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The Maryland (and other States) Primary Results Open Thread.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  April 3rd, 2012 at 08:30 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Maryland’s getting pride of place because it’s a) where I live and b) has actual, non-Presidential primaries tonight.  Presidential primary results here: Maryland’s state results are going to be… here, I guess.  Looks like (as of 8:30 PM) Romney won DC & MD; Dan Bongino is ahead in the MD-SEN nomination; and the may-not-recognize-her-luck Nancy Jacobs is ahead in the absolutely vital* MD-02 race.  Polls close at 9 PM in Wisconsin.

Open election thread.

*Look, I’ve been stuck dealing with either Steny Hoyer or Elijah Cummings as a representative since I moved to Maryland.  This is the first time I’ve lived in a Maryland district that merely has a single-digit Democratic PVI: people can let me have this.

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  • Leon H. Wolf

    Who was the last player to hit more than 40 HR in a season while striking out less than 40 times?

  • Tbone

    It’s a guess not a google.

  • Ender

    in Maryland tonight, and probably will do somewhat less well in Wisconsin. But definitely great enough to beat Romney for the nomination.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    has never come within ICBM range of hitting 40 HR.

  • lapert

    nt

  • zachv

    How’s is Santorum beating Romney for the nomination if he loses both Wisconsin and Maryland?

  • kowalski

    Just for the sake of Meat Loaf

    Song of the Primary Season on our side of the Ditch, I think.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8JA9Qs2Mho

  • Ender

    Santorum math. He will explain it to us later tonight from Mars.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    Be honest, did you Google? :)

  • kowalski

    I didn’t realize it was about this song until after I’d awaken, the dream was about two people I didn’t recognize in a very poignant relationship who were obviously connected and yet there was some “grey area” that separated them, something not quite right between them that had caused an epic fight. The dream took place in the aftermath of the fight and it was up to my interpretation to go back and piece together the antecedents.

    It was a beautiful dream in terms of film production values and I couldn’t figure it out until about two cups of coffee – then I realized: That’s my dream representation of that song! It’s Meat Loaf! Christ.

    Yes I listen to my own voices and I’m proud I do. :)

  • Leon H. Wolf

    As of today, which stadium has hosted the most Major League baseball games? Hint: it isn’t Fenway or Wrigley.

  • lapert

    No, but I did hear this question at a quiz night at some point in the last few months at a point in the night when I was still sober enough to recall it…

  • clintonformccain

    victory speech from the Newt. :)

  • retrocon87

    nt

  • Ender

    are going to cover that… I mean enough is enough, time for Newt and Santorum to unite… Or something, for something.

  • retrocon87

    just read the “hint”…

    RS really needs to add a “delete” option for posted comments…

  • Ender

    He wants to go to sleep early tonight, with a smile on his face. It’s halftime and he is ready to win it all in PA.

  • Ender

    by winning democrats by 37% to 19%, though losing republicans slightly by 51% to 37%. We’ll see how it pans out.

  • zachv

    Also, LMAO! He is speaking from Mars. I was thinking that was a pretty odd exaggeration to make.

    … the two Madison, WI school board candidates that were teacher union endorsed just kicked off tonight with a massive vote lead. Depressing.

  • septembergurl

    at 11 AM today, one of two voters in the polling place at that time and possibly the first Republican. The only signs I saw were for Ron Paul & Anthony Muse (black Dem challenger to dem Senate incumbent Cardin).

    I voted for Jon Huntsman in the Presidential race and for Dan Bongino in the Rep Senate primary. He is an excellent candidate and will take the issues to Cardin in the fall, though it will take a miracle for him to oust Cardin (a Dem hack of the worst kind).

    I live in the 3rd CD and my Congressman is John Sarbanes. Yep, son of Sarbanes-Oxley. I voted for Eric Knowles in the Republican primary mostly because he ran for governor of MD on the Constitution Party and won 1/2 of one per cent.

    Maryland is a very Democrap State. Moe knows what I mean. All the statewide offices are Democrap and there are two Republican Congresscritters — chris Harris who is unopposed in the Eastern Shore district, and Roscoe bartlett, who holds a Western MD CD that has been redistricted to make it less Rep and also faces a Tea Party opponent in the primary. He’s a good guy, though.

    It’s like living in Massachusetts.

  • gekster

    Just a guess, but ya took away my first two picks right off the bat.
    (yes, being puny)

  • Ender

    But he is very humbly comparing himself to Washington. He is about to win the whole thing. Frankly his whole shtick is really grating on my ears.

  • lapert

    I would have guessed Fenway, but is it the old Yankee Stadium (maybe playoff games made up for the fewer seasons)?

  • demsaresatanic

    We believe you.

  • CarolT

    I wanted Perry to win but Santorum just said that no republican in 120 years has beat a dem incumbent except a true conservative. I’m sorry, but Santorum is no Reagan.

  • lapert

    Has to be good for something – and when combined with a decent memory for trivia this turns our to be it.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    -nt

  • acat

    Simply because the Sox aren’t that great.

    Mew

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I am pretty sick of Fox News, Romney, and these MSM like tactics. Allow the whole thing to play out, Santorums speech was pretty good. They could have called the race after Santorum was done slamming Romney, but they have protected him this whole cycle. It is kind of lame that Romney could not win this think by himself.

  • Ender

    CNN calls Wisconsin for Romney – 3:0 tonight. It’s “halftime”.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and that is not meant to be a joke, they seem a lot like, and they both think/thought their business back ground made them better presidential prospects. They both were blue state governors; I think that in Carters case he was very blue. I am not sure, either way, I am sure Romney is no Reagan. We need to stop looking for Reagan until we learn how to beat the establishment.

  • clintonformccain

    NT

  • gekster

    That’s all I got without a search.

  • lapert

    What is it an n of 2? And Harrison lost it right back to the same Democrat.

  • snowshooze

    I wouldn’t make a call either way with 7%

  • Leon H. Wolf

    incorrect

  • snowshooze

    39 to 41 and 7% are both Politico numbers. The call is made by CNN.

  • aesthete

    We’re talking about Santorum. Of course he’s going to blurt out whatever stupid comparison or statement comes to mind without giving it some

    It’s the Law of Santorum: The sum of all Santorum public statements will eventually converge to a likability rating which is equal to (Q(n_0+1)^1/2)/2

    Where n_0 is the number of inches the average person’s eyebrows went up when they first googled Santo’s name, and Q is Santorum’s IQ level.

  • lapert

    It’s the only one I can think of that shared the stadium for any real length of time

  • buddha1556

    I actually tried to search b/c I’m impatient and wanted to know, but struck out. Didn’t more than one team used to play there? That’s my reasoning.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    It almost makes me excited to have him as our nominee, I wish I could believe what he is saying right now.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    no text

  • zachv

    Milwaukee and the Waukeshau/Ozaukee/Washington areas. Santorum didn’t (doesn’t) stand a single chance.

  • kowalski

    I really don’t know, I would have guessed a current stadium but I think maybe it’s one that has been demolished.

  • Jack_Savage

    At least it has hosted the most fights between umpires and players.

  • civil truth

    The question should reduce to the number of seasons that have been played, as postseason doesn’t have enough home games to override the season. That probably then brings it down to one of the original set of 16 AL + NL teams, if there’s one that hasn’t succumbed to the “build a new stadium” fever.

    Without further research, and at the risk of embarrassing myself, I would guess Cleveland or Detroit.

  • Jack_Savage

    Got confused with the detested Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.

  • kowalski

    (nt)

  • Leon H. Wolf

    All I can say is that it isn’t Fenway, which should answer that question.

  • Tbone

    ;-)

  • Jack_Savage

    But the umpire vs. player fight under the stands at Griffith is a great little piece of trivia. The player was famous, and the umpire is also in the Hall of Fame.

  • kowalski

    ?? Maybe

  • gekster

    Are you talking only active stadiums, or ever.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Nt

  • snowshooze

    Surprising, actually.

  • zachv

    The precincts in the city of Madison are reporting huge support for Santorum. from the progressive of the progressives.

    Romney / Santorum
    MADISON WD 39 — 21 / 83
    MADISON WD 40 — 39 / 195
    MADISON WD 41 — 48 / 195
    MADISON WD 42 — 26 / 158

    Compare that to the circuit court races:

    Burz (Progressive) / Allen (Walker appointed)
    MADISON WD 39 — 325 / 89
    MADISON WD 40 — 756 / 221
    MADISON WD 41 — 688 / 261
    MADISON WD 42 — 561 / 78

    Santorum support at 82.5%
    Anti-Walker Burz support at 78.2%

  • rabun1016

    LA Times reports Santorum takes 53% of Democratic vote. Open primary.

  • snowshooze

    I wouldn’t yet…

  • snowshooze

    But Rick isn’t far behind.

  • Jack_Savage

    Birmingham, AL?

  • Ender

    keep at it man. Keep rocking on with Ricky. You are about to win in Wisconsin!

  • Common_Cents

    nt

  • zachv

    Santorum’s gonna do it!

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Fourteen freaking points. Fourteen points is not “slightly”, by any measure. And “winning Democrats” who will be voting en mass for Obama is some kind of a good thing? And since Romney is winning both conservatives and tea party folks and Santorum is winning Democrats I guess there are a couple of conclusions. People think Romney is more conservative than Santorum. Democrats think Santorum would be a push over for Obama.

    Tonight wasn’t close. It was a freaking wipe out.

  • Ender

    From CNN exit polls: http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/wi?refresh=1

    Vote by Party ID:
    Romney Santorum
    Democrat: 23% 43%
    Republican: 51% 37%
    Independent:37% 34%

    We can see why it is close.

  • naraht

    120 years ago was April 1892 and Harrison(R) beat Cleveland(D) in 1888. Cleveland beat Harrison for the second time in 1892…

    Since 1892, the Republican presidents who have taken over from Democrat are McKinley, Harding, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan and George W. Bush. Of those, only Reagan defeated his predecessor.

  • snowshooze

    I am unimpressed with the entire field, the truth be known.
    And watch you trap.

  • retrocon87

    no text

  • SoFiMil

    Whose your favorite White Sox player ever, Mr. President?

    My vote: Wrigley Field

  • kowalski

    “Maybe Enough Delegates, By 2016?”

    And he’s right. Enough’s enough.

  • CarolT

    I live in MA, and we suffer from Romneycare with huge premiums and co-pays since it started July 1, 2007. Mitt signed the law in April 2006. If he was so proud of it, he should have made it effective July 1, 2006. That’s our fiscal year, but Mitt wasn’t going to reelected and he knew it.
    This state is so blue it’s sick. I can hardly talk to anyone, a few people at work are republicans but not conservatives. They were for Romney from the beginning.
    If we could say anyone in the race resembled Reagan, it would be Perry, he was always smiling and optimistic. Yes, I know he sucked at the debates and thought then it was too soon for him to stand for hours so soon after his back surgery. I have had two neck surgeries, I’m sure they were similar to what Governor Perry had.

  • kowalski

    Montgomery Blair High School, after all. Having spent a lot of time as a kid right off of New Hampshire Ave. in Silver Spring visting my relatives, I admire the spirit.

  • riverwood

    Munipal Stadium in Kansas City? Royals, and Monarchs?

  • lapert

    Gave him the benefit of the doubt by including Harrison. But I guess Romney’s retort could be that no republican in over 120 years has beaten a democrat incumbent whose name didn’t begin with an R and had only two syllables in it. I mean, with that in mind how could we possibly risk it with anyone else.

  • snowshooze

    Poor hopeless souls, lost in the seas of darkness.

  • gekster

    Ebbits field, where the Brookland Dodgers played.

    (it obviously is no longer in use)

  • CarolT

    He dd compare himself to Reagan, saying one candidate had won only one primary up until May,but that was in 1976 and we know Reagan lost.
    I have the television on but am not paying any real attention to it, except when someone says something good, I don’t hear all of what is said.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    Have just read through all the comments and all the guesses so far have been wrong.

  • naraht

    There are still Republican congressmen in Maryland.

    For the redistricting, they mostly took Van Hollen’s 8th District (Heavily Dem) which is based in Montgomery County just north of DC and Bartlett’s 6th District which is based in Western Maryland and twisted the border between them to attempt to make two districts which were Majority Democrat.

    As for defeating Cardin, I’d count him as one of the 5 least endangered Senate Democrats. In order for him to be defeated, you’d either have to see a massive scandal involving Cardin or a National level sweep that would be the most significant in the age of popular election of Senators.

  • kowalski

    Believe it. Where do you think the liberals from Chicago who don’t want to live in the Chicago suburbs live?

  • snowshooze

    But I kinda hate them both…

  • SoFiMil

    .

  • retrocon87

    A’s/Phillies?

  • SoFiMil

    ..

  • Ender

    Of course you are right. The only reason it was not a blowout in Wisconsin is because of the Dems and Indies voting in the open primary.

  • demsaresatanic

    Maybe you left out some elections or something.

  • kowalski

    It has to be prior to the start of the 20th Century. Since I don’t know the answer outright and I cannot think of it by deduction or induction I’m not going to try and google it and take guesses any more than that. I’m not a big enough fan/historian of professional baseball to know it.

    Someone please come up with the answer so at least we know! I’m guessing it has to be a stadium/venue that is pre-20th Century at this point.

  • SoFiMil

    this primary’s far from over. Then I saw the internal numbers.

  • SoFiMil

    ; )

  • Jack_Savage

    Maybe?

  • snowshooze

    We in Alaska are so divorced from the in-fighting…most us don’t drive around with bumper stickers.
    I don’t even understand sports…they don’t even make sense to me.
    We are, some of us pioneer stock…
    Well, we honestly have no point of reference.
    Grown men…playing with a ball… getting paid?
    Grown men do not play with balls.
    If they did, they’d be some kinda pervert.
    Grown men conquer the wilderness, win the girls… break stuff and build things hereabouts. Oh.. and we kill animals. Then eat them.
    So… we sometimes miss some of the subtle stuff.
    But we really don’t care.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    It’s been a long day and I’m having problems getting my eyes to focus. Missed the snark tag.

  • Bill S

    …

  • Tbone

    My eyes have seen the glory of the whuppin’ of the Rick

    He looks like he is out of gas and he’s developed quite a tick

    The Mittzer opened up his purse to buy a neat hat trick

    The nomination’s his.

    Now it’s time to shake the Etch a Sketch so the middle thinks he fair

    He will beat King Barry handily and just on a double dare

    He will reform the healthcare system and call it Romneycare

    You conservatives are screwed again

  • snowshooze

    Really close down there.
    Anybody got fresher stuff?

  • http://www.unifiedpatriots.com/ pilgrim

    The ballpark was initially built in 1887. At that time the media praised it as state-of-the-art.

  • snowshooze

    Ok…a soothsayer you are.

  • kowalski

    Same as it is everywhere but a lot of the MOST liberal people I knew who didn’t want to live in the city in Chicago and also *didn’t* want to live in the “collar counties” of Chicago (which are vastly more conservative than the city proper) made their homes in Wisconsin and there are a lot of others. Drive a few miles past the northern Illinois border and it was like a little lefty utopia in a lot of cases. You take the El from the city to the northernmost stop, get out at the park n’ ride, and drive back home to good ol’ ultraliberal parts of Wisconsin.

    When you look at the map the demographics aren’t that strange. It’s only about 50 miles Chicago to Kenosha – about an hour’s commute. Now ya know.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    nteeeeee

  • snowshooze

    They is tough to come by, at the re-education camps in Montana.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    may yet escape Purgatory…

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Cincinnati, Ohio.

  • kowalski

    At least, I hope you’re right ;)

  • snowshooze

    In Appleton, because they live on highway 10/22 and I have to report to my post office in=person to try to explain it.
    Their eyes glaze over.
    We ain’t got but three highways in our whole State, and it is just wrong that one address could deserve two highways in Wisconsin.
    Funny.

  • honeybadger

    in St Louis

  • Leon H. Wolf

    I have to go to bed momentarily, so I am just going to give the answer, which is Sportsman’s Park in St. Louis, which was home to the St. Louis Browns and St. Louis Cardinals for a combined total of over 110 years.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    with the correct answer before I gave it.

  • kowalski

    Beautiful answer, really. Glad we got it tonight.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    that the St. Louis Browns were a major league baseball team. You can’t really blame them, as the St. Louis Browns players mostly forgot during their playing days, as well.

  • kowalski

    Almost guessed it. I had thought of a connection to the Orioles but didn’t pursue it. Now I know what baseball cap to wear when I visit Baltimore ;) .

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Perry had a few initial gaffes but, during the latter debates…he was impeccable!

    Compare/contrast his “Oops!” moment with the ongoing errors that are now tolerated from Mitt.

    Then ask yourself whether the SCUM {so-called unbiased-media, pe Flagstaff} has subtly infested the narrative even on RS.

