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First thoughts on the Iowa primary.

OK, with [96%] of the vote in we can maybe start to look at the results and get some meaningful data out of them.  Apologies if any of this sounds loopy: the cold that took over the rest of my family last week finally hit me, so anything weird that I say is the medication.  Also… you’ll note that I avoided being rude about the actual Republicans running for office (Ron Paul can be included as one just as soon as he promises to support my party’s eventual nominee); I really suggest that the triumphalism be kept down to a dull roar.

So… right now it appears that Romney and Santorum are pole-positioning for first place with 25% of the vote each; Romney was ahead earlier, Santorum is ahead as of this moment, and that may flip back and forth.  Given that the difference in their vote total is unlikely reach four digits, both campaigns will probably credibly claim a win if Romney ends up with the higher vote total.   Rick Santorum is having the best night of his political life, and I figure that we can let him have it before we start pointing out anything problematical; Mitt Romney is probably already focused on New Hampshire.

Ron Paul… came in third, thank God.  If you’re wondering why he’s unequivocally in third place when the polling had him tied for first, it’s probably because most of the polling showing Paul ahead or tied under-counted the Republican vote, over-counted the Democratic/Independent one, or both (the actual entrance polling had it at 75/2/23 R/D/I).  This hurts the heck out of Paul’s chances; and, again, thank God.

Gingrich/Perry: there’s going to be calls for candidates to drop out (nobody’s going to bother trying to get Ron Paul to do it, of course); and Gingrich is going to be able to point to his fourth-place finish to argue about why it should be Perry who does so. Speaking as a Perry supporter I still think that he’s the best choice that we have*, so I’m not done until he’s done; but the non-jackasses who point to his fifth place showing as an argument for why Perry should drop actually do have an argument.  Gingrich has a lifeline, and we’ll see how that affects him in the next two states.

Bachmann… it’s over, Rep. Bachmann.  I’m sorry.  Time to start on your re-election campaign for Congress.

Huntsman wasn’t ever in this race to begin with.

And, in general: New Hampshire is stereotypically eager to put a metaphorical thumb in the eye of Iowa over these things.  Blessed if I know whether that means giving Romney or Santorum the win, though.

Moe Lane

*After the debacle of 2008 it’s going to be a long time before I support a candidate for President who hasn’t been a governor.  Preferably one who has won re-election.

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  • federalfarmer1

    Long time operator in the house minority, Engineering the 94 takeover, and speaker advancing significant conservative legislation with a democratic president, as well as a deep understanding of history and policy is more than enough as a substitute for experience as a governor.

  • sunshinek67

    that Dems crossed over and boosted Paul’s numbers? Truth? Don’t know. Why should Perry drop, he has organization, money and supporters nationwide. Santorum has not been vetted. These naysayers are just looking for a reason to pounce in RedState rooms because a tiny state like Iowa, that has a terrible history of predicting nominees, let alone Presidents has a fractured base of conservative. Indicative of nothing.

    Told ya’ll I’ll be around until the last dog dies. Please be kind lol :D

  • cajunchosid770

    I saw on cnn.com a delegate count and it showed the top 3 each getting 3 delegates and Newt and Perry each getting one.

    Is this correct? if so, then the 5th place finish for Perry is not that big of a deal nor is finishing 1st? But I also saw somewhere a delegate count for Romney as much as 14 and only 3 for Santorum.

    can anyone confirm or deny this? does anyone know the delegate count?

  • cajunchosid770

    I saw on cnn.com a delegate count and it showed the top 3 each getting 3 delegates and Newt and Perry each getting one.

    Is this correct? if so, then the 5th place finish for Perry is not that big of a deal nor is finishing 1st? But I also saw somewhere a delegate count for Romney as much as 14 and only 3 for Santorum.

    can anyone confirm or deny this? does anyone know the delegate count?

  • lightspeed

    Perry had a chance, with all of his resources and organization, to make a comeback. Instead, Rick Santorum comes out of nowhere to win the thing. That sounds like a huge vote of no confidence to me in Perry. Gingrich lost a lot of support, but still managed to beat Perry after taking the worst beating seen in a Republican primary. Perry is wounded badly and should strongly consider getting out. Newt seems to be the last, best hope at stopping Romney.

  • vaaztx

    Other
    No Preference
    Herman “Damn She Had Phone Records” Cain
    Buddy “I lost to David Duke” Roemer

    And Bachmann can be proud she beat all five of them. And Perry can be proud that six were in his rearview mirror. Wasn’t Newt gonna win the whole thing? Ron Paul’s consolation is that he’s guaranteed a second place finish in Virginia.

    Will there even be a contest in April when I finally get to cast my vote (assuming the SCOTUS doesn’t delay our primary more)?

  • lightspeed

    Perry says he will return to Texas to asess whether he still has a path to the nomination…

  • sunshinek67

    wow.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I know that the Newt, Santorum, and Romney supporters will say it is, but let?s remember that McCain came in 4th in Iowa, and Perry came in a very close 5th. Now we still have work to do, but when you believe he can do it, maybe we should not stop.

    Perry says he may step out of the race, but he said he said he is going back to Texas to assess what he wants to do. I do not think he should step out.

  • vaaztx

    75% R, 23% I, and 2% D then he’d've still been in 3rd without the Ds crossing over.

  • aj_0000

    Heavily suggested by his speech. The biggest problem we face now is that Santorum is almost certain to stay in through South Carolina. Newt will place reasonably in NH, but he really needs a big win in SC and a subsequent win in FL to derail Romney.

    If that doesn’t happen, what remains is the very real possibility of denying Romney the delegates he needs to secure the nomination. Ron Paul will help with that.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …but, yeah, it’s not winner take all. Proportionate delegates, sorta-kinda-not-really (the actual delegates won’t be assigned until later in the year).

  • vaaztx

    In the end all 10 will end up voting for the eventual nominee, making too tonight a glorified straw poll.

  • Paul_Zummo

    “Reassessing” is one step short of “suspending” your campaign.

    Sigh.

    Well, I’m on board the Santorum Express if that’s the case.

  • marktx

    I would be surprised if anyone drops out this week other than Bachmann. Why should they ? Iowa has a very small delegate count, and numerous states have proportional delegate distribution in 2012.

    Perry has already stated that he will focus on South Carolina, as will Gingrich and Santorum. Only after South Carolina will we know who the anti-Romney candidate will be.

    Who knows, a month from now we could be saying what a great guy Jon Huntsman is.

  • Carol Tarasewicz

    Please do not drop out, you have so many true conservatives supporting you. Please do not think about it.
    Please- All Red State Supporters of Rick Perry contribute if you can, I do when I can. I do not want my former Gov Romney as the GOP nominee, he will probably lose to Obama.

  • aj_0000

    Anybody who doesn’t back Gingrich at this point is voting for Romney. Look at the national polls, and the SC/FL polls. Gingrich is the only one with a chance.

  • pttx333

    to change on my end … nada. So far, no harm done as far as I can see. Two are the top three are non-starters and definitely non-finishers. Looks like Bachmann is hanging in, but for what is beyond my comprehension. And in her own birth state! Her ego knows no bounds.

    I have no doubts about the dems crossing over, and, given Iowa’s caucus rules, the entire process is nothing that really matters in the grand scheme of things.

    Hang in there Perry supporters! It isn’t done until its done … and that time is certainly not now. We’ve got a long, long, bumpy road ahead, but we can and will “get ‘er done.” ;-)

  • aj_0000

    Does he have to hit you over the head with a brick?

  • quill67

    If I were him I would have debated Newt one on one and see how that went

  • vaaztx

    Should at least wait until SC to decide whether to drop or not.

  • marktx

    If reports are accurate that Perry is dropping out, that is good news for Newt Gingrich and Santorum.

  • pttx333

    m

  • Paul_Zummo

    According to the polls not that long ago Rick Perry was a shoo-in. The Herman Cain was the man. A month ago Gingrich had this all sealed up, ahead in all the states.

    How did that work out for ya? If you’re letting polls determine your vote, then you deserve the candidate you get.

  • flagg

    The probably for Perry is that with a 5th place finish, he’s out of the media narrative and it will be difficult to turn it around. Just from watching the various networks tonight and flitting around the internet, here’s what I see as the take-aways (and in this order):

    1. Who is this Santorum guy and can he be the GOP nominee?
    2. Romney still cruising as front-runner, on his way to victory in NH
    3. Gingrinch getting ready to go for blood on Romney
    4. Does Paul have legs?
    5. (and a distant fifth) Will Perry carry on?

    How does Perry turn any of that around? By crushing the upcoming debate?! We all know that isn’t going to happen.

    He’ll do better in SC I’m sure, but he won’t win and you have to win an early one.

  • seanl

    Everyone had him at 18/19%. Whether he or Romney ends up winning by a few dozen votes is inconsequential. Santorum exceeded everyone’s expectations and is the conservatives’ best shot to put a stop to the disaster that is Romney.

  • lineholder

    It could also mean re-evaluating members of Perry’s campaign team. Erick has commented on this numerous times.

    Don’t jump the gun until Perry himself says he’s done, okay?

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Perry and Bachmann are done though.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Bigger fish to fry here.

  • trelane

    At least he went out gracefully instead of prolonging the inevitable, like Bachmann is doing.

    Hopefully his supporters will switch to Newt and not go all C4P on us!

  • Paul_Zummo

    But realistically, if he was going to win a state, this was the exact setup for him to do it. I’d be shocked if he even sniffs the top tier again.

  • uncmike

    Iowa means very little given the new proportional voting rules adopted by the Republicans. This race will go on for a long time and only candidates who are prepared to carry on for many months will be there in the end. I don’t see either Newt or Santorum as much more than flash-in-the pan candidates. Ditto “carzy uncle” Ron. Nor should they be given their significant and lengthy past records which do not distinguish them as real conservatives, or at least ones that are not nutty. I still put my money on Rick Perry to be there when the final tally is taken.

  • SoFiMil

    In God we trust.

    God bless the Perry’s with guidance at this time. Hoping he’ll get some relaxation and strengthening among family and friends in Texas. I’m with you Governor!

  • aj_0000

    Gingrich remains tied with Romney nationally. He is the only candidate in the race with any chance of beating Romney.

  • nuclear139

    Rick Perry has suspended his campaign and Newt is determined to bring down Mitt at all cost which is going to make this primary season dirty beyond words. This is not going to be good for Romney both in the primary and if he gets nominated in the general because Newt will drag him through the mud for the next two weeks. The real victor tonight which is deeply sad is Obama because Santorum is not electable and a long dirty nominating battle could damage all remaining candidates. It’s over and if Newt gets his way it maybe over for Romney to.

  • lepelerin

    I think Newt will be in contention. I hope he’s able to “contrast” himself with Romney without sounding angry. Overall, I like him. Newt 2012!

  • seanl

    We now have to focus on preventing the GOP electorate from nominating another Dole/McCain.

  • marktx

    Let’s be real…Rick Santorum cannot defeat Obama. Nor will he defeat Romney. There’s only two legitimate candidates who have the records and experience to beat Romney.

    Gingrich and Huntsman.

  • flagg

    n/t

  • justonevoice

    As Sarah Palin pointed out tonight on Fox, the GOP should be careful not to “marginalize” Ron Paul supporters. 20% is 20% — a fifth of the Iowa GOP ground troops. Of course, she would probably be banned from this site if she stated that around here.

  • GregInFla

    Play Michigan in Ann Arbor in NCAA Football game. How many voters in NH?

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Whoop-te-dooo.

  • seanl

    One loser RINO to another soon-to-be loser RINO. They were made for each other.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/mccain-to-endrose-romney-tomorrow

  • aj_0000

    Is if Santorum rises enough to split the SC vote with Gingrich and hand the win to Romney. I think anybody with any clue about political reality knows that Gingrich is a stronger candidate than Santorum. A brokered convention may be our only hope now. When you factor in Ron Paul, Romney could well be denied the delegate total he needs.

  • usedtobelib

    He turned downright butt ugly…so much for leadership. So much for discipline. Downright hairy butt ugly.

  • Paul_Zummo

    I mean finishing fourth demonstrates how super-awesome he is.

    Plus your assessment doesn’t even make sense. If Perry is out, it basically becomes a two-man not-Romney race between Gingrich and Santorum. Considering that there is no way Paul sniffs 20% again, even if Gingrich and Santorum split the vote they’ll still outpoll Romney.

  • Common_Cents

    Perry needs to endorse Gingrich in the next couple days. Palin needs to come out and endorse Gingrich.

    McCain just said he is going to NH tomorrow to endorse Romney.

  • vaaztx

    til either someone has 1,143 delegates or he gets enticed to run for some third party as their nominee (Libertarians, Constitution I’m looking at you).

  • Addison

    nt

  • aj_0000

    Will be very competitive in NV, which will be a thorn in Romney’s side.

  • powertothepeople

    as well as the Republican meeting in Laurens, now I must state it here.

    I was and am a Perry supporter and am sad to see it end in Iowa, but I am more disappointed in the new thought process of many Republicans.

    Most of the SC Tea Parties jumped on the Newt bandwagon when he took the lead for a few weeks and their thought process behind their endorsement was he was the one who could beat Romney. I stood in front of them and begged them to reconsider that mentality based on two main reasons. One was that what had made the tea party great was that they were committed to doing the right thing and supporting the right candidate regardless of the popularity of their decision or the candidate and two that it was Obama and his policies that had driven them into a powerful group.

    I told them that by bandwagon jumping they were not only going to possibly back the wrong pony but they were also throwing away the only thing they should be focused on and that was beating Obama and as many of his cronies as we could.

    I am sad to see Perry done, but he was never my focus. My focus was and will continue to be beating Obama. I am a republican and whoever can beat Obama in my party has my support. Had that been Perry, I would have been pleased, but if it ends up being Romney, I will continue to work just as hard for his victory and am still planning to have the biggest drunk fest when we rip the crown away from the bum in office now.

    I hope everyone in here continues to support whomever they prefer but I pray we do not become lost in our goal of beating Obama by becoming the beat Romney party. Romney is not the enemy no matter how bad a few want him to be. Obama and his party are the enemy and we must remained focused in him or we will call him President Obama for another four years.

  • GregInFla

    I mean, if the winner is expected to drop out, and the third place finisher cannot win, what does it all really mean?

  • dirlie

    Maybe now a real conservative will win or at least challenge Mittbott. I think a lot of you owe me an apology. I told you early on what a horrible campaign Perry was running and how poor a candidate he was. You called me a troll, an idiot, a moron. Your Perrybott chickens have come home to roost. Well I am waiting

  • kipling

    Or had any executive experience. Then he might be a more viable nominee.

  • pttx333

    McCain has endorsed Romney and will be going to NH tomorrow to campaign for him. LOL Kiss of death for Romney!

  • Common_Cents

    remember how predictive IA is. It ain’t.

  • reggie182

    What other not-Romney is there to go with?

  • seanl

    when the campaign came to Iowa Newt’s numbers dropped like a rock. I suspect the same thing will happen in South Carolina.

  • SoFiMil

    He is not suspending his campaign. He is reassessing it. There’s a huge difference.

  • tea4me

    …I think both Perry and Bachman have to drop out now. Or we’re going to be stuck with Romney. Santorum sure won’t as the winner in Iowa. Let him go forward as the 1 true conservative and go up against Gingrich. I don’t think he can come close, but if that’s the case, at least we should get Gingrich as then nominee and keep Romney out.

  • lineholder

    Newt’s already placed some attack ads aimed at Romney, being released tomorrow, win or lose, regardless of how voters respond to it.

    We need Perry in it through NH at least, just in case Newt get so flashback from it that he goes down and out.

  • marktx

    Why am I not surprised ? Now Mitt Romney has someone to do his dirty work in the next debate.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    but I do not understand why Anti-Perry people act so vile like this, why not just say hey good try, but now it is time to move on. No, No, No, you want to rub it in. Perry has so much class to think about the option, maybe he feels we need a conservative and it is better to at think about the next move. You just should be a little more nice about it, instead on saying he is doooone.

  • SoFiMil

    Plus a hopeful possibility there’s truth in this.

  • trevorb

    Perry said he’s “reassessing” his campaign, so he might be out. It’d be a shame, since I think SC is still possible for him, but remember what happened with Herman Cain.

  • seanl

    It’s time to reconcile and focus on stopping Romney.

  • drfredc

    Not much here, time to move on.

    Which brings me to the RNC calling this evening asking for $$$. I politely said, “Sure, i’ll donate just as soon and Mitch is no longer the GOPs Senate LOSERship guy.” It’s time to put him out to pasture and get someone in charge who can articulate an actual clear concise message of what the GOP stands for other than savvy trench politics.

  • lineholder

    ,

  • tea4me

    In the end, I will whole heartedly support Romney if he does win. I just hope I don’t have to.

  • marktx

    n/t

  • rtsidedragon

    The only thing more disappointing than this is Fred! in 2008. It was January then too. Perry has organization, he has the funds (I think). Why give up now because he lost in one of the most overrated primary states? In the past few decades, the only three winners of the IA caucaii (sp?) went on to POTUS. Darn.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    he has said he needs to think about what he should do, that means he is going to talk to his team and find out if there is a way forward or not.

  • liberty17

    If you’re a Perry supporter, send the governor an email at campaign@rickperry.org. Let him know that you still support him and want him to stay in the race. I just did after hearing his speech. I truly hope he doesn’t drop out, I have no idea who I’ll vote for.

  • kipling

    Ron Paul is a nut and a non-starter for many people – he will not be the nominee.

    Rick Santorum has neither the money or the organization to move beyond Iowa or to stand up under the media vetting. It was his turn as the anti-Romney and it just so happened to coincide with the Iowa caucus. He is a flash in the pan and will wilt soon enough.

    Newt and Perry may have come in fourth and fifth in Iowa but they are in the top three of long-term possible candidates who can go the distance and defeat both Romney and Obama.

  • proudgop

    I think Romney just won Iowa Caucus

    He is up and remaining places are pro his turf.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …who we only kept around because you made the moderators laugh. I mean, Sparky: you accused RedState and Rick Perry of being operatives for Mitt Romney.

    :snort: Apologies. What will they think of next? ;)

    Moe Lane

  • Common_Cents

    Any hesitation is the kiss of death. Perry had all night to craft a statement saying he is going on. He can strategize on what changes need to be made later.

    Hesitation is concession.

  • kamiller42

    Newt and Perry have been put through the media fire. They are now fighting in the teens. I have no doubt that if and when Santorum is put through the fire, he’ll be in the teens too.

    So, 3 non-Romney candidates battling in the teens, 1 will be dropping out (Bachmann), 2 are not relevant (Paul & Huntsman), and that leaves Romney with his 25%.

  • gator_hoo

    so it might be a little difficult to attribute Iowa with national priorities.

    That said, hard to see where he gets his traction from unless he has a Demit/ Tim Scott endorsement coming.

  • rharrison

    reassessing dropping out? Anyway, Perry has the $ to go the distance but, true to the mans character, won’t if he’s only going to divide the conservative vote and elect Romney.

  • sunshinek67

    Canceling SC not a good sign to continue the fight, in my opinion. I believe in God’s will, He is above it all. I am also mindful that George Washington lost 2/3 of his battles before he won the war. If Perry continues, I continue. If he bows out, I still have a great Governor of Texas that is pro-business and pro-jobs. The Texas model of enterprise and success should be extrapolated out over 50 states with a leader that everyone can trust to do the right thing.

    These naysayers that are pouncing on Perry and supporters like myself are ignorant to the facts of job creation and success, relying on soundbites within the context of a debate stage. No worries here, Emmanuel~

  • the_invisible_hand

    I’m desperate to beat Romney and Perry is done.

  • tea4me

    Or have 7% polling to debate in SC…how can she even consider staying in? She’s done and will be irrelevant now.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …until every precinct’s in: the margin is something like forty, fifty votes at this point.

  • Kyle-MI

    I am terribly not impressed with him.
    He has good sound bites.
    He would make a better president than Obama.
    His record as a politician and Senator is dismal.
    He is particularly lousy on fiscal matters.
    If he was scrutinized as much as the other not-Mitt front runners, he would not have won.
    Is this the best Iowa can do?
    sigh.

  • SoFiMil

    ..

  • tall4myage

    Hi anyone,

    I’m new here, and would like to ask an open question for anyone that will answer.

    I used to post on another conservative site, which I wont name, but you can probably guess. Recently, after reading the umpteeth post about there isnt any difference between GOP candidate X and Obama, I posted that while I didn’t particularly love X, I couldn’t swear that I’d never vote for him, and that I didn’t think he was the same as Obama…even if he wasn’t the most conservative candidate.

    For this sin, I was told by no less than the site owner that if I continued to “campaign for X” and express “liberal’ opinions, that I would be banned. When I pointed out that i wasn’t a liberal, wasnt campaigning for anyone, and didn’t particularly care for candidate X, but just that I’d vote for ANY GOP candidate in a general election against Obama, I was told that the correct “conservative” opinion would be that if candidate X won the nomination, then vote third party.

    I was upset. Partly because I’ve never been called a liberal before. But partly because I really didn’t like someone lording over me with banishment from their precious site if I dared express an opinion that wasn’t in lockstep with the official position.
    So, my question is, how is this site with regards to allowing differing opinions among conservatives? NOT talking about trolling, or attacking others or any such nonsense, but just good honest discussion and debate, which fair and respectful distances. Again, I’m sorry for the off topic post, but please excuse me as a new guy just wanting to make sure I’m in the right place.

    Thanks in advance!

  • pttx333

    this late? Lovely name you have …

  • littlehouse18

    I feel this is why he did not get more votes. They loved to shine the spotlight on him when he had problems early on, but when he started to be strong again, they made sure that nobody would really see it.

  • lineholder

    Give it a few days. Don’t expect it to be resolved this very minute. And for the sake of common decency, STOP GLOATING

  • jakeofalltrades

    and not each other. That alone will make me happy.

  • JSobieski

    Perry got lots of coverage when he was the hot new entrant.

    He received a lot less coverage after his numbers dropped.

    Santorum didn’t receive any coverage either until his numbers popped.

  • seanl

    nt

  • marktx

    In fact, Santorum rose from nowhere only after getting two weeks of positive press showing him doing well in polls. The same polls that showed Perry rising.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Perry supporters are for Perry in part because of electability. Romney is the only other person who has it.

  • the_invisible_hand

    This is a tough business. Perry’s done.

    We need to STOP Romney and Perry is no longer an option. Keep calm and carry on.

  • pttx333

    do not falter, just like I’m positive it is with you. Nor am I even entertaining a “second choice” like I’ve seen some others posting tonight. Not happening until and unless I am forced to do so. It is NOT over!

  • the_invisible_hand

    After trying to get votes on anti-Romney momentum now you come out as a Romney bot.

    With supporters like you no wonder Perry failed so miserably. All his supporters probably bailed on him at the last minute when the going got tough.

  • lineholder

    Because of the remaining candidates, there are several that are more Conservative than Romney is.

  • Common_Cents

    Gingrich needs all hands on deck immediately to go full speed ahead. He has an advantage having good polling in SC and FL and needs to get a FL ground game going. That takes consolidated resources. I think he has the largest staff in SC of any candidate. A Perry endorsement would help tremendously. A Palin would as well. I think Palin was waiting to see if Newt or Rick would outlast. I think Bachmann (the tea party patriot) will sell out to Romney.

    I just don’t see santorum more than a one trick pony.

  • drothgery

    Fine. Romney’s not that.

  • aesthete

    The insanity of the primary cycle reminds me of the lost opportunities and factitious, fratricidal wars embodied in that series. (If you haven’t read it, you really should — it’s quite good.) Fantasy literature aside, I can’t help but think that this process has revealed some things about conservative thought and the Republican primaries that we should improve upon in the coming years:

    1) Organization is *crucial*. Romney, a candidate loathed by a large percentage of Republican voters, won in large part by having strong organization in place, and a campaign that stretched back years. Ron Paul, similarly, won a respectable amount of the votes in a party which largely loathes his ideology and which finds him as a person to be endearingly eccentric at best, or loathsome and inarticulate at worst. All of the candidates were, at some point, frontrunners; of the top three, however, two (Romney and Ron Paul) were organized and established. Conservatives need to establish themselves early and often from now on in Presidential campaigns; we should encourage conservative prospective nominees to stop with the teases and reveal their intentions. Sarah Palin’s flirtations, and Rick Perry’s late entry, were both damaging in establishing an organization for either one as a conservative candidate for President.

    2) Along those same lines, our field was terrible, both this year and last year. Why? Because most of our governors with the requisite experience suck. I know, I know — Bobby Jindal, Mitch Daniels, Rick Perry, Tim Pawlenty, and Haley Barbour were great conservatives, and turned us down. Well, that’s five governors in the space of 12 years. What about the rest? Why aren’t all of our Southern governors as conservative as Haley Barbour? Why aren’t all of our Midwestern governors as conservative as Mitch Daniels? Why aren’t all of our western governors as conservative as Rick Perry? Electing conservative governors, equipping them with the tools that they need to get the job done (compliant Congressmen being the biggest tools, heh), and keeping them accountable and honest is not only good for our states — it also immediately improves our field of potential nominees for President.

    3) Iowan voters are not representative of the voting public. They continue to hoist horrific candidates to prominence based on perceived (and largely irrelevant) superiority on social issues. Rick Santorum was clearly not what one would consider to be a traditional conservative on spending, and his foreign policy is unpopular even in the party that preferred it scant years back; he has few of the relevant life experiences that make a good executive. Nevertheless, grassroots fervor catapulted him into first place alongside Romney. This is a trend which has been extant for enough Presidential primaries, that conservatives should be of a mind to reform Presidential primaries to their advantage.

    4) Presentation is important. One will note that the rise and fall of candidates roughly correlated with their ability to impress their debate audience. Yes, the debates are an embarrassing buffet of stupidity and pandering, but they are still important. Our candidates need to get better — and one way to get these candidates is to *not* defend every conservative ingenue or innocent who is savaged by the media. One will notice that the conservative heroes of the past few years have been utterly unable to communicate in hostile environments — Perry, Palin, and many, many of the other “true conservatives” have suffered because they never understood how to defend themselves from the media. Ronald Reagan did not win because he was a poor communicator — he was, in fact, called “the Great Communicator”.

    I don’t mean to be unkind, but we must give conservative politicians and media figures incentive to change this behavior: if they believe that they will get love or approval from conservatives by retaining endearing (but harmful) speaking crutches, then they will be less inclined to change them. Rick Perry started changing his debate performances when conservatives abandoned him in droves — it is clear now that he always had it in him to deliver solid performances; he was just underperforming at the beginning of the primary, for whatever reason. Conservatives should make more clear that their candidates will not get love just because they were assaulted by the media or anyone else for bad presentation or a speaking tic. It’s unfair, yes — but it is infinitely more unfair to voters to have to endure a Romney because the Perrys all came off looking like fools.

