Nancy Pelosi retreating from insinuations of new dirt on Newt Gingrich.

By: Moe Lane (Diary) | December 5th, 2011 at 09:00 PM |

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For those who missed it:

Last Friday Nancy Pelosi told Talking Points Memo that she had all sorts of investigative dirt available on current GOP frontrunner Newt Gingrich. Specifically, “I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.”
So… Newt Gingrich responded today by thanking Pelosi for the early Christmas present and noting “…if she’s suggesting she’s going to use material that she developed while she was on the ethics committee, that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House and I would hope that members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.”
Annnnnd now we’re being told (via Weasel Zippers) – it would be cruel* of me to use the word ‘frantically’ – that what the former Speaker of the House really meant by her comments to TPM was that there was plenty of public record information about Newt Gingrich available. Not that there was any private dirt. Nope. Not at all.
Representative Pelosi then went on to reveal that the Red Sox had won the 2004 World Series and that Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has been indicted on felony charges.

I think that we can safely score this one as a win for Team Newt. Seriously, why did Nancy Pelosi not resign after 2010, again?

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*’Cruel;’ not ‘inaccurate.’

Tags: ethics, Nancy Pelosi, newt gingrich

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earlgrey

of the deliciousness of dem screwups. I hope in the comming months you get plenty more opportunities to keep doing it.
Common_Cents

And there were people on RS all worried about Pelosi’s faux threats.

Pelosi and DEMS are terrified to face Newt, if they had anything they’d release it during primary.

They want Ron Paul or Mitt Romney.
center77

the idea that there’s not some anti-Newt packet filled with dirt seems shallow to me. It’s going to be one frustrating election cycle if Meets our nominee. What really bothers me is the lobbying and his lobbyist filled campaign. The man reminds me of Obama when you talks about himself. They both feel they are so far above everyone else. I’ll say it over and over, this is bad news, bad, bad, bad news.
center77

the country, because there’s no way that logic dictates this guy Newt is going to be good for conservatism. Frankly, I personally cannot see him beating Obama, but I also thought the Republican voter was going to do their homework and pick a conservative that can win. Newt, the unregistered lobbyist is doing well, and one can only admire that, but to get behind him is a impossible thing for me to do. I would probably vote for him, but Is do it thinking we are doom.

I still feel the Newt fall will start sometime in the next few weeks, its possible Huntsman will get a second look, he used to be one of my favorites until he tried to appeal to the liberals, now I feel he does not have the will to fight to reform Washington. We do have a fight on our hands if we want to save this country. A win for the sake if winning will not cut it, and it may just set us back. Man this is like the twilight zone. Theme music starts…
DerKrieger

…he isn’t afraid to play hardball and tell the Dems to “bring it!”

I wish more of te GOP would grow a friggin’ spine and take the fight to the Dems.

Too many cowards.
earlgrey

I as really hoping you are right that he falls sometime in the next few weeks. I think his ego is just so big and I don’t think he would work with conservative republicans. He would do whatever he needed to do to make Newt look good, whether or not it is good for repubicans. Is that any better than MItt saying anything to get elected,? I wish I knew.. THat is just my feeling.
http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

We’ve been wanting Republicans to grow a pair and stand up to Democrats for decades. We like Chris Christie because he has ‘em. We liked Ronald Reagan because he had ‘em. We liked Rudy Giuliani because he had ‘em.

Newt has ‘em. Why any Republican who wants the conservative agenda would object to Gingrich’s candidacy is beyond me. He’s accomplished more of the conservative agenda, in actual practice, than any human being alive.
Common_Cents

DEMS need to confronted face to face.

Gingrich has obviously learned from his PeLIEsi couch moment and took it right to her.

I think botox has leached into PeLIEsi’s brain.
kowalski

That they’re not going to be sitting down again to do a public service announcement any time soon. So much for bipartisan comity.
cwilson

c.f. torpedoing the entire House Republican caucus by calling the Ryan plan, for which they had all just put their necks on the line, “right wing social engineering.”

Why say that? What POSSIBLE good could that have done — and what part of the Ryan plan was “social engineering” at all?

It was a total non-sensical statement, and an own goal for the R team. But it got Newt’s name in the papers for a week, and stopped people from talking about the Tiffany’s thing. (Too bad that the “attention” he got was negative; THAT part wasn’t in the plan, I’m sure).
Common_Cents

yet, they still will.

Gingrich single-handedly changed the direction of the debates by taking on the lame mods, calls out PeLIEsi, etc.. He will embarrass Obama.
logicalpositivist

But let’s be honest. Neither you nor I know who Democrats want to face. My guess is that some Democrats think that Gingrich will be the easiest to pick off, others think that Perry would be the “dream” candidate who would ensure Obama’s re-election, still others think that Romney would alienate some pockets of voters more than the other two potential nominees.

But as far as the White House is concerned, Romney has been the focus of all of their attacks since Perry’s flame-out. They won’t waste a single second attacking Newt. Either they’re trying to fake everyone out using reverse psychology, or they just can’t envision a scenario whereby Newt Gingrich rallies conservatives and political independents to kick Obama out of office. My experience in politics tells me that it is the latter and not the former. Incumbents reflexively attack the candidates they perceive to be their top threat.
logicalpositivist

I realize that there is no George W. Bush this year. But we can and must do better than Gingrich.

Perhaps the media is just getting better at destroying Republican candidates before the Iowa caucuses. That said, we must pick someone with less baggage than Newt.
windwaker24

Does anyone know who the other 3 were? Are they still in Congress? If not, what to stop her from talking to them and having them out the details outside of Congress? Or is that against the law?
blooch

Lurking just north of those Tiffany’s cufflinks is a set of forearms that’d make Popeye scream like Sweetpea. He got ‘em lugging all that “baggage”. Man, I hate that word–almost as much as “granular”.

Anyhow…like him or not, you’d best remember who you’re dealing with, woman. Now go put some ice on that….looks like “etinosmaS” or something…that welt upside your head.
http://www.patriotpowerhour.com patriotpowerhour

but anyone who has been paying attention to what he does, knows he is a big government stooge. He is bad news for America. The only reason people hate Ron Paul on this site is fear and a nation filled with fear mongers will not remain free. America is case in point and until we wish for everyone to be free and stop spending so much, we will get the nation we deserve, in fact we have it now. Romney of course is just a lefty running as a red.
Scope

than does that give a pass to Pelosi for not playing nice. The fact that Newt is saying that she is violating house rules if she brings up facts in the investigation, doesn’t that have a smell of fear on Newt part? If there was nothing there, then Newt is right to say bring it on. He isn’t saying that though is he. He is saying if she does bring it on she is violating house ethics rules. Can’t have it both ways.
mrmises

“Four of us locked in a room at an undisclosed location for a year.” That statement is clearly sarcastic. The point Rep. Pelosi was making is that Mr. Gingrich has a lot of baggage- which is true.

Don’t blow the seriousness of the statement out of proportion simply because it comes from someone with whom you disagree.
nathanalbright

….they hate Ron Paul because he is a frothing-at-the-mouth madman when it comes to foreign policy, and is a raging anti-Semite.
Common_Cents

I bet they go light on Romney from here on out. They ignored Gingrich at first w/ low polling, they wanted him out early but that didnt’ happen.

I agree there are various factions of Dems slinging arrows wherever.
sunshinek67

ha, she realizes what a polarizing figurine she is for her party, suffice to say at least 1/2 of America that pays attention wants to see her ousted. Maybe she’ll just pass along whatever she thinks she’s got, let someone else do it, like that trashcan political website that gives priority to scandal. Don’t you just know oppo groups are scouring the nation looking for the gotcha story to deflate this superficial balloon. Should he actually get the nomination, it will come out right before Election day, like Bush’s dui.

Three weeks ago, before sexgate, noone cared about Gingrich’s numbers and where his candidacy was going.
center77

I fear he will weaken this country globally to the point our economy collapses, that’s right, economy. We are connected globally, so any weakened global super power is also going to be a weakened economic super power.
tngal

Yes she is an old bag. Windbag, gasbag ,a d starts with a d, oh yeah dirtbag. I too am glad he called her on it. Not that I’m big on Newt but someone needs to put her in her place. Newt remembers how the game is played. Don’t threaten me sister, ’cause I know what’s legal and what’s not.

Although , it wouldn’t surprise me if Pelosi didn’t care if it was legal or not.
easyb

nt
Common_Cents

I think she got botox injections too deep and it froze her brain years ago.
tngal

Most conservatives tend to be friendly towards Israel. And most believe in a strong military force. While there are a few that might question why did we go to this one place or the other, we don’t discount all military actions. We’re pretty much a know who your friends are and support them, and determine who your enemies are and fight them.

Its not a small matter that can be overlooked. HIs anti-war stance is a core belief with him, and it goes against the grain for many of us.
Common_Cents

I can’t believe any conservative gets intimidated by PeLIEsi. She is the botox queen who has fried her brain. I bet she can’t even shut her eyelids.

And we are going to be afraid of that idiot?
blooch

that they wouldn’t have hit him with 15 years ago, when they were trying to drive a stake through his heart? He knows they don’t have anything that wouldn’t sound quaint or ridiculous today. I can see the headline now:

“Gingrich Smoked Pot With William F. Buckley After Reagan’s 2nd Inaugural”

If he’d just said, “Bring it, hag”, hed’ be painted as defiant, combative or churlish, and the opportunity would have been missed to show Pelosi as the conniving, lawless backstabber that she is. There’s no “there” there, and they both know it. Nice Aikido, Newt.
Common_Cents

Haha, good point. With 300 something allegations against Gingrich, I think they put all their cards on the table.

Now we have PerryKrishnas hoping the DEMS have something more. That is pathetic.
usedtobelib

be a good candidate. The question is whether he can be a good President. The trait of narcissism, evidenced by his grandiosity and his inability to get along with people, is enough evidence for me that he’d make a bad President. Obama is narcissist enough.
pj2012

The PPP poll came out tonight, I’m ticked because they tweeted the other day that Perry was in double digits, and he’s at 9%. Looks like he stopped his free fall. But I find it odd that he didn’t get a Cain supporters bump. Romney dropped 6 points though, not a good sign for him. But his support is more solid and Newts. Bad news for Newt only 49% of his supporters say they’ll definitely vote for him. Newt’s support is comparatively weak.

“Newt Gingrich has taken the lead in PPP’s newest poll of Iowa Republican caucus voters with 27% to 18% for Ron Paul, 16% for Mitt Romney, 13% for Michele Bachmann, 9% for Rick Perry, 6% for Rick Santorum, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 1% for Gary Johnson.

Gingrich has gained 19 points since PPP’s last poll of the race in early October. Also showing momentum are Paul whose support is up 8% and Bachmann whose support is up 5%. Romney has dropped 6 points since then with the other candidates mostly standing in place.

Gingrich’s rise to the top is being fueled by strong support from seniors and the Tea Party. With voters over 65 he’s at 37% leading Romney’s 18% and Paul’s 11% by 19 and 26 points respectively. With Tea Party voters Gingrich is at 35% with Bachmann actually coming in at second with 23%, Paul in third at 14%, and Romney all the way back at just 4%.

Paul’s benefiting from the lack of action on the Democratic side this year. 20% of likely caucus goers are either Democrats or independents and with them he’s leading the way with 28% t0 18% for Gingrich and 13% for Romney and Bachmann. He’s also very strong with younger voters, getting 23% with those under 45 to 21% for Gingrich, 16% for Bachmann, and 15% for Romney.

When PPP polled Iowa for the first time this year in January 57% of voters had a favorable opinion of Romney to 26% with an unfavorable one. Now he’s at only 49/45, representing a 27 point decline in his net favorability over the course of the year. Perhaps most troubling for Romney, only 48% of those who voted for him in 2008 say they’re planning to do so again this year.

Bachmann appears to be having a little bit of a resurgence. Her favorability in early October was down to 44/38 but now she’s back up to 56/35. There may be some hope for her yet. Perry’s 9% is the same as what he had in October, but given that he’s fallen below 5% most everywhere else we’ve polled in the last month it at least means he’s doing comparatively well in Iowa.

43% of likely caucus goers say government spending and reducing the deficit is the issue most important to them and they’re supporting Gingrich 34-17 over Paul with Bachmann at 16% and Romney only at 12%. 27% say jobs and the economy are most important and they go for Romney 29-24 over Gingrich with Paul at 14%. If you want a reason why Rick Santorum has never caught on it’s probably because only 9% of likely caucus goers say that social issues are the thing most important to them. He’s getting 17% with those voters but it’s just not a very big piece of the pie.

Electability is not usually a trait you would associate with Newt Gingrich but 33% of Republicans think he would be the candidate with the best chance to defeat Barack Obama with Mitt Romney at 23% and no one else hitting double digits. 57% of voters say they’re most concerned with a candidate’s stand on the issues to 34% who are most concerned about getting the candidate who can beat Obama. Paul actually leads Gingrich 23-20 with voters who care most about a candidate’s stances. But Gingrich has the overall lead because he’s at 39% with those most concerned about electability to 18% for Romney and only 11% for Paul.

There’s been a lot of discussion about the comparative lack of retail politics this year. Only 29% of likely voters have seen one of the candidates in person. Ron Paul is winning over those folks with 27% to 22% for Gingrich and 17% for Romney. But Gingrich leads Paul 29-14 with those who haven’t seen any candidates on the stump. Only 21% of caucus voters say it’s ‘very important’ to them that a candidate spends a lot of time in Iowa.

One reason Gingrich is moving ahead of Romney in Iowa? 42% of voters say they would have major concerns about a candidate who supported an individual mandate for health care to just 34% who say they’d have major concerns about a candidate who cheated on his spouse. Romney’s health care plan is a bigger liability than Gingrich’s marriages. There’s also not much evidence that Gingrich’s immigration stance will prove to be an issue. Only 29% of caucus voters think illegal immigrants who have been in the country for 25 years and paid their taxes and obeyed the law should be deported, to 44% who think they should not be. Something may sink Newt’s campaign in the next month, but it’s not likely to be that issue.

For all that there’s one piece of news in this poll that’s very good for Romney and very bad for Gingrich. 66% of Romney’s remaining supporters in Iowa are strongly committed to him. 62% of Paul’s supporters are strongly committed to him. But only 49% of Gingrich’s supporters say they’ll definitely vote for him. Newt’s support is comparatively weak. And the second choice of Gingrich voters? For 26% of them it’s none other than Mitt Romney to 17% for Perry, 15% for Bachmann, and 13% for Paul. So if Gingrich’s campaign does fade over the course of December we could end up with Romney back at the top, just like was expected all along.

Full results here
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_IA_1205925.pdf
icesweeper

Tax credits, home mortgage deductions, depreciation vs. expensing, etc. etc. etc………..
blooch

for as long as I can remember. I’ve got a good leftie friend who was complaining about Newt’s “baggage” twenty years ago…and yes, that was the term of art even waaay back then. Of course, at around the same time, this same friend left a girl he’d invited to a party at his house, left her sitting on his couch, while he went into his bedroom with another guy and his girlfriend to have a threesome! I know, TMI, but it gets worse. I was his Best Man three years later…and he was marrying the girl he left on the couch!!!!

Now, if I can tolerate that, I can manage to wrap my head around voting for Newt, should it come to that. I haven’t talked to my friend about Newt the Prez Candidate yet. Dude’s still a loony leftie, but maybe he has a secret admiration for some of Newt’s “baggage” now.
tomatin

Mark my words if Gingrich is candidate he’ll send Obama home with his tail between his legs.

I mean could you imagine Newt hitting Obama with real facts and figures about how Obama revived the welfare state with the meteoric rise in government assistance like food stamps, unemployment benefits and Medicaid.
goformitt

Maybe you haven’t heard yet, but The Newt will flame out faster than Cain or Perry. Look up egomaniacal buffoon in the dictionary. See that little pic next to the definition? Yea, thats Newt.

Newt’s rise in the polls is nothing but a sad sign of a desperate state of affairs. He would be the most easily defeated GOP candidate ever.

Plus, we will embarrass the party while engaging in this ego driven, unprincipled whoring.

A year ago we had the populist uprising of the Tea Party, today we have the epitome of an insider, lobbyist, flip-flopping, sleazebag for a candidate.

That oughta bring out the vote.
tomatin

Newt proved he could move the conservative agenda. That’s the biggest thing that matters to me.
Common_Cents

If he holds on to top 3 in IA, he’s likely to pick up much Bachmann and Santorum support. Perry will prob get a little as he can afford to stay in. RP support? Prob goes back to their head shops. Huntsman tiny support prob to Romney.

Perry needs a shocker top 3 finish to revive. He’s gonna suck in NH, not doing well in SC or FL where Gingrich is real strong in the polls. Gingrich has the largest team in SC.
tomatin

America must be the leading military power in the world whether we like it or not.

Would you rather Russia or China rise in our absence. That’s why Paul is the most dangerous candidate running.
tomatin

Newt is a “weak candidate”.

He’s polling the best against Obama now and always has been a fierce fighter.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/election_2012_archive/november_2011/national_poll_gingrich_45_obama_43
pj2012

I hope Perry can pull it off because I don’t see any other candidate I can support…
tomatin

Name a strong leader that didn’t have a stong personality.

We don’t need a wishy washy McCain type who was trying to pillow fight with Obama on how much they crossed the aisle. We need a fighter and fighters have egos.
goformitt

Playing tough when you got no bullets ain’t smart. Newt looks real tough beating up on women debate moderators just doing their jobs. He won’t look so tough when its pointed out he has agrred with almost every dem talking point over the past 2 decades.

He looks like a cowardly bully to me.
http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

backward statist economic policy, a twenty year technology gap, few personal freedoms, and an impending demographic collapse is going to somehow “overtake” us.

Honestly the fear mongering about China has moved from the ridiculous to the sublime.
http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

I do not support Ron Paul, but I do support a more realistic level of military commitment for a nation with huge deficits.
goformitt

I take it you really admire large testicles?
tomatin

Newt gets 82% TPM acceptability rating
Romney gets 58%.
Perry can’t crack 50%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151325/Republicans-Gingrich-Romney-Acceptable-Nominees.aspx

Everything else you say is just your opinion.
bs61

I’m not voting for Newt, but seriouslythe party should be ashamed of abandoning us, not the other way around.
bs61

n/t
goformitt

Wow, yea, hey thats great guys. Nothing like a little sexist aggression to show people what the GOP is all about.

If your Mom lets you use the computer tomorrow, take a minute and look up “misogyny “, kay?
bs61

thinks that Pelosi is nuts!
sethellis

Stop letting them play mind games with you. Maybe they want Romney so they’re trying to scare us away from Newt. Maybe they’re really just scared of Newt, and they’re doing their best to damage him as much as they can. Maybe they really want Newt and are just using reverse psychology to boost his momentum. Does your head hurt yet?

OR

You’re all just thinking about it too hard. I think this has less to do with trying to influence who the nominee is, and more about trying to define the battle before it even starts. President Obama’s time as president has bee a dismal failure. Dem’s know that they simply cannot win on his record. Their only chance is to make it about their opponent. Hence they take any opportunity they can to cast any of our candidates in a negative light.

It doesn’t matter who they want. We should defend all of our nominees against these attacks, and we should follow the 11th commandment to not weaken whoever might become our eventual nominee.
goformitt

The current main stream attitude supported our invasion of Iraq. We would be a lot stronger if we didn’t do that crap.
JSobieski

The problem with Newt (and I have spent a lot of time defending Newt here), is that he is the master of the unforced error.

Newt is the ultimate wildcard candidate. When at his best, he is a tremendous thinker/politician. He also has an amazing capacity to self destruct.

He is my #2 pick, and I am happy to see that he has resurrected his campaign. However, we should be honest with ourselves about the strengths and weaknesses of our candidates.

There is something about Newt in the ego department that isn’t just “another strong leader”
joecollins

. . Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangal, all the rest. Let’s get everything out in the bright sunlight.

And, let’s take a good look at all those insider stock deals too.
bs61

I’m confused, when have we been treated fairly by the MSM?
bs61

when he equates an Iranian with a Canadian!
goformitt

Actually Perry has been playing the fundamentalist card pretty hard. Endless fawning commercials on TV and radio here in Iowa proclaiming Perry’s superstitions. I think the zealots will probably go for Perry when Bachmann and Santorum drop out.

Since Newt’s numbers should start on their long, steady decline about the same time, Perry stands to get his second win about then.

If he doesn’t get a bump, then we have Mitt and Ron as the only two left with any popular support.
goformitt

Newt mostly makes stuff up and attacks the questioner. Neither will serve to do anything but embarrass both him and us.

When he faces someone who is comfortable with the actual facts, he’ll fold like a whipped puppy.

Watch Romney this next debate to see what I mean.

I’ve met Newt, talked with him face-to-face. I suspect he wears women’s underthings.
gekster

He has proven more than once he is an idiot,
and talks crap to rile up the masses.
His boy Romney is not going anywhere and he is in a constant state of denial.
gekster

Got an example, or is it just more of your worthless crap.
gekster

Start taking your meds again.
There in the square thing behind the mirror in the bathroom.
onemovoter

IOWA #GOP2012: Gingrich 33% / Romney 18% / Paul 18% / Perry 11% / Bachmann 8% / Santorum 7% / Huntsman 2% (ABC News/Washington Post Poll)

I’m seeing a bit of movement to Perry but it will be another week before we all know for sure. It will actually depend on organization on the ground in Iowa for those who will win it. It will also depend on how motivated and determined supporters will get out to the caucus. This is where Ron Paul’s support is strongest with a divided field.

I think most will stay in until Florida because the delegates are apportioned depending on percentage. After that it’s winner takes all.
sunshinek67

Think Gingrich’s baggage is going to weather well through the mainstream media for the months leading up to the Election? One good scandal could very well finish his candidacy for good. 70% still undecided in Iowa. This is not over~
sunshinek67

Gingrich does not have the ground game that the other 3 mentioned, Perry, Romney & Paul. Saying you will vote for the guy and actually getting out and casting the vote are sometimes two very entirely different occurrences.
logicalpositivist

Did he drop out of the race or is his campaign circling the drain?
acat

The give-away is in the first sentence.

An interesting choice, if true, because Waffles Romney claims to be one too…

Mew
logicalpositivist

He doesn’t have a thought-bubble. Everything that goes thru his brain comes out his mouth.

He’d be the media’s dream candidate because they could sell newspapers and get ratings by covering his gaffes and faux pas.

Gingrich would be a very weak candidate and quite possibly a disaster movie candidate.
JSobieski

It has the most scathing of paragraphs—-I put it in my signature
gekster

I didn’t know being a Christian was being superstitious.
acat

post about 7-10 tear-downs per positive.

The difference, of course, is that Tbone’s tear-downs are accurate.

Mew
logicalpositivist

Perry can’t expect any type of an endorsement from Bachmann at this point.

It looks like no sitting governor or senator wants to come within 100 yards of the imploding Perry campaign.

Romney’s got a tough patch of work ahead of him. But he has the clearest path to the nomination of any of the candidates.
snowshooze

But I think you’ve joined me in baiting poor old tomatin…lol
acat

Anyone who really believes that religious nonsense is suspect, and there’s no difference between brand A and brand C, eh?

Mew
logicalpositivist

It seems like your reason for being is to trash talk Mitt Romney. That helps out Obama a lot but it doesn’t help anyone else.

Find a new hobby.
gekster

Who would that be.
sunshinek67
logicalpositivist

You talk a lot of trash there yourself, kitty.
gekster

Please give an example.
logicalpositivist

If passing Bill Clinton’s agenda is your idea of moving the conservative agenda, then you have extremely low standards.

What, exactly, did Newt accomplish as House speaker?
sunshinek67

if Gingrich gets the nomination. I will vote for him, just don’t want to see and relive all of the old stuff hashed and rehashed, possibly even new previously buried treasures lol.
acat

who is starting to take heat for not talking to press…
who has skipped debates…
who the base of the party aren’t excited about…
who lost to John McCain, for cryin’ out loud…

has the best path to the nomination?

Dude. That’s just delusional.

Mew
sunshinek67

*nt*
http://www.patriotpowerhour.com patriotpowerhour

you only feel that way because you don’t know why we have the policies we do. It has nothing to do with liberty
logicalpositivist

You’re not for anyone. You’re simply against Romney.

Can’t you pick a candidate? Or do they all offend you?
sunshinek67

notext
easyb

We can expect every R candidate to have some last minute “revelation” of some such. Set your clock to it.

Newt’s only been leading for a few weeks, and already the hounds have been tripping over themselves to bring out Newt’s baggage. Big deal. For Newt, that’s a good thing. If he gets the nod, all of this will be old news by the time November ’12 rolls around.

Newt’s not my first choice, but I (like a lot of others) am highly motivated to displace the WH’s current resident. Some crazy allegation in October ’12 will not keep me from pulling the lever for Newt, if he’s the nominee.
logicalpositivist

Sound familiar?

It came from this very thread. You just sit around here and trash talk all day. You never have anything positive to say about any Republican candidate.

Pick a horse and sit on it.
gekster

Funny how you showed up just when goforwillard disapeared.
Are you a freet, as well as a poor mans tribble.
logicalpositivist

You seem to be afraid to put your money where your mouth is.
http://www.patriotpowerhour.com patriotpowerhour

is very powerful and we will fail because of our fears not succeed. You cannot restore the rule or law (The Constitution) nor can you reduce the size of government in a climate of fear. Your fears are also based on misinformation.
sunshinek67

nt
http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

…which is impressive, in its way: normally we turn these accounts off before they start to Death Spiral like this.

Bye.
http://www.patriotpowerhour.com patriotpowerhour

If you want security and are afraid to let people make their own choices in trade. People dislike Paul only based on misinformation or unwillingness to allow everyone to be free.
acat

I’ve said he needs someone holding his leash before. I’ll stand by it.

That said, he’s demonstrated a much better filter so far in this campaign than he did back during the Contract era. The ability of the media to take various Newt quotes and splinter the conservative coalition is what got us Dennis Hastert. The new Gingrich seems to have a better rein on his tongue.

Mew
gekster

I post facts.
Show me where I havn’t posted a fact about Romney.
Show me just one.
omegamale

Pelosi said that they have a lot of dirt on Gingrich from their ethics investigation. Newt said it would be a violation to release such material (that’s a REALLY comforting answer)

Pelosi did a CYA and made up some nonsense that she was referring to “public” information, nothing that was privately held would she ever release. TRANSLATION: I’m going to hand this “private” dirt to Obama personally if he ends up needing it.

They both end up looking bad (though not nearly as bad as when Newt decided to shoot a commercial with Pelosi about the dangers of global warming) but the difference is, Newt wants to be President, and there IS a lot of dirt on him.

The GOP sacked Newt for a reason.
JSobieski

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acat

That’s pointing out whose cheerleader uniform you’re wearing.

Mew
sunshinek67

- n o t e x t -
gekster

His numbers can’t get above 25% or so, and now he is in decline.
He is even losing out in NH.
That is not trashing, it is a fact.

And show me my trash talk.
What ya got maroon.
pj2012

you just cheered me up a bit ; )
acat

“He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither”. – Franklin.

I have no objection to freedom. I have strong reservations about a delusional old man who tilts at very safe political windmill, and ignores true evil in the world.

Mew
acat

Shine on, you crazy candi-bot…

Mew
pj2012

right?
acat

That’s not small change.

Mew
tomatin

to actually shrink government and get near a balanced budget by ending the worst part of the welfare state.

It’s not conservative to get rid of onerous regulations.

I don’t care if Clinton signed it or not. Those were big conservative goals.

Just because Bush passed a huge expansion of government with Medicare Part D does not make that conservative.

Newt’s record stands allot taller than your distortions.
pj2012

I feel a little better ; )
JSobieski

In case you didn’t notice, government spending as a percentage of GDP was actually quite low when Newt left office. The deficit as a percentage of GDP was damn near inspiring.

Far better than we have had since.
gekster

And don’t quit until the votes, people actually picking someone, tells you that you have lost.
Conservative in the primary, Republican in the general.
And at this point in time, 65-70% have not picked a candidate.
And this is with most polls.
That means the Tea Party is working, and we won’t just take who Washington and the MSM tells us who is winning.
It means we will dicide on the day we vote.
Why so many people don’t see and realise this baffles me.
tomatin

He’s also got the intellectual horsepower to deflect those mistakes.

Call it what you want but I think he’s a strong leader, his record in passing legislation in congress shows that and arrogant sounding too. The aren’t mutually exclusive either.

I’m no neophyte when it comes to politics. I don’t fall in love with candidates. I know all candidates have strengths and weaknesses. I can live with some weaknesses but Gingrich’s ego is not a disqualifier for me. I think it comes with the territory.
tomatin

We could chop a pretty big part of the defense budget and the US would still dominate.

But Paul wants to disengage completely all around the world which is flat wrong.

I don’t want to get tied down to a percentage I would cut defense but it’s more substantial than you may think.
gekster

when you are right more than makes up fot it.
Lets just leave it at that.
acat

If you had a brain to go with it, you could be persuading people to back your boy Willard.

