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On the USC/LA Times poll of California

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This new poll of the California races by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner and American Viewpoint for USC and the LA Times has been discussed from one side of the Internet to the other, and back again.

But I wouldn’t be doing my job if I let it go without chiming in, now would I? Of course not. So let’s dig in.

First off, this Media/University poll wasn’t all that spectacular back in the primaries, projecting Carly Fiorina 38-Tom Campbell 23-Chuck DeVore 16, when the actual was 56-22-19. Fiorina vastly outperformed this poll. On the Governor side, the poll had Meg Whitman 53-Steve Poizner 29. Again, the eventual Republican winner was underpolled, as Whitman actually won 64-27. So if these polls continue to underestimate Fiorina’s and Whitman’s support levels, it’s not the most surprising thing around.

So when I look at Democrat Barbara Boxer’s 51-43 lead over Republican Fiorina in the poll, or Democrat Jerry Brown’s 49-44 lead over Republican Whitman, I can’t help but wonder. Especially when the Times points this out:

Brown, for example, trailed by 12 points among those most enthusiastic about voting this year. Boxer’s lead reversed to a 17-point deficit among the most enthusiastic voters.

When Public Policy Polling showed no apparent enthusiasm gap in California, I doubted it. If this poll is not taking it into account when assigning Likely Voter profiles, I doubt it, too.

From Unlikely Voter

COMMENTS

  • jaybo

    Some polls and polling organizations are objective and take pride in their ability to accurately determine public sentiment. But then there are some polls that are propaganda tools used to influence public sentiment.

    Unfortunately the bad apples that are out there hurt the reputation of the entire industry. It would be wise for reputable polling agencies to speak out against this type of propaganda.

  • earlgrey
  • IJB

    That’s a silly canard that Nate Silver keeps trotting out.

    Let me put your mind at ease – Prop. 19 will have NO effect on election turnout in November.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • earlgrey
  • mboyle1988

    Fiorina has run such a great campaign. She’s done everything right and Boxer has done everything wrong. It’s not even close anymore. Boxer looks like she’s going to win by close to 10 points. I’m really distraught. Whitman might even lose, which is just amazing. California sure is one dumb state…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Can it with your irrational negativity.

  • aesthete

    when they hear that the dreaded pothead bloc lines up against something. Marijuana users are nothing if not articulate advocates for their cause, detail-minded, and relentlessly diligent.

    In all seriousness, the federal war on drugs is pretty much over if CA passes this initiative, but I doubt that it will have much effect on Democratic results: most CA Democrats are just as opposed to decriminalization as Republicans are.

  • chipbennett
  • swami7774

    …was being facetious, Neil. Or outlandish.
    Or something.
    Perhaps.

  • blooch

    or le treaul du concerne, mais oui!

  • Tbone

    I’ll tell you how to do it.

  • securitymom

    I have been waiting on your response on the results of these polls. I am trying hard to stay optimistic.

    Pledge for 2010: WIN

  • emaberk

    Obama is still polling well there and is popular there, more so than the rest of the country. This is probably the reason Republicans are not polling too well and having a difficult time.