;y constituted the backbone of his polling-surge.
BUT ALSO, realistically, one would anticipate that Rick’s hard work will be rewarded [as people "come home" after having sent Rick a message that no one can be taken for granted].
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
rsklaroff--I don't think you understand what threadjacking means.
westcoastpatriette (Diary) Sunday, October 30th at 11:40PM EDT (link)You are continuing to do it by commenting on this diary which has nothing to do with the Cain drama.
There are several other diaries–particularly a new one just put out by Erick that is germane to the topic. You should post any further comments re Cain there.
Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp. Psalm 149:1-3
when i initiated this effort...
rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:08AM EDT (link)…EE hadn’t opened his narrative.
Thus, I have “moved” commentary to that site.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Chris the Irrelevant
drfredc Monday, October 31st at 1:14AM EDT (link)It seems if it were really left up to Chris Wallace, the entire interview of any GOP candidate would be about stuff like did you trim your nose hairs this morning?
Sorry folks, Chris Wallace has ruined the Fox Sunday for me. His interviews of GOP are basically reciting a litany of liberal left wing bumper sticker mantra questions in hopes of watching the GOP interviewee squirm or at least say something against a fellow GOP candidate.
OK. it’s true, Chris does a quality job showing how many of the GOP LOSERShip are pretty weak about defending their conservative republican positions — like that’s news?
What really sets Chris Wallace apart from many fellow liberal Sunday hosts is how he has developed his interviewing style into an art form of how to get GOP candidates to waste as much time as possible talking about relatively irrelevant Wallacesonian irrelevancies.
Always, Fred C
well..
capitalistpig Monday, October 31st at 5:11AM EDT (link)Perry handled Wallace pretty well,and didnt let Wallace back him in a corner because Perry wasnt having it.I dont see why “smooth debater “Mitt would have any problem.So far,the interviwers have been soft on Mitt ,its time for his turn to be put through the grinder.
Governor Gary Johnson
kushibo Tuesday, November 1st at 4:25PM EDT (link)Chris Wallace says his program has interviewed “all the major Republican candidates.”
Have they interviewed former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson? If so, when? I tried to Google it but there’s a flood of just ticker stories (e.g., AP, etc.) from the Fox News site on Governor Johnson that I can’t find it if it’s there.
Governor Gary Johnson
aesthete (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 4:28PM EDT (link)is not a major contender for the Republican nomination, unfortunately.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke