The Revolution will be coordinated from pricy hotels.


Huh. Doesn't scan.

But never mind that, Comrade. Surely it must be understood that oversight of the glorious proletarian class struggle against the capitalist bosses and their running-dog international banker lackeys requires a full effort from those chosen to speak on behalf of the workers, yes? And since the Struggle has reached a critical moment, the stresses on, and expectations of, those individuals so chosen are at their highest point. It is well understood that at such moments of crisis that resources must be allocated with an eye to the higher aims of the Revolution, and not necessarily to a sentimental devotion to faux-egalitarian thinking. As has been said: “From each, according to his ability. To each, according to his needs!

It is thus obvious that the needs of the Struggle absolutely requires the use of $700/night hotel rooms as an alternative to commutes.

Meanwhile, [Peter] Dutro, 35, one of only a handful of OWS leaders in charge of the movement’s $500,000 in donations, checked in [to the W Hotel] on Wednesday, the night after police emptied Zuccotti Park.

While hundreds of his rebel brethren scrambled to find shelter in church basements, Dutro chose the five-star, 58-story hotel, with its lush rooms and 350-count Egyptian cotton sheets. He lives only a short taxi ride away in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn.

But do not worry, Comrade! Once the Revolution comes, all will have access to these hotel rooms! We shall keep them as museums to a more decadent and unequal time.

Via capitalist wrecker and interloper to the People’s Twitter @RBPundit.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

PS: No, a perusal of the commentary by Comrade Finance Commitee Member Dutro shows that his actions are fully in accord with current orthodoxy:

[Dutro] said he spent $500 of his own money to get the room…
[snip]
He paid for the palace with his American Express card.
“It is an expensive hotel. Whatever,” he said.

This is a tricky subject for our newer Comrades, but what must be understood here is that Dutro is making a critical distinction between personal property and private property. This intellectual breakthrough was recently made by one of our field theoreticians (found here: scroll ahead to about 4:30 in the video), and neatly answers any lingering complaints of creeping class sentiments contaminating the so-called ‘inner circle’ of the People’s Glorious Occupation Movement. – What’s that, you still can’t tell the difference? How… unfortunate, Comrade. Perhaps you require the assistance of the Safety Working Group to help you in this matter?

No?

Excellent news.


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personal property vs private property...

macbookben (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:03AM EDT (link)

…ask the guy in Samantha Bee’s interview for a conceptual model of that. “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others (Orwell).

Proud reformed liberal, born-again conservative (since 1999)

 

I'm willing to purchase

DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:28AM EDT (link)

…and donate 25 copies of Animal Farm to any of the Occupied locations. Maybe some lights will go on in currently dark minds.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

Yes, all animals (an appropriate description) are equal

throwback59 Sunday, November 20th at 11:50AM EDT (link)

but some animals are more equal than others.

 

You might be better of with the dvd cartoon version...

anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 9:44PM EDT (link)

Cost less, makes the point and hey, it’s animated!

Razz Etc!
“Best Poker book written ever!!!” – Author’s unbiased opinion…

 
 

That $500

neoavatara (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 12:29PM EDT (link)

Could have spent feeding the poor. Sad, really. LOL.

First it was Atlas Shrugged coming to reality; now it is Animal Farm. The world gets crazier by the day.

www.neoavatara.com/blog

Next...

macbookben (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 4:47PM EDT (link)

…will be “The Giving Tree.” Come to think of it though, wouldn’t that actually straighten out their twisted logic?

Proud reformed liberal, born-again conservative (since 1999)

 
 

Moe, you're wrong on this. International Bankers take my money and yours and give it to themselves as bonuses.

reaganbuckley Sunday, November 20th at 3:17PM EDT (link)

My taxpayer money pays their salaries. At least 700 billion of it.

Tell our government to stop socializing risk

Banned by Der Kommissars!

Genuine conservatives are opposed to cronyism

civil truth (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 9:13PM EDT (link)

…and certainly opposed to socializing risk (moral hazard). But the way you unwind the big business-big labor-corrupt politician positive feedback starts by shrinking, not increasing the power of the politicians.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

 

We did. We took to the streets as the Tea Party,

Pi Over Three (Diary) Monday, November 21st at 8:34AM EDT (link)

took over the primaries to put anti-corporatism Congressmen in office in the 2010 election, and are going to continue to do so in 2012.

You seem like you follow current events about as well as Herman Cain.

I drive a car powered by hydrogen – C8H18 to be exact.

 
 

"personal" vs. "private" property

buddyp (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 3:30PM EDT (link)

Oh, I learned all about their views of “personal” vs. “private” property when I walked by once and observed one of them approach another who was smoking a cigarette and ask latter for a cigarette. The reply was a slight gesture to the burning cigarette the cold yet impressively concise “My last one.”

The requester whined “Awww. Really??” indicating (I think) not disappointment with his supposed bad luck, but rather disbelief that the reply was truthful, and frustration that he wouldn’t be able to smoke (and I’m guessing not also disappointment at the selfishness of his fellow protester, because my guess is that he didn’t find it so surprising, given that it takes one phony egalitarian to know one).

I will give the requester credit for one thing: a surprising sense of probability. Assuming 20 cigarettes per pack, and therefore only a 5% chance that the cigarette being smoked was actually the last one (and even lower chance given the possibility that the smoker had more than one pack), the requester had enough sense to be skeptical of the reply he got. So credit to him for that exhibition of minor intelligence.

But the moral of the story is that, to most people but particularly to the OWS crowd, sharing is a much more attractive idea when it’s the other guy’s stuff.

Facts –> rational analysis –> conclusions –> advocacy. In that sequence.

Book I wish everyone in the world would read

sorry, man...

macbookben (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 4:43PM EDT (link)

…I smoke Kools.

Proud reformed liberal, born-again conservative (since 1999)

I don't get it

buddyp (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 10:20PM EDT (link)

Only thing I can think of is the line “I smoked Kools” in the (great) movie Thank You for Smoking.

Facts –> rational analysis –> conclusions –> advocacy. In that sequence.

Book I wish everyone in the world would read

"everyone"...

macbookben (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 10:52PM EDT (link)

…hates menthols. If someone wants to bum a smoke from you, chances are he/she will look disappointed when you pull out a pack of Kools, Salems, Newports (anything with green on the package). Odds are they will leave you alone, and your conscience will not suffer because you lied about smoking the last one.

Proud reformed liberal, born-again conservative (since 1999)

Yup.

uselogic Monday, November 21st at 1:27PM EDT (link)

I have a buddy who smokes Winston Lights and when he goes out, he puts the night’s stash in a Kool hard box. Discourages ciagrette freeloaders probably 90+ percent of the time.

Me, I just let my Patel or Torano cigars keep ‘em at bay.

 
 
 
 
 

Altruism has it's limits

johnt Sunday, November 20th at 3:37PM EDT (link)

It usually stops at one’s own wallet.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

"Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality,...

chub_in_carthage Sunday, November 20th at 7:43PM EDT (link)

…the costs become prohibitive”.
As long as a prog has access to your wallet altruism is very unlimited.

“Let them quit these gospels of envy, hate, and malice. Let them abandon the utter fallacy, the grotesque, erroneous, fatal blunder of believing that by limiting the enterprise of man, by riveting the shackles of a false equality…they will increase the well-being of the world.” – Winston Churchill

 
 

and the White House and from Axlerod

bobojake (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 3:38PM EDT (link)

Ahhh, hypocrisy - thy name is OWS

ombd Sunday, November 20th at 6:02PM EDT (link)

No wonder the Administration supports them. And it was interesting to see a certain Obama appointee being less than truthful in some statements this week. Might just lead to seeing him being frogmarched from office … http://bit.ly/qVdDUt

 

I (sniff) wish I could afford to be in an OWS rally. All I can afford is a TEA party rally. Dang.

tngal (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 6:41PM EDT (link)

For $700 bucks it better come with a toilet.

hahaha

Ann_W (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 7:04PM EDT (link)

nt

“The more the plans fail, the more the planners plan.” Ronald Reagan

 

LOL!

buddyp (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 10:27PM EDT (link)

Even if it did, I don’t think they’d remember how to use one.

Anyway, plumbing (and hygiene) is just so bourgeois.

Facts –> rational analysis –> conclusions –> advocacy. In that sequence.

Book I wish everyone in the world would read

 

Toilet, hell!

macbookben (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 10:55PM EDT (link)

For seven Franklins there’d better be a bidet next to it.

Proud reformed liberal, born-again conservative (since 1999)

 

They can add a "smart commode."

Menlo (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:14PM EDT (link)

This new model comes with a touch screen remote control, dryer, charcoal-filtered air deodorizer, heated seats, a foot warmer, motion-activated lid and seat, built-in speakers.and LED lights.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

...and...

buddyp (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:36PM EDT (link)

…and for the sake of the environment, the bathrooms for the OWS folks should have only 100% post-consumer recycled toilet paper.

Facts –> rational analysis –> conclusions –> advocacy. In that sequence.

Book I wish everyone in the world would read

And only one square to a user...

rickdeckard Monday, November 21st at 9:09AM EDT (link)

if they intend to enforce the Sheryl Crow limit. Granted, the Crow rule was pushed into the dialog as an ecological solution for rank-and-file grunts. But it easily binds to the social-justice movement. A twofer, so to speak.

 

You don't need any with those high-end models.

Menlo (Diary) Monday, November 21st at 11:39AM EDT (link)

They automatically rinse and have their own built-in dryer.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 
 
 
 

Will this $700 room be collectivized? I recall that..

chub_in_carthage Sunday, November 20th at 7:35PM EDT (link)

“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” – William F. Buckley, Jr.

Well you occupiers of a Marxist bent, what will it be?

“Che Guevara is still at room temperature”-anonymous

 

It does say, "...according to his needs."

Kyle-MI (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 8:52PM EDT (link)

Can they help it if some have bigger needs than others.