  • kamiller42

    He just said he is going back to Texas to see if there is a path forward and to get rest (unspoken). I wish he would have did it anyway without saying so. Either he’s just open and honest about his intentions or speaking in political speak that he is bringing the campaign to an end. I remain seeing the glass half full.

  • the_invisible_hand

    Guys/Gals, this is a tough business. Politics is heartbreak. Conservatives are the adults. Let’s get going.

  • lightspeed

    is Ron Paul. Ron Paul is no conservative and is an embarassment to the Republican party. I would not vote for him, even against Obama. I would sit it out. He is a disgrace, and if you don’t know why, do some research.

  • vaaztx

    Perry (and his allies) spent massively on Iowa television and radio ads. It’s not like his message was getting across.

    Only us junkies froth at every mention on a newscast.

    Santorum had made it a point to visit every county in the state, multiple times. He worked his ass off at retail politics. No one else did.

  • aj_0000

    The distance between Romney and Obama is barely enough to slip a piece of paper through.

  • vaaztx

    Perry (and his allies) spent massively on Iowa television and radio ads. It’s not like his message wasn’t getting across.

    Only us junkies froth at every mention (or lack thereof) of candidate on a newscast.

    Santorum had made it a point to visit every county in the state, multiple times. He worked his ass off at retail politics. No one else did this year.

  • lineholder

    But stop and think this through for a minute. Newt does have baggage. He’s been getting pummeled with negative ads. His national poll numbers are dropping. He’s said he would run a positive campaign. But after what has happened during the course of the past week in Iowa, he’s decided that he is going to go as negative as he has to go against Romney. Can you predict with certainty how voters will respond to that, Common? The MSM is already painting him as someone who can’t keep his word. The ads aren’t even out yet. He told him in advance that he was doing this. And they’re already attacking him.

    Perry has not said he was OUT. He said he was going to back to TX to “reassess”. And you were responding to the live feed, so I’m sure you saw Erick’s recommendation to him that if he should consider changing staff. That’s all this could be.

    Santorum can’t win in the long run. We don’t want Ron Paul or Mitt Romney to win in the long run. We have no idea of what Jon Huntsman may or may not be able to do.

    If voter response to Newt’s ads is negative and he drops nationally and become inconsequential in this race, and Perry isn’t in it any more, and Hunstman doesn’t do well, and Santorum can’t win in the long run…for crying out loud, that leaves us with Mitt Romney or Ron Paul!!! Neither of which we want, correct?

  • littlehouse18

    Though I’m in the Perry camp, I don’t understand the venom against Romney. He is far superior to Obama and no more of a flip flopper that Newt, Beyond that, he would be a much better executive than Newt, and has no personal baggage. Good executive skills and electability are both supremely important.

    There is simply no way that Newt will win, and I don’t trust him on so many issues. I believe Romney will do what the voters want, while Newt will follow his whims and ego. Plus this nation, for all its moral faults, will not elect a two-time adulterer as POTUS and install a “homewrecker” as FLOTUS.

  • aesthete

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  • lightspeed

    to challenge Mitt. Santorum has almost no money or organization outside of Iowa and is polling single digits nationally and everywhere else. The Iowa result is a fluke and Santorum will not last.

  • rharrison

    If you’re a Perry supporter (I am – full disclosure) then you’ve found home, but after tonight who knows. Others supporters are tolerated unless there initials are RP. But, I’m guessing your other site called you a lib because you were a mild supporter of Romney, no? Maybe Paul.

    Say what you want to say and if you’re called a troll or banned then find another or start your own!

    Personally, I’m not as afraid of Ron Paul as it seems many are. His domestic agenda is just dreamy and if he wants to end foreign aid – even to Israel, I’m ok with that. I say that as a born again Evangelical that is pro Israel. So there’s a mildly positive couple of sentences towards Ron Paul. See if I get hammered for them and if so then maybe that’s your answer.

  • federalfarmer1

    Do what we’ve all been waiting and call romney on his record of misrepresentation and smearing through proxies.

  • pj2012

    until Romney and Paul rip him to shreds in NH… I don’t see any way Santorum goes beyond NH or SC. Paul will probably have his claws out for Santorum’s tomorrow, he’s fast with those ads. Look what he did to Newt. I don’t think Newt goes passed NH or SC either.

    If Perry is really out it will be Paul and Romney. Romney wins. ; – (

    I hope Perry can find his way back, I can’t support anyone else.

    Thanks Iowa…

  • evilleramsfan

    Sitting here, I am amazed at the variety of reactions to the Iowa Caucii results. Some of the pro-Perry posters are either in a state of panic or of depression. A variety of supporters of other candidates are rejoicing as well as mocking the Perry crowd for what appears to be a 5th place finish. In the end, it is possible that like Mark Twain, the news of Perry?s demise has been greatly exaggerated. Let?s look deeper into the what has happened.

    Based on the Real Clear Politics rolling national poll, Perry has leveled out around the 6 to 7 percent area. He leads Bachmann and Santorum nationally. He is in 4th place at this point in time. The combination of Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, and Huntsmann add to a total of 18.8% . Gingrich, at this time, accounts for 27.2%. With this in mind, let?s look deeper into the Iowa results.

    At the time I?m writing this, 96% of precincts have reported in. Santorum looks to have won Iowa with 24.7%. Romney is second with 24.6%. Paul is a near 3rd with 21.3%. Gingrich is fourth at 13.3%, Perry 5th at 10.3%, and Bachmann last with 5%. By county, Perry finished 1st in 2 counties, 2nd in 7 counties, 3rd in 14 counties, 4th in 16 counties, 5th in 53 counties, and 6th in 7 counties. The vast majority were won by Santrum, followed by Paul, then Romey.

    What does this mean moving forward? First of all, Bachmann is done and should drop out. I will reserve judgement on Huntsman until after New Hampshire. There is only a 3% difference between Gingrich and Perry, so for either to drop out at this point doesn?t make sense. Gingrich is in a freefall at this point, whereas Perry has been level and in some cases has been gaining ground (Perry gained 4% in Iowa over the last month). Where does everyone else stand financially? Santorum is broke and unless a financial miracle happens to his campaign, he won?t be able to advertise or expand to other states. Romney still has not broken the 30% barrier and Paul is an outlier what will continue to not appeal to the conservative base. He spent a long time establishing a ground game in Iowa along with Santorum, so I?m not terribly surprised he did well. He will not continue the trend nationally. Santorum will likely crash in New Hampshire and not recover well by the time Florida comes around. With that in mind, where will those supporters go along with the ones Gingrich continues to hemorrhage? I think that Perry still has a chance to win those voters back and recover enough by the time Florida comes around to make it a contest. He certainly has the funding and the connections to still make up ground. Hopefully Perry?s reassessment of the campaign will arrive at the same results and charge forward.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …and kill the sarcasm.

  • lineholder

    and as the adults, we should take the time to think things through before acting hastily and unwisely.

  • lightspeed

    that Newt will agressively attack Romney. He and Santorum need to give Romney both barrels!

  • dansvan

    I was disappointed that Governor Perry only got 5th in Iowa, but not really shocked about it. However I WAS shocked when he said he was returning to Texas to reassess his campaign. That sounds like preparation to quit to me. I really thought he had more fight in him than that.

    I’m really disappointed by Governor Perry’s speech tonight – much more so than what a bunch of Iowans think – no offense intended.

    Respectfully submitted,
    Dansvan

  • salj

    I don’t like fox news and people like Glenn Beck are dangerous because in my opinion they’re wolves in sheeps clothing.

  • rharrison

    As Mark Steyn said last week filling in for Rush, with Ron Paul you get a great domestic policy and the foreign policy of Barack Obama so then of course he’s preferable to BO on the basis of being better domestically.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    not as for as I can see.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and I do not thinki Newt can beat Obama, and I do not think Romney can beat Obama either, but he has a better chance than Newt.

  • gekster

    I see alot of self defeatists in the cause of Perry.
    1 caucus, and you write him off.
    I seen the same thing with McCain supporters in 08, when he didn’t win and everyone started writing his uelogy.
    O Ye of little faith.
    One thing I do know about Texans, they are not prone to quit. ;)

  • evilleramsfan

    learn to listen, please…

  • dansvan

    Cause otherwise I am really bummed about Perry considering quitting.

  • JSobieski

    in their thinking in the same way that a lot of RSers are as well.

    People have a natural tendancy to dwell on one “optic” to the exclusion of all else.

    Perry’s career was overlooked primarily because of a vaccine that was never administered and instate tuition for illegal immigrants. More than a decade of executive leadership, but the immigration issue becamse a proxy for liberalism or RINOism, and Perry was overlooked.

    Newt was instrumental in addressing the kind of fiscal issues that we need to address, but because he made a video with Nancy Pelosi and worked for charter schools with Sharpton people classified him as a lib, a RINO, etc.

    In knocking Santorum, most people seem to focus on the Spector endorsement above the substance of 12 years in the Senate and additional years in the house.

    All candidates have flaws. It seems that we collectively are either unable to face the weaknesses of our candidates, or conversely, can’t place those weaknesses into some measure of perspective.

    Given the number of times we have people saying X is no better than Obama—we are clearly either saying things we don’t mean, or are plainly ignorant of who/what Obama is.

  • littlehouse18

    But kudos to Santorum for working so hard in Iowa and getting a well-deserved result. He’s a courageous and perseverant man who works his heart and soul out. Unfortunately for him he will now be crucified in the media. They hate him more than any other candidate for his unwavering, outspoken stance on abortion and gay marriage. He’s got my respect, but I don’t think he can win the general.

  • kipling

    Forgive the delayed response. I just saw your reply.

  • rharrison

    Unlike others that I won’t name, he has the class to step outside of himself and see if what he’s doing is helping the country or hurting it. If he believes there’s no or little chance of success, then why carry on and by doing so take away from a more viable conservative? If he thinks he’s got reasonable chance then I’m sure he’ll continue.

  • joayn

    ask questions – whatever. Pertaining to the voting business, the basic rule here is vote for your preferred candidate in the primary, vote for the Republican nominee in the general. No third party promotion here.

    Maybe Moe or somebody will put the link up for the rules of the site? They’re here somewhere.

  • littlehouse18

    nt

  • evilleramsfan

    n/t

  • Common_Cents

    Perry had all night to craft a full steam ahead message, he could still make changes on the fly. Especially on the heels of a Cain suspending his campaign, people and money read the writing on the wall.

    Perry’s polling shows he doesnt have the potential gingirch does in SC and FL.

    Gingrich endorsing Perry doesn’t do anything for Perry.

    Perry endorsing Gingrich helps a lot with ground game connections and also huge with fundraising connections.

    Gingrich pulled off a miracle getting 4th when surviving the worst attacks from many sides in probably primary history. Any lesser candidate would have been knocked into single digits or knocked out.

    I believe going forward, negative ads against Gingrich will backfire. The ads have already been circulated on the news etc….so they aren’t going to be new and devastating in each new state. People will get negative fatigue.
    He’ll also refine his responses to them going forward.

    IMHO, Gingrich is our best shot at this point.

  • pttx333

    Nor do I believe Perry is either. If he has gone home, I feel that it is to rethink some strategies and/or deal with some staff issues. In other words, it doesn’t mean what some of the rude, obnoxious anti-Perry folks posting here tonight just HOPE that it means.

    And you KNOW that I’m not a wishy-washy supporter of our guy. My feet are in concrete, and they ain’t budgin’ either!!!

    Mom

  • jakeofalltrades

    If you fail to plan, you plan to fail, that’s all.

  • evilleramsfan

    If he is made of what I think h is, he will look at what happened, and the finer details of what the results show. I believe a thorough review will show cracks in Romney’s armor, Newt’s continued implosion, Paul’s being supported by cross-overs, and Santorum’s eggs as all being in one basket.

  • Danielle Davis (ocleverone)

    nt

  • lineholder

    He’s already announced it. In fact, if I remember correctly, the words he used were “every minute of every day”. Win or lose, regardless of how voters respond, that’s the choice he’s made!!! The wheels are already in action. The ad is probably being printed in the NH newspaper this very minute.

    That’s the negative ads that I was talking about. And this is on top of his getting attacked in the way that he has over the past two weeks, which has dropped his position in national polls. And after he said he would run a positive campaign. Which is why the MSM has already started in on the “don’t you think that’s breaking your word” approach.

  • dansvan

    Dear Gekster

    I’m not a self defeatist – I have great faith/confidence that Perry can get it done with our help. I think most people are reacting to Perry’s speech – not his relatively poor showing in Iowa. If he decides to quit, there’s nothing that we can do about it.

    I’ve written an email to his campaign and asked him not to quit.

    Maybe it’s just time for a good night’s sleep!

    All the best,
    Dansvan

  • jakeofalltrades

    Because he cannot win with the slingshot method that McCain used.

  • jakeofalltrades

    So in a sense, I’m the only conservative in this conversation. Or we can stop fighting over labels.

  • bs61

    I’m a real maverick, not like the supposed ‘maverick’ she came here to AZ to stump for!

    Sorry, still really mad at her for that! RINO McCain for cripes sakes.

  • cheetah2

    I am very sad but I trust Governor Perry to do what is best. I believe every other candidate is in this for selfish reasons. Perry is in for love of his country. His decision will reflect that.

  • bs61

    n/t

  • jakeofalltrades

    n/takingchances

  • pj2012

    my son just sent a message to ask Perry to hang in there just prior to it being removed.

  • bs61

    This can’t be good!

  • lineholder

    of the pro-Romney establishment directly and totally at himself, along with the MSM.

  • lizzie

    I also appreciate the Perry placement in all of Iowa counties.

    I do hope that Gov. Perry really is taking a day off back home to re-assess, and will meet commitments already made in South Carolina on Th-Fr and then go to the NH debates.

    Thing is, I suspect his 4Q fundraising was weak, but he does not have to report that until Jan. 15, two days before SC.

    Losing Iowa is not like losing any other ‘election’.

    Maybe he does not want to lose South Carolina.

    btw, NONE of Iowa caucus results are binding.

    Yesterday, In Perry, he was eloquent about this being mile 1 of a marathon.

    Reputation as a very smart campaigner. Might not be such a bad idea to step aside while Newt-Romney-Santorum-OPaul multi-dimensional smackdown takes place. But, no reason to cancel somany SC events.

    Where is his resiliency?

    Of course,maybe no one really wants the job. We know Obama does not…the Presidency has become impossible for any one human.

    good time for me to spend a few days at museums.

  • pttx333

    That is the last I knew about where to post. Probably they removed the contact form on the main site to avoid a crash there. See if that works.

  • lizzie

    campaign@rickperry.org

    snail mail to PO Box 12726
    Austin, Texas 78711-9907

    When Gov. Perry read that volunteer’s letter, I sensed he just does not want to let anyone down like that.

    But, he also needs some time to comeback with a powerful foreign policy speech. This is certainly the week to do that.

    I hope he watched Jon Stewart Tuesday night.
    Maybe he wants to see what Jon Stewart says Wednesday night before making his final decision.

    Not kidding – JS influences a lot of the media.

    Well, like I wrote, time to go to art musuems. visit another century.

  • lizzie

    campaign@rickperry.org

    snail mail to PO Box 12726
    Austin, Texas 78711-9907

    When Gov. Perry read that volunteer’s letter, I sensed he just does not want to let anyone down like that.

    But, he also needs some time to comeback with a powerful foreign policy speech. This is certainly the week to do that.

    I hope he watched Jon Stewart Tuesday night.
    Maybe he wants to see what Jon Stewart says Wednesday night before making his final decision.

    Not kidding – JS influences a lot of the media.

    Well, like I wrote, time to go to art musuems. visit another century.

  • evilleramsfan

    It comes down to attrition. From what I have read, Newt, Santorum, Bachmann, and Huntsman are broke. I believe that the supporters of those candidates will coalesce eventually around one candidate of that group (including Perry). The question is where will they go? Perry is the only one who has stabilized nationally. A 4th place finish for Newt hurts him more than a 5th for Perry and will only accelerate his decline. If he can outlast and absorb the others, he will end up better off than Romney or Paul….

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    Im looking at it right now.

  • powertothepeople

    you were unaware due to my lengthy absence, when I post, it is a moron free zone.

    You may be asking why I would reply to your crap with a comment like that, the answer is simple, simply go back and read the moronic response you made and you will understand why I had to state my golden rule.

    Idiots like you will be the reason Obama wins should he win. Jesus did not run, Jesus did not win, hence no one meets your ignorant standard. But then again, Jesus would probably be on your sh*t list as well.

    We have one job and one job alone this election year and that is save this country from Obama. If you are one of the “take my ball home” losers, go debate with someone who has the patience to deal with morons.

  • lineholder

    apparently some Conservatives who don’t have sense enough to recognize the full impact of what he’s trying to do or why

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    http://www.rickperry.org/home/

  • lizzie

    good night. I actually have to drive to New Hampshire on Wednesday, and was thinking of posting “Democrat for Rick Perry” on my very old cosmic blue Saab (a winter car that is fun to drive – I would burn it in effigy these days if i had any money to buy something else that could handle winter.).

    I can not put a bumper sticker on because I normally am driving in 80% Obama country and could get road raged from a Subaru…

    see you maybe in a week.

  • lizzie

    they have a phone number but the email or snail mail will work.

  • lizzie

    they have a phone number but the email or snail mail will work.

  • annie54

    for Perry and have to leave it there. Perhaps God has another job for Rick – one that isn’t even a “job” yet. When we put something like that in the Lord’s hands, we have to accept what the answer is. We have to wait.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • pj2012

    http://www.rickperry.org/contact-us/

  • trevorb

    http://www.redstate.com/trevorb/2012/01/04/iowa-upset/

  • pj2012

    it is.

  • lineholder

    Still at holding people accountable, I see, LOL?

  • pj2012

    the email address campaign@rickperry.org as well.

  • pj2012

    nt

  • pttx333

    myself permission to have a 5-minute hissy fit, but now I’m done with that and ready to roll! It is onward and upward and all that jazz from this point forward.

    Love the idea of “Democrat for Rick Perry” on a “very old cosmic blue Saab” – perfection is what it is! What a total hoot! Would love to be a little mouse and see the reactions on faces as you drive along. LOL Gee, what a fun trip for you. Just consider me as being with you in spirit and praying for your safety.

    Have fun and be safe, Lizzie! I’ll be here – the Lord willin’ and the creek don’t rise, that is!

  • jakeofalltrades

    I told him to only drop out if he wants to and that I would max out for him in a fifty state strategy, I told him his supporters on Redstate are standing firm.

  • pj2012

    I’m an independent for Rick Perry.. lol

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Any of the nominees (except Ron Paul) would be inordinately better than Obama. I noted in a comment the other day that the next POTUS will likely appoint at least 2 Supreme Court Justices which will affect us for years. That’s only one reason why a GOP win is imperative.

    Good to see you back. Hope you are doing well and wishing you a belated Happy New Year!

  • cheetah2

    We must have someone with executive experience. No one holds a candle to Perry but if we can’t have him, Romney is competent to take charge.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    This is rightwingmom52. Started posting under my real name while you were away.

  • pttx333

    prayers are answered in His own time and in His own special way. Patience is a must here. But I do not believe that Perry has folded his tent – not until and/or unless he says he has. I DO think that he has merely gone home to regroup with his strategy/staff and will be back with us shortly. Bless his heart, he has been through the wringer. But he is a strong, strong man and will make the right decision. Keep the faith, Annie, we have a lot of cheerleading yet to do for our guy! SMILE! ;-)

  • cheetah2

    He has spent a lot on Iowa.

  • jakeofalltrades

    n/venomsacs

  • pttx333

    thinking the “right” way with tons of common sense! Good for the both of you!! ;-)

  • Ann2012

    Newt can beat Obama easily, put what’s written below in campaign ads and contrast that will our sorry state of the economy and we have victory in 2012.

    I’m so happy to hear that Newt is going to stop trying to be so polite to the other candidates (i.e. Mitt Romney, Ron Paul). It’s about time, we need Newt to be Newt. That’s how he took back the House for the Republicans after 40 years out of power.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    http://www.newt.org/newt-gingrich-record

    Newt Gingrich is the only candidate with a successful record of national leadership

    11 Million New Jobs. Balanced Federal Budgets. Controlled Spending. Pro-Growth Entitlement Reform. Debt Reduction. Poverty Reduction.

    *******

    THE STORY OF THE 1990s JOBS AND PROSPERITY BOOM IS THE STORY OF THE FIVE TRILLION DOLLAR TURNAROUND IN THE U.S. FISCAL OUTLOOK THANKS TO NEWT GINGRICH?S LEADERSHIP

    When Newt Gingrich was sworn in as the first Republican Speaker of the House in forty years in January 1995, the Congressional Budget Office projected that over the next decade the cumulative federal budget deficits would total $2.7 trillion.

    Shortly after Gingrich left office in January 1999, CBO projected that over the next decade that federal surpluses would total over $2.3 trillion? a four-year turnaround in the financial outlook of the United States of $5 trillion. A comparable improvement in the U.S fiscal outlook today would total over $8 trillion (as % of GDP).

    THE RESULTS OF NEWT GINGRICH?S FOUR YEARS OF NATIONAL LEADERSHIP:

    Eleven Million New Jobs Created By the American People. In four years, the national unemployment rate fell from 5.6% to 4.2%

    Federal Spending Held to the Slowest Growth Rate Since the Early 1950s (avg. of 2.9% a year).

    Four Straight Balanced Budgets for the First Time Since the 1920s.
    Dynamic Entrepreneurial and Investment Growth from the Biggest Capital Gains Tax Cut in History. Venture capital spending grew 500% in three years and manufacturing sector grew to 17.43 million jobs.

    Bipartisan Welfare Reform that Lifted Millions from Poverty. Within five years of the passage of bipartisan welfare reform, child poverty had dropped by nearly a quarter, child poverty in single-parent households reached an all-time low, and nearly two-thirds of those who left welfare were gainfully employed.

    Over $400 Billion of National Debt Paid Down During the Balanced Budget Years. During his four year Speakership, Gingrich led a reduction in the share of the public debt for every worker in the amount of $2,484. (Compared to an increase of $26,302 per worker under Obama.)

  • ctredstater

    To me the results are more of an indictment of the Iowa Caucus than anything else. This is the same wonderful system which gave us President Jimmy Carter and President Barack Obama (neither of whom would have become President without it). It gave us Huckabee, whose win guaranteed him the ability to create enough trouble to ensure a McCain nomination. Now this.

    To me this smacks of a group of a couple thousand people getting together and deciding they will “send a message” to the world – and coalesce behind someone who has no chance to become the next President – and whose “qualifications” – either to get the job or to do it – are thin at best. A moment of satisfaction. Someone they like gets a moment in the sun. And the country is moved further away for getting the leader it needs to come back from the brink and return to a CHANCE at Constitutional government, freedom and prosperity.

    The tragedy will be if conservatives allow the media, who will be in full “Bury Perry” mode – to write the rest of the nominating script. There are over 1100 delegates needed for nomination, and the “winners” tonight are leading Newt and Governor Perry by about five.

    I pray for a comeback by Governor Perry – failing that, ugh, I guess I am looking at a very flawed Newt. Thanks Iowa.

  • treeofliberty

    Actually, I think Romney has a very good chance of beating Obama. What political junkies that obsess over every poll and election news story have to realize (and yes I include myself as one) is that when the economy is screaming and you don’t have a job, are underemployed or are scared about losing your job…what politician x flip flopped on in MA is at best, a second thought.

    Example: Joe Six Pack come home from work. Hears a pundit discuss Romney’s flip flops on TV and if voters can get over it. His response? Hmm, well typical politician, what can you do? Anyway sure hope this economy picks up! Bob next door just got laid off…

    And that will be what the election is about: economy economy economy. As long as the GOP doesn’t nominate Christine O’Donnell or a candidate with huge baggage like Newt they should be competitive at least.

  • treeofliberty

    But that doesn’t mean you can’t show a little class and respect…particularly to a great man and great conservative like Rick Perry when he obviously had a tough night.

  • penhall99

    I feel like I did in November 2008. I am so upset about Perry coming in 5th place. And I’m upset about him “reassessing” his campaign. I hope he stays in until SC at least. I mean why not? He has a chance to do well there. But it sounds like he will probaly throw in the towel. If he does, where does that leave me? I have no idea. None of the other candidates are appealing to me. No matter what happens, at least I can say I tried. I donated 150 dollars to Perry over the last 3 months and defended him like crazy on various message boards/blogs. He would have made a fantastic President.

  • treeofliberty

    is my 2nd choice simply for the lack of serious candidates out there.

    A great point about Newt and flip flops…I don’t get why he’s the conservative hero all of a sudden. He’s sat on the couch with Nancy PELOSI…one of the worst , most vindictive, leftist Democrats to hold elective office (and thats REALLY saying something), endorsed Dede Scuzzy-whatever over Hoffman, said stupid things about Paul Ryan’s plan and “right wing” social engineering…I could go on but truly fail to see why he has become the darling of so many here.

    Personality wise he appears arrogant and condescending …particularly when he’s angry, which is the direction he seems to be headed. Morally…well not gonna go there, but both Perry and Romney are far superior in that category as well.

  • tonotisto

    With Perry out, Romney will soon brush off the one hit wonder and the Establishment hates Newt. So….

    On the National stage, we may have lost the Pres primary to the Moderate Repub, But , we must not give up on the Senate and Congress to the Progressives too.

    Many of us will now be concentrating on State & Local races to win back the Repub party for Conservatives.

    If the worst of the worst happens and BO is reelected, we need Conservatives in all levels of Govt to keep him at bay.
    I
    f Romney is elected, we need conservatives to continually remind him that he is a Repub and still needs us.

    But, I’ll admit, I am in mourning for our country.
    Santorum the “conservative” winner, Perry out? As of tonight, I feel like the RINO, ‘

  • tonotisto

    Perry out, opens the way for a Romney wrapping it all up in Florida. The news and blogs will pump the race, but one hit wonder and Newt cannot beat the Gov’s machine.

    I hope I am wrong.

    Maybe, I’m in still in shock that Iowa could pick Santorum over Perry and Newt. My fellow Evangelicals really dropped the ball.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because, rather than expending pixels in an effort to “hammer” you, the RS-bloggers chose simply to ignore you.

    Jus’ sayin’….

  • Finrod

    Given how much crap Perry supporters have thrown at everyone else, it smacks of whining to complain when some of that comes back in your direction. Sure it’s not fair, but life isn’t fair.

  • Finrod

    Haven’t seen Perry or Romney admit many mistakes recently. Heck, Romney is doubling down on stupid by continuing to say that RomneyCare is a good thing. Newt freely admits that the couch ad with Pelosi was the dumbest thing he’s done in years. If more politicians would admit mistakes politics would be far less of the crapfest that it is.