[Update: I swear that I was going to leave this in diaries - but, given the agitation that it's sparked on my other site, I'm thinking that it really needs to be fronted after all. - ML]
(HT: Hot Air Headlines) Herman Cain will not even come close to winning Iowa. This is the takeaway passage from the article that Team Cain needs to read and address right now.
Cain last visited Iowa on Oct. 22, and Tuel said the next time he expects the candidate back in the state is Nov. 19. Tuel also noted that plans are in the works for an early December bus tour through the state, much like the one Cain took ahead of the August Ames Straw Poll. Campaign sources said the tour might include a “mega town hall meeting,” with thousands in attendance.
During a lunchtime visit this week to Cain’s headquarters, located in a shopping center in the Des Moines suburb of Urbandale, reporters from ABC News found about a dozen volunteers telephoning potential supporters, many of them older Iowans. When ABC returned in the evening — a time when local campaign offices would usually be packed with an after-work crowd — only two volunteers remained in the office. They said that others were at home making placards for Friday night’s Iowa Republican Party Dinner, which Cain does not plan to attend.
ABC News visited the same campaign headquarters last month and found the office quiet and empty.
That passage represents a kindly ABC News writer/editor team – yes, they do exist – coming as close as they dare to frantically waving off the campaign while screaming “DANGER! DANGER, HERMAN CAIN!” Because you can talk about national campaigns and moneybombs and heck, even polling all you like: but if you’re not currently being forced to squeeze volunteers into your campaign offices any which way then you’re doing it wrong.
Let me explain. In 2004, Howard Dean had money. Howard Dean had polls. Howard Dean had a national campaign going. What Howard Dean did not have was a functional Iowa organization designed to bring people to the precinct polling stations and keep them there for up to two hours, which is why he came in third place. And to forestall the immediate objection: in 2003 Dean supporters were more than happy to explain why the lack of a ground organization didn’t matter, too. Up to the the moment where Dean lost.
Free advice for Team Cain: in that article Cain’s Iowa campaign manager says “Of course Mr. Cain cannot move to Iowa any more than he can move to New Hampshire or South Carolina, and he’s got a busy schedule.” I suggest that they convince the candidate to abandon that Of course and get him to Iowa for the next two months. Because if Cain loses Iowa at this point it is going to have an impact infinitely worse than if he had never been expected to win Iowa in the first place.
Moe Lane (crosspost)
PS: What? Oh, yes, the system is absurd. Particularly the expectations that Iowan voters have with regard to Presidential candidates.
(pause)
…And?
Jeff Emanuel
Herman Cain doesn't need a ground game in Iowa
clintonformccain Saturday, November 5th at 12:44PM EDT (link)Herman Cain is The One.
Spoken like a true Sarah Palin supporter...
acat (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:02PM EDT (link)Didn’t she also “not need a ground game” because “her supporters will come together spontaneously” ?
Mew
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acat, I think clintonformccain was being sarcastic.
Xasteius (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:11PM EDT (link)At least given his/her posting record.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Let's hope so, Xasteius...
acat (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:15PM EDT (link)Let’s hope so.
Mew
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It's too funny not to be sarcasm
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:33PM EDT (link)He compared him to Obama for crying out loud.
You must be tired, acat. Cats are the kings of the sarcasm jungle.
Acat... yes CFM was being sarcastic...
onemovoter (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 3:02PM EDT (link)I’ve seen other posts and pretty sure they are a Perry supporter.. but using an Obama reference just ensures the thick layer of irony.
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do.”- Benjamin Franklin
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”- Will Rogers
Just to clarify
clintonformccain Saturday, November 5th at 7:01PM EDT (link)I am a supporter of the Republicans nominating a serious, credible, experienced candidate, who passes the Commander-in-Chief threshold, and will beat the pants of Obama in November 2012. I don’t really have a dog in the hunt, other than wanting a strong candidate. None of them are going to be exactly my cup of tea.
I think Perry is a potential player because he has 10 years of experience as an effective governor of a large state. I think Romeny is player because of his campaign experience and all-things-to-all-people ability to attract independents. I’m not sure which would be the strongest opponent for Obama, yet. I am sure that it’s not Herman Cain, who I view as a joke candidate.
Don't you believe in miracles, acat?
redmymind (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:15PM EDT (link)That said, good point!
Implications of this diary on Iowa
paulplantowin Saturday, November 5th at 1:27PM EDT (link)Thx for the insights. I will have to take your word for it that Iowa and other early states require massive money and organization (no sarcasm – i really did not/do not know these ins and outs of primaries)
But if true I begin to see WHY the RINO’s and establishment types get to pick our candidates. They control the big donors and the expertise, the endorsements, etc.
This seems to me to make it virtually impossible for a conservative ‘outsider’ like Palin or Cain or ANYONE to upset the RINO applecart.
Wow – doom.
Please tell me I am wrong on this. Dole – McCain – Romney as far as the eye can see? No hope for conservative outsider? Ever?
Reagan happened and will happen again
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:35PM EDT (link)His name is Marco Rubio.
Reagan won in 1980 because he started running in 1974.
acat (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:43PM EDT (link)When he lost in 1976 (to Gerald Ford, who lost to Jimmy Carter…) Reagan kept running. He wrote editorials, he gave speeches and lectures, he kept his name in the news so when 1980 rolled around, he was the presumptive conservative nominee.
The 1980 election is notable, by the way, because there were far more RINOs than Conservatives in the mix .. unlike 2012 (and 2008 and 2000 etc.) when the RINOs consolidate early and the conservatives are defeated in packets.
There are parallels to Palin, who has stayed in the news but who decided not to run.
There are parallels to Romney, who never stopped campaigning after 2008 and who entered 2012 as the presumptive front runner.
Yes, Rubio looks good. So do Pence and Jindal and several others. We (Conservatives) have a very good bench, for a change.
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555!
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:35PM EDT (link)so true.
but the clock is running out
wbb1950 Saturday, November 5th at 7:55PM EDT (link)By 2016 it will be too late. Having a good bench is no help if they never take the field until after the game is over. Here are the stakes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/LdTyUvY66Mw?version=3
I want him to win re-election first, though.
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:15PM EDT (link)Actually, what I want is two Senate terms and a stint at FL-GOV from Rubio, but people snarl at me when I suggest that they have to wait until at least 2026.
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jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:21PM EDT (link)Fate requires a path to getting there, and there’s no being Reagan without executive experience.
jackofalltrades -Which is exactly why
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:18PM EDT (link)the leftists have to get it out there now that he isn’t qualified to be president because he isn’t a natural born citizen. I was was unaware that he was created in a lab, rather than born in a hospital in Miami.
The Supreme Court has never ruled on a case
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:25PM EDT (link)of a presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen, so anything they’ve said on that subject is non-binding dicta. Don’t believe anyone who says there’s precedent – there isn’t.
However, if we’re going with the strict interpretation of natural born (both parents must be citizens at time of birth), then Obama wasn’t eligible either, even though he was born in Hawaii.
Can you imagine the Supreme Court saying Obama was not eligible? They would NEVER do that. They’ll just go with “born in the USA” as the definition.
So, Rubio’s eligible, because Obama is.
And if you make the objection
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:29PM EDT (link)that “natural” in “natural born” means nothing, well, so does of freedom of the press, since everything they can do is summed up in the freedom of speech.
Not everything in the Constitution actually means something, but it’s rare.
jackofalltrades
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:48PM EDT (link)When the Rubio eligibility question originally came up a few months ago, I tried my best to research the deal. I came to the same conclusion in that the SC never did answer that specific question, but has only touched on citizenship issues with respect to government benefit eligibility? I think that’s one of the cases I read about.
I remember reading some long convoluted explanation that at the time of Rubio’s parents births in Cuba, in the 40′s, that Cuba was still a US protectorate, and that Cuba fought along side the US in some battle, which afforded the Rubio’s a dual citizenship. Don’t know if that’s true.
I also agree that with Obama as the president, with a father that was not a US citizen, the issue would be moot in Rubio’s case.
Romney not a "natural born citizen."
streiff (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 4:12PM EDT (link)If the silliness being inflicted upon Rubio is true then Romney isn’t a natural born citizen either.
Though Mitt was born in the US his father was born in Mexico to a naturalized Mexican citizen.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
And McCain wasn't eligible either…
vaaztx Sunday, November 6th at 1:14AM EDT (link)as he was born in Panama not the United States.
Over-interpreting stuff makes you silly.
I believe Jesus phrased it
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 11:49AM EDT (link)“Woe to you lawyers.”
Yes, let's dig into THAT family history
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 11:54AM EDT (link)n/t
My strict interpretation of "natural born"
Tbone (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 4:54PM EDT (link)only excludes those born by C section.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
funny
supergirl2911 Sunday, November 6th at 8:02AM EDT (link)nt
Or it means you can't be a pod-person...
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 11:51AM EDT (link)We all saw Obama’s moobs and – critically – belly button – flapping in the breeze in that David Hasselhoff-style photo, so I guess he’s eligible by that definition as well.
Wrong
Lucas Black Saturday, November 5th at 1:47PM EDT (link)Mike Huckabee won Iowa last time. He could have won South Carolina as well, but Lazy Fred Thompson was splitting the vote with him. And Reagan was a conservative outsider at the time he won.
In Iowa money matters little
thirstyboots Saturday, November 5th at 7:05PM EDT (link)It’s a small, cheap, media-market and both advertising and paid staff offer huge diminishing returns due to the nature of the caucuses and the republican electorate there. Ask Hillary or Romney. You need ground game, but you don’t need the money or the “organization”: you need committed supporters.
If I had to guess, I’d say that Cain, Gingrich and Romney will fight for the victory in Iowa.
RINO has become one of the most abused...
malachi45 Saturday, November 5th at 10:22PM EDT (link)terms in politics. It has now become shorthand for any Republican I don’t like. Often, it is used by people who support candidates that aren’t even technically the most conservative ones running. It really is becoming a useless term. And interestingly enough, I often see it used by independents or people who vote third party. RINO means Republican in name only, not conservative in name only. That means you really can’t honestly call people like McCain and Dole RINOs because they vote/voted with the Republican majorities most of the time. In this current presidential race, the only one who could even arguably be considered a “RINO” is Romney. And even he is probably not a RINO. He’s more liberal than I prefer and has flip flopped on some things, but a RINO? Not really. All the others have long track records of supporting Republicans and voting with Republicans.
So please, stop calling everyone but your anointed candidate a RINO. It’s just not so.
The same goes for “establishment” . Establishment seems to mean anyone who has been electorally successful. Herman Cain lost his 2004 Senate race. Sarah Palin quit her job as governor. Michelle Bachman has repeatedly won re-election. John Huntsman was a successful governor. Rick Perry has been a successful governor re-elected numerous times. That doesn’t mean the former are virtuous and the latter corrupt.
Support your guy, but please stop the melodrama of -my guy stands for the people and everyone else is a character straight from Boardwalk Empire.
It’s really getting old.
Pretty sure "RINO"
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 12:09PM EDT (link)Means Republican with non-conservative record.
That covers, most prominently, John “What 1st Amendment?” McRino, as well as Willard “Flip-Flop” McRomneycare.
Which is no insult to RINO’s – we need seat warmers in places where no conservative can get elected.
This does not apply to the presidency. When Republicans run conservatives, we win. When we run RINOs, we lose, with the only exception being Bush I, who rode the coattails of the great American demigod, Reagan, whose wisdom and truth we hold sacred, amen. And he did not win re-election, by the way.
The real definition of “establishment” is whatever forces on the right attempt to spoil the nomination in favor of a RINO.
Then perhaps you
malachi45 Monday, November 7th at 2:28AM EDT (link)should use the term Conservative in Name Only (CINO), because the republican Party has always had a a range of ideology and not solidly conservative. And, as I said, the term is often used as nothing more than a way to attack a candidate you don’t support. I see a lot of Cain supporters using the term RINO to attack other candidates; candidates that aren’t any less conservative than Cain is. The same applies to “establishment”. The establishment are those villainous “elites” who oppose YOUR candidate.
What’s sad is that there really is an Republican establishment and there really are RINOs, but the terms have been so badly abused that they are borderline useless now to any fair thinking person. BTW, what you call a politician who signed tax increases, a law liberalizing abortion, and an amnesty law? I think you called him a “demigod”. Now he would be called a RINO.
Cain is doing everything right in Iowa.
Tbone (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 3:11PM EDT (link)It is time for candidate like Cain to stand up and declare the Iowa corn hicks non-important right along with those granite heads in NH and the gap toothed hillbillies in South Carolina.
The best way to do that is to have virtually no ground game in any of the three. Cain’s political instincts are unassailable and his top level mangers are seasoned and wily.
Just watch as Herman destroys that pseudo-intellectual and bottomless vessel of world knowledge and government affairs Newt Gingrich. I bet Cain has Newt stuttering and blubbering in no time.
We need a President who has absolutely no fear in making a fool of himself and Cain is just the guy to do it.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
That was pure unspoiled laugh out loud funny Tbone
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 3:26PM EDT (link)This wins the post of the day, and then some.
yep! Quite the flare with words. LOL!
avagreen Saturday, November 5th at 3:46PM EDT (link)^^
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
yo -tbone
paulplantowin Saturday, November 5th at 3:37PM EDT (link)now that’s a comment I can understand. I wondered if Iowa (and other early states) have this whole thing so rigged that no outsider need apply.
(I have observed you to be basically anti-Cain, so I get the heavy sarc)
Sarc aside – something needs to happen, from a perspective like mine, to blow up the Iowa scam (as it seems to me).
From the earlier ‘straw poll’ mess that seems like a month long fund raiser for iowa GOP more than a primary for America to get a look at the line-up, to this whole “you better bring mega-bucks if you want Iowa” deal now – I say
#@^&%*# Iowa!
By the way – Rubio does look good – so far. But what will he look like after 8 years or so ‘inside the beltway’ ?
p.s. to tbone
paulplantowin Saturday, November 5th at 3:48PM EDT (link)The current system has given us:
Bush senior – of ‘voodoo economics’ and ‘read my lips’ fame.
(which led to Clinton)
Then we got Dole (more of Clinton)
Then we got ‘compassionate conservatism’ George W with all the joy that brought us ‘uncompassionate conservatives” (sarc). I especially liked No Child Left Behind – I won’t go on.
This mess led to McCain – are you f’ing kidding me?
So – McCain inspired apathy gave us Baraq Obama!
So – bottom line for used up conservatives – getting a little sick of this whole ‘experienced politician’ that can get the GOP nod swindle.
So – a big re-shuffle seems no worse than what I’ve been gettin’ for 25 years.
Two Clowns Don't Make a Right
bzip Saturday, November 5th at 5:24PM EDT (link)I thought for sure we already had a big enough clown in the white house – guess we have to try and put even bigger clown in the white house than what we currently have.
yes, Tbone, we'll just hang tight and Let Herman be Herman
circlegranch Saturday, November 5th at 6:40PM EDT (link)with Smoking Gun as his hit man, sent forth to read prepared answers to prepared questions given to him in advance by Fox hosts, with the encouraging knowledge that his wife is a big influence on him and she votes Democrat rather frequently, what could go wrong with a campaign like that?
Let Herman be Herman
bzip Saturday, November 5th at 6:51PM EDT (link)“Let Herman be Herman”
His Lying,
his gaffes,
his abortion flaps,
his TARP flaps,
his GITMO Flaps,
his Fed Audit Flaps,
his China Flaps,
his Foreign Policy flaps,
his 2nd amendment Flaps,
his flip-flopping flaps,
oh when does it all end….
Well Herman can be Herman – its a tough job but someone has to do it
.
I keep asking – why are we suppose to support this fellow who can’t even keep his story straight on his sexual harassment allegations.
Let Herman be Herman
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 7:52PM EDT (link)and Block be Block. They are showing every current and future candidate how not to run a campaign for the pres-a-dency.
If this article is correct,
paladin1 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 4:35PM EDT (link)then the theory that Cain is just a Romney shill to help damage and disperse the Perry vote gains more credence. I had actually thought there was probably not much to that theory but this story, coupled with Cain’s vitriolic, unfounded, persistent attacks on Perry regarding the sexual harrassment scandal story, and his lack of attacks on Romney cause me to reconsider.
That, or he is just a deluded publicity seeker trying to sell a book. Either way he is a loser in the political arena.
“I will work every day to make Washington, DC as inconsequential in your life as I can.”
Governor Rick Perry, Texas
And now he brings the fight back home to Texas. What a man of class! 01/19/12
Makes you wonder...
usa1776usa Sunday, November 6th at 7:02AM EDT (link)All fire has been pointed at Perry by both Cain and Romney…the end result will be a split vote with Romney winning. Even Bachman has gone easy on Romney and hard on Perry. It appears the left, RINOs, and the Washington Establishment/Elites are most afraid of Perry. More reasons to vote Perry…
Cain will win Iowa, and here's why
llorta Saturday, November 5th at 4:54PM EDT (link)This assumes Cain is a conventional candidate, running a conventional campaign. He is neither, which is why the usual rules do not apply to him.
Take the first aspect – he is an unconventional candidate, because unlike the rest, he isn’t a politician.
Well, OK, sure, Cain has RUN for office in the past, he’s just never managed to WIN an elected office in the past, much less a primary.
But you see, this is what makes Cain so refreshing and different from the rest – all of the other candidates have actually managed to win a race or two before. But this is an unusual year. If you want to win, you must get behind the proven loser.
Cain has aspired to higher office for more than a decade, but hasn’t won anything, which just goes to show that this is his year. How can you not see that?
Iowa craves a Washington DC outsider, which is why I support Cain the DC lobbyist, and you should, too.
Is this sarcasm?
Xasteius (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 5:02PM EDT (link)Sorry if I seem a bit jumpy, but you have no posting history.
In either case, welcome to Redstate!
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 5:33PM EDT (link)This comment… I bow to it.
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Read the RedState Posting Rules
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Tbone is now in competition for best post of the day
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 5:47PM EDT (link)“But this is an unusual year. If you want to win, you must get behind the proven loser.” THIS!
Herman Cain, the "Washington Generals" of politics
Return to Revolution (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 7:43PM EDT (link)Out of hand Constitutional fetishist
This number of people seems to be a "doubling" of staff for Cain in Iowa
onemovoter (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 5:41PM EDT (link)from a week ago when Cain had a whole FOUR paid staffers there.
http://theothermccain.com/2011/10/23/the-cain-campaign-in-iowa/
watch the video… it was posted on Oct 23, a whole 10 days ago.
Also of note, a poll was posted where Perry was at 7% and now is polling at double about 14%. hhmmmm…. ground game anyone?
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do.”- Benjamin Franklin
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”- Will Rogers
Could it be a strategy?
serpounce Saturday, November 5th at 6:16PM EDT (link)I’m no expert on the political ground game, but don’t poorer campaigns often “skip” Iowa exactly because it’s so expensive to compete there? Cain has surged, but he doesn’t have anywhere near the money that Romney and Perry have.
Personally I see this three way race stretching out into some of the later primaries after the the first three states split with Iowa going to Perry, NH to Romney, and SC to Cain. If that’s right Cain might be better off saving money for super tuesday instead of blowing it for another point or two in Iowa.
serpounce- Iowa is relatively cheap
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 8:02PM EDT (link)for ads etc. in Iowa. Every early race after Iowa gets more and more expensive, leading up to Fla. which is very expensive. If Cain is not willing to use his new found wealth in Iowa, he has little to no chance there. He may think that his charm and wit are enough to bring out the Iowa voters in his favor, but, he hasn’t spent very much money, or time in Iowa. It is a sad reality that the Iowans want to meet and shake hands with all of the candidates, and the GOP uses the presidential primaries as a fundraising tool. The reality still is that if a candidate ignores Iowa, as Cain has done, he has little chance of winning there.
That makes sense, thanks Scope
serpounce Saturday, November 5th at 9:57PM EDT (link)I guess I was thinking that personnel would be the big expense, and Iowans expect more face to face interactions with staff, but if adds and other mass contact systems are the greatest expense then it makes sense that Iowa is cheaper.
Personally I don’t like 9-9-9, and don’t think Cain has enough foreign policy experience/knowledge, but I like the guy and hate to see get the “he’s an amateur that isn’t serious because he hasn’t paid his dues to the perenial, bi-partisan professional electioneers.”
I’d like to think that a guy doesn’t have to pay the big bucks to the James Carville/ Carl Rove types to get elected, but that’s probably just naive.
Carville and Rove don't have the say in Iowa
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 10:12PM EDT (link)for starters. It is very naive to think that any Republican has to bow at the altar of Carville, he is a liberal after all.
Cain’s problem isn’t that he hasn’t paid his dues to the professional electioneers. Cain’s problem is that he lacks almost every qualification that a majority of voters want to see in a presidential candidate, starting with an ability to articulate your own positions on the issues. It’s that simple. I wonder if Cain is running for head clown at Barnums and Bailey, or head waiter at the Last Supper.
Cain will win in Iowa
thirstyboots Saturday, November 5th at 6:56PM EDT (link)I was skeptic, but after this prediction it’s a given.
Also, here’s a RCP article on Cain’s campaign in Iowa with a slightly different point of view:
“But Cain’s campaign is attempting to rewrite the rules for how to
wage a winning campaign by relying on a team of committed volunteers, rather than paid professionals, to do most of the grunt work, while the candidate himself leaves a light footprint in the early voting states.
“I’ve been in a lot of campaigns and I can tell you I’ve not been in a campaign that is so volunteer-driven as this one,” said Steve Grubbs, a former Iowa GOP chairman and longtime presidential campaign veteran, who signed on to lead Cain’s Iowa effort earlier this month. “The only job for the paid staffers is to use their time to leverage volunteers. So if one staffer mobilizes 50 volunteers a day, you get hundreds of volunteer hours per staffer. That’s the model, and it only works if you have this group of deeply passionate people for the candidate and the campaign.”
(…)
Darla Phillips, 59, had also never worked on a campaign before she started volunteering for Cain last week.
“He’s not got all of the funds that other candidates have, so I just figure he can use all the volunteers he can get,” she said.
Another volunteer, who declined to provide his name, said that he saw parallels between Cain’s current standing and the buzz that surrounded the under-funded, under-organized Mike Huckabee in 2007, for whom this man volunteered. The former Arkansas governor pulled off a win in the Iowa caucuses four years ago.”
As for the paid staffers, I think he has 4 of them now. That’s exactly the same number Huckabee had at this point four years ago. Enthusiasm from supporters wins Iowa caucuses, not money to spend. Huckabee and Romney proved that 4 years ago.
It does not take a lot of money to win Iowa or to
septembergurl (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 7:24PM EDT (link)place — in 2008, Obama and Huckabee won the caucuses though neither had much money. They had enthusiastic volunteers -Huck had homeschoolers and evangelicals, Obama had college students and labor union thugs.
It’s hard to poll a caucus because it’s so uncertain who will show up. Also, the voting in Iowa has a unique feature, after the vote is taken the lower vote-getters then attach themselves to the supporters of another candidate ho got more votes. In other words it’s fluid and there are dynamics that don’t come into play when you simply enter the voting booth.
My guess is it will be Gingrich – Perry or Perry-Gingrich, with Mittens coming in third. The only one who could push Mitt into fourth (which would be very damaging) would be Ron Paul, though he isn’t running strongly now. I don’t see bachmann, Santorum or Cain as factors, though that could change.
Herman & Newt debate
unitedwestand Saturday, November 5th at 8:38PM EDT (link)Anyone watching the debate on C-Span?
I'm got an open thread, unitedwestand.
Xasteius (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 8:44PM EDT (link)nt
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Now way?
boonerdan (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 9:22PM EDT (link)You mean there is “another” debate? I am waiting for the GOP to hold their next “debate” on The View.
Iowa guesses
goformitt Sunday, November 6th at 12:45AM EDT (link)I thought the big news out of the dinner was how well Newt did. He stole the show from what I can tell. And its a big show to steal – everybody whose anybody is there.
I think we’ll be seeing more about Newt this week. Maybe lots more.
Perry is up in the Iowa polls – but he’s flooding the airwaves with ads. He flopped at the dinner.
By the way, if you didn’t see the Perry skit on Sat Night Live tonight you missed a classic. Not quiet Palin, but close. Hilarious.
But Mitt is still going to win in Iowa. Folks at the caucuses will be split between Perry / Gingrich / Cain and Paul. After the first round Romney will be their second choice.
I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.
Dreaming
nathanalbright (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 12:51AM EDT (link)The fact that your post contained a lot of Perry bashing suggests that you are more concerned about Perry than about Newt. And if the people there are anything like here, a lot of them won’t have Mittens as their second or third or even fourth choice.
I think the People in Iowa will know an empty suit when they see one.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 12:51AM EDT (link)They did the last time.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Can we get a moderator to look at this please?
jrmax13 Sunday, November 6th at 1:06AM EDT (link)This is ridiculous. First gekster and Xas are posting recipes trying to block newcomers. Then turn on “Formitt” saying to get off the thread it is for HERM ! If the bandwidth wasters want to post recipes they could easily go over to Lucianne’s “Connection.” If they don’t agree with even one policy stance they call “trolls” and Hines rule b.s. The Perry Bullies is what this section should be entitled. Why do you let these people direct this portion of RS ?
Oregano-Balsamic Grilled Pork
gekster (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:12AM EDT (link)Oregano-Balsamic Grilled Pork
MARINADE/DRESSING
1/2 cup cooking oil
1/4 cup balsamic vinegar
2 teaspoons dried oregano leaves, crushed
2 garlic cloves, minced
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon black pepper
GRILLED PORK
4 (4-ounce) boneless center-cut loin pork chops, trimmed
Cooking Spray
1?4 teaspoon salt
Pepper to taste
first
Combine all marinade ingredients in a small bowl, stirring well with a whisk.
second
Place the pork in a large zip-top plastic bag, add 1/3 cup of the marinade, and seal. Refrigerate remaining marinade for later use. Toss bag gently to coat. Refrigerate overnight or at least 8 hours,
turning occasionally.
third
Coat a grill pan or grill rack with cooking spray, and place over medium-high heat. Remove pork from marinade; discard marinade. Grill pork 4 minutes on each side or until barely pink in center.
Remove from heat, and let stand 5 minutes. Sprinkle pork with 1/8 teaspoon salt and pepper to taste.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Perry looks "pre-packaged"
goformitt Sunday, November 6th at 1:29AM EDT (link)I’m not really worried about anything in the conventional political sense. But Perry comes off as pre-packaged. He’s like all hat and no cattle. He just doesn’t seem to have anything genuine about him.
And seriously, watch that SNL skit if you get a chance. They nailed it.
If I worry about anything, I worry about the #OWS movement. I think it has the potential to become the most serious, global socially disruptive force in our lifetime.
I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.
goformitt, a voter who gets
paladin1 (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:34AM EDT (link)information and direction from Saturday Night Live fully lives up to my thoughts that only property owners and the literate should be allowed to vote. That excludes most of #OWS and you.
“I will work every day to make Washington, DC as inconsequential in your life as I can.”
Governor Rick Perry, Texas
And now he brings the fight back home to Texas. What a man of class! 01/19/12
Romney looks post-packaged
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:35AM EDT (link)And well past his expiration date.
I don’t worry about OWS – push comes to shove – the
people will take care of the OWS punks if the cops won’t.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Ah yes, bravado
goformitt Sunday, November 6th at 1:07AM EDT (link)Spoken with all the confidence of a Middle Eastern dictator …
(Sorry, I’ll let this thread return ti it’s regularly scheduled programming now )
I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.
Bingo, izone! Well said. 5x5 n/t
pttx333 (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:40AM EDT (link)nt
Why does he keep reminding me of ...
acat (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:44AM EDT (link)…
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Caveat Suffragator
Homemade Biscuits
Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:40AM EDT (link)2 cups flour
1/3 cup oil
2/3 cup milk
1 tsp baking powder
1 tsp salt or sugar (optional)
stir dry ingredients together, then add wet ingredients. Stir well, then knead together (do not knead too much). Cut into biscuits. Place on ungreased baking sheet. Preheat oven to 450 degrees, insert biscuits, and cook for 10-15 minutes, turning the biscuits as needed.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Who uses oil in biscuits?
Menlo (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:21AM EDT (link)Don’t you need a solid fat like butter, shortening, or lard (if anyone still uses that) to get a good taste and texture?
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Well, don't use olive oil...but canola or vegetable oil works well.
Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:32AM EDT (link)Feel free to experiment.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
This one I'll try.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:45AM EDT (link)Never was good at biscuits though, but I keep trying.
The last time I tried biscutis, I wound up painting them black and sold them to the local hockey team.
I think they’re still useing them.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
SNL Skit
jrmax13 Sunday, November 6th at 3:17AM EDT (link)goformitt, that might be quite a clip to catch on youtube. I am sure someone will post it up there before long.
Rick Perry / Marcus Bachmann 2012!
Iced Coffee
gekster (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 3:24AM EDT (link)2 tablespoon honey or butterscotch flavored sundae syrup
1/4 cup fat free milk
1 cup hot, regular coffee
1-16 oz. drinking glass of ice
Pour milk into a full glass of ice
Next, add coffee and mix
Last drizzle honey or flavored syrup on top of iced coffee
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
For instance
goformitt Sunday, November 6th at 1:34AM EDT (link)I opened a twitter account, did a search for Wall Street. 30 minutes later I’m following 240 – all #occupy accounts – from NYC to New Zealand to Mumbai. Millions of people, globally united behind a single cause. Never have we seen anything like it. The power there is unimaginable.
And …
From Twitter:
OccupyAirForce Air Force anonymous
by OccupyArmy
If you’re active duty military you CAN protest. Just can’t say you represent the military or DoD, and can’t be in uniform
I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.
Uh, this thread is not about OWS.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:40AM EDT (link)It’s about Herb.
There are enough OWS threads around that you don’t have to threadjack this one.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
I was embarrassed by his performance tonight
usedtobelib Sunday, November 6th at 1:37AM EDT (link)on C-SPAN. He passed a couple of question to Newt and he got all mixed up on Medicare.
's a reason why some..
acat (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 1:47AM EDT (link)prefer a candidate with experience of being a candidate.
Newt is in his element in debate. Cain is in his behind a microphone. Both skills are useful, but to imagine either is sufficient is silliness.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
They do compliment each other
jrmax13 Sunday, November 6th at 3:29AM EDT (link)Cain and Gingrich seem to make a good match. Apparently, they have been quite good friends for years. Newt can certainly vouch for his experience in government as well as academia, business, non-profits, non-fiction books, as well as novels.
Newt Gingrich/Nikki Haley 2012!
True, jrmax
Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 8:53AM EDT (link)1234
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
RS doesn't get it..
swamphermit (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 5:57AM EDT (link)…professional politicians are the problem. Perhaps that is why most of RS never understood Sarah, the Tea Party, and/or Cain.
swamp hermit if we are not careful
jrmax13 Sunday, November 6th at 6:03AM EDT (link)If we are not careful as a party we may end up with some atrocity like:
Rick Perry/James Traficant 2012 !
A nondebate between Cain and Gingrich
bzip Sunday, November 6th at 7:29AM EDT (link)Cain clearly shows he is without substance. In a debate format such is this, Cain with fail since he has no substance BUT Perry will shine. It appears a number of media sites feel the same:
A nondebate between Cain and Gingrich
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-1106-tea-party-debate-20111106,0,5771607.story
“Cain seemed ill at ease; he deferred frequently to Gingrich on complex aspects of federal programs. When one of the two moderators, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), asked about defined benefits, Cain gave a halting answer. “A defined…. You go first, Newt.”
Cain continues his testy remarks to the media
bzip Sunday, November 6th at 7:30AM EDT (link)TRENDING: Cain scolds reporters: ‘End of story’ to sexual harassment claims
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/06/trending-cain-scolds-reporters-end-of-story-to-sexual-harassment-claims/
Cain Spars With Reporters Over Questions on Sexual Harassment Claims
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/cain-spars-with-reporters-over-questions-on-sexual-harassment-claims/
Cain's favorability drops after accusations: poll
bzip Sunday, November 6th at 8:13AM EDT (link)Cain’s favorability drops after accusations: poll
“The most striking thing is that Herman Cain is actually seeing a fairly substantial decline in favorability ratings toward him particularly among Republicans,” said Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson.”
http://news.yahoo.com/cains-favorability-drops-sex-accusations-poll-051227162.html
The Bad News for Perry
btpull Sunday, November 6th at 8:42AM EDT (link)According to this poll Cain’s favorability rating is still 10% higher than Perry’s after the drop.
Ah, the bad news for cain will continue
bzip Sunday, November 6th at 8:47AM EDT (link)Just wait for the news of Cain to sink in and the story will most likely continue for Cain sexual harassment allegations .
For Perry he most likely has hit bottom and can only go up but Cain is on a slow road to the bottom feeders
I am also sure Cain’s lousy and non-substance debate performance last night against Newt sure isn’t going to help him either.
If Moe is Mau-maued, does that mean
Adjoran (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 3:33PM EDT (link)he is “Moe-Moed”?
Cain isn’t running a serious campaign, but some of his supporters are deadly serious. Notice their approach to the scandal talk:
Vilify the press for reporting it.
Insist all Republicans fall in line behind Cain.
Smear the women as golddiggers or even prostitutes.
Sound familiar? Like the Clinton Smear Machine with all those great dance hits in the ’90s?
You need enthusisam and organization
charliebravoNH (Diary) Sunday, November 6th at 4:28PM EDT (link)to win the caucuses, because you need to make sure those enthusiastic supporters show up. Mitt lacks in enthusiasm but is strong in organization. So that doesn’t make him a hands on favorite to win Iowa. If Cain and Perry falter and with Bachmann in the race there is a path to victory for Mitt in Iowa.
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No chance in Iowa, eh? Wow...
jqcjones Monday, November 7th at 12:01AM EDT (link)according to real clear politics today… Cain leads by 15 points now over Doofus, Romney. 30% to 15%. Gasp! I have never seen so many morons in one place… wait, that’s not entirely true…The Huffington Post notwithstanding..
http://escapetyranny.com/2011/11/06/backfire-cain-now-leads-by-15-points-in-iowa/
This isn't my country...
rickperryreport Monday, November 7th at 2:49AM EDT (link)…if Cain’s numbers don’t fall like a rock. This poll here doesn’t make sense at all.
But then again, I asked my Cain-liking wife how she felt about the sex scandal. She didn’t even know anything about it. She only watches “The 70s Show.”
I’m for Perry, I like Newt too.
I really, really dislike Cain. In fact, I think I hate him as much as Doc Holliday hated Johnny Ringo.
Did you notice, rickperryreport, that the poll is in Iowa? I'm
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 3:36AM EDT (link)not convinced it is accurate either. Take heart, though, as I believe that Cain’s support will dwindle as time goes by and folks learn more about him, We still have a way to go. Romney will remain at his standard 23% or so, and that leaves who? Rick Perry – our guy – the one who has the creds, the moxie and the courage to take apart that which CAN be taken apart in D.C. I have supported him for years and will remain throughout the duration as his supporter. And I’m not the only one. If nothing else, we Perry supporters are loyal!
Don't stop believin'
Finrod (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 12:36PM EDT (link)Meanwhile Perry is in 6th place in Iowa. Good luck with that.
Those of us that support Cain will welcome your support when Perry drops out after the South Carolina primary, even with all the nasty things Perry supporters have been saying about Cain.
PETA and the ASPCA are pure evil. See here and here.
Uh, what nasty things have Perry supporters been saying.
gekster (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 12:44PM EDT (link)Got a few examples.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
How about childish, "I want vote for Cain if he's the nominee." nt
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 1:04PM EDT (link)n/t/
Herman Cain said...
rickperryreport Tuesday, November 8th at 11:27PM EDT (link)“The only one I cannot support 100% is Rick Perry.”
Herman Cain sort of endeared me to him with that comment, ya know?
The Newt supported the "Individual Mandate"...
rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 4:13AM EDT (link)…and global warming [sitting with Pelosi].
Also,he’s a globalist…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jWPz1Qdq1uI
…and his CPAC speech…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KBPiKS…
…should serve as a model for his agenda.
Yet, the former demonstrates his RINO-roots from the 1970′s and the latter demonstrates his desire to supplant the current system WITH ANOTHER system.
He is an elitist/statist, based on his voting record and his assertions.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
5x5x5, rsklaroff. You have described Newt
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 4:57AM EDT (link)in all his glory. I’ve been around a long time, and Newt never has been and never will be my choice for anything. He isn’t trustworthy, and that about sums up my feelings for the man.
Indeed. If Cain's numbers keep 'dropping' like this he'll win Iowa unanimously
Finrod (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 12:29PM EDT (link)Comparing the Insider Advantage poll of 11/3 to their poll of 10/16:
Cain 30 (+4)
Romney 15 (-3)
Gingrich 12 (0)
Paul 9 (-1)
Bachmann 8 (-3)
Perry 6 (0)
Huntsman 2 (+1)
So that’s Cain gaining ground and everyone else that has a chance dropping or staying even.
PETA and the ASPCA are pure evil. See here and here.
kowalski to rickperryreport! I found this article w/photos re Perry's parents, and
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 4:03AM EDT (link)it pretty much lays out for everyone just who Rick Perry is and what he is about. It is in a Dallas newspaper and pretty much fair EXCEPT the author refers to the Perrys’ “family hunting lodge” AND that damned rock! That was done on purpose! They never ever had a family hunting lodge, they had a deer lease, for heaven’s sake! Read it, though, because his parents are just like everyone I ever knew growing up in West Texas (my folks included), and it means a lot to me to read about them. What precious, wonderful people!
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/perry-watch/headlines/20111105-rick-perrys-parents-say-their-son-is-strong-medicine-needed-by-a-sickly-nation.ece
Perry's parents' interview and especially their photo was so good to see
circlegranch Monday, November 7th at 5:35AM EDT (link)and as pttx333 points out, if you want to understand the background of Rick Perry, if you need to examine his heart and how he feels about America, the apple didn”t fall from the tree. At age 86, his daddy is still ranchin’ and raisin’ cattle and his momma quilts and I’d bet is a darned good cook. Take 3 min out of your blogging life today and click here or above and read this story. I hope God blesses the Perry family on this difficult but important journey.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/perry-watch/headlines/20111105-rick-perrys-parents-say-their-son-is-strong-medicine
Isn't it just perfect, circleg? I've been weepy since
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 5:47AM EDT (link)reading it earlier and have it bookmarked. It so reminds me of my upbringing out in that part of Texas and the wonderful people who live there. If only I could go back and relive them once again. And you can better bet that Amelia is a good cook – that is written in stone. That is what the ladies did – cooked for the men when they were neighboring. (Okay, you city dudes, ask me what “:neighboring” is!
)
Thanks for reading it, circle – I’m just a’hankerin’ for everyone to read it!
pttx333, let's do our part to spread the word about the Perry article
circlegranch Monday, November 7th at 6:07AM EDT (link)at every web news site and blog we can. Have you joined Smart Girl Politics? www.smartgirlpolitics.ning.com Its a great forum often visited by Liz Cheney and the like. They have a number of groups you can easily join and you can blog all day long at the main page or specifically at your groups.
Yep, ranch women and men like the Perry’s know what hard work is, they raise their kids right and a very few, like Ray and Amelia, get to see their son become President of the United States.
“Neighborin’ in my neck of the woods didn’t just mean visitin’. It also meant helping fix fence, bale hay or bring in the crop. If a tornado took out a man’s barn, the neighbors came and helped raise a new one and the women cooked and fed the crew. Our friends in NYC and elsewhere that conduct polls and write influential articles and have a national microphone everyday from which they drive the results of elections probably have never heard of such a life. There’s something about making your living off the land and being at the mercy of God and His weather for your survival that teaches a person humility of a sort you can’t get anywhere else. People raised in that vein know how to respect their fellow man because they know when hard times come, they’ll need that man as a friend. A simple upbringing is very unpopular these days but I’ll take a president that knows how to pull a calf and plant seed in the dust with a faith in the Lord that it’ll rain 5 minutes before its too late any day. My daddy always used to say, “No matter what, never forget where you came from.” Rick Perry remembers where he came from and he’ll be a remarkable President.
Dagnabitall! I meant the other post to be a reply also, so this is my kowalski, circle!
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 6:36AM EDT (link)YES, I would love to spread the word about Ray and Amelia – in fact, they need to have an ad featuring those sweet people. I LOVED it when Amelia stood up in church (TWICE) to correct the pastor. Isn’t that a hoot? I’ll do my part on this end, circle. Have already forwarded to email friends and included the explanation about the ignorant author’s reference to the rock and the “family hunting lodge.”
Oh, did you see the Houston rag’s hit piece? They do them regularly. This is KBH whining about Perry being “brutal” to her during the last Governor’s race. Good Lord above, after the horrible smears on Perry that she and her cohorts threw out? Never did like that woman and sure don’t now. She LOST and can’t get past the bitter taste in her mouth!
Forgot the link, circle - I get so wound up! Here
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 6:38AM EDT (link)it is:
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/11/kay-bailey-hutchison-says-rick-perry-was-very-brutal-to-her-two-years-ago-and-shes-not-retreating-from-her-criticism-of-him/
circle and pttx333 another Perry article
1bunny Monday, November 7th at 12:56PM EDT (link)that I like is one done by CNN on Rick Perry’s faith journey. Even though it is CNN I thought it was a well done article on Perry and his faith with only a few digs. Check it out and see if it might be one to send along with the parent article. I will also do my best to spread the word using upbeat informative articles on Rick Perry.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/05/rick-perrys-long-faith-journey-culminates-in-presidential-run/?hpt=hp_c1
thank you, 1bunny. CNN has been far more fair and balanced to Perry than Fox
circlegranch Monday, November 7th at 1:23PM EDT (link)I’m finding myself watching them quite frequently. I will check out this article you refer here, posthaste.
Neighborin' as you describe is exactly what it means to me, circle.
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, November 7th at 6:29AM EDT (link)Though I never had the pleasure of living in the country, I had family who did and many friends whose families ranched. I’ve been involved with the ladies and the cooking while the men would brand, cut or dip cattle, round up the livestock to move to another pasture, or whatever needed to be done, and it was heaven on earth. After the work was done and everyone was fed, then the visitin’ part happened. What fun it was!
Yes, there are those who think we are just dumb hicks – well, I have the perfect comment: “Thank ya.” I’ll accept that moniker any old day over the so-called “elite” titles. And when someone refers to Rick Perry as a dumb, swaggering cowboy, I just laugh to myself – they are in for a ride they won’t soon forget. Right? And the “all hat and no cattle” thing is wearing mighty thin with me! That particular phrase refers to a drugstore cowboy wannabe, and that is NOT Rick Perry.
I’ve not heard of Smart Girl Politics, but you can bet I will be checking into their site. I adore Liz Cheney, too. Thanks for the info, circle.