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RNC: People v. Obamacare. [UPDATED.]

Commendably fast of the RNC:

Also, Mitt Romney just finished his press conference. He understands the basics: this is a 500 billion dollar tax hike* on the American people, it will not stand, and so if elected President Mitt Romney will KILL IT WITH FIRE on day one. And that’s pretty much how it has to go. If you want Obama’s health tax gone, well, you won’t get that scenario from the Democratic party. They’re just too invested in Obamacare to stand up to the President.

[UPDATE: Here's the video of Romney's presser. Text after the fold.]

MITT ROMNEY: “What the Court did not do on its last day in session, I will do on my first day if elected President of the United States. And that is I will act to repeal Obamacare.

“Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do. What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it’s good policy.

“Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It’s bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today. Let me tell you why I say that. Obamacare raises taxes on the American people by approximately $500 billion. Obamacare cuts Medicare, cuts Medicare, by approximately $500 billion. And even with those cuts, and tax increases, Obamacare adds trillions to our deficits and to our national debt and pushes those obligations on to coming generations. Obamacare also means that for up to 20 million Americans, they will lose the insurance they currently have, the insurance that they like and they want to keep. Obamacare is a job killer. Businesses across the country have been asked what the impact is of Obamacare. Three quarters of those surveyed by the Chamber of Commerce said Obamacare makes it less likely for them to hire people. And perhaps most troubling of all, Obamacare puts the federal government between you and your doctor.

“For all those reasons, it’s important for us to repeal and replace Obamacare. What are some of the things that we’ll keep in place, and must be in place, in a reform, a real reform, of our healthcare system? One, we have to make sure that people who want to keep their current insurance will be able to do so. Having 20 million people, up to that number of people, lose the insurance they want, is simply unacceptable. Number two, got to make sure that those people who have pre-existing conditions know that they will be able to be insured and they will not lose their insurance. We also have to assure that we do our very best to help each state in their effort to assure that every American has access to affordable healthcare. And something that Obamacare does not do that must be done in real reform is helping lower the cost of healthcare and health insurance. It’s becoming prohibitively expensive.

“And so this is now a time for the American people to make a choice. You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you’re comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you’re willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want.

“This is the time of choice for the American people. Our mission is clear: If we want to get rid of Obamacare, we’re going to have to replace President Obama. My mission is to make sure we do exactly that. That we return to the American people the privilege they’ve always had to live their lives in the way they feel most appropriate. Where we don’t pass on to coming generations massive deficits and debt, where we don’t have a setting where jobs are lost. If we want good jobs and a bright economic future, for ourselves and for our kids, we must replace Obamacare. That is my mission. That is our work. And I’m asking the people of America to join me. If you don’t want the course that President Obama has put us on, if you want instead a course that the Founders envisioned, then join me in this effort. Help us. Help us defeat Obamacare. Help us defeat the liberal agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive, and is killing jobs across this great country.”

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Believe it or not, but the White House is STILL trying to pretend that the health tax is a tax cut:

  • First, the health insurance reform bill being considered in the Senate does not raise taxes on families making less than $250,000 – in fact it is a substantial net tax cut for American families. The bill being considered represents a substantial net tax cut for middle income families. According to the independent Joint Committee on Taxation, the bill will provide nearly $450 billion in individual income tax cuts over the next 10 years.

Via @edhenrytv. How long before the White House memory holes that lie?

COMMENTS

  • califgal

    In the final bill that became law, law that SCOTUS has now upheld, do the citizens of New Hampshire and Nebraska have to pay this “tax” or be fined, or are they exempted from it while citizens of the rest of the 48 states do have to pay the tax?

  • bk

    and we add how much the cost really is, will it be the first $1T tax hike?

  • califgal

    “First, the health insurance reform bill being considered in the Senate does not raise taxes on families making less than $250,000 ? in fact it is a substantial net tax cut for American families. The bill being considered represents a substantial net tax cut for middle income families. According to the independent Joint Committee on Taxation, the bill will provide nearly $450 billion in individual income tax cuts over the next 10 years.”

    How do we fight that. How do we prevent the usual he said/she said, Dems said/Repubs said meme that so turns off the voters we have to get to vote GOP?

    We can expect to hear Obama and his minions repeating this over and over, that unless you make X amount of dollars, you just got a tax cut.