 

W Downtown Room Prices are in the Mid $200's not $700-. You may want to correct your post.

reaganbuckley Sunday, November 20th at 9:04PM EDT (link)

No love lost for OWS, but the post article that you link to says it’s a $700- a night hotel, but doesn’t say that is the price they spent on a room. The going prices are about mid $200- a night for the W Downtown. Check out spg.com. Did they get a suite that was $700-?

If your bunking with a roomie and take the prices on spg.com it comes to about $125 a night + tax. Not going to get much cheaper in NYC. The post article quotes hypothetical prices for an expensive room or if they ordered glenlivet scotch etc, but not what they spent. Not a big story, but shows you how the media distorts for ratings. It’s like the $16- muffin story – pure nonsense.

Banned by Der Kommissars!

Talk to the NY Post. It's a direct quote from their article.

Bill S (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 9:21PM EDT (link)

Furthermore, there are plenty of rates quoted on the W Hotel/Starwood site for tonight that are listed at > $500 a night, and based on the fact that this guy is a platinum card holder (again, according to the article), I’m guessing he doesn’t stay in the maid’s closet.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

forget the maid's closet, bill. how much does the maid cost?

tngal (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:11PM EDT (link)

I mean if the room alone is 7, kind of makes one wonder what the amenities are gonna run.

 
 
 

I expected a more interesting analysis here

goformitt Sunday, November 20th at 11:19PM EDT (link)

I mean, its easy to just throw barbs. Thats what has happened with the Tea Party critiques – where does it get us?

Truth is, both tea party and #OWS folks have some valid points. Why not see what we have in common rather than succumb to the Us VS Them mentality that establishment politicians want so desperately?

Its so easy to think the enemy is the other – defined by who? By establishment politicians AND corporations. Not one or the other.

I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.

There have been plenty of valid points...

nathanalbright (Diary) Sunday, November 20th at 11:23PM EDT (link)

…like the fact that genuine conservatives are just as hostile to crony capitalism as the OWS folks, but more consistent in recognizing that crony capitalism springs from an abuse of government to anoint winners and losers in the business world. That’s pointing out the common ground between the Tea Party and OWS, right? But it would also lead to a shared hostility among both Tea Party Conservatives and OWS protestors towards those leaders who who have shown themselves to be crony capitalists par excellance, like Obama with Solyndra.

 
 

They are not the enemy

goformitt Monday, November 21st at 12:37AM EDT (link)

I think what Egypt is struggling with is instructive. The #OWS people are not our enemy.

Read this about the current uprising in Tahir Square:

“But while unity reappeared in the square, where Coptic Christians once again stood guard as their Muslim compatriots bowed to pray, the political class remained deeply polarized over what sort of civilian government might succeed the military.”

Certainly, if Christians can stand in defense of Muslims, we can support our brothers in our fight against political and corporate meglomania.

We need to take back our country. Take it back from the political elite, and the corporate elite.

I finished up my visit to RedState by accusing male Republican candidates of wearing women’s underwear.

How's street warfare looking in Egypt?

nathanalbright (Diary) Monday, November 21st at 12:43AM EDT (link)

I don’t personally buy the so-called Arab spring as genuine democracy. And I’m of the thought that genuine democracy in most of that world means rule by some form of appalling Islamist party dedicated to hostility towards Christians and Jews at home and abroad, and discrimination, if not slaughter, of the Copts in Egypt, for example. You can support them if you wish, but to me they’re a bunch of thugs who probably support terrorists. Those are no friends of mine, though they may be your friends.

I consider the #OWS people foot soldiers of the enemy. Some of them may simply be ignorant and mistaken, in which case I support instruction of those who are wise so that they cease to remain #OWS foot soldiers of the People’s Republic of Kerplunkistan. If you support creeping socialism and a people’s republic, go and join them. Just don’t expect that Conservatives will support you. And don’t forget that your homeboy Mitt is the poster child of the 1% either, he of Bain Capital fame.

 
 

The Robin Hood Tax

mb3986 Monday, November 21st at 8:25AM EDT (link)

One of the most enduring legends of the English-Speaking world is that of Robinhood, who, we are told, stole from the rich and gave to the poor.

The truth is a little different. In 1096 Pope Urban II called upon the Christian Rulers of Europe to lead armies to the Middle East to reconquer the Holy Land from the Muslim Invaders. Many kings, including William Rufus of England, realizing that their thrones would be in jeopardy if they were away for several years, hired mercenaries to go in their places. Robin Hood was one such mercenary. He and his men were no more or less merry than any mercs before or since.

While they were fighting in the Holy Land, King William Rufus died in a hunting accident to which his brother and successor, Henry I, was the only witness. When Robin Hood and his men returned to England, somewhere around 1102, King Henry denied any knowledge of his brother’s agreement and refused to pay them.

Robin Hood and his men then took the only option available to collect what was owed them: Banditry! They gave a little bit to the people so that they wouldn’t hand them over to the King’s agents. That didn’t take much, given that all wealth was owned by the King and the people lived on the edge of starvation. In the end, they kept most of what they stole form the King for themselves

 

OWS needs to learn about personal responsibility

Common_Cents (Diary) Monday, November 21st at 2:23PM EDT (link)

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.”
-Ben Stein

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche