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Collusion between Obama for America and Priorities USA on ‘their’ lying Soptic ads.

The Story So Far: two days ago, the Obama administration – using the fig-leaf/cutout of Super PAC Priorities USA – accused Mitt Romney of being a murderer because a company that Romney used to own closed down a steel mill (several years after Romney left that company) and that meant that the wife of the husband who lost his job at that steel mill (one Joe Soptic) didn’t have any insurance after the wife left her job several years after the layoff and several years after all of that the wife was diagnosed with cancer and then died. As Erick notes in the link above: if that’s an acceptable logic chain that legitimately leads one to a charge of murder, then (to give just one example) this administration murdered US Border Agent Brian Terry and Eric Holder needs to give himself up right now.

But wait! It gets even more convoluted. You see, the Media is balkingabsolutely balking - at taking this line of attack seriously, and the Obama administration has already done its best to distance itself from the Priorities USA ad, to the point where Obama for America (OfA) spokesman Stephanie Cutter denied that they had any knowledge of Soptic’s story.

So… who’s that voice at the end of this conference call, Stephanie? Your evil twin?

 

The audio is from Guy Benson; it’s from a May 2012 conference call where Mr. Soptic recounted his story – without mentioning the details that Romney wasn’t with Bain at the time of the layoff; that his wife still had healthcare until she lost her job, years later; and that five years passed between M’. Soptic’s layoff and Mrs. Soptic’s cancer diagnosis – and Stephanie Cutter was not only on the call. She introduced Joe Soptic, then wrapped up his testimony. And as to any coordination… Politico(!) notes that Joe Soptic is apparently wearing the same shirt for both the Obama for America and the Priorities USA campaign ads.

It’s hard to check, because the OfA people aren’t talking about where and when they filmed the ad at all and the Priorities USA people (specifically, Bill Burton) claim that they shot “its Soptic footage at a union hall in early February.”

Which is interesting, because that’s apparently where Joe Soptic literally hangs his hat:

The first picture is from the OfA ad; the second is from the Priorities USA one. Guess we know where OfA shot its footage, huh?

To sum up, there was an interesting point from @mike_scrimpf: le affaire Soptic does have more than a passing resemblance to an incident from 2010 where soon-to-be-former Ohio Governor Ted Strickland got caught recycling the same professional victim in his campaign ads. Not a point-to-point correspondence, but it does show just how non-spontaneous these spontaneous stories really are. Not to mention how effective they are, too. Which is to say, less than you’d think.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

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  • veritaseequitas

    is reading from a script, or is that my imagination? I wonder where the script could have come from?
    Also, gasp, Joe turns it back over to Stephanie at the end of his monologue. Is that Stephanie or Clone of Stephanie or perhaps someone impersonating Stephanie?
    Oy vey, this is a brain teaser. Those lefties really are sly.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …(and most people are not), preparing a statement ahead of time at least cuts down on the ahs and ums and errs that make up most people’s speech these days. Soptic could have written that himself, in other words; and the stilted delivery would then be perfectly natural. For a given value of ‘natural.’ ;)

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Gibbs, Cutter, and Burton committed a felony in violation of election law than against Mitt Romney on taxes or manslaughter.

  • Darin_H

    Gambling?
    Winnings, sir.

    I guarantee it wasn’t the first time, but the ad is egregious enough that people are noticing at the least.

  • swami7774

    They’re still talking about it. It’s getting more free media than the Big Zero could have hoped for. For every informed voter the ad repulses, two uninformed dolts believe the charge. The same dolts who vote once every four years.

  • izoneguy

    And those dolts will be as screwed as everyone else….
    How many people lost there health insurance when Obama
    killed many of the GM dealerships???

    I bet it is a lot more than Bain ever did.

  • littlehouse18

    And the apparent felony? Sadly, I doubt it.

  • clintonformccain

    You can pretty much bet that Romney’s oppo research team fed to the blogs and media.

  • littlehouse18

    Why did he not do his best to get a job with good insurance? For 5 years? Could the other custodians at the school district not afford the insurance that was offered them? What about HIPAA after his wife left her job? She would have been allowed to join his policy as long as continuous coverage was maintained. And sadly, few people survive lung cancer even if they are insured. Nothing in his situation would have likely changed the outcome.

    Bain probably kept him in his union job longer than he would have been without Bain.

    I hate to knock a guy with this misfortune, but really his story doesn’t cut it. He’s probably made a lot of money for himself with this ad.

  • littlehouse18

    But how much will Team Romney continue to pursue it? Blogs and Fox only get us so far.

  • FlyingTigress

    …Shiny thing!

    /democrats

  • willopine

    Make sure to say “Hi” to Cyndy Sheehan when you get dumped onto the trash heap of usefull idiots.
    And clear a spot for Sandra Fluke.

  • macbookben

    Next?

  • emptybucket

    you’ve hit the nail on the head.

  • emptybucket

    Obama using Fluke at this point in time and probably she’ll be dumped soon depending on how big her latest “time in the spotlight” plays with the media. When Obama is done with you ya better just get out of town. Look at Oprah…her show went into the tank when 1/2 her audience quit watching with her Obama endorsement. Poor Oprah, sitting on the sidelines now.

    Not that we ever watched her, eeewwww. Too gushy-mushy for us.

  • julianusrex

    The Republicans need a candidate who will actually call out the Obama lies as LIES. Maybe they should nominate someone else.

  • commonsenseobserver

    The members of the Republican Party who voted in the primaries have spoken. A majority of the delegates went to Romney, as did a majority of the popular vote. Any attempt to remove the nominee will risk a severe backlash and cast a cloud of illegitimacy over the eventual ticket.

  • clintonformccain

    …by getting bloggers and the media to respond. What do you want Romney to do? Get on TV and go , “Neener. Neener. Your mother wears army boots….” Romney’s oppo research team has turned this attack ad into a major negative for the Obama campaign. Do you think Steph Cutter is going to be on the morning shows tomorrow accusing Mitt Romney of killing some guy’s wife? Is Jay Carney going to be a dancin’ fool at tomorrow’s press briefing?

    The whole point of oppo research is to feed it to the media, while the candidate stays on message.

  • chbroussard

    that’s where my sympathy ends. He was a willing participate in this pathetic charade and is just as disgusting as Cutter, Gibbs, and the rest of that pack of liars. Mr. Soptic, when you lie down with dogs, you’re going to get up with fleas. You might want to make an appointment with your local vet for a flea dip. Maybe you can get a group discount.

  • runner12

    The Obama administration is caught in another lie. They have lied so many times during his Presidency that I have lost count.

    This ad and the subsequent lies are a real problem for Obama & Co.
    Romney needs to take advantage of it.

  • DVPTEXFLA

    Unless you are a political junkie.. which if you are on Red State means you probably need your daily, maybe even hourly fix.

    Right now I believe most Americans can tell you about Gabby Douglas winning the Gymnastics All Around Gold Medal…Michal Phelps 22 Olympic medals…Misty and Kerri winning their 3rd Gold Medals in Beach Volleyball….Unsain Bolts 100 meter gold…..but many sport fans could not name the guys who were inducted into the NFL Hall of fame this past week…if they even thought about the Hall of Fame ceremonies…

    For the .average American these two weeks are an escape from the terrible economy…and politics…

    Right now Team Obama is having to deal with a hand grenade they set off themselves…Even MSNBC and CNN were embarrassed by Team Obama on this mess…..meanwhile Mr. Romney has been busy with fund raising…

    Next week or so comes the VP announcement then the convention….The home stretch starts after the Olympics are over…
    Get your popcorn ready….

  • bluemount

    I don’t hear a word. Dems would be calling for Romney’s head! Andrea Saul (spokesperson for Romney) response was to say Soptic’s wife could have had Romneycare in Mass. How stupid!! Fire her!! Also, I saw Soptic on TV saying he had been offerred a buyout from that cruel Bain steel company.

  • malvernpa

    is so noise. Obama and company have no moral center of gravity they cannot be shamed. The Democrats are gone, on the national level they have left the land of the free and the home of the brave and are owned by the Marxist think tanks that operate outside the tax code. Obama is restrained only in knowing that there are a few Americans that honor the Constitution and public opinion will not move in his direction if he puts the Constitution in the trash in total. He is ignoring it with every time he side steps the Congress. This is constitutionally a very dangerous man. Here is what is going to happen, 2 options. He dumps Biden and picks up Hillary if she will take the #2 spot, he does that Obama wins, there will be enough women groupies that will make that vote. OR he pulls the trigger on Iran in October to get the American people to keep the commander and Chief in a time of war. Both options are horrible for America.

  • renl57

    …thanks to the stupidity of certain politicians whom I’m too contemptuous to name at this point in time.

  • renl57

    He has been grieving over the death of his wife, and in that situation he gropes for some “explanation” of why his wife had to die.

    I know folks personally who are in that situation. They look for anyone to blame: The surgeon or the oncologist or the lab technician or the primary care physician or the insurance agent–or even God. Because the alternative–bad things just happen–ain’t easy to face.

    I blame politicians who would stoop so low as to take advantage of a grieving man. I guess this is another example of that famous left-wing “compassion” we hear so much about.

  • renl57

    The heart and soul of the Old Left was blue-collar private-sector organized labor. (Included my own dad, by the way.) With the collapse in manufacturing employment, the Old Left is gone.

    The Obama Administration and their supporters in Congress and the media are the New Left. They take their cue not from Samuel Gompers but from Abbie Hoffman and the Black Panthers. They look at the riots in the 1960s that shut down college campuses in antiwar protests and burned cities like Detroit in black power protests as “the glory days.” They are very cynical about America, believing that Vietnam “proved” America is evil perhaps beyond redemption.

  • renny

    provided by the AFT/DOJ/WH for which their leaders should by charged.

  • cwfoster

    needs to contact the parents of Brian Terry and have them do a SuperPac ad asking if there’s none of their son’s blood on Obamas hands, why did he use executive privilege to shield Eric Holder from turning over supoenaed documents.

  • lgcvano

    While all of these are in play, NEVER forget the anger of BHO to the Supreme Court in his SOTU address: He is still seething that he can not control those SUPERPACS on the right. So he is USING B. Burton as an example and stand off and say, “This is why we should not allow SUPERPAC PARTICIPATION. This is the reason, I can’t even control MY devotees, and so they should all be banned.” He and his Communist buddies HATE free speech! “Don’t doubt me” as Rush would say. Hands high and innocent faced, “Hey I can’t be responsible for what they say.” Imagine the scene being practiced in the WH!

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    -nt

  • danandsis

    As usual the Romney campaign gave a weak response on the ad charging Romney was responsible for the women’s death.
    We nominated what so far appears to be a Casper Milquetoast with a campaign run by those reluctant to play hardball against the lying competition. If he is elected we better hope that both the Senate and House are controlled by strong conservatives because if they don’t hold his feet to the fire it’ll be a continuation of softball.

  • RDCook

    I have it on extremely credible authority that members of the Obama administration are accessories to mass murder. The authority is the testimony at the congressional hearings that the administration purposely allowed weapons to be furnished to drug cartel members and purposely did not track the weapons. Now the Republican National Committee and GOP PACS should grow a pair, obtain police photos of every victim (over 200 of them and counting) of Fast and Furious weapons both north and south of the border and use them in a campaign advertisement. Use the ad to specifically target Hispanic audiences

  • Spartan4Life

    I think Romney should have his surrogates call this guy out and see if he wants to press his case. He has inserted himself into the debate and he is fair game.

  • edintexas

    NT

  • jimmaloney

    Sean Hannity unleashed by FOX-maybe aligned with Glenn Beck’s network…or a similar no holds barred media source where baseless assertions from the MSM and the Obama re-election strategists can be quickly and effectively crushed…

  • edintexas

    I was lucky to have a family which imparted the lesson that we don’t know when we will die. Our days are numbered and when our time on Earth is up, we have no say in the matter.

    Frankly, I find it difficult to understand how the man is still so bitter 6 years after his wife died as to blame Mitt Romney and volunteer his “story” to the Democrats. Did he blame Romney and Bain all along, or just this year? If this is a recent development, he’s just a Democrat operative and he can find sympathy in the dictionary.

    Agree about the pols.

  • edintexas

    I thought the Greeks cut out all the frills after the budget problems.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    1. Scarborough remembered he is a Republican
    2. Brzeznski remembered she isn’t Obama’s choom dealer (called the ad “disgusting and disturbing”)

    Yesterday, should have been a really bad day for the President. Andrea Saul made it a bad day for Romney and the President.

    From the article (just to get a feel for how uncomfortable getting caught in the lie has made the White House)

    UPDATE (2:27 p.m.): In response to a request for comment regarding the “Morning Joe” allegations, Obama campaign press secretary Ben La Bolt emailed the same statement he provided to Epstein yesterday:

    As you know, we can’t coordinate with super PACs and didn’t produce the Priorities ad. Many workers around the country have a story to tell about what happened to their jobs and benefits when Mitt Romney and his partners made millions in profits by loading up companies up with debt, forcing them into bankruptcy. Joe Soptic suffered when he lost his job in the aftermath of the GST Steel plant closing, and no one is denying that he discussed that when he appeared in a campaign advertisement and on a conference call. The important point here is that Mitt Romney’s campaign is based solely on his experience as a corporate buyout specialist, and while he has been quick to claim he created jobs, he refuses to accept responsibility for the jobs that were lost and workers that were impacted.

    Told that the statement did not address the question, which pertains to allegations that Psaki and Cutter lied, La Bolt emailed:

    This is what we put out in response to that question yesterday and is intended to answer it … This is all we?re putting out on this.

    Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Here is the link to the article on Politico

    ?I don?t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic?s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance.? – Stephanie Cutter on CNN – and something tells me Wolf Blitzer doesn’t see himself as Obama’s choom dealer either.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

  • chbroussard

    While there is no statute of limitations on grief or guidelines on how each individual handles their grief, it does give pause that someone would use their personal grief as part of a bipartisan political ad against someone who had absolutely no hand in Mrs. Soptic’s death. From what I hear on the news, Mr. Soptic was a little loose with the facts in that when he lost his job, his wife continued to have her own insurance for a couple of years. Also heard on the news that he was offered a buyout when he lost his job but turned in down. I would like to hear the facts on that issue.

  • checkmate2012

    a fact, you know you’re in trouble!

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    From Jen Psaki: “No one is denying he was in one of our campaign ads. He was on a conference call telling his story,” Psaki told reporters on Air Force One.”

    As a reminder, yesterday:

    Robert Gibbs, Cutter and Psaki herself: Adviser Robert Gibbs said he didn?t know “specifics,” while deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said on CNN: ?I don?t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic?s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance.”

    And yesterday on Air Force One, Psaki said, “we don?t have any knowledge of the story of the family.”

  • elizaliza

    romney be responsible for that womans health when he only fired her husband a couple of years before she died? people who get cancer take just months to die, Romney fired hubby 4 years before she died, so he’s not responsible.
    For Romney to be responsible, you need to establish that 4 years of health care would have saved this woman, which is ridiculous.

    Obviously, God took her, so Romney is not responsible.

  • elizaliza

    Really, Vietnam is not our most shining moment, why do you wanna celebrate a war a democrat started? Besides, we LOST that war.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Funny, or tragic?

    Well, s/he’s gone either way, so the question is moot.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    Since according to Bill Burton, Romney can cause instantaneous cancer death to people he doesn’t know with his evil powers. Just think of what he does to his enemies.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    A slide from a May slideshow put out by the Obama administration makes claim Mitt Romney caused Soptic’s wife’s death..

    Obama campaign approves the content of Soptic Ad

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    I mean come on… Obama calls Romney a killer, through his surrogates, and the RNC reply is to have …

    CNN and MSNBC clips.

    Huh.

    OK, so a campaign flunkie lied about knowing about the lying ad … oh, and btw, Romney had the same excuse when Newt accused him of dirty campaigning when Romney’s superPAC did negative ads on newt.

    Where’s Obama? Where’s the “OBAMA IS A BIG FAT LIAR” ad? That’s what we need. More baseball bat and less feather. Obama has lied on many things. NAIL HIM ON HIS LIES.
    - He promised to cut the deficit in half
    - He was going to close Gitmo
    - He promised the stimulus would work
    … and now, he’s a dirty low down rotten campaigner after he promised a better

    http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

  • commonsenseobserver

    I seem to remember the RNC having a TV ad like that, which ended with “He tried, you tried, it’s okay to make a change”. Some liberals were scared stiff over it, but it doesn’t seem to have made much of an impact.

    But, yeah, using Obama’s own words and comparing it to his record would be nice. Especially if we can get the audio or video of him saying it himself, which would garner a lot more attention from viewers.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    The President just explains them away by blaming everything on “it was worst, worst depression ever”. This you have the lead spokesperson for the campaign going on CNN and knowingly lying…you make hay by pointing it out and ask what else…then every time the President pulls a stunt, you say he is lying just like they lied here. Every time…do they have the discipline for that who knows?

    Romney also has a scorecard, he is using as a prop – basically President promised a, produced b just like you say.

    I guess I am saying, you can be subtle to put the doubts out there and use a hammer as well.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    If Romney needs to borrow Trump’s ‘nads or voicebox for the campaign … make him.

    I have seen way too many Democrats on other boards justify this horrible Septic Ad as “politics aint beanbag” meaning they know its trashy but that is how the game is played. Our side is playing Marquis of Queensbury while they put on the brass knuckles.

    And guess what … ROMNEY IS LOSING BECAUSE OF IT.

    No, dont do lies and slander like they are, but for gosh sakes, Obama has a RECORD and trail of corruption, lies and sleaze and the wimpy campaign is not even digging into 1% of it. If Team Obama is lying, saying it out loud, clear and to the point, backed up, is important.
    Obama is NOT a nice person, make that clear. Get under his crypto-marxist power-hungry golf-addicted mocha skin. And if Obama hasnt called you a racist, you know you havent gone far enough!

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78545.html

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    and really shouldn’t the followup be the Obama campaign admitting they lied and then ask what else and then hit them with the debt ceiling, debt, stimulus – basically start off with Jan Psalki admitting they lied – say what else have they lied about and then hit all the lies and end with the tag: What will the President lie about next.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    “President Obama?s campaign has been caught lying about its knowledge concerning a vicious smear run by his Super PAC. And now, they have doubled down with another dishonorable and dishonest attack. In 2008, candidate Obama said ?you make a big election about small things? when you don?t have a record to run on. Since President Obama can?t run on record unemployment, falling incomes, and massive debt, he has decided to run a dirty campaign that is an affront to everything he claims to stand for.”

  • jmartin70

    Lots of times people transfer their bitterness and try to blame anyone or anything they can. He doesn’t want to think of the things HE could have done differently, because it’s too late to change….. but he can blame ROMNEY and do something about that, even if it is completely bogus.

  • noveldog9

    Mr. President you lied!
    Which lie are you referring to young man?

    Pelosi you are lying?
    So….don’t we all?

    Harry Reid show us the proof.
    You mean you have to show proof? You mean you don’t believe us?

    Nope! It took awhile but we finally decided that most everything you folks say are lies because it is what you do best. That is why you are all Dumb-o-crats. See definition below.

    Definition of a Dumb-o-crat: One who used to be a God fearing Democrat, a patriot and who loved their country. Now they are a pack of schemers, liars, vote buyers, tax cheats, and One world government advocates trying to make slaves out of their fellow man. In a nut shell they are evil….avoid them at all cost!

  • thethinman

    We find Obama sitting 9 to 10 points ahead of Romney in the polls. and even taking the senate, if the conservatives manage that feat, they won’t have enough to override a veto. At best – they might be able to nix any more socialists on the Supreme Court.

  • funwithknives

    of Sandra {Eeewww!} Fluke, I was conversing with a Group of friends just the other day in Hamtramck, Michigan, Home of Polish Culture hereabouts.
    Theyre all really tall and are informally known as The Ten Foot Poles.
    Without exception, they all said they would never “hit that”……..

  • noveldog9

    “What I don’t undersatnd is I have given amnesty to thousands of illegals and yet it appears no one is willing to give me ….amnesty. It’s not fair!

    “As for the state of the economy it could be worse….I think? Anyway it’s not my fault, it he fault, he fault, he fault. Sorry that old jack ass keeps popping up in my dreams braying over and over,” It he fault, it he fault, he fault!” “I can’t get it out of my mind. All I need is four more years. Just four more years is that too much to ask….shut up you Conservative Tea Party elephants in back. Security, security….they being disrespectful…..throw them out!”

    “And as I was saying we should be respectful to one another and allow free disention. There are no secrets in my adminsitration.. Our conduct is an open book. Of course there are some thngs that are for eyes only….my eyes, he, he, he.” Smirk.

    “Well that concludes our question and answer period. Where’s my golf clubs? Moochelle if I told you once I told you a hundred times not to let the kids play with daddy’s gold clubs.

  • sonshine

    Good grief. Is there never an end to what these people will do? This is all job creation Democrat style. Put as many people as possible on the government dole. Hire as many people as possible as government employees. Give amnesty to as many as possible illegal aliens. Give as much money as possible in grants, loans, etc. to keep people voting for the Democrats. Make the taxpayers pay for it all. Doesn’t matter if they can afford it. Sounds like a new Millenium Plantation to me.

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