  • The_Gadfly

    before this thread opened. Even in Santorum had won last night, he still would have lost. He once again failed to field ANY delegates in the State.

    http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2012/04/03/daily-links-april-3-2012/#comment-8570

  • rabun1016

    This whole race is now coming into view. Santorum just doesn’t like to work if the alternative is running for some public office. Some people feed off that energy. Many of them are Democrats. And all love the government dole, euphemistically referred to as public service. We have one in the White House.

  • Bob_Frazier

    For a lot of reasons, I’m betting it was Chick Gandil.

  • Bill S

    Bill Veeck didn’t help matters much either.

  • hls87

    I went around 4:00 pm. I was the 22nd R voter at my polling place. There were ten voting booths and I had my pick. I was in and out without seeing another voter.

    I think people have figured out that the marquee event was over long ago.

  • zachv

    Very impassioned defense of conservatism. I’d link you to it but I’m on my phone and thatd be a battle.

    That reminds me, how does one embed a Youtube video. Specific tags?

  • gekster

    To embed a video that you want to embed, look a the bar below the video.
    You will see ?share?.
    Click on that.
    Let that load.
    A little lower, you will see embed.
    Click on that.
    Let that one load.
    Lower you will see some boxes of various sizes.
    Click on the smallest one.
    Above the boxes is a list of items.
    Click on ?use old embed code?, and make sure none of the other boxes are checked.
    Above that you will see httlm code, and if it is all in blue, right click in the box, and select copy.
    If it is not in blue, right click in the box, click select all, and it will make it blue,
    then right click and select copy.
    To put it in the comment box, right click in the comment box, and click paste.

    note: it will show the embed code until you post your comment.
    then the video will show.

    (Like this)

  • clowngirl

    I’ll vote for the nominee. I’ll serve as a delegate at the state convention (though I haven’t yet decided how I’ll vote — probably for Newt delegates if any are offered and otherwise for Santorum — on the logic that I was selected when people knew I was a Newt delegate and my district went for Santorum – and, as they selected me overwhelmingly over the Romney supporter, I don’t think they would want me supporting a Romney slate)

    But other than that – I foresee a very enjoyable Spring and Summer engaged in activities that are totally non-political — perhaps donating to some local candidates — then I fully expect to get sucked in by some close and crucial House and Senate races (there are a couple candidates here in CO who spoke at my county’s assembly and who are looking to unseat a couple of particularly annoying incumbent Democrats in the US Congress that I’ll be proud to support) Maybe I’ll even feel inclined to pitch in and support Romney come October.

    More likely though, I’ll throw support to those I can back more wholeheartedly.

    Till then, other pursuits are calling. So so long RedState! (For now)

    To those who will be sticking it out and can dive straight into supporting Romney — I admire the strength of your stomachs but just don’t share it.

  • snowshooze

    But I really enjoy the banter, if nothing else.

  • clowngirl

    and so the policy will soon become “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”

    And, unfortunately, I don’t have anything nice to say.

    I remember how annoyed I got in 2008 with people who kept complaining about McCain way past the point when he had secured the nomination and I don’t want to be like that.

    But I also don’t feel obligated to actively support a candidate who has employed the kind of tactics that we’ve seen from Romney. It would be different if I felt he was winning fairly. I don’t.

    Maybe, as a relatively new Republican, I haven’t come fair enough in party loyalty — but I can’t pretend otherwise.

    So I’ll be taking a nice – probably fairly long – break, voting for the lesser of 2 evils for President, and supporting candidates for which I have genuine enthusiasm.

    Maybe as part of the grieving process I’ll write a Gingrich post mortem . :(

  • snowshooze

    And we probably deserve it.
    Garbage in, garbage out.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    look so bad.

    Republicans have been shooting at one another for months with howitzers and Obama has pretty much gotten a free pass. On a national basis he’s plus or minus up to five points vs Romney. That should change when the heat gets turned up. How well we push it is another story, but things don’t look so bad.

  • snowshooze

    And any trailing number…is bad. He is the top dog amongst them…

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    And anything within the margin of error right now is just fine.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    the Browns were something like 35 games out of first place. IIRC, Veeck owned the Browns for a span of 2-3 years, which doesn’t really account for 6 decades of unmatched futility. Compared to the Browns, the Senators were a pennant machine.