    I suppose Romney could then say, “If it’s a tax cut for all these members of the middle class, when can they expect their checks in the mail?”

    Sometimes the GOP is not effective with the average voter, who reads on the 7th grade level–The one pol who is good at simplifying language and great in his delivery is Rubio . I like Rubio a lot for that reason and was, until today, content to have him stay as senator from Fla, but because of his ability to say things concisely, I am thinking he may indeed need to be our VP choice.

  • evilbloggerlady
  • califgal

    clause” when the ONLY ONE MEMBER OF THE MAJORITY opinion said it was?

    The other 4 members of the majority upheld it, I believe, on the basis of it not violating the commerce clause.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Find your state and get registration information.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    If so, then it can be immediately brought back to court as no taxes can originate in the Senate.

  • misty

    30% of people think they are registered and are not. This election is too important, if you care and want to get rid of the dems and Obama, you have to register to vote. Go to glennbeck.com and click on the box 1234 and click on 2 and find out if you are registered, if you are not, please get registered.

  • rabun1016

    I am not voting for any Senate or Congressional candidate who does not at least openly express some reservation about Boehner or McConnell. What a pathetic duo that does not advance the ball.

    The change for health care has to come in Congress! The two bozos we have leading the rep party could not persuade their step children or their tanning bed operators regarding good policy choices. Sad, sad, sad.

  • rabun1016

    If so, how did the lawyers miss that issue? That would seem to be pretty obvious.

  • Ender

    the opinion of only 4 does not hold. Those same 4 then had to agree with Roberts, so that made it 5 on his view.

  • jaykitsap

    but not at SCOTUS, it basically said this is a political issue and needs to be addressed politically.

    I am now FIRED UP to defeat every remaining D that voted for this POS bill as well as Dodd Frank which is also horrible. The 2010 Tea Party uprising is not enough. Hang this taking of our liberty around every D’s neck as he campaigns. We have to do every thing possible to send Obama and his ilk home this November.

  • http://MichaelHarrington.org Michael Harrington

    If it was added there does this mean we win when we sue for it being a tax originating in the Senate?

  • wintermute

    I think you are wrong, the court can come to a majority position for 5 explicitly different reasons. I don’t know if the minority made any statements regarding the commerce clause, Im sure they did, but as far as the 4 libs having to agree with Roberts, its not true.

  • Ender

    not true. The 5 votes have to be there for one opinion to hold. You are wrong. They can then list concurring opinions with whatever else they thought. The other 4 also had to agree with Roberts.

  • exitsfunnel

    I understand that as the election approaches we have to pretend in order to GOTV, but at least today can’t we just be honest? Mitt Romney isn’t going to kill anything. Even if he could just eliminate the mandate to purchase insurance by executive fiat he wouldn’t, as removing the mandate to purchase insurance without removing the expanded coverage mandates on the insurers makes their businesses non-viable.

    The only real way forward would be a total (or near total) repeal and even if they had large majorities in both houses (which they won’t), the GOP doesn’t have nerve to kill the parts of the bill that people want, ie, coverage for preexisting conditions. They simply don’t. That’s just the reality Our only chance of escaping Obamacare was through the courts and it failed.

    If Romney wins and the GOP takes over the Senate, he may get to nibble around the edges here or there, but essentially Obamacare is the new normal.

    -exits

  • chashand

    Ann Coulter was exactly right about Roberts. He was basically a blank slate. From her column on 07/2005: “But unfortunately, other than that, we don?t know much about John Roberts. Stealth nominees have never turned out to be a pleasant surprise for conservatives. Never. Not ever.”

  • lizfstone

    TOO!!!!!!!!

  • rabun1016

    I think Romney whacks it.

    There is really nothing that could happen that would make the health insurance business non viable given the rates that states approve base on their financial pass through. The more money the insurers take in and pass through, the greater their administrative percentage which is where they make their dough.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    There are 5 votes smacking down the commerce clause and 5 votes upholding the tax power.

  • http://stephenmartino.blogspot.com/ stevemartino

    Just like the old adage of seeing something half empty instead of half full, many are viewing the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare as a purely negative outcome. Sure, I would have liked the court to rule constitutionally and in a responsible fashion. Sure, I would have preferred the court use the law to base their decision instead of failed socialist ideologies. It would have also been nice to see the court use their power for the good of the nation instead of heading it towards a path of bankruptcy and despair.
    However, in the Supreme Court’s infinite wisdom they voted to uphold the Marxists principles which Obama holds so dearly. Though many despair because of this mindless decision, I see a positive side that far outweighs the negative which seem to hang so heavily over America’s future.
    Why? The answer is simple and can be summed up in one word: Complacency. It might seem over simplistic but it actually makes sense when you think about. First, you have to ask yourselves what got General Secretary Obama elected? It was the opposite of complacency: Motivation.
    What the Democrats did in the last presidential election was motivate their base to go out and vote in droves. They got them to the polls. Through rhetoric such as hope and change they made everyone out in American feel as if they alone could make a difference just by voting for Obama. They made it feel that a vote for Obama would change the country for the better; a vote for Obama would make your life better; a vote for Obama would turn America into a true utopia. Though Obama and his failed policies could do none of this, people felt as if he do all of this and more. They were thus motivated to go out and vote.
    However, times have changed. Obama is in power and his greatest assault against American freedom and Capitalism, Obamacare, was upheld. Now I ask: where’s the motivation to Obama’s supports? They already have what they want. If, however, Obamacare was repealed, there would have been a battle cry sent out by Obama and his Himmler-esk cronies. They would have berated the Republicans, chastised the courts and made it a point that if Obama were voted out of power this November, things would go back to the way things were during former President Bush’s times. Obama would have sent the fear of God into people and made them think if Romney got into office, a Republican-driven Supreme Court would repeal civil rights, women’s suffrage and all welfare-type programs. They would have painted a picture of the future filled with despair, filled with greedy capitalistic clones of Romney economically squashing the other 99% of society.
    Instead of chanting, “Remember the Maine, down with Spain”, they would be shouting, “Remember Obamacares, throw Romney down the stairs!” (Maybe not exactly, but I just wanted it to rhyme). It would have again provoked the masses to go and cast a vote towards economic insolvency- I mean for Obama.
    Now you have to ask: who is motivated now? I can tell you. All the Republicans, members of the Tea party, the working class, people who actually pay taxes and everyone who owns any size business across the country. Now, we have the motivation. We have the battle cry. We have more a reason now to vote Obama out of office than before!
    In fact, I’d like to thank the Supreme Court for their ruling. For at this moment the tide has turned against Obama and the path to his exit from the White House has become visible. Thank you for your nearsightedness. Thank you for your demagoguery. Thank you for total disregard to the Constitution. For it is through this act of total ignorance that we Americans will take back the White House and elect a real American into office!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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  • http://applescorneroftheorchard.blogspot.com/ Pomme

    Work toward putting conservatives in Congress and your local offices.

    Make it impossible for Romney’s feet to leave the fire!

  • acat

    even if that wasn’t the stare decisis she meant to create …

    should be cause for celebration.

    Mew

  • acat

    (crap, back to scotusblog .. assuming they haven’t melted down)

    Mew

  • califgal

    agreeing with Erik, that Roberts gutted the commerce clause:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/06/roberts_health_care_opinion_commerce_clause_the_real_reason_the_chief_justice_upheld_obamacare_.single.html

  • ghostship

    There are no limits to anything the government can do anymore with this decision.

    The ruling says the mandate violates the commerce clause but yet Obamacare stands because the mandate is a “tax.” Never mind the question of how one pays a tax by NOT buying something. I guess it relies on the same logic that increasing spending can be called a “cut.”

    This ruling basically says that the constitution doesn’t matter anymore.

    Newsweek was wrong. We’re not all socialists now. We’re noting but serfs. Then again what’s the difference between the two? Maybe Newsweek was right all along.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I gather that it was Sotomayor, Ginsberg, Breyer, Kagan, and Roberts who upheld the tax stuff, and Kennedy, Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Roberts who smacked down the commerce power.

    I could be wrong though.

  • acat

    that Roberts’ majority opinion sets an outer marker on the commerce clause, and provides motivation to conservatives to change the marker by changing Congress.

    Mew

  • acat

    The limits on Commerce seem to be giving Liberals fits…. and anything that does that is good.

    Mew

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That’s all the courts are going to care about.

  • ghostship

    I’ve just been reading the news reports where it says that Obamacare didn’t pass muster under the commerce clause but stands because the mandate is a “tax.”

    The ruling may set an outer maker on the commerce clause on paper but it completely undermines it in practice. What if congress mandated that everyone go out and buy some cigarettes to help fund healthcare and fines you if you don’t.

    Thanks to this ruling it might be found to violate the commerce clause but you’d still have to pay the fine because now fines are taxes so the mandate will stand.

    What good are limitations that will only exist in theory but not in practice.

  • pff23ro

    So can somebody help me off the proverbial ledge here? The Supreme Court upholds the individual mandate (this “its a tax” bull is completely interchangeable with mandate). The man we have as our nominee, put in the obamacare precursor in place in MA.

    To fix this, we will need at least a 60 vote veto proof majority in the senate, or reps with the fortitude to use the nuclear options available to them. On top of that, to ensure this never happens again, we need to either now amend the constitution, or ensure the democrats never have any majority in the federal government going forward until the end of time.

    Will Romney actually, try let alone succeed in repealing obamacare?

    How can this democracy killing piece of legislation stay dead after this? Even if it gets repealed?

    I dont see any way out. Nor do I ever see a way to make socialized medicine radioactive anymore.

    There is no way I can possibly see any way this could get any worse…

  • avgjo

    but it seems all he did was give the Congress a different cover for forcing us to buy something – taxation.

  • wintermute

    i did read somewhere that since its a tax, reconciliation can be used which bypasses the 60 vote requirement. so there’s that, if its true.

  • pff23ro

    My concern is they won’t have the fortitude to use it

  • califgal

    Within the next year or two, if you sell your house, you pay 4% of the sale price to the guv for Obamacare, right?

    Shouldn’t an ad be up tomorrow on that?

  • evilbloggerlady

    Glenn Reynolds is more sanguine about this decision, thinking that Roberts may have intentionally lost the battle to win the war (and take on the commerce clause). I am less optimistic on that. Still, if this is a tax can it be filibuster proof? If that is the case 50 votes and Mitt Romney as president (and a GOP Veep) is enough to make this go away.

  • congressworksforus

    It’s far harder to create and pass a bill with a tax in it (and SCOTUS effectively said, doesn’t matter what you call it, a tax is a tax), than one with a “penalty” for those that don’t play by the rules.

    Politicians can no longer hide from the tax increases they vote for.

  • congressworksforus

    Because Roberts just told them that SCOTUS will no longer fight the GOP’s fight for them.

  • avgjo

    I saw an Obama ad the other day where he flat out promoted asking those with more to help a little more (to paraphrase his language). That’s how they couch this crap. Especially since now we’re so close to the magic number of 50% +1 of people not paying taxes. They’ll be able to openly run on it very soon, and they’re barely veiling it now.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    How can he do that? A president cannot abolish a law.

    I suppose he could use the part of the law that Obama has been using to give exemptions to his union buddies.

    He could just exempt every person and every business from all provisions of the law. But that would perversely still leave the law in place.

  • califgal

    they are allowed by the Chief Justice to hide behind other words.

    Please remember, the average voter reads at a very low level, about 7th grade.

  • acat

    the hard part is going to be creating more taxpayers, i.e. spreading the pain around.

    Mew

  • acat

    Writing it will take getting a majority in Congress – both houses – and with enough Conservatives to make sure the repeal is *solid*.

    Mew

  • avgjo

    I just question the idea that Robert’s decision puts any statist into an awkward position in this environment.

  • acat

    over the success rate of politicians staying in office after voting for tax increases.

    The voters may read at the 7th grade level, but a politician needn’t be Sarah Palin to say “Rep X voted for a tax increase that cost you money, I want to replace him.”

    Mew

  • acat

    That’s .. a very *very* interesting point.

    Mew

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    He could have simply voted with Kennedy, Scalia, Alito and Thomas; they all wanted to vote down the ACA in its entirety. Kennedy said as much in his dissent. ?In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety”. I think more accurately Roberts was uncomfortable in the position of the Court being the place where the results of elections are overturned and found the one argument that didn’t make him throw up in his mouth. My issue is the idea the Federal Government can make me participate in a commerce is foreign to the Constitution and Roberts creating that right out of the tax clause is judicial activism. Further, now that it is done, we have to beat everyone of these clowns on November 6th and send them packing.

  • gekster

    He can just issue an EO to ignore the law.
    If a Dem can do it, then any President can.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    “You don’t have to have a big analysis to figure this thing out. Go to New Hampshire where they don’t have a sales tax, and you’re fixing to give them one.” Sometimes simple and direct works.

  • califgal

    expand on this, telling me how today’s decision, in specific terms, does what the author of this piece from Slate (Tom Scocca) suggests. For example, if it’s true Roberts has cut down to its knees the Commerce Clause, what legislation do we now have that wouldn’t exist if today’s decision had taken place?

    Here’s his piece:

    “There were two battles being fought in the Supreme Court over the Affordable Care Act. Chief Justice John Roberts?and Justice Anthony Kennedy?delivered victory to the right in the one that mattered.

    “Yes, Roberts voted to uphold the individual mandate, joining the court’s liberal wing to give President Obama a 5-4 victory on his signature piece of legislation. Right-wing partisans are crying treason; left-wing partisans saw their predictions of a bitter, party-line defeat undone.

    “But the health care law was, ultimately, a pretext. This was a test case for the long-standing?but previously fringe?campaign to rewrite Congress’ regulatory powers under the Commerce Clause.

    “This is why the challenge to the ACA, and its progress through the courts, came as a surprise to Democrats and to mainstream constitutional scholars: Three years ago, there was no serious doubt that Congress had the power to impose the individual mandate.

    “A Bloomberg story last week nicely captured the stakes: “Obama Health Law Seen Valid, Scholars Expect Rejection”:

    “The U.S. Supreme Court should uphold a law requiring most Americans to have health insurance if the justices follow legal precedent, according to 19 of 21 constitutional law professors who ventured an opinion on the most-anticipated ruling in years.

    “Only eight of them predicted the court would do so.

    “The scholars expected to see the court gut existing Commerce Clause precedent and overturn the individual mandate in a partisan decision: Five Republican-appointed justices voting to rewrite doctrine and reject Obamacare; four Democratic-appointed justices dissenting.

    “Roberts was smarter than that. By ruling that the individual mandate was permissible as a tax, he joined the Democratic appointees to uphold the law?while joining the Republican wing to gut the Commerce Clause (and push back against the necessary-and-proper clause as well). Here’s the Chief Justice’s opinion (italics in original):

    ‘Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do. Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do. The Framers knew the difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce, not to compel it. Ignoring that distinction would undermine the principle that the Federal Government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congress?s power to ‘regulate Commerce.’

    “The business about ‘new and potentially vast’ authority is a fig leaf. This is a substantial rollback of Congress’ regulatory powers, and the chief justice knows it. It is what Roberts has been pursuing ever since he signed up with the Federalist Society. In 2005, Sen. Barack Obama spoke in opposition to Roberts’ nomination, saying he did not trust his political philosophy on tough questions such as ‘whether the Commerce Clause empowers Congress to speak on those issues of broad national concern that may be only tangentially related to what is easily defined as interstate commerce.’ Today, Roberts did what Obama predicted he would do.

    “Roberts’ genius was in pushing this health care decision through without attaching it to the coattails of an ugly, narrow partisan victory. Obama wins on policy, this time. And Roberts rewrites Congress’ power to regulate, opening the door for countless future challenges. In the long term, supporters of curtailing the federal government should be glad to have made that .”
    _______________________________________________________

    Can you help me? What legislation/”regulations” will now be harder to get through?

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    The Supreme Court ruled it was a tax, you called the ruling a victory for the people, so you agree it’s a tax.

  • monolithic

    Obama and the democrats have touted in the past that Obamacare was just a modified version of Romneycare in Boston. Or how they phrase it, Obamneycare… so given that (assuming its true) wouldn’t his voice against it be a John Kerry-type flip flop?

    I just have little confidence that THIS is something he’s really focused on. And really to be honest, I think his focus SHOULD be on jobs, during the debates and assuming he wins. I dont think we have the time… there is a true sense of urgency and I think spending 3 years debating how messed up our health care is, while the rest of the world catches up their economies… bad move.

    I understand that its a priority but if everything is a priority, nothing is!

  • acat

    It’s quite constitutional for Massachusetts (or Texas or any other State) to tax citizens to pay for health care. The “opt out” is simple – move!

    It’s a very different story federally.

    That dog not only won’t hunt, he’s teaching the deer to play poker.

    Mew

  • lineholder

    Especially now that the mandate has been defined as a tax.

    Nationally, health care consumes a fairly hefty portion of our GDP, and under O-care, the costs will only increase, not decrease. Romney is very much so correct in stating that is a lousy piece of legislation.

    The approach he is taking right now relates directly back to the status of our economy, to jobs, and to the future of our economy (and quite possibly our nation as well)

  • acat

    Acat,

    Today, the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. But regardless of what the Court said about the constitutionality of the law, Obamacare is bad medicine, it is bad policy, and when I?m President, the bad news of Obamacare will be over.

    It was always a liberal pipedream that a 2,700 page, multi-trillion-dollar Federal Government takeover of our health care system actually could address the very serious problems we face with health care. With Obamacare fully installed, government will reach fully half of the economy ? that is the recipe for a struggling economy and declining prosperity.

    On Day One, I will work to repeal Obamacare to stop the government?s takeover of our health care and intrusion in our lives. I will push for real reform to our health care system that focuses on helping patients and protecting taxpayers.

    We cannot afford Barack Obama?s on-the-job learning, Big Government proposals, and irresponsible spending. Our basic liberties are at stake ? and I will fight to restore our freedoms, renew the respect for our Constitution, and halt the government takeover of health care.

    This November it?s all on the line. The stakes couldn?t be higher.

    Donate $10 or more to put a stop to the policies of Barack Obama and the liberal Democrats.

    Thanks,

    Mitt Romney

    Mew

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Statewide healthcare was going to pass, let me repeat statewide healthcare was going to pass. If Romney had vetoed it, the Dems in the legislature (and remember this being Massachusetts in 2002, saying the Dems in the legislature is the same as saying the legislature) was going to override his veto. Romney had a decision to make: run to the Governor’s mansion and cry about those meany Dems in the legislature (call this leadership 101 by King Barack) or attempt not to make it a total cluster-you-know-what. One of the issues with socialized healthcare is how do you pay for it? You only have a few choices: (1) raise taxes on everyone, (2) raise taxes on the “free loaders” – Justice Roberts got that right it’s a tax, (3) cut spending elsewhere, (4) blow up the states debt. Ok, the Dems in the legislature would have been ok with 1 and 4; Romney wasn’t. Good luck getting the Massachusetts Dems to agree to 3. Romney negotiated to 2 as the best of a bunch of turd decisions. Yes, he congradulated himself too much for steering the debate from options 1 and 4.

    Democrats love to call the individual mandate a Republican idea and by that infer Republicans including Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich love the idea of socialized medicine. They never tell the whole truth, socialized medicine is a wholly owned subsidiery of the Democratic Party when Republicans have supported the non-insured tax it has been to prevent the Democrats from sending the country into bankruptcy with their socialism (whether Hiliary Care or Massachusetts health care). I have no doubt that if we elect majorities to the House and Senate and Romney as President, they will move to repeal Obama Care, Romney will sign every bill put before him that does so and he’ll congradulate himself just as much for the repeal of ObamaCare as he did in Massachusetts.

  • lineholder

    “Update, 1:28 ET: The RNC?s communication team now says the combined Romney and RNC Victory funds have raised over $1 million since the court?s decision”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/28/romney-raises-over-100000-in-less-than-an-hour-after-scotus-ruling/

    And since the goal on our side is getting Conservatives elected, I’ll add this two website addresses for good measure (for those who might want to donate to help get Conservatives elected to Congress)

    http://senateconservatives.com/

    http://houseconservatives.com/

    If you know of others, add them to the list

  • streetwise

    with the Capitol in the background.

    I was a skeptic on Romney, but am hopeful that he has the leadership skills to fight the good fight, and just as important, WIN it, which would be a change of epic proportions as far as establishment GOP candidates go.

  • califgal

    Napolitano, then Krauthammer (who agrees that the Roberts’ decision was so pretzeled an explanation that no way was Roberts following law, that he–Roberts– was looking for a way to reach a certain outcome because he is still stinging from criticism over Bush v. Gore), and I realize that the we are more screwed than ever before. They all agreed it may forever be remembered as one of the worst judicial decisions ever and Roberts will be to blame.

    As if former decisions concerning the Commerce Clause wasn’t wide enough to drive a truck through, we know have precedent established so that Congress can tax us for non-behavior.

    Don’t buy an electric car? Hey, get taxed for not doing so. Don’t go to the gym to lose weight? Hey, get taxed for not signing up. Congress can now do it all because of the “logic” of John Roberts for no liberal will ever say “no” to a tax.

    This inability to appoint conservatives who remain conservative is all about the social pressures of living in a progressive enclave. (I don’t offer that as an excuse, but a reason.) As those on many blogs have suggested, we’d likely get different decisions if the Supreme Court were located in a MidWestern city or a place like, say, Arizona or even Stockton, California!

    If even people with no legal expertise can see this, why

  • nepanyrush

    He said taxes are supposed to originate in the House and this bill originated in the Senate. Also said we can now be taxed for anything, giving massive power to the Congress at the loss of individual freedom.

    Wow. Roberts really made a mess of this. He has given Congress a massive authority to regulate anything under the name of calling it a tax.

  • nepanyrush

    Judge Napolitano said it originated in the Senate and tax bills are supposed to originate in the House.

  • califgal

    in Sweden, a small, mostly (until some Muslims began settling in) homogeneous country. What works in a small country will never work in a huge nation. Sweden and MA are small enough that if the people hate what they have, they can change things.

    You can easily maneuver a ski boat to change direction quickly. Not so the Titanic that is the US Federal Government.

  • fortcollins

    (Sarcasm alert).

    Read the following at pages 31-32 of the slip opinion by Chief Justice Roberts:

    ?Under the mandate, if an individual does not maintain health insurance, the only consequence is that he must make an additional payment to the IRS when he pays his taxes. See ?5000A(b). That, according to the Government, means the mandate can be regarded as establishing a condition?not owning health insurance?that triggers a tax?the required payment to the IRS. Under that theory, the mandate is not a legal command to buy insurance. Rather, it makes going without insurance just another thing the Government taxes, like buying gasoline or earning income. And if the mandate is in effect just a tax hike on certain taxpayers who do not have health insurance, it may be within Congress?s constitutional power to tax.?”

    Isn’t that an invitation? If Congress has the authority to tax inactivity, then a new Republican Congress and a new Republican President should exercise that authority. Here are a few new taxes that should be enacted:

    + A tax should be imposed on every household that fails to purchase and be trained in the use of a firearm.

    + A tax should be imposed on every person who is able-bodied but chooses not to work.

    + A tax should be imposed on every labor union that fails to make campaign donations to the Republican Party at least equal to donations made to other political parties or candidates.

    + A tax should be imposed on every person who fails to watch Fox News daily.

    + A tax should be imposed on every college graduate who has not written at least a 50-page research paper on the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, and the Magna Carta,

    + A tax should be imposed on each member of Congress who votes on any bill or amendment without first reading the entire text of the same aloud on the steps of the Capitol.

    Hmmm, this new taxing authority isn’t all bad after all . . .

  • checkmate2012

    for a country with 50M or whatever but not a country with 315M! Apples and oranges is not a fair comparison.

  • rightlane1111

    See what I mean…they can tax anything they want now…because mandate and tax have become one in the same and the Chief Justice has set precedent.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    In the anger over the upholding of the individual mandate, we have ignored that the court by a 7-2 margin said that the Congress could not coerce the states to comply by withholding medicaid funding. From Justice Roberts’ majority opinion:

    “Congress may not simply conscript state agencies into the national bureaucratic army,?and that is what it is attempting to do with the Medicaid expansion.?

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Sarah Palin’s tweet today: “Obama lied to the American people. Again. He said it wasn’t a tax. Obama lies; freedom dies.”

    Sarah keeping it real, direct, and a knife to the gut, from the front…all in less than 140 characters. (but we all know it is her fault McCain lost #sarcasm)

  • califgal

    very unhappy about the mandate decision, of course, and although respectful, very articulate about how Roberts didn’t seem to care that there are definitions to what a tax is, but happy that the states won on Medicaid.

    Asked, “What happend to the poor w/out the Medicaid expansion that the Court said states didn’t have to address,” he said, “They lose, which is the reason the Democrats said they were going after this law to begin with.”

    He went on to explain that he believes the Court’s decision of Medicaid will make the rest of the law fail.

  • checkmate2012

    the Fed pay for this monstosity. I would hate to live in a blue state and hope they don’t come here!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It’s on record.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • commonsenseobserver

    We must continue showing that we’re the party of smart, common sense ideas.

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