Mew
cheetah2

its fun to see Mrs. Pelosi get slapped down no matter who did it. It at least doesn’t hurt Mr. Gingrich in my book.
tomatin

Paul would bring us to the isolationist pre-WWII policies. Before WWII our allies the British ruled the seas and we benifited from it by expanding our trade. That freedom was threatened by the Axis Powers and thank God freedom prevailed. Britain was never the same after WWII and if we did not fill the roll as freedom’s superpower we would be speaking Russian now.

We don’t know what future threats are and because the cold war is over (kinda) we don’t have to spend as much but we should never disengage around the world to let that power vacuum be filled by countries that don’t care about freedom like China or Russia.
lucasblack

Bobby Jindal as well, don’t forget. I don’t think he will get anymore, though, unless his campaign shows some real signs of life.
tomatin

and Dennis Kucinich on foreign policy. Both are just naive fools who don’t understand we live in a dangerous world. Both think we can’t kill islamic terrorists who declared war on America just because they are nominally US citizens. Yeah right we’ll just prance over to Yemen and bookem’ Danno.

Paul said “We manufactured fear about Saddam, Al Qaeda, & Ahmadinejad. (Apr 2011)”

The first is arguable but really 911 didn’t happen and Iran having a nuclear weapon does not make the world allot less safer.
avgjo

believe: if you just stand up to liberals, they’re like roaches with light shined on them. They scatter.

Gingrich didn’t stutter. He didn’t make a red-faced, smiling denial. He went for the jugular. THAT’S why he’s risen in the polls to first. The debates just gave him ( a man with little money) the opportunity to showcase this quality. If he can keep discipline and keep his fire in the other direction, he’ll destroy Obama and be the worst thing to happen to liberalism since Reagan. Mark my words.
avgjo

believe: if you just stand up to liberals, they’re like roaches with light shined on them. They scatter.

Gingrich didn’t stutter. He didn’t make a red-faced, smiling denial. He went for the jugular. THAT’S why he’s risen in the polls to first. The debates just gave him ( a man with little money) the opportunity to showcase this quality. If he can keep discipline and keep his fire in the other direction, he’ll destroy Obama and be the worst thing to happen to liberalism since Reagan. Mark my words.
don12345

It is an easy choice when it comes down to Newt and Mitt. You could either vote for the guy that thinks he’s God’s greatest gift to mankind or you could vote for Mitt who thinks Christ is.

And besides..Newt doesn’t have baggage; he’s got a landfill full of it.
don12345

There are only 2 polls where Gingrich is ahead of Obama, all the rest have him losing badly.

Obama is loving it right now. Why are we going to vote for an anti social conservative like Newt? I would take in a heartbeart Bachmann over this guy. Mitt looks like a white knight on a horse compared to Newt. The media have really messed us up as a party.
don12345

I’m calling it now. Newt will attack Newt in exactly 7 days right before the Iowa caucus. He’s got a history of saying and doing anything that makes him money. A little money from the left and he’ll say and do anything they want. Who needs Obama when you can get Obama 2.0 for a little pocket change.
tomatin

You don’t trust Rasmussen. Don’t tell me those are PPP and gallup polls.
oldmarine

Pelosi is too stupid to have a rational thought and she has nothing on Newt to derail his campaign . The damage she has wrought on the country and her heathen band of delusional socialist taxocrats that elected her speaker is being revealed daily .
bs61

And sorry that I fell for the riled up part.
okpensfan

“But we can and must do better than Gingrich.” Is there some other candidate we don’t know about?

From where I sit, Newt is the last “not Romney” standing. I don’t see any of the others ever bubbling up in this race.
aesthete

George freakin’ *Bush* is your ideal candidate?

No wonder you like Romney so much.
aesthete

Please expound on how the converse (being in the tank for Romney) is a noble tasking.
aesthete

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http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

You bring to the table the examples of National Socialism and International Socialism. Both of those were enormous threats to our society as they had many adherents, a complete ideology, and an ability to pursue that ideology on an international stage.

Can you say the same thing about the backward Islamist regimes? Can you say the same about modern China?

I don’t think so, neither one poses an existential threat to democracy or our western way of life